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1281  Economy / Speculation / Re: Youre Being Lied too (crash) on: April 12, 2013, 01:54:10 AM


Yep they are down for trading until april 12 2:00 utc! But you already knew that because i saw you yapping away about how much of a chicken you are in a thread labeled "how will you react at 2 utc" !!  --->> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=173918.0


I'm still putting in my lowball bids 10s and 20s but I am seriously thinking they won't get filled now, and I'll just have to be happy with what coins I have left, because I am too chicken to buy any higher Cheesy



Maybe you should reserve talking for everyone else its clearly not working for you!


Anything else?

(thanks for bumping my thread like i instructed you to do!)
1282  Economy / Speculation / Re: Will the government attack BitCoin? on: April 12, 2013, 12:57:32 AM
its already happening.. but its not them i think its banks.. via bots and ddos!  We must re-route there arse to black hole!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172619.0


They want the volatility to get in the press as NEGATIVE in a big way!
its working.. bots are creating a landslide and the herd just follows blindly..

We need maximum per day drop limits and cooling periods like the real stock exchanges and we will be fine!
1283  Economy / Speculation / Re: Youre Being Lied too (crash) on: April 12, 2013, 12:47:33 AM
A price is nothing but sentiment that represents a balance between what people are willing to pay to buy, and what they are willing to receive to sell.
You say 'a crapload of coins', while I see your list of 0.02 orders in between the real ones of 100+ coins, that's not a crapload. If you put a load of trades in between blocks at 173 and 174, all it does is go from 174 to 173 smoothly, if they weren't there a sale of one coin would just go straight from 174 to 173.


Hey thanks for your input.. sometimes there are no other trades in between! For x amount of time!!! Nobody can get in and trade but bots!

 I think you miss understood  i said a crap load of micro trades loosing regular folks a crap load of coins since they are artificially induced to sell!!  I wont edit what ive wrote already but ill go back and look at it but thats what i meant..  

what ever side of the coin youre on a dialog about it is what we need ..







who cares, im glad I got out, i couldn't care less if it rebounded and it will rebound tomorrow which is what the bulls are waiting for so they can sell at a better price and then the market will be completely screwed

You got shaken out. Now you'll buy back in at a higher price + fees + a bottle of KY.

FTFY Cheesy



^^ this !!!

lolz... noobs getting slaughtered! .. (its funny but its not) its tough not to laugh but..

<snip.. CRAZY TALK ... snip>

Defend youre friends, family, community and the eco-system that entangles us all!! Virtual or not!


Gene Ray? Is that you?



Aww look whos back from pissing at himself!  

Yeah i said it "its FUNNY!!!" Its funny when it happens naturally.. its happened to all of us!

When youre new you make mistakes and you learn from them.
Like a basketball player trying to dunk for the first time and he hits nothing but rim and falls backwards!! If youve ever tried to dunk and thats happened to you its funny watching someone else ..


BUT!! When youre watching someone trying to dunk and you see others throwing rocks at him right when he is trying to dunk then its NOT FUNNY AT ALL!  Youre thinking hey that coulve been me when i was trying to learn!!


So yeah its funny but its not!  <------ Crystal for you! Sometimes you have to spell it out for the tards!

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now fek off and get out my thread if you dont want to contribute you can just watch and learn! You think its a coincidence gox is down ...  

maybe you should get bigger bifocals a better urcle sweater and a pointy tie and maybe we will take you seriously... in fact dont fek off .. just come back and keep bumping my thread for me... the more people that read it the more people are aware ...
1284  Economy / Speculation / Re: Youre Being Lied too (crash) on: April 11, 2013, 11:37:16 PM
So what's really your point, zedicus? You bought in at $250?


Look right above youre post! If you cant read find someone to spell it out for you a letter at a time ....!



Relax dude. It still quite high. 100 dollar is a lot, if you think about it. Bitcoin used to be 35 a couple of weeks ago.  That is still an enormous growth.

It is just a correction or something like that. Maybe some big people cashed out. Or people got anxious that it would fall and started selling.


That i agree with even 100 is high but nowhere near a top.. merely a staggering point right now from the volatility! I bought in multiple times at quite a few price ranges so even now im not even flinching. The issue is how we got here!


