mal zurück zum Thema zu kommen. Was denken die Analysten über den Anstieg. Haben ja bald die 7000 Dollar wieder erreicht. Gehen wir dadurch oder prallen wir wieder ab? THX  Wird über kurz oder lang weiter hoch gehen, sonst würde es ja nicht mehr funktionieren. Es muss immer bergauf gehen wenn der Rubeln weiter rollen soll. Ich hab mich von einem sinkenden BTC seit geraumer Zeit gedanklich verabschiedet und hinterfrage das auch nicht mehr weil es keine plausible Gundlage gibt sondern nur die Gier nach mehr und das funktioniert, dafür sind die Teilnehmer so erzogen worden. Kursbewegungen von mehr als $1000 pro Tag sind auch nicht mehr unnormal, gibt ja keine plausible Bewertungsmöglichkeit für das Spekulationsobjekt. wenn bitcoin auch nur geringe anteile an bereichen wie dem online-payment bereich oder dem international remittances bereich abdecken soll, dann muss der gegenwert eines einzelnen coins noch mindestens um den faktor 10-100 steigen, damit der fiat gegenwert dieser finanzbereiche überhaupt abgedeckt werden kann. was hat das denn mit gier zu tun? wenn ich als hodler darauf warte, dass eine massenadaption kommt, was hat das mit gier zu tun? ich stelle mal in den raum, dass manche, die von der GIER der anderen sprechen, vielleicht eher NEID meinen. den eigenen. edit: typo |
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Ich vermute, es geht ein paar Tage bis Wochen eher seitwärts weiter und dann wieder rauf, ...
Vielleicht bricht es auch nochmal kurzfristig ein bischen ein. Der Anstieg 2016/2017 war ja schon extrem. ... sobald sich das Ganze mit der Forkerei beruhigt hat...
Die beruhigen sich in nächster Zeit nicht mehr. Die einen sind so wütend (über ihr Versagen bei der Machtergreifung), dass sie bereits Schaum vor dem Maul haben. Bei den anderen wurde die Gier geweckt (analog zu den Altcoins). Ich denke, es geht gerade erst so richtig los. sehe ich ähnlich. es wurde hier im thread auch schon geposted: 1. runde: bitcoin = erfolg. aber nicht alle haben abgesahnt. andere wollen auch absahnen also: 2. runde: altcoins = erfolg oder misserfolg schwer zu bewerten, aber abgesahnt haben einige. aber immer noch nicht alle. also: 3. runde: ICO via ether = erfolg oder misserfolg schwer zu bewerten, aber abgesahnt haben einige. aber immer noch nicht alle. also: 4. runde: bitcoin forken = erfolg oder misserfolg too soon to tell, aber abgesahnt haben einige. aber immer noch nicht alle. also: rinse&repeat... ich schätze da werden dann demnächst wöchentlich forks kommen. dann werden sie wahrscheinlich anfangen: 5. runde: altcoins forken 6. runde: ICO´s forken. (lol, geht das?) 7. runde: bitcoin forks forken (geht ja schon los mit bcash+ im januar) edit: typo |
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hass...
ich bin mit dem, was core bisher erreicht hat in sachen bitcoin, mit der art und weise (focus auf dezentralisierung) sehr zufrieden. warum gerade jetzt, auf dem höhepunkt des erfolges, all diese attacken kulminieren, weiss ich nicht. jetzt hatten wir jahrelang "civil war" und jetzt sind die lager endlich in zwei verschiedene chains gesplittet und es gibt trotzdem keine ruhe von den bigblockern. wieso wollen die bigblocker unbedingt bitcoin zerstören? ihr habt jetzt bcash, ihr habt einen CEO, ihr habt sogar satoshi n. (lol) mit im boot. warum gebt ihr keine ruhe und spielt weiter auf eurem eigenen feld? hört das denn nie auf? was wollt ihr noch hier? edit: noch |
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BCH was dead until Segwit2X died...now it's a thing again.
Until January when Coinbase releases peoples' BCH to the millions of users that like free money.
that is why they are going to fork bcash into bcash+ on jan 2nd...  |
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It pisses me off how much smarter than me you are.   grrr when moon? he isn´t. missing to see the context, the bigger picture is not smart. That might apply just as well to me. I dumped, I'm hugely biased. Chinese bootlegging is a terrifying trillion dollar a year industry. I just can't help seeing these things as knock-off Bitcoins. But it is a protocol after all. Ignore me. I'm torn. I'm babbling. I don't know. when it comes to thieves staying unbiased is not the way to go. |
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It pisses me off how much smarter than me you are. grrr when moon? he isn´t. missing to see the context, the bigger picture is not smart. |
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Remember readers, if you hold Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash in equal proportions, you can sit back and watch the whales battle it out. If you don't have inside information, you're at a significant disadvantage when trading.
