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1321  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think most of you underestimate just how important china was on: April 08, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
Truth is, Bitcoin is still a ponzi pyramid, with 1% of the owners owning 30% of the coins...
It is of no concern to anyone if only 1% hold 30% of the coins, they are not profiting off you like how a ponzi scheme works, they are profiting off the market. If the reason you are not getting into Bitcoin is because you felt bitter of other people being richer than you just because they got in early, you are letting emotions cloud your logic

+1 Fantastic response



I've said it before: any publicly-traded company is a 'Ponzi scheme'. People buy shares, the price goes up, the early buyers find their shares are worth more. But not everyone can get out at the high price. Tell it to BP, HSBC, Google shareholders.
The difference is that a Ponzi scheme is built on nothing but other investors. Where there's real IP and real value, it's a different story.
Does bitcoin have real IP...?
[Discuss. But not too long because the answer's pretty clear.]

1. Definition from Wikipedia:

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A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation where the operator, an individual or organization, pays returns to its investors from new capital paid to the operators by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the operator.

2. There is no operator in bitcoin

Therefore, bitcoin is not a Ponzi scheme

Q.E.D.
1322  Economy / Speculation / Re: I think most of you underestimate just how important china was on: April 08, 2014, 02:37:34 AM
Bitcoin allowed china the perfect opportunity to freely move their money around.


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Any of you who  need to hide money or move it around untraceable probably know just how easily bitcoin allows this and how important it would be for the Chinese to be able to do this with their restrictive government.


Let me rephrase your argument:

1. Chinese people: We needs bitcoin to dodge the restrictive government!
2. The restrictive Chinese government: I won't let you buy bitcoin easily!
3. Chinese people: Forget it! Let's obey to the government! SELL SELL SELL!!!

Doesn't this sound very stupid?


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Some will say China will still buy bitcoins and find a way. This is wishful thinking because Bitcoin is a serious threat to their government and they will keep closing any loopholes down.

It sounds like you know nothing about China.

Do you know China has banned google, facebook, youtube, twitter, because they are serious threats to the Chinese government? Yet, Chinese people will "climb over" the Great Firewall to access these contents?

Do you know each Chinese citizen is only allowed to wire US$50,000 to other countries each year? Do you know Chinese are the biggest real estate buyer in Canada in the recent years? How could they do this with such restrictive foreign exchange control?

If Chinese people really NEED bitcoin (as you stated), isn't it easier than buying a house in Canada?

1323  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 08, 2014, 02:21:20 AM
227XBT net buying yesterday
1324  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: transfer funds out from a multisig address failed with code -22 on: April 08, 2014, 02:18:08 AM
That would be nice if the error code could give more details
1325  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: [BOUNTY] Help test next major release of Armory! [0.01 BTC per bug!] on: April 07, 2014, 05:10:55 PM
In "Update Software", it fails to determine Windows Server 2012 R2, which should be equivalent to Windows 8
1326  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 07, 2014, 06:16:49 AM
He would end up with a bit more than 8.672 million USD.


For such amount you can't ignore the slippage
1327  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do Satoshi Dice work? on: April 05, 2014, 06:09:28 PM
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if i sent Bitcoins with a send date of January 1, 2010

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I also think that if you are not using the correct time in a transaction full nodes and miners will reject it from the network.


There is no timestamp in transaction!

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions

so if i lose at Satoshi Dice, i can fix the block chain on my end so the transaction never happened, and propagate it using a 51% quantum attack?

Please read: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Double-spending
1328  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do Satoshi Dice work? on: April 05, 2014, 06:08:53 PM
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if i sent Bitcoins with a send date of January 1, 2010

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I also think that if you are not using the correct time in a transaction full nodes and miners will reject it from the network.


There is no timestamp in transaction!

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions

No not per say but when you send outputs from a block you have to malform the blocktime to do the type of attack the OP is describing that is a type of timestamp. Which full nodes and miners would reject since they know that output is too young to be part of the transaction.