If you want to make money, buy low, sell high.  If you want to do something else than do that but stop whining.  You can't stop manipulators from manipulating no matter how much you try to manipulate people with lame posts on the forums.  Speculators drive the price up and smart speculators sell and drive it down for profit.


Hey man its ok if youre not the sharpest knife in the drawer! <---- i just called you a dumb arse)

But if im traveling down a road every morning and someone takes a shot at me and everyone else on the road best believe im gonna armed to the teeth next time or at the minimum im gonna make a public announcement so that everyone knows where the sniper is at!

Youre saying ----->>> just sit there like a lil **** and get shot at.. in fact dont tell anyone else about it let them get killed too..! If thats youre stance then maybe you dont even belong in the drawer! In fact get the hell out my thread! Before i assign you  some tuna to open! like a dam can opener..  lulz




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Ok now to the goods...

We got people attacking the community and bitcoin in general via ddos attacks and coordinated bot action !

Example! Ill quote myself from the other thread later but its not hard to see. We have issues outside of the DDOS which is obviously giving the exchanges a hard time!(! Not just mtgox either

The issues are a bots making trades under the minimum amount not doubt using high frequency trading algorithms that make purchases a few peanuts at a time !

The effect is they can make purchase via api and custom bots that come in a lot faster than regular traders can purchase.. so the bots just make a load of low price high volume trades(micro trades) and on lookers (noobs) staring at charts that they dont even understand are seeing red arrows pointing downwards and the price per bitcoin falling and they cant even make a trade because of the lag being put on the system because of the DDOS and the BOTS!!

It looks likes the price is tanking and it ensues a panic sell off at which point a crap load of people loose funds ( those people are the new comers whos confidence we need!!) we need onlookers and investors to embrace bitcoin. We dont need people looking at it like a noob slaughter house where you show up and get scammed out of your btc or fiat  money!


So the bots only have to initiate the landslide and the herd just follows like dumb arses!!


here is a quote from the other thread regarding micro trade filtering and DDOS!






(i was referring to mtdox when i said ask them)

ask em about that!!! Macro order flooding  via bots that trap out regular customer but computer systems dont get trapped out in a panic and they can drive it down via 50 a pop or smaller!! happens every-time is there is a panic! Like someone is manipulating !! Doesn't care about $ its micro manipulate and watch it tank! (look at the dam pics!!)

 Gox needs to filter out micro or macro trades or do something! Thats whats cause's the wild drops and panic !! Probably banks with some bots and endless fiat money!  Needs to be addressed!


Drive it down via those small trades and watch the herd jump ship ! Since there is no cooling period or auto shut off its disastrous! !

Thats whats gonna kill it!  We need a % slide rule and cooling period put in like the real wall-street trading platforms do!

If it falls by x amount they stop trading for x amount of time! "Cooling period"  Hours .. till the next day! Whatever .. something is better than nothing!




At this rate in this setup.. a foreign entity with negative intention's towards bitcoin could micro trades us to our deaths!




Look.. they switch it up .. this time 50c at a time!

Its the same bots!! getting in faster than everyone else to make the trades at 50c a pop and driving it downwards!
 while the regular folks are stuck watching .. trapped cant make a trade and just watch the landslide until they can stop the bleeding and get in to "sell".







Then after the herd sells the same bot operator grabs a crap load of cheap coins .. RINSE & Repeat!!


Happens every-time there is a panic !! EVERY-TIME!!




YOURE ARE BEING PLAYED LIKE A VIDEO GAME!!


Get mtgox and the other exchanges to acknowledge this and take steps!!

The wont unless there is massive pressure because they profit obnoxiously from these mass sell of .. to the tune of millions!!!!

they get a % of all the trades people!





1285  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 09:40:58 AM
HOLD SPARTANS!
1286  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: [Avalon Asic] trade-in Thread on: April 11, 2013, 08:05:07 AM
After yesterday i would think everyone is "thinking" about the value of btc! Both sellers and buyers in the btc community!
1287  Economy / Speculation / Re: The real cause of the "panic" on: April 11, 2013, 07:25:38 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172944.msg1801287#msg1801287

post#35



Put that s*** on blast ! get gox to do something about it!
1288  Economy / Speculation / Re: Mtgox statement on facebook on: April 11, 2013, 07:21:13 AM



ask em about that!!! Macro order flooding  via bots that trap out regular customer but computer systems dont get trapped out in a panic and they can drive it down via 50 a pop or smaller!! happens every-time is there is a panic! Like someone is manipulating !! Doesn't care about $ its micro manipulate and watch it tank! (look at the dam pics!!)

