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2341  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Are you For or Against "Government" Regulation of Bitcoin. on: June 10, 2017, 03:12:53 AM
Im sure no one does wanna to get their coins regulated and have to pay a fee, but the most of us will always exchange their coins to fiat, and at the moment while banks doesnt know you can do it with small ammounts, but there is a risk you get your money frozened. I do believe legalization would benefict more bitcoin, since you would be able to go to the bank and say i wanna money to play with bitcoin, but for the other side i wouldnt wanna to had my information being public, or into any computer besides mine. Imagine those person wich hold a lot bitcoins they will need to moove and hire security to walk in the street, because hackers can and might attack the system to found those people adress.

"Im sure no one does wanna to get their coins regulated" ha ha ha!

You don't know how stupid and brainwashed people are. Most want government regulation. I bet you when germans took people to the camp the good citiziens probably said well they must have done something wrong. People are brainwashed to love their governemtn and thin it does good, so if there was a vote to regulate bitcion most would be for it! If you don't belive that I'm true then you are just anaware of what people are really like

I personally don't want it, but I see many people cheering when there is a news about governments regulations about Bitcoins, countries accepting Bitcoins, this kind of news... There are some points that could be positive, but the most parts of a regulation are negative for the individual Bitcoin enthusiast. Regulations are made to be at government side and give advantages to them.
2342  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How test a new gambling site? on: June 10, 2017, 01:53:09 AM
Just play trusted and reputable sites, so you don't need to test it, you can start playing for real. You can find the best Crypto casinos here on forum, check Gambling section. Some casinos have nice giveaways, you can use it like a satoshis bonus to start playing or to add it to your bankroll, making it bigger. Choosing casinos where to play this way, there won't be any problem in legitimacy questions...
2343  Economy / Speculation / Re: Slow gains and stability on: June 10, 2017, 12:55:43 AM
There are 2 common ways price of btc grows :
1. Really huge increase in price in a 24 hour to 48 hour period which the price falls after sometime and this part is only for traders
2. It is just like the current growth which achieves the price after a huge increase and this benefits the long term investors in long run

The second one is the best situation for me. I like to see the price growing slowly, but solid. When there is a big pump, it's only good if you have free time to follow the chart in time to buy and sell in right time to make a fast and good profit. If you take too much time, you will lose the opportunity of profit, as the correction in price comes really fast.
2344  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin acting like proxy for Gold ? on: June 10, 2017, 12:06:57 AM
Bitcoin price is acting like it is related to the gold price. This is happening regardless of whether you or I think Bitcoin has or should have any inherent value.
Bitcoin may not be a wise store of wealth, but it is reaching and achieving Facebook-style dominating and recognition.
An even 1.0 Bitcoin to Gold Ratio was strong resistance for a long time, but now bitcoin has broken above it and the gold price may act as strong support.
Bitcoin has been acting like gold, not silver. And if bitcoin even began to move closer to the total market value of gold.

Gold is a money of goverments and rich people. Bitcoin is the first serious money of the internet.
In the earth exists some gold. In the universe exists much more.
In the earth exists at the time 16,381,700 bitcoins. In the universe exists nothing more! Max. supply is fix: 21,000,000 and not more.
The gold has a weight. Bitcoin has no weight - you can hold it on a piece of papier.
Gold can't be transported with a speed of the light. Bitcoin can do it.
Gold is visible for everybody - if you hold/transfer it. Bitcoin can be protected through cryptography.
Gold can be seized by the court. If you are clever - your bitcoin can't be seized.


Your arguments are very tangible, but I would like to get an answer to the question, What to do when at some point there will be no electricity or the Internet. The world has become so dangerous that every day you can expect some kind of cataclysms or even a warrior. And then what to do when high technologies can come to an end.

Bitcoin is money for Internet. Internet was planned to survive a war or a cataclysm. I know - some resource, i.e. bitcoin will went lost in such situation. But the remaining supply will be working. What should I tell more?

At this time exists some war in our earth. If somebody want survive there - it is easier escape with a piece of papier or with an usb stick or a mobile. As refugee it is not possible to rescue 1-2 kg gold and your life also. Later - in an other country maybe, i.e. in europe - it is possible to pay with bitcoin. Buy a house, and other things.

But if our civilisation ends - no more need for gold, silver, other money, electricity or internet also - I think.

Thinking in a war like this, in the end money will be worthless, the same applies for Bitcoin, even with internet access. People will focus in primarily items for basic surviving, like food, water, clothes... And they will trade this kind of item among themselves, nobody will want Bitcoins, gold, wealth items that only deserve to show power to others.

Bitcoin, gold or any other kind of currency, asset is only useful if there is organized society, without it, everything is worthless.
2345  Economy / Speculation / Re: Back to 2000$ on: June 09, 2017, 11:17:52 PM
No matter what it is, I see more and more guys like you popping up lately, like mushrooms, and barely delivering any productive content.At least try to back up your claim with some deeper analysis and not just a link!
That is a pretty sad development lately!

