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2361  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Your gambling experiences : before and after bitcoins. on: June 08, 2017, 04:16:59 AM
Before start gambling, I thought I could earn a passive income from it by running the bot with Martingale system on.  Tongue

It looked very improbable to have more than 6-8 losses in a roll, so I was confortable with that, but in the reality there are losses that can reach to 16 losses in a roll or even more! When I discovered about that, I finally reached to the conclusion I couldn't beat the house on long term, so if you can beat them, join them... That is what I did on this case.  Cheesy
2362  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Ethereum faucets on: June 08, 2017, 03:56:01 AM
I suggest you to wait for FaucetHub.io ETH faucets, not only ETH faucets, but there will be added some another altcoins faucets there too, with mini exchange in site, so you can convert your money to one currency or another as you wish in the Micro Payment System site, a very good idea, no?
2363  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Can It Really Happen? on: June 08, 2017, 03:42:32 AM
I believe only someone with big ideal would be able to create something like Bitcoin, and that is the case of Satoshi.

I don't know the real purpose why he intended to create Bitcoin, but considering what you said, as he has the potential to destroy the others faith in Bitcoin if he sells everything, could he be waiting the big whales of this world, the rich people introduce themselves in Bitcoin to make it fail and consequently, turning the wealth of rich people into ashes?

For me, it looks like God watching his own creation, and like in the "Deluge of Noah's Ark" story, at some point, God wanted to destroy the humanity because they weren't corresponding to his laws. Surely it's a figurative meaning, just an example, but something like this, if rich people start trying to control Bitcoin, Satoshi could destroy it.
2364  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoins and Bankers on: June 08, 2017, 02:49:07 AM
They can print fiat to buy Bitcoins, but it would be the ruin of the country's economy... I think no one government will try to do it. I think they will go for another way, by trying to regulate Bitcoin, taking fees over transactions and lowering our individual profit.

If they can take an interesting amount of BTCs over our transactions and ending the pseudo anonymously of Bitcoin will be enough for them. They just want to have control over us, our actions and our money. We need to avoid it.
2365  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Can It Really Happen? on: June 08, 2017, 01:55:49 AM
It's not a secret Satoshi Nakamoto has more than 1 million of Bitcoins in his wallet, right?

If he suddenly wants to sell all his Bitcoins, could it cause a chaos in Bitcoin market making the price fall? Or is this amount too insignificant to cause any mess?
2366  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin prices rise high on: June 08, 2017, 01:13:07 AM
People who are unemployed have finally saw bitcoin as a source of income some people are now willing to leave their low pay rate and 8 hours of work depending on the OT/Overtime. Due to the price pump people now engaging the world of crypto curency and finding services that will help them earn bitcoin. I guess they're tired of they're real job as they can't manage their own time to work and all the efforts being wasted still their not earning enough. So they're trying so hard to learn bitcoin and wants to make a living with an online job.

Where did you get that from? Creative but probably untrue. Freelancing has been increasingly popular regardless of BTC's recent growth. By your logic people are just doing extra work to earn some extra income. If so what makes them choose BTC over being paid in straight FIAT since that's really what they're after. BTC is extremely volatile. It can rise one day and fall a lot the next. Why would anyone leave a stable job to be paid solely in BTC? That's a huge risk and not one many people would take. Sorry but your post just doesn't make sense.

I think he is saying about trading, that people are lefting their jobs to become traders, making a lot of profit daily with few clicks... I don't know if it's true too, but some people, especially from Asia are known traders, I believe few of them are really making profit from Crypto-Currency this way and less common, from freelancing jobs. I just think this practice is too dangerous and most traders lose money while a minority parcel makes profit.
2367  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: earning bitcoin autopilot on: June 07, 2017, 07:04:44 PM
There are some tricks to earn on "autopilot", but people try to keep it in secret, so many people don't use it and they can enjoy the method.

To invest small amounts of money to earn "autopilot" never works, it won't give you decent income, you need to invest much money to receive good amount interest back. An example if the FreeBitco.in faucet, do you know? Balances over 30.000 satoshis there receive about 0.01% interest daily.