 Gox needs to filter out micro or macro trades or do something! Thats whats cause's the wild drops and panic !! Probably banks with some bots and endless fiat money!  Needs to be addressed!


Drive it down via those small trades and watch the herd jump ship ! Since there is no cooling period or auto shut off its disastrous! !

Thats whats gonna kill it!  We need a % slide rule and cooling period put in like the real wall-street trading platforms do!

If it falls by x amount they stop trading for x amount of time! "Cooling period"  Hours .. till the next day! Whatever .. something is better than nothing!




At this rate in this setup.. a foreign entity with negative intention's towards bitcoin could micro trades us to our deaths!
1289  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 05:42:55 AM
Looks like they shifted gears: 0.04s driving price down by $0.50 a pop. Just plain uncalled for...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suyOUiInQwA&t=18m19s
So can we get a cooling period put into the gox!! drop 35% in price of bitcoin and auto shutdown and cooling period .. shutdown for like 3-5 hours maybe more!!!



We need to put this bot attack on blast! Its one thing to have a bot .. thats fine.. but a bot used to ensue panic ...    errr


Whats the sentiment!?

1290  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 05:06:22 AM
 



1291  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 05:02:27 AM
Mt. Gox needs to implement some sort of spam filtering on small orders. Lowering their volume might be a good start to help out the lag/panic issue.

Boy this sure looks legit to me...






They could limit the number of orders for each account per day. A normal human account should make no more than 1000 orders per day. Big volume accounts may have higher limit. People may apply for an increase of limit if they are trading properly



We may have to pressure gox into taking steps it seems they are lax or maybe they have interest in it or how can you NOT see this and its effects! !!!!
They profit from the panic so i dont think they will take steps unless pressured!
1292  Economy / Speculation / Re: InfoWars News says BitCoin will be OutLawed! on: April 11, 2013, 04:31:44 AM
First of all its mike adams from natural news.. second he is a supporter! If you watch the video .. he says it may go alot higher 500, 1000, 10000 but" eventually its going to crash!!


TELL INFOWARS to bring there arse into "speculation" with the rest of us!
 
Call us when they have info we dont!! ( sometime we need a good waking up) lolz


By the way they are both into gold and silver big time! Lolz

they think there is an assault on gold, right now!
http://www.infowars.com/the-assault-on-gold/


http://www.infowars.com/the-assault-on-gold/



Like i said we welcome them in "speculation" anytime!  Grin




 



EDIT!!!!!!!!!



There was actually some great points made by mike adams regaurding the bots! 18:18
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1293  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 03:59:42 AM

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172944.0

Could it be! Gox was down because of authentic traffic? All the other charts and sites were magically but naturally stressed!!
Gonna have to hit up comboy and see why he was down! Someone hit up clarkmoody and see if he was DDOSed! Where is theymos!? Ask him if bitcointalk was DDOSd today!!?
  

the forums were lagging like mad for me all day, and sometimes the forums didn't respond at all.

is it because of to many people hitting the forums all at once?

or was it DDOS...

is their a way to distinguish between DDOS and a million noobs hitting refresh?

Well you can run a cross check on youre ip traffic with a list of known botnet ip's.. You can use DDOS mitigation services that have analyses and forensic tools too...



1294  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 03:33:50 AM



https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=172944.0

Could it be! Gox was down because of authentic traffic? All the other charts and sites were magically but naturally stressed!!
Gonna have to hit up comboy and see why he was down! Someone hit up clarkmoody and see if he was DDOSed! Where is theymos!? Ask him if bitcointalk was DDOSd today!!?


  
1295  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 02:54:54 AM



The current state of affairs. Asian Tigers to the rescue tonight?

Wink, Wink!   Grin
1296  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker on: April 11, 2013, 02:40:55 AM
Looks like it is going down again, gox lag slowly increasing too.
It went down because the damn 0.001 boy kept spamming down for hours and scaring already fearful traders. The bot owns bid are probably all being sold into right now and he is laughing his head off.