I think it's mainly due to the fact that these noobs have missed out on buying at the time the price was still around the $1000 levels. These people are desperately trying to scare people off in an attempt to make them sell, so they miss out as well in case the price goes up further. It's disgusting how people here are trying to make others miss out, or even suffer losses, because they themselves have missed out or even lost. It's an 'I lost, so I will take you down with me' mentality.


I agree



When I read the thread I was scared, I thought it was a more detailed and very serious prediction.

You should not scare people if you think they will fall to $2000, so show some proof.

Nice attempt, but medium-big holders have enough knowledge to don't fall on these traps of people saying Bitcoin will fall a lot, that Bitcoin is going to die, that Bitcoin failed... hehe

This is another signal? its affected few movement of the price in the past few day  there is really no signal for the price crash but i think more price increase will happen soon if you sell you will just lose opportunity since buying is always giving as a chance to make more profit than selling them and buy if the price won't go down instead increase more..  so for now if you are holding bitcoin just hold them and wait for the good time to sell them.. the movement of the price still in a good condition..

BTC price doesn't stop increasing, sometimes slower, but it continues rising very well. Good time to hold now, but if you want to buy, it's not so bad too... Bitcoin will hit $3000 without difficulties. I like how the price is growing now, not so fast to cause a big correction after.
2346  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: trading course recommendations on: June 09, 2017, 10:58:06 PM
Well, if you already have a good knowledge about trading from websites, videos, experience, I think you don't need a course... But there are surely some people on the internet selling guides teaching others how to trade, this kind of stuff and another guides for free, like you said, from videos.

I think a formal course is hard to find and it will be expensive for who is looking for money earnings online.
2347  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Planning to start a Bitcoin Based PTC Website, Need your Advice and Tips on: June 09, 2017, 10:45:12 PM
I think it's not a good idea now, the fashion age of PTC already passed and only those who survived through the last years made a good progress and are alive until today. I see many PTC sites being created and some time later they are dead.

The only feature people would have interest in using a PTC site would be the referral rent system and to make it work, you would need a mass traffic of new members every new day like Neobux has. That is the only chance to make a PTC site work nowadays.
2348  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambler's Fallacy (and you are committing it all the time) on: June 09, 2017, 09:59:54 PM
Nothing that I didn't already new, but it's well explained there. That's why I think casino games should only be played for fun, and poker ans sports betting are the only ones that can be played for profit. For some reason a lot of people still try to find dice and roulette strategies etc. Maybe this will help them.

I agree sports betting can be more profitable than all the rest of gambling games, but many people don't go through this way because they don't have accurate predictions about it (like me), so it's better to try the luck on Dice game with some different strategies than try sports betting with fail predictions.

This argument reforces that sports betting can give better chances of winning, but only if you have knowledge about the sports and the teams. Surely it's not a 100% of profit all the time, sometimes you can have losses, but what matters is the profit on long term, and it's possible to achieve as we don't are taking in consideration only luck events, but the skills of the teams and its players.
2349  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is playing casino games online a good idea? on: June 09, 2017, 09:41:23 PM
If you are smart enough like me Cheesy you know how to beat the greedy house, by only playing in a casino as long as you are winning and stop playing there if you are losing your first deposit, believe me that's more enjoyable than sticking with one casino and losing all the time no matter what.
And even when I win in a casino I immediately withdraw to another site and will start to play there and if I win there as well then I will come back and play again in the first casino. that is more fun for me at least.

And if you lose your first deposit on every site, then what happens?

You will need to make a new one if you want to still play gambling games, and then it won't be guaranteed to stay in the positive green score again...
However, of course thinking this way the online gambling gives us more one advantage, to play in different casinos at same time.
2350  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: ridiculously high *transaction Fees* needs to be fixed asap! on: June 09, 2017, 09:19:47 PM
There are two alternatives, the hard fork, which "Bitcoin Unlimited" (it's the SegWit opponent) would try to force a solution by splitting Bitcoin in two and the another possibility is the biggest part of Bitcoin community endorsing one side, which seems impossible as until now the percentages are very distant to become a common opinion.

I think most people feel very sad about it, because they don't want to pay high fees, but it's being very good for miners as they are enjoying the high fees we need to pay to them.

The little fishes can do nothing about it, only the big businesses have right of decision here.
2351  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you think billionaires invest in BTC? on: June 09, 2017, 08:49:34 PM
I just always wonder if those billionaires still invest in btc. Do they even know btc exist?

Am sure they do. No reasonable investor will see a profitable opportunity and wouldn't invest, provided they are very sure of the possible outcome. Most of the biggest  mining companies  are own by some of the millionaires and billionaires.