FaucetGame.com has this feature, to earn automatically on casino games (profit on long term), but you need VIP there and I don't know if they are selling VIPs yet.
2368  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: bitcoin is broken on: June 07, 2017, 06:30:17 PM
I understand what you say, I don't want to pay a lot to transact Bitcoins too... So, I just wait until developers start working in a solution to solve the issue with transactions, meanwhile I try to avoid maximum as possible to make transactions. You can do it also, but don't think Bitcoin is broken, if it were broken, the price wouldn't be increasing so much and these people wouldn't be buying it.
2369  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: June 07, 2017, 05:10:55 PM
Bitcoin is still better than most fiat currencies

It is indeed highly volatile, but its volatility is mostly to the upside anyway, and this is in stark contrast to fiat currencies which might in fact not be as volatile as Bitcoin itself but they all without exception go down in value (i.e. depreciate) in the long term. Apart from that, "temporary jobs" are what many businesses routinely deal with, i.e. they receive an order and fulfill it, then wait for the next order. Or don't wait but it doesn't change anything in respect to "temporary" nature of their job. Freelancing is pretty much the same. Strictly speaking, it is a sort of small business in its own right

I agree about how good is to deal with BTCs because the upside volatility. I like the temporary freelancing jobs too, the only negative effect is that we don't have guarantees and it can finish anytime, hard to live from this kind of activity. Today you can have a good job, earning in BTCs, but tomorrow they can tell you: we are finished now

As I said, it is the same with many businesses

But you don't need to be involved in just one project. If it requires you to spend most of your time, your work should be paid accordingly. In other words, you toil one month, and then you can live a year off doing basically nothing. Apart from that, many projects (if we talk about developing) need support anyway, so again you can lay yourself out for a certain period of time, and then live off that project providing support and consultancy. More such projects will make your life a lot easier

If the market goes well (if there are many jobs, economy working nice, money circulating), there will be always disponible jobs for everyone, since low skills based jobs until high skill based jobs, theoretically it can work very well.

I think your example about toil one month and then live a year off doing basically nothing applies better for high skilled jobs, paying more money, I know people that make movies, cinematographic area live this way, but for most people, they will need to work all year long to have a decent income and live well, as they don't have skills to apply to advanced jobs.

However it's not impossible for ordinary, biggest parcel of population people too, as they can save money and at some point an investment will be enough to receive a decent income and live more confortably by receiving passive income, and with the extra boost of the BTC price constantly increasing.
2370  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: New way and this works fine for me on: June 07, 2017, 04:48:40 PM
Good to have control over your gambling game, but it won't prevent you to lose more or less while playing... If you continue gambling, on long term your statistics will show you are losing, because it's really hard to have profit on long term. So you will need to choose if you play for fun or not, because for profit, at some point it becomes inviable.
2371  Economy / Economics / Re: Future of the BTC on: June 07, 2017, 04:40:31 PM
Bitcoin will be recognized, i dont know what Japan has called bitcoin if a currencie or an asset, similiar to gold, but a digital one, anyway this will be followed by others countries on the next years for sure. The volatility of bitcoin has and still atracting a lot new investors that wanna to make and earn money doing trading, the most of them are just into bitcoin and doesnt care about altcoins at all.

It's true, Bitcoin volatility only helps the currency to continue rising more and more and to be adopted by more people and countries. I believe there are two kind of investors: Those who care about Crypto-Currency at all and love all the aspects of the this invention, and those who wants to have only profit from the best and well known Crypto-Currency, Bitcoin. This second group doesn't spend much time searching on the internet about Crypto-Currency, they just want to buy Bitcoins and hold it, so they don't care about Altcoins at all, as you said.
2372  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How is bitcoin not multi level marketing? on: June 07, 2017, 03:47:08 PM
There are Multi Level Marketing schemes using Bitcoin, but Bitcoin isn't one itself. It's not even necessary to invest to start earning Bitcoins, different from MLM, which you need to pay some money to join the scheme.

