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1961  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Is betting a good choice for a newbie? on: July 15, 2017, 12:59:00 AM
Why not there will surely be a sport that you will watch and overtime some people have the ability to guess who the winner will be easily, if you know any sport  start betting with less amount in starting and if you are able to win slowly increase the betting amount you will surely start making profit. Never go all in in any match even if you are 100% sure keep the maximum amount 50% of your funds

If the person is a newbie he won't have the ability to guess the winners yet, this person won't have a good prediction about it, so I think you mean it's not good for newbies, but it's good if a newbie watch the sport for some time and when he get enough experience on it he can start gambling. So he won't be a newbie anymore, he would turn himself into a skilled sport's predictor.
1962  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why Bitcoin Going Down Badly? on: July 14, 2017, 11:17:59 PM
It is the most probable cause.

Many Bitcoin users out there are afraid of what will happen on August 1st. "Will it split?", "Will it do a hard fork?", "Will the price crash?" or any similar question that is, still, unanswered and cannot be answered as of now. So some people, especially the new ones, are so terrified that they tend to panic sell when the price drops. As we come closer to the said date, we will encounter more of this. This is a normal scenario if we are facing an event that has uncertain results.

Maybe people are exchanging their Bitcoins into AltCoins to wait the August 1, but not all of them. I think there are some big investors enjoying this situation and causing some panic at the market selling their Bitcoins, increasing the supply, so they can come tomorrow or so to buy the cheap Bitcoins and hold even more coins.

It's not possible the price continue dropping so hard for many days, as was said above, we are in 14th yet, so I think there are still chances to make profit before August 1. Let's see how farther this will go...
1963  Economy / Speculation / Re: Experts! is it time to sell or buy? on: July 14, 2017, 05:14:30 PM
Nice movements on BTC price today...

Does everyone agree it's a good time to buy or will the price most likely continue falling, maybe for more one or two days?
1964  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: WokeFaucet on: July 14, 2017, 04:29:55 PM
Do you guys think I have enough posts for adsense?

What do you mean?

There is no way to use Adsense on faucets, they will ban you if you try to join there. Some faucet owners cheat them for some time, but sooner or later they discover it and deny the payment, Adsense is very treacherous... Your balance there can be in $1000, but you need to wait let's say 1 month to receive the payment. Adsense will let you continue using their banners, but when the payment day comes they ban you and you lose all the money pending you were expecting to receive.

These faucet owners who cheat them and use the banners for some time usually don't reveal the secret...
1965  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: instantBTC.net | Only This Weekend UP 120 to 400 Satoshi Bonus! on: July 14, 2017, 04:25:57 PM
Got 250 satoshis, thank you so much.  Smiley

First 100 member post their address here will receive 150 Satoshi as bounus. Smiley Smiley Smiley

Hey, nice! Here is mine: 14vDhK178te3FydGcu8HbcVuWwDZcQvQSZ

Good luck with your faucet, success!
1966  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: July 14, 2017, 03:48:59 AM
My best moves in the dice game are

1.    Select a "strange" seed....  Something like.   B89Ba860uwaPo8whbyfcac

then visit here - and encode your seed with one of the many choices available..  I won't let on my best!.

http://crypo.com/

There are many options on there to use for making seed hashes

2. start low!  

Auto roll bet   0.000120    x 1000 rolls  @  <--Higher 66.90

3. Change seed EVERY 250 Rolls with method above.

4. Once 1000 rolls passed change to

Auto roll bet  0.001000 x 999 rolls @ -->Lower 43.55

change seed ever 199 rolls with method above.

from now I manual roll.  
 0.12000 x 10 rolls  @ 33.33 <-- Higher

Give it a shot I used to like primedice.. but now nitrogen is one of the best dice games out there with jackpots! Smiley

Winning methods can be obtained by playing in the link below in my signature.





I just remember back in the days when I was just a heavy gambler on primedice and other dice casinos online - we used to do these but not on the exact chances and percentage strategy here - we just focus on changing our seeds and we all end up still on a negative bankroll..hehe

What is the purpose of doing this?
like the previous replied said they just doing it thinking to have some chances to win but at the end of the day they still got negative meaning to say that this one wont help anything just letting you to keep losing and yes dice is just a luck base game so we won't say when to win and if there's really a math behind.