I think they invest in Crypto-Currency too, especially after the media spread lots of articles about Bitcoin price in many different languages few weeks ago. Surely they won't put all their money into Crypto-Currency, but they are slowly adopting Bitcoin even more. Even famous millionaries and billionaries can be buying and holding Bitcoins, but they keep their names in secret.
2352  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bank in Norway now supports Bitcoin on: June 09, 2017, 08:28:47 PM
With the support of many banks from the country, I hope later bitcoin really can be received in all countries in the world.

I think it's better to wait and watch how this experience works... The only reason I would use a bank service to store Bitcoins is if they pay interest and if there is any guarantee about it, like other centralized banks with fiat. Also, must see if the fees they will charge aren't so high.
2353  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is playing casino games online a good idea? on: June 09, 2017, 07:53:55 PM
You lose money by playing online or land based casinos, it's not an online casino exclusivity. I think it's a very good idea to play online if your country forbid casinos in your country. But if there is a near casino form where you live it's a good idea to play physically, but the online casino will be better anyway, as you can bet since low amounts, different from land based casinos which you need to start betting high compared to online.
2354  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Decentralized products do not worth (yet)? on: June 09, 2017, 07:21:49 PM
The only reason people don't trust decentralized services that I can imagine it's because there isn't guarantees like the centralized by governments.

Like the Bitcoin services (wallets, casinos, exchanges...), you put your money there, but it's always risky, because if tomorrow the service closes, they disappear and you lose everything, in centralized services you have some guarantees, like an insurance.

Is there any other reason that gives advantage to centralized services?
2355  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How can we suggest bitcoin to people after this? on: June 09, 2017, 06:42:37 PM
Expensive fees for transactions shouldn't last forever... At some point things should go back to the good times, when the fees weren't high and it was very worthful for all parts and not only for miners like now. If you aren't confortable to introduce people to Crypto-Currency now because this situation you can wait until things start improving or you can give people hope that this won't last forever as I said...
2356  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling with Monero? on: June 09, 2017, 06:20:52 PM
How think if I start Gambling site use only Monero.. is this good idea or not?
If you are planning to do something,just do it without thinking about it twice,just think about the technical feasibility and the risk involved in running a gambling site,if you could many players then it is your win even if you roll with a single coin,but it is advisable to give the options to the users rather than going for just Monero.
that's right before starting your casino better to ask the players/gamblers since that they are the target audience there's a lots of things to consider monero is not cheap so for those pro gamblers for sure they will stick with btc instead of using alts so you should consult your target audience mate and with price swing its also needed to consider.

I understood that monero is not good for gamling.
dogecoin is cheap.
i think about adding dogecoin

The advantage by gambling with DOGE is that you can bet since very low amounts like 1 satoshi of DOGE. It's a really low amount and maybe you would like to try some strategies starting from such low amounts. Between Monero and DOGE, I would choose DOGE.

On long term it probably won't work anyway...
2357  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Facebook campaigns on: June 09, 2017, 05:29:31 PM
Hard to find Facebook campaigns... That I have notice there is only Why Future and Crypto-Games (this one, you can join only once every 10 days). I can say both worth, because the task is simple and the payrate decent compared to the job difficulty and duration... As was said, just make sure to have a good account with many Crypto friends related, it can take some time until fully build your account.

My experience was always good with the campaigns I joined, but beware because there are scammers trying to have free advertisement by running scam campaigns.
2358  Economy / Marketplace / Re: how earn btc from online??? on: June 09, 2017, 05:02:10 PM
Signature campaign, trading, gambling and offering services are the most common ways of earning bitcoins so you can choose according to your convenience and skills that best suits you and start earning bitcoins without wasting any time.

I think you forgot about faucets. Nowadays you can easily earn 2 dollars daily from faucets. You can earn btc from ptp sites also. You just need to put the referral link in some autosurf and sit back and relax. You can see your account balance growing. You can also try some ptc sites that are paying in bitcoins. Just go to microearning section ,there you can find many legit ptc sites.There are some traffic exchanges that pay you in bitcoin for surfing their sites. Its worth trying these sites.

If you put your faucet referral link in an autosurf site you will most probably make the faucet die. Ads Networks ban faucets which the traffic comes from autosurf and PTC sites. In the past it made the Adsense ban process be faster and even the poorest networks don't allow this kind of traffic. Also, it's very hard to earn $2 daily by using faucets nowadays, at least if you are from a third world country.
2359  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: From faucet to thousands on: June 09, 2017, 04:43:51 PM
There are gambling sites offering better rewards in Faucet than 300 satoshis... Like Crypto-Games.net for an example. Try to make progress in the site and you can claim even more satoshis. Anyway, to grow your bankroll from a faucet reward, you will need not only luck, but patience as the most common tactic is to bet high, like x10-x20 and to make progress this way you need to try a lot of times (Some people try x100).

Then, you will have a nice bankroll to start playing a normal strategy.
2360  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: How to promote faucet in faucet rotators? on: June 09, 2017, 04:32:28 PM
One of the most common faucet list/rotator belongs to this account:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=807582

I think you can PM him here on forum asking to add your faucet to his list. He is very active here.
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