Better to stay away from MLMs, especially those scams using Bitcoins, if you join it you will be just wasting your precious satoshis that could price a lot in the future. If you want to receive comission over your friends earnings, join some paying BTC sites like FreeBitco.in and Crypto Casinos, send your referral link to your friends and you will receive some % over their earnings. It's not MLM anyway.  Cheesy
2373  Economy / Marketplace / Re: question on money making guides on: June 07, 2017, 03:35:56 PM
I think MLM, or multi-level marketing, are not all ponzi. Some of them are legit, but the thing is that you should be the top-line and you have to recruit a lot of people to be your down-line to profit a lot. Hyips though. are something different and are just the waste of time.
An MLM should be considered as valid when there will be some actual business is involving. I mean to say if an MLM is just rotating people's money then it must be a ponzi. At the same time, if an MLM is paying commission for the work invoked for promoting a business then it should be considered as legit.

In simple other words, if MLM asks you to pay some $100 and they are giving you back some services or products which are worth for ~$100 then it will be legit. If you are paying $100 then you upper line is getting $10 and his upper line is getting another $10, then that must be a ponzi.

This way I could agree with you, if they are really promoting something or earning shares from sold products this system can work, but I have never seen any legit scheme like that using Bitcoins, all of them I have seen are Ponzi, HYIP schemes, luring people to think Crypto-Currency is a magical world where money comes from nothing to investors pockets.

And HYIPs are always scam. Guides advicing this kind of investment shouldn't be taken in consideration.
2374  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Would you buy Bitcoin now with hard cash? on: June 07, 2017, 02:48:27 AM
If i have lots of cash on hand, of course i will buy bitcoin today. Why would i waste that oppurtunity to invest bitcoin since i have lots of money, i will take that advantage because i know to myself that bitcoin is still rising, if it dumps, i dont care, it will pump anyway. Bitcoin has a big future and everyone can see it. We are all hoping to become successful through it.

Yes, this way you can grow your fortune quickly. Bitcoin is pricing a lot and constantly increasing, no losses if you choose to hold your Bitcoins. The risk is high if you choose to gamble or to invest in dangerous investments. The chances to make profit are very high now, so it's better to enjoy the opportunity, it won't last so profitable forever!
2375  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Poon tang for bitcoin on: June 07, 2017, 01:13:35 AM
recently made a massive profit from my btc holdings.

now looking to convert all that energy into something really beneficial.  Anyone know where i can get some reliable poon tang for my money? 

Is it considered prostitution if you pay with bitcoin?



Surely it is... Doesn't matter if you pay in fiat, Bitcoin or in any other way (objects, favours...), any reward for sex is prostitution...

For OP's question, I think there are online services offering what you want, accepting Bitcoins as payment method. Or you can try a good bargain with a prostitute at your city, who knows if you can introduce someone to Crypto-Currency world this way.  Tongue
2376  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bitcoin Faucet website Idea: I want your opinion! on: June 07, 2017, 12:58:10 AM
I don't know if this will work... You are sharing a percentage of comission with your referrals. People who will use faucets by your referral.

Even doing this the rewards are still low and there aren't so many faucets these days, especially with 100 satoshis reward each.

To use adfly short links is good, but how often will you make users watch it (5 seconds each ads)?

Thanks for your opinion!  Cheesy

In fact, I want to share a part of advertising incomes with users (20% to 30% are from there). And for shorterned links, I plan to use Full Page Script tool (available on all of these kind of services). That means, for each faucet page opened via my website, users will have to wait 5 seconds until to access to it... and in the most case, they have to do captcha by waiting this time. So, is it uninteresting for users? This is my question for the moment... I just don't know what potential future users could think about it.

So, like I said, I want to share a part of advertising incomes with workers. And, take in consideration that in this idea.... all of this additioning satoshis earnings are bonuses. So, if for example, users win 50,000 satoshis with its faucets earnings, they will earn 10,000 to 15,000 additionnal satoshis for each 500 faucets used on this kind of website. As a faucet user, for me this is very more interesting than only use standard faucet list or rotator. No?

Also, the level system is there to make their additional earning even more interesting.  Wink

Another opinions? Feel free to tell me what do you think... I created this subject for that!

For people who will complete hundreds (os thousands) of captchas, it will be very bored to wait 5 seconds (short link) between each faucet claim.