I take that as a public confession of insider trading. I hope you are aware of the fact that insider trading is illegal in practically any jurisdiction in the world? If you are even somewhat representative of the Bitcoin Cash crowd, I shall from here on after call the Bitcoin Cashers crooks. well said! will do the same. they are crooks. |
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Any thoughts on how high the next BCH rally will go? I'm thinking we might hit 0.8 temporarily, and then crash. I don't think we'll spike above 1.0 on the next wave. At this stage, I think anything over 0.4 is a good place to take profits.
Your shilling is starting to get naive. one must be desperate to publicly sink that low. |
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Why are you reacting so emotionally? You have held bitcoin for a long time, and so you would have equal coins on both the Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash chains. If Bitcoin evolves as peer-to-peer digital cash, with low fees and reliable confirmation, you win; if Bitcoin evolves as digital gold, with high fees and transaction friction, you win too.
I believe in the original vision for Bitcoin as described in the white paper: as a peer-to-peer electronic cash system. I am working to help shape bitcoin to that vision and will continue to do so.
Could I be wrong? Sure. Maybe it actually is good to have $20 fees (soon to be $50) and a network that can only process 3 transactions per seconds (one thousand times less than Visa).
And that is why I hold both BTC and BCH.
i react emotionally because YOU play games with my live savings. why the fuck aren´t you creating just another altcoin to realize your great vision? why tamper with bitcoin? if you are not happy with it, leave it. well, you sort of did, but you try to steal as much juice of it as possible, trying to hurt bitcoin as much as possible. now you expecting me to hug you for it? your game is called hijacking and it is evil. From my perspective, it is Blockstream/Core that are tampering with Bitcoin, by refusing the allow a much-needed capacity increase to reduce fees and allow for continued growth, and then by fundamentally changing the structure of the BTC coin by adding segwit. Bitcoin Cash represents the original vision for Bitcoin as peer-to-peer electronic cash. I will continue work to realize this vision, and help resist the hijack attempt by Blockstream and Core. from the perspective of a wrong-way driver it really looks like all the others are wrong. visions can and should compete. but playing foul/malicious games that will hurt peoples life savings is one big ego trip. where are your contributions towards bitcoin to address the problem you describe? didn't´t get merged? why? |
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wann war bcc hardfork? wollte noch gern was versenden, aber nicht drin fest stecken.
Komischerweise ist es ja sowieso so das heute FORK ist und keine einzige Börse stopt deposit und withdraw...
Wenn da mal nicht welche böse aufwachen
Bitcoin Cash ist zentralisiert, deswegen werden da Forks in einem kleinen Zirkel ausgeheckt und ansonsten gibt es kaum Diskussionen. Jedenfalls solange sich Roger Ver und Jihan Wu nicht zerstreiten. Die Ansammlung von Personen mit großen Ego birgt da denke ich noch einige Sprengkraft für Bitcoin Cash in der Zukunft. Calvin Ayre, John Mac Afee, Craig Wright, Brian Armstrong, Rick Falkvinge, Peter Rizun, Emin Gün Sirer, ... und der kleine Typ von ViaBtc, der immer seine aktuellen Gedanken in den Coinbases verewigt. gerade eben im wall-observer thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=178336.msg24530364#msg24530364 |
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so this is how you justify your malicious work? that people who keep your shitcoin will not get harmed? truth is that many that follow you will lose lots of funds.
disgusting.
