I'm really looking forward to see how much btc will Second Market buy today or tomorow  +1 so do I. It is a good indicator for me Do they publish their buys in real time or a few days after ? Once a day. See my thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=337486.0 |
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But still, bter confirmed that there is a memo from PBOC to their 3rd party processor. So a memo of some kind does exist
I just read it. By putting such an announcement there especially the last " 就算世界荒芜，总会有人是你的信徒", BTER forever lost possiblity of getting recognized loyal (while BTCChina repeatedly expressed willingness). Now it's up to PBOC to decide whether loyalty matters - sometimes, they demand loyality, sometimes they just want you dead. We will see. Reading BTER news I think we are not at the bottom yet. So far, the 327 Caixin report is 50% confirmed: a recent memo from PBOC banning 3rd party deposit. This is not really interesting as we all know 3rd party deposit has been banned last December after a PBOC meeting. Smaller 3rd party processors which didn't attend the meeting tried to fly under the radar and now the PBOC issues an official memo. What about bank deposit? There are some possibilities: 1. the Caixin report is 100% correct, the bank accounts will be closed on 15 Apr. However, since none of the 15 named exchanges confirm a ban, I believe this is not the most likely case. I would say 10% chance 2. the Caixin report is mostly correct. The bank accounts will be closed after 15 Apr to give enough time for people to get money back. The exchanges will soon get a notice from their banks. I would say 45% chance. 3. the Caixin report is only 50% correct. Only 3rd party deposit is concerned at this moment. I would say this is also 45% chance. What do you think? If you're hoarding BTC/LTC then this has no impact on you because it won't collapse due to one country banning it or limiting its use; however if you make a mistake of getting into the game when it's +/-$1000 and expect to make a quick buck or getting rich then you're expecting to lose big time. For the rest, you just need to wait it out. China may not be nice at the beginning then look else where. One door closes, expect many other doors open! I totally agree with you but I'm not talking about price speculation here. |
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时髦的词应该说是冷存储吧。
冷儲存是指你的錢包從來不會出現在連接網絡的電腦上. 如果不是, 你只算是本地儲存. 嗯，是的。一开始还只能算是本地存储，但现在的钱包是冷存储的了。对钱包的安全要非常重视。 我参与看重的是过程，现在我几乎所有过程都实践过了，当然挖矿是挖山寨币的矿。比特币的矿没有能力挖  不过说白了，钱不多，即使归零也没关系，所以我的心态好。但是，如果是被偷即使只有0.0001BTC，我心里都不会舒服。我赠送别人又是另外一回事。 只要你的錢包 曾經是熱儲存, 就永遠要假設是熱儲存. 唯一實現冷儲存的方法是在一台永不連線的電腦上產生錢包, 然後把熱錢包的bitcoin直接轉往冷錢包 |
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But still, bter confirmed that there is a memo from PBOC to their 3rd party processor. So a memo of some kind does exist
I just read it. By putting such an announcement there especially the last " 就算世界荒芜，总会有人是你的信徒", BTER forever lost possiblity of getting recognized loyal (while BTCChina repeatedly expressed willingness). Now it's up to PBOC to decide whether loyalty matters - sometimes, they demand loyality, sometimes they just want you dead. We will see. Reading BTER news I think we are not at the bottom yet. So far, the 327 Caixin report is 50% confirmed: a recent memo from PBOC banning 3rd party deposit. This is not really interesting as we all know 3rd party deposit has been banned last December after a PBOC meeting. Smaller 3rd party processors which didn't attend the meeting tried to fly under the radar and now the PBOC issues an official memo. What about bank deposit? There are some possibilities: 1. the Caixin report is 100% correct, the bank accounts will be closed on 15 Apr. However, since none of the 15 named exchanges confirm a ban, I believe this is not the most likely case. I would say 10% chance 2. the Caixin report is mostly correct. The bank accounts will be closed after 15 Apr to give enough time for people to get money back. The exchanges will soon get a notice from their banks. I would say 45% chance. 3. the Caixin report is only 50% correct. Only 3rd party deposit is concerned at this moment. I would say this is also 45% chance. What do you think? |
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bter just clarified that only their 3rd party processor account got closed. They never had a bank account for deposit. So it is still unknown whether bank deposit is banned.
From your previous post record I will trust this conclusion without further homework. So today some my effort in speculating on unverified message. Sorry. This is the clarification from bter: https://bter.com/article/403Also on the front page of btctrade: http://www.btctrade.com/So far only 3rd party processors are concerned. But still, bter confirmed that there is a memo from PBOC to their 3rd party processor. So a memo of some kind does exist |
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Ok. I understand what you are saying now. But what doesn't make sense to me, is why would the government force them to close bank accounts by April 15th, if they wanted to give them another 3 months to operate before making potential new decisions?
It seems like by setting a date of April 15th, that they putting an end to the exchanges.
Or, are you implying that you don't think closing access to banking accounts will necessarily end the exchanges and there might be work arounds allowed (potentially with a 3 month review)?