I think you don't understand what OP is asking, and OP is simply don't understand how bitcoin works. OP believes there is a timstamp in transaction, and SD depends on that timestamp to determine the result.
1329  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: How do Satoshi Dice work? on: April 05, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
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if i sent Bitcoins with a send date of January 1, 2010

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I also think that if you are not using the correct time in a transaction full nodes and miners will reject it from the network.


There is no timestamp in transaction!

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions
1330  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 05, 2014, 04:03:50 AM
1138XBT sold yesterday
1331  Economy / Speculation / Re: [BAN] BTCChina, OKCoin, FXBTC, BTC38, Huobi (updated: April 4) on: April 04, 2014, 04:18:17 PM
For the following machine translation, I couldn't find the original text in okcoin's website nor their weibo


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Source: Translation by BING.

We received a clear Merchants Bank, Shenzhen Branch of China
Construction Bank's notice, that it could not continue to provide
settlement for the Bitcoin industry, so we can not continue to use the
public accounts, the more feasible the personal card (I.E. Vouchers like BTCChina). We also consulted
the United States, livelihood and other banks, the other account
services are unable to provide feedback. Some people say that the era of
deliberately shutting down recharge deliberately operate covertly, and
if so, we would not have spread the OKCOIN.
1332  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Is the long block confirmation time a problem? on: April 04, 2014, 06:07:02 AM
https://www.google.com/search?safe=off&espv=2&es_sm=93&q=confirmation+time+bitcoin&oq=confirmation+time+bitcoin&gs_l=serp.3..0i19j0i5i30i19j0i8i30i19l3.13333.15881.0.16032.7.7.0.0.0.0.74.320.7.7.0....0...1c.1.39.serp..0.7.312.CKEsFGSbTnk
1333  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 04, 2014, 05:34:00 AM
2533XBT bought yesterday. This compensated the sale on 2 Apr and the estimated holding is again at an ATH of 96941XBT

where are you finding these stats? I was searching the BIT site for 15 minutes yesterday with no luck...

Please read the OP. I really feel tired to answer the same question for so many times
1334  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 04, 2014, 02:29:52 AM
2533XBT bought yesterday. This compensated the sale on 2 Apr and the estimated holding is again at an ATH of 96941XBT
1335  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Same block hash on: April 03, 2014, 05:04:44 PM
Well I think we should prepare for this. At this time its not an urging issue, as the hashrate is growing, and there are plenty of space to increase the diff, but once hashrate is not increasing, or we get a very high diff, the chance of getting the same hash is getting bigger.

Even if you use up all energy of our sun, you won't be able to find a collision by chance

The only possible scenario is when SHA256 is completely broken
1336  Economy / Speculation / Re: SecondMarket Bitcoin Investment Trust Observer on: April 03, 2014, 04:55:05 PM
1761XBT sold yesterday

The estimated daily holding in March 2014 is adjusted based on the latest actual holding figure

Also, please note that this is the net amount traded. They could have bought 10000XBT and sold 11761XBT yesterday
1337  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Same block hash on: April 03, 2014, 04:46:32 PM
I think it's a fundamental assumption that no collision may occur. I don't think the code has prepared for this. The chain will fork if the transaction inputs and outputs in the two blocks are not identical.
1338  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Can someone please help me.. on: April 03, 2014, 02:45:21 PM
I apologize if this is not in the correct section to the mods beforehand but I am getting a little concerned about two transactions I sent hours ago that have been hung up, apparently, and a little peace of mind would go a long way. Here's a link to one of the ID's on the chain

https://blockchain.info/tx/54e1dacec551915b2b93f27618cf676a5f913f2c1d8779fc32cd0e2436257859


Any help is appreciated very much..

It won't be confirmed until this is confirmed:

https://blockchain.info/tx/eaa7eba39a2110b403880f18f3d18b274fa1c7bb581e8186098a5d85a52c4ccf
1339  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion on: April 02, 2014, 03:42:14 PM
Actually with that volume i wouldn't be surprised this is the insider dump and some bigger news will show up about 3+ hours from now

The news is already there.....
1340  Economy / Speculation / Re: Chinese exchange BTC38 suspends CNY deposits due to PBOC's policy on: April 02, 2014, 02:40:06 PM
did they ever even support direct bank transfer deposit to begin with?

yes
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