But why do they think using this method there are more chances to win?

Any technical reason or just superstition?
1967  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: [Guide] Handling splits: UASFs, BIP148, etc. on: July 14, 2017, 01:53:25 AM
I have no way to download a desktop wallet, I can only use online services to keep my money.

What do you recommend? Don't you think with so many services here on BitcoinTalk Forum there isn't at least few trusted sites where our money can be safe?
1968  Economy / Speculation / Re: happy or scared about the price? on: July 14, 2017, 01:39:46 AM
So feelings are mixed, without denying nobody can stay calm when he sees his investment is going to the drain, but situation is not how it looks like. Majority of people here even enjoying to see this panic, and actively supports this in order to achieve their goals, and you can guess what is this all about.
I also hesitated my feelings like mingled feel happy or not.
But I began to calmly see the price see the price is setabil.
I hope hopefully soon to rise again.

I think it's a good moment to buy Bitcoins now. We don't know what will happen after August 1, but we need to take a prediction and go on... If you wait too much to buy Bitcoins the price can increase and you can lose a profit chance. On the another hand the price can drop even more depending the Bitcoin improvement choices (but I think the chance of this happen is too low).

I prefer to take the prediction the BTC price will increase after August 1 as some people are saying. I expect some nice returns like 50% increasement in BTC price on the next 1-2 months in relation with the currently price, so I'm not scared at all...
1969  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: WokeDogeFaucet on: July 14, 2017, 01:16:11 AM
Payouts are back! Refunded!

The faucet is out of ads and when I paste my address I receive this message:

Invalid API key. Please try again later.

Faucet isn't working.
1970  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Dice game strategy? on: July 14, 2017, 01:04:58 AM
My best moves in the dice game are

1.    Select a "strange" seed....  Something like.   B89Ba860uwaPo8whbyfcac

then visit here - and encode your seed with one of the many choices available..  I won't let on my best!.

http://crypo.com/

There are many options on there to use for making seed hashes

2. start low!  

Auto roll bet   0.000120    x 1000 rolls  @  <--Higher 66.90

3. Change seed EVERY 250 Rolls with method above.

4. Once 1000 rolls passed change to

Auto roll bet  0.001000 x 999 rolls @ -->Lower 43.55

change seed ever 199 rolls with method above.

from now I manual roll.  
 0.12000 x 10 rolls  @ 33.33 <-- Higher

Give it a shot I used to like primedice.. but now nitrogen is one of the best dice games out there with jackpots! Smiley

Winning methods can be obtained by playing in the link below in my signature.





I just remember back in the days when I was just a heavy gambler on primedice and other dice casinos online - we used to do these but not on the exact chances and percentage strategy here - we just focus on changing our seeds and we all end up still on a negative bankroll..hehe

What is the purpose of doing this?
1971  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling Excuses on: July 14, 2017, 12:19:00 AM
No matter how much money you borrow for any amount of excuses and end up gambling with it and the result is same no win their is always a day in everyone's life where they have to answer the unanswered questions or tell the reality. No one escapes remember that

That is true. It's very irresponsible to use other's money to gamble or borrowing money to gamble and depending from where you got this money it can be too dangerous... There are lenders that don't accept to wait too much time for the money back, people who doesn't give them the money back can be assassined. To borrow money isn't a good idea, and to use it to gamble is one of the worse things you can do in your life.
1972  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Where to invest my Bitcoins? on: July 14, 2017, 12:01:37 AM
a good trading bot that will increase your portfolio Smiley
No need for bots although its a good way to increase your profit. But why not learn every single thing in trading by yourself? Bots are helpful. But its better in your feeling when the profit you have earned came from your own strategy and decision. Well it depends if you are also a busy person.

Always that I asked about bots was told me that it's not good. There isn't a 100% bot, they don't have the sensibility to know what to do in emergency situations, if you put your money on their hands they will lose everything, until the last satoshi if necessary or they will give you a high loss.