^^^^^^^ THIS!
1297  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is it actually over? Or are we going to see a gradual decline like last time on: April 11, 2013, 02:18:59 AM
yeah alot of people just got punked for their coins! ..We gotta reroute the ddso on our way to a may $300 party!! All aboard!  Grin
1298  Economy / Speculation / Re: Youre Being Lied too (crash) on: April 11, 2013, 01:00:41 AM
who cares, im glad I got out, i couldn't care less if it rebounded and it will rebound tomorrow which is what the bulls are waiting for so they can sell at a better price and then the market will be completely screwed

You got shaken out. Now you'll buy back in at a higher price + fees + a bottle of KY.

FTFY Cheesy



^^ this !!!

lolz... noobs getting slaughtered! .. (its funny but its not) its tough not to laugh but..

Sucks they didnt get slaughtered from true market conditions .. They got manipulated !!!

Never hear about New York stock exchange going down to a herd of botnets!! Price plummeting on apple and MS stocks by 160 points..


Its ok to be ignorant because youre new or dont know what the hell youre doing but.. Thats what i was trying to say to grndzero .. when he said he lost coins when he was new at trading!! Thats ok .. thats whats supposed to happen!..


when someone plays youre hand for you and you dont even realize it its another story. lots of people got played today but it wasnt because they ignorant or stupid ..

They got played because of fabricated market conditions that attempted to paralyze the community while they reaped the opportunity!



Also its not the opportunity of gaining coins that they took.. not just that!

They also took the lime light away from alot of the positive momentum BITCOIN had .. might take weeks and months to recover from the oncoming FUD campaign! But it might only take a day or two days or a week to retrieve our $ position! Hell its at 180$ right now! (points and laugh) <<--- sorry i had too.. lolz

so thats not the issue .. the true believers in btc already new that.. $300 by MAY!!!? four??



They are taking more than coins but people are so fixated on the crash or the bubble ..they are missing the fact that people are gunning for bitcoins swagger!!






Im like dam get over it .. you wanted it to be a bubble soooo bad.. well there ya go enjoy your 4 hour fabricated wannabe crash / bubble .

A bunch of forbes and bloomberg fucks are chuckling away untill they see the $ skyrocket back!!! lolz..


One day we may find out that the behemoth mutant freakshow currency we call bitcoin was no where near a true bubble or crash and we were hundreds if not thousands per coin away from such an event & the only thing they could do was lag it.. (points and laughs)

 




Who is 'we' ? and what is it that we should be doing?

"Pissing in the wind" seems an appropriate metaphor.

To the guy that asked who is we? Youre either with us or against us! If you dont know who is who or where you stand ... let me spell it our for you!~!


To everyone else thats knows ---->>>  us     =       the people who use promote and believe in bitcoin. We trade it, create communitys like bitcoitalk so we can dialog about it. We build places like bitcoinity ("comboy from this forum").. or bitinstant or mtgox or all the other sites services and overall community of bitcoiners!! Thats US !!


Them =  the goverments, the bankers, the people who hold huge footprints in our society's and run mega corporations that are hiding 32 trillion in offshore accounts tax free!! http://articles.latimes.com/2012/jul/23/business/la-fi-mo-tax-havens-20120723



THATS THEM!

Find out what side of the fence youre on and you wont have to ask who is who!



Defend youre friends, family, community and the eco-system that entangles us all!! Virtual or not!






1299  Economy / Speculation / Re: Youre Being Lied too (crash) on: April 10, 2013, 09:32:35 PM
^^ and its a mere coincidence that nobody on this thread agrees with you and you had to retort your fail in concrete!
lolz




PS: youre charts have been manipulated ... just like you were.

Was that all you got?
1300  Economy / Speculation / Re: Youre Being Lied too (crash) on: April 10, 2013, 09:20:26 PM
^^ No doubt guys!!

PEOPLE ARE Wrong to assume its people renting botnets! It could be banks, gov competing currency runners like amazon! Yeah they have there own lame amazon coins like facebook credits .. they are looking at bitcoin like man i wish that was OURS!! We must kill it with fire!! Thats what they are thinking!

If they cant have it they want control knobs on it!







We must dialog and re-route around this shit technically or otherwise!
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