Sites using this kind of ads have some limitations, like Dwarven BitMine, where you start claiming every 5 minutes, but you upgrade your mine in game and can claim each 3 hours or more... So, you will see a short adfly link only every 3 hours. When you have to claim every 5 minutes there were a limit too, at some point you stopped seeing adfly and start seeing normal captcha.

The idea is interesting, people will surely prefer to use a service like yours than normal rotators without extra rewards, but keep in mind there aren't so many faucets to claim now. To make it worth there should be many faucets paying 100 satoshis reward and not 10-50 satoshis as I most see now.

Better to wait for more opinions about it. Let's see.  Wink
2377  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Reward bitcoin get bitcoin very easy on: June 07, 2017, 12:42:02 AM
Confused faucet, I claim and it appears: "Claim again generated your xrb address".

Why does it appear? The normal is: "X satoshis sent to..."

You are using FaucetSystem, would be nice to use FaucetHub.io, the most popular micro payment system now.
2378  Economy / Micro Earnings / Re: Bitcoin Faucet website Idea: I want your opinion! on: June 07, 2017, 12:23:49 AM
I don't know if this will work... You are sharing a percentage of comission with your referrals. People who will use faucets by your referral.

Even doing this the rewards are still low and there aren't so many faucets these days, especially with 100 satoshis reward each.

To use adfly short links is good, but how often will you make users watch it (5 seconds each ads)?
2379  Economy / Economics / Re: Bitcoin reduces unemployment on: June 06, 2017, 03:40:40 PM
I think in the presence of bitcoin will reduce unemployment, because searching for bitcoin also requires hard work and creativity, and competitiveness in bitcoin is also high almost similar to work in the real world

What is your opinion this time?
Yes it reduces unemployment, but it only provides a temporary job, more like a sideline or part-time job. Because the price of bitcoin is volatile so we can't expect income to be stable. Looking at the bright side, bitcoin can help those who are unemployed to earn money for their everyday needs while they are still looking for a stable job. And for those who already had a job, they can earn additional income in bitcoin if they can manage their time

Bitcoin is still better than most fiat currencies

It is indeed highly volatile, but its volatility is mostly to the upside anyway, and this is in stark contrast to fiat currencies which might in fact not be as volatile as Bitcoin itself but they all without exception go down in value (i.e. depreciate) in the long term. Apart from that, "temporary jobs" are what many businesses routinely deal with, i.e. they receive an order and fulfill it, then wait for the next order. Or don't wait but it doesn't change anything in respect to "temporary" nature of their job. Freelancing is pretty much the same. Strictly speaking, it is a sort of small business in its own right

I agree about how good is to deal with BTCs because the upside volatility. I like the temporary freelancing jobs too, the only negative effect is that we don't have guarantees and it can finish anytime, hard to live from this kind of activity. Today you can have a good job, earning in BTCs, but tomorrow they can tell you: we are finished now...

A good point to earn in Bitcoins too is that on long term you are earning a higher wage (if you don't spend your BTCs).
2380  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling. Is It Wrong? on: June 06, 2017, 03:24:38 PM
Gambling is created for fun and it has a return to it's gamblers for giving you a chance to win but if you will mostly think about money/winning.

That will be wrong in gambling.


Gambling is about making money and thats it. There are no other reason that it was created in the first hand. What I actually mean about making money is that it is making money for atleast its operator . It is a kind of business and business is created to make profit therefore gamblers lost most of the time when they play

Could not agree more. There is a big reason why casinos thrive for very long time even if they spend lots of money to invite high rollers to play to their casinos. That is business and giving entertainment to their customers and in return of providing that kind of entertainment, they will win more from players and that is their reward/profit.

It is correct that casinos are made for the owners to make money - after all it is an investment from their side in which they want to earn money form. Their method is to get some high rollers into the game and showcase that to the public. In turn the public potential gamblers get jealous of their wins and go in to try their luck driven by jealousy and greed. If you cannot understand then possibly you are an addict already.

Casinos are made for the owners make money, Ok, but if some players don't earn money too it will be worthless and nobody will want to play at this casino... The profit is shared among few gamblers who win big, casino owners and investors. All the rest loses money, but they continue playing because they are trying to belong to the small parcel earning big... There are chances, but it's hard.
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