Why are you reacting so emotionally? You have held bitcoin for a long time, and so you would have equal coins on both the Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash chains. If Bitcoin evolves as peer-to-peer digital cash, with low fees and reliable confirmation, you win; if Bitcoin evolves as digital gold, with high fees and transaction friction, you win too. I believe in the original vision for Bitcoin as described in the white paper: as a peer-to-peer electronic cash system. I am working to help shape bitcoin to that vision and will continue to do so. Could I be wrong? Sure. Maybe it actually is good to have $20 fees (soon to be $50) and a network that can only process 3 transactions per seconds (one thousand times less than Visa). And that is why I hold both BTC and BCH. i react emotionally because YOU play games with my live savings. why the fuck aren´t you creating just another altcoin to realize your great vision? why tamper with bitcoin? if you are not happy with it, leave it. well, you sort of did, but you try to steal as much juice of it as possible, trying to hurt bitcoin as much as possible. now you expecting me to hug you for it? your game is called hijacking and it is evil. |
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bcash folks not only spam the network. their EDA sucks away mining power from bitcoin. over the weekend bitcoin experienced a massive unprecedented 50% drop of hashrate. I am glad it is still working. their very own malicious EDA CREATES the btc transaction backlog (which they use as an argument versus: bitcoin. lol.) even Bloomberg writes about this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ktorpey/2017/11/13/how-bitcoin-cashs-higher-inflation-rate-is-harming-bitcoin/2/#2fa9abb9152bbch as a whole is an attack on bitcoin. it sucks on bitcoin, it tries to mislead people. we should not tolerate this at all. I hope some smart bitcoin dev comes up with a solution that makes miners switching back and forth between bitcoin and bcash impossible. fuck bcash. fuck it from deep of my heart. fuck its devs, fuck its miners, fuck its shills. fuck its CEOs. and finally: fuck its investors and buyers. now they have their own "bitcoin" to play around they still want to attack bitcoin. ugly fuckers suck. Two blockchains sharing the same proof-of-work results in very narrow stability margins for the combined system. It is unlikely that both Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash will survive long-term, unless one switches to a different PoW. yes, because you designed it to be that way. it did not happen by accident, didn't it? thank you for attacking bitcoin. unreal that you have the guts to even post here. |
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Is he a developer? He was in here shilling for BCH at 0.45!
He's a BU developer / promoter, and a centralization shill that wants to push 1 GB blocks onto the network. I guess NSA and Google will be the ones running nodes in Peter R's version of Bitcoin. ... yeah, calling himself a developer is a little generous. He's like the bizarro-world version of one of those guys who call themselves 'evangelists', except what is it called when you are shilling for Satan?... like Son-Of-Sam for BCH or something, his dark arts in pure charlatanry is pretty impressive. Thanks for the compliment. By the way, have you analyzed the new difficulty adjustment algorithm for Bitcoin Cash (live today) and the effect it may have on the migration of hash power between Core and Cash? Remember readers, if you hold Bitcoin Core and Bitcoin Cash in equal proportions, you can sit back and watch the whales battle it out. If you don't have inside information, you're at a significant disadvantage when trading. Bitcoin has a very bright future, as we bring peer-to-peer electronic cash to all of the world's population. so this is how you justify your malicious work? that people who keep your shitcoin will not get harmed? truth is that many that follow you will lose lots of funds. disgusting. |
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so you want to say that 6$ fee for a 40$ transaction is normal ? i'm shocked..
Ok dude... don't even go there. With everything that happened this weekend and the massive backlog created by Ver/Wu and their army of spammers, if you still wanna go there, then I'll just say go use BCH and GTFO troll. just answer the question and don't try avoid this blaming me for trolling because i'm not , I don't give a shit about bch If I was able to massively spam the BCH network right now and create such a backlog, they'd be seeing $6 transaction fees too. Now pls fk off, I don't have time to waste rehashing the same tired arguments from 3 years ago with yet another troll. If you want lower transaction fees, either wait for the backlog to clear and the mempool to empty. Otherwise look forward to LN. Or go use another crypto. Or whatever. Another troll to my list /ignore bcash folks not only spam the network. their EDA sucks away mining power from bitcoin. over the weekend bitcoin experienced a massive unprecedented 50% drop of hashrate. I am glad it is still working. their very own malicious EDA CREATES the btc transaction backlog (which they use as an argument versus: bitcoin. lol.) even Bloomberg writes about this: https://www.forbes.com/sites/ktorpey/2017/11/13/how-bitcoin-cashs-higher-inflation-rate-is-harming-bitcoin/2/#2fa9abb9152bbch as a whole is an attack on bitcoin. it sucks on bitcoin, it tries to mislead people. we should not tolerate this at all. I hope some smart bitcoin dev comes up with a solution that makes miners switching back and forth between bitcoin and bcash impossible. fuck bcash. fuck it from deep of my heart. fuck its devs, fuck its miners, fuck its shills. fuck its CEOs. and finally: fuck its investors and buyers. now they have their own "bitcoin" to play around they still want to attack bitcoin. ugly fuckers suck. |
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^^hyena is a chicken. it is after all what is said about hyenas: they are not brave.  |
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Still building a slow curve and a slow base. This rise is going to take a while guys. Its not going to be quite like the others, imho. I concur with that. Going back to to test BETI= 1.0 