Sorry, I skipped lines: I meant to say "in this speculation the leaked-order is an intention that is replaced by a talk, and BTER didn't get a chance to talk". I should have added this line where I said "However, I do not doubted the recent ban existed in cetain form". Don't forget that I also speculated sluggish execution, and more news to come. bter just clarified that only their 3rd party processor account got closed. They never had a bank account for deposit. So it is still unknown whether bank deposit is banned. |
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更何况中国人跪了五千年，而六十多年前中国人民终于趴下去了 那些還央媽前央媽後的, 就是一群狗奴才  |
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时髦的词应该说是冷存储吧。
冷儲存是指你的錢包從來不會出現在連接網絡的電腦上. 如果不是, 你只算是本地儲存. |
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Actually, for the past hour, huobi is up 5%
Some realizes that it will be more difficult for them to buy bitcoin |
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I don't have time right now to translate the bter.com notice, but I can say the deposit ban rumor is 99% real. In the meantime, people could still withdraw CNY as usual (processed within 2 hours) Dear user:
Hello, I am sorry for recharge, bit child just received notification policy reasons, we had to suspend recharge Yuan (CNY) period of time. But mention is CNY without restrictions. Still within two hours arrival. We can at any time withdraw cash at any time to operate.
Bit children uphold the commitment to provide users with 100% guarantee, user withdrawals are not affected.
Bit child provides more than 40 kinds of currency trading passwords, user traffic is China's largest and password bitcoin currency trading platform, the world's largest dog coins, currency future contract currency and other trading platforms, Alexa website ranking China once reached within 1000.
Bit operations unaffected children, recently the latest version on-line trading system, thank you for your support!
google translate from bter.com announcement page.. 2nd newest piece of info only posted in Chinese.
This sounds more like they had to adjust to regulation why is it that this is a ban.. per say lol
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It's still the same thing, nothing new |
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I think they have multiple sources, and try to buy at the lowest price I thought you know it for sure.Thanks anyway. .. buy at the lowest price LOL I did`nt expect that   All figures are openly available. I am not affiliated with SecondMarket in any way |
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@jl2012
do you know where SMBIT is buying and selling?
At which Exchange or OTC ?
I think they have multiple sources, and try to buy at the lowest price |
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What good is it if all the bitcoins are hoarded by big invetors and trusts like SecondMarket? The price may rise higher but the liquidity for merchants and transactions will still remain low, at the same level as it would have been without the hoarding. Look at the orderbook on emptystamp - it is representative of a new age where all the coins are hoarded away and the price is high yet the volume is low and every little buy or sell causes a dramatic movement in the price - no liquidity.
The no liquidity issue has always been a concern. Back when BTC was 5$ there were walls in the mid-five figures, but the exchange value was essentially the same as you've got now. If more liquidity is the goal then the traders need to stop taking money/coin off the table on both the bid and the ask side. I say traders because their base is much larger than the real user base. Traders are concerned about the reliability of current exchanges (for good reason). Liquidity will improve if better exchanges are built. You raise a good point. I want to say that perhaps a network of trusted exchanges needs to be created effectively combining the market liquidity of each. However, that doesn't really lend itself to the core motivation of Bitcoin. I think SecondMarket is going to launch a "meta-exchange" which allows exchanges to trade with each other. That will greatly improve the liquidity |
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What good is it if all the bitcoins are hoarded by big invetors and trusts like SecondMarket? The price may rise higher but the liquidity for merchants and transactions will still remain low, at the same level as it would have been without the hoarding. Look at the orderbook on emptystamp - it is representative of a new age where all the coins are hoarded away and the price is high yet the volume is low and every little buy or sell causes a dramatic movement in the price - no liquidity.
Is this what you want to say? SecondMarket not buying: it's bearish
SecondMarket buying: it's bearish
P(SecondMarket not buying V SecondMarket buying) = 1
Therefore, it must bearish, forever |
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That's the kind of stupidity that fuels all conflict in the world. If you can't see other people's perspective, then you are the problem. The world isn't here to satisfy only what you want. As above, a sub forum that does cater for that other clutter, might help that 'problem'.
Please ask the mods whether those project development topics and technical support requests should exist here |
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Perhaps better to suggest just having an "Alternate cryptocurrencies" > "Development & Technical Discussion" subforum?
However, Bitcoin 'generic' "Development & Technical Discussion" does make a lot of sense, despite those who see others as impure.
"Bitcoin Protocol and Reference Client" is a rather limiting.
I don't care alt coin, just don't want them to contaminate this section Please also note the description of this section: "Technical discussion about Satoshi's Bitcoin client and the Bitcoin network in general. No third-party sites/clients, bug reports that do not require much discussion (use github), or support requests." It's basically "Bitcoin Protocol and Reference Client". |
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3877 XBT bought yesterday, basically the sum of all mined coins  |
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I had similar suggestions on Meta but that was totally ignored. I think I can get more attention here.
The current name "Development & Technical Discussion" is misleading. It can't reflect the purpose "Technical discussion about Satoshi's Bitcoin client and the Bitcoin network in general. No third-party sites/clients, bug reports that do not require much discussion (use github), or support requests." The current name attracts all those project and alt-coin development discussion and technical support requests.
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被迫割肉 其它你也許有道理, 這個根本是胡扯, 用戶自己判斷錯誤胡亂賣出是自己的責任 |
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