If you can't trade manually, better to don't trade, otherwise there is a big risk to lose your investment.
1973  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: WokeFaucet on: July 13, 2017, 11:09:33 PM
18tdmaYtknaPA8ombWsFZ9Ur3McH74TtBz

Huh

Haha !  Cheesy

This guy is thinking the faucets here are giving them extra satoshis if they post their addresses on the thread just because there is one faucet offering this.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2017639.0
1974  Economy / Speculation / Re: Experts! is it time to sell or buy? on: July 13, 2017, 11:06:28 PM
deisik -- it is like you expect everything to basically collapse, while you, just like all others here, can only guess and 'voice' your opinion about what potentially might happen. In the same way that people expect everything to go down heavily, the market might as well head up. I have the feeling that you are trying to grab hold on various negative aspects just to make yourself feel better about your positions in Litecoin.

As others have said, no one knows for sure what is going to happen

Apart from likely a few very well connected (say, to Jihan and Ver) individuals, and I'm certainly not one of them. If you ask me (which seems to be the case), I'm inclined to think that there is more than we are told or allowed to see. We see that the total majority of miners (including Jihan Wu's Antminer) are kinda signaling their support for SegWit2x. At the same time, Jihan promised to come up with his own Bitcoin. Could he and his puppets withdraw their vote at the last minute and actually fork Bitcoin the hard way? I think they can, and what's most scary in all this, they might be accumulating hashing power right now (and might have been doing so for many months already) to release the kraken when the right time comes and quickly bring the opposing chains down to their knees. This is just one of the many scenarios which I don't think of as completely impossible

Anyone who comes with their own "Bitcoin" becomes discreditd in my opinion, like that mining company that said they would mine their own Bitcoin (an AltCoin). Nobody will fall on this trap of people trying to create new Bitcoins to destabilize what was built until now (I hope so). Everyone creating alternative Bitcoins will become AltCoin creators letting very clear which one is the original version, Bitcoin's renegades have no future.  Cheesy

In fact, you are farther from truth than you think

Since many people are involved in Bitcoin exclusively for profits (I don't mean it's bad, I'm just telling how things stand in reality), they don't particularly care which specific "brand" of Bitcoin allows them to earn profits. In this way, saying that nobody will fall in this trap is certainly not what is going to happen in real life provided Bitcoin does get forked, of course (which is not likely now when BIP148 seems to be close to failure). If this alternative Bitcoin shows decent profits, people will use it and no amount of determent or reproach will stop them

I agree, most people are involved in Bitcoin exclusively for profits. But as they don't want to lose money they will be very cautious when they must choose a way to follow. The laymen will follow other's advices, but they will check very well first if that advice is good or not.

When someone wants to split the chain, it's already a negative point for that person (it seems somehow that person is greedy and wants to have more control over the currency, at least for laymen that is what it seems) and his opponents will use it at their favour.

You may be right, but I think it's harder to happen, the most probable to happen is to have the alternative Bitcoins dying or becoming low priced currencies... But I'm open mind person, I don't exclude any consequence.  Smiley
1975  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Elitists Ignoring the 3rd world on: July 13, 2017, 05:37:17 AM
When there is a run on the stocks and the markets fall
too quickly, the emergency safety breaker activates to stop the trading (in our
case it doesn't stop, but slows) When you feel the expense and time delay in
getting a transaction confirmed, that is the safety breaker attempting to bring
order from the current disorder. (The fee market that develops from this disorder
is only a byproduct designed to allow time sensitive txs to jump the queue.)

Fast/cheap transactions don't mean the BTC price will fall and crash quickly like could happen at the stock markets.
It would just work like a normal currency (or isn't it to be a normal currency?)

So simply, the 1MB limit helps distribute data for block work/validation in an efficient
and balanced manner. If the transactions could all be cheap and fast, then the system
will quickly grow to the point in which it becomes legally regulatable by governments
and thus valueless to users and society in general. The true value of Bitcoin/bitcoin
comes from it's non-conformance to the current legal and financial system.

Seems the 1MB limit isn't enough, otherwise they wouldn't increase it to 2MB.
Also, I don't understand why the system growing quickly would make it becomes legally regulatable by governments.

What I am saying is if you want cheaper and faster txs,
you will need to give up decentralization and unregulatablilty of the protocol directly.
In my opinion, if that occurs, Bitcoin and its token, has no legitimate value except
as a ponzi. If you sold that new ponzi token to the poor in 2nd and 3rd world countries,
those ponzi pushers will become one of the worst of humanity and will go down in history
as immoral and unhonorable people. They might be super rich off the backs of the
scammed poor, but they will still be seen as the bane of society we attempted to correct.

Why must we give up the decentralization and unregulatablilty of the protocol directly to have cheaper and fast transactions?
There wouldn't be directly intervention, the system would work by itself as it's now, but with proportional power to the number of transactions/users.

The only way these ponzi pushers you say could become rich is if they hold lots of coins and keep holding to make the BTC price increase (controlling the supply, increasing the demand) and then sell when they think BTC has a good price. Anyway, the risk this happen exists now too.

Bitcoin realists refusing to "fix" perfectly functioning system in the hopes of achieving unrealistic goals which could potentially destroy the very unique properties which make Bitcoin useful in the first place.
There, fixed that title for you OP. You're welcome in advance.

Holliday said it in one concise sentence.
I fully agree and should probably work on writing less paragraphs. Lol.

So, if Bitcoin seeks the perfection, Bitcoin could be destroyed in the middle of way?
1976  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Elitists Ignoring the 3rd world on: July 13, 2017, 03:24:13 AM
But here we are just asking for cheaper fees on transactions, that could be achieved just by improving the technology, making the transactions complete faster. This way Bitcoin can help third world countries instantly.

When you "improve technology" to make transactions cheaper and faster (which in theory
will help the 3rd world), where do you think the expenses for the cheaper and faster aspects
get transferred to? If you do not want the users to pay the costs, who do you think should pay
for the cheaper and faster transactions?

The Bitcoin network is more expense than average payment platforms because the expenses
are not subsidized by governments or banks, but is fully maintained by the users and the
network itself. It was designed like this so that there would be no middlemen or controls.  
In theory, every time a user performs a transaction, the expenses/cost of the network increases.

If you don't want users to pay the higher fees, who should be forced to pay them?



If the technology is improved no one must pay higher fees, as the system will work faster. The cost increases because the number of pending transactions increases faster than it finishes. If the network is "empty" of transactions you pay cheaper fees as yours will be processed instantly and you don't need to pay an expensive fee to be put on the top.

We, the users are paying all the costs. But may you are saying if the fees are too cheap the miners will lose interest on it, right?
1977  Economy / Speculation / Re: Experts! is it time to sell or buy? on: July 13, 2017, 02:04:11 AM
deisik -- it is like you expect everything to basically collapse, while you, just like all others here, can only guess and 'voice' your opinion about what potentially might happen. In the same way that people expect everything to go down heavily, the market might as well head up. I have the feeling that you are trying to grab hold on various negative aspects just to make yourself feel better about your positions in Litecoin.

As others have said, no one knows for sure what is going to happen

Apart from likely a few very well connected (say, to Jihan and Ver) individuals, and I'm certainly not one of them. If you ask me (which seems to be the case), I'm inclined to think that there is more than we are told or allowed to see. We see that the total majority of miners (including Jihan Wu's Antminer) are kinda signaling their support for SegWit2x. At the same time, Jihan promised to come up with his own Bitcoin. Could he and his puppets withdraw their vote at the last minute and actually fork Bitcoin the hard way? I think they can, and what's most scary in all this, they might be accumulating hashing power right now (and might have been doing so for many months already) to release the kraken when the right time comes and quickly bring the opposing chains down to their knees. This is just one of the many scenarios which I don't think of as completely impossible

Anyone who comes with their own "Bitcoin" becomes discreditd in my opinion, like that mining company that said they would mine their own Bitcoin (an AltCoin). Nobody will fall on this trap of people trying to create new Bitcoins to destabilize what was built until now (I hope so). Everyone creating alternative Bitcoins will become AltCoin creators letting very clear which one is the original version, Bitcoin's renegades have no future.  Cheesy
1978  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Elitists Ignoring the 3rd world on: July 13, 2017, 01:22:49 AM
People here keep ignoring the fact that most users come from the 2nd or 3rd word, where the income is not that good as some arrogant 1st worlders like to believe.

I kind of thought at first that all these evangelists really want the best for Bitcoin users, how they talk about the "saving of the 3rd world", but nowadays it looks like just another one of those empty slogans, some marketing gimmick just to pool wool over your eyes while the bullshit continues, that kind of thing.
...

Satoshi didn't create Bitcoin to help the poor in 2nd and 3rd world nations.
He created Bitcoin as a reaction to how the current world financial system
takes wealth from the average 1st world people, without representation.
This "stolen wealth" is then distributed to systems that have been corrupted
and caused the original problems that needed the "bailing out". This enforces
and creates a precedent that systems can become "too big to fail".

Satoshi was outraged by that economic belief and understood where it will
lead. It leads to a fully finalized ponzi credit system, where personal savings
is impossible to maintain, and the average person is forced to take on more
and more personal debt, just to buy food and pay for housing. This creates
a world of debt slaves. To counter balance this, the experiment was enacted.
Bitcoin is not a simple currency, it is a deflationary/disinflationary asset.
The purpose of this design type was to not destroy the current world system
or supplant it, but to bring it back into reform to complement the credit.

Only by helping ourselves and forming better financial systems are we than
able to reach out and help the poor. It is like being on a airplane and learning
the basic steps from the flight attendant, in the event of a depressurization.
First, you place the oxygen mask on yourself and then help the person/child
next to you. This ensures that both humans have the procedure to follow, that
best ensures the potential for both to survive.

We can not help the 2nd and 3rd world until we have made a more balanced
Bitcoin network that will not need to rely upon centralized legally regulated
systems such as corporate data centers or government licensed miners. The
Poor will not prosper within a totalitarian centralized Bitcoin, in fact, they will
be controlled and subjugated worse than what they currently exist under.

Thus, on loading the poor from 2nd and 3rd world countries at this point in
Bitcoin's lifespan is immoral and malicious. Lets not try to hurt the poor more,
so that your profits become slightly bigger with dreams that you are freeing
them. In actuality, you are using them and their economic positions as an
emotional argument to centralize the blockchain ledger to a point of failure.

Leave the poor of those nations out of the blocksize/centralization debate.
The truth is, Satoshi didn't create Bitcoin for the 2nd and 3rd world.
It can become that, it could help them one day, but not in this way.
Lots of work still needs to be done before that point. If bitcoin fails soon,
the only people harmed are those of the 1st world, who have the ability
and society to recover from it. On the other hand, if that occurred with the
poor in 2nd and especially 3rd worlds, it could be a death sentence for
them and their families.

We should help free the poor only when we have truly freed ourselves first.
The longer Bitcoin survives in a balanced way, the more we will actually help
them. So, high fees are a current problem for mass adoption, but the true
question should be: "How much are you willing to pay for unregulated
decentralized financial freedom?". If you will only pay a very cheap price,
then your freedom will be equally as cheap.


Does world financial system takes wealth from the average 1st world people without representation for what?

Do you think the societies from 1st world and 2nd/3rd are so different that Bitcoin affects their countries in a different way? In all countries there is a little/medium parcel of society which "feeds" all the rest, in most of the cases the "average" citizen.

But here we are just asking for cheaper fees on transactions, that could be achieved just by improving the technology, making the transactions complete faster. This way Bitcoin can help third world countries instantly.
1979  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The reason that keeps me from investing in bitcoin on: July 12, 2017, 11:40:29 PM
The fee is just a temporary issue which would be fixed with a successful upgrade.  Moreover, since you will be leaving your btc for long term as an investment for almost 3 years, I see no reason why the fee should be a challenge for you. Just make sure you don't put all your eggs in a basket though.

I think this upgrade isn't sufficient on long term. The number of Bitcoin adopters don't stop growing and at some point another upgrade will be needed and all the drama will start again... But for now the news are good, the hardfork probably won't happen and there are some optimistic predictions about BTC price that could increase about 50% in relation with the currently price after August 1.

It's a good idea to invest, but don't to forget the money for 3 years, better to always check how the market is doing.
1980  Economy / Services / Re: Retweet my tweet and get paid in BTC on: July 12, 2017, 11:23:01 PM
Done.

Only one Twitter account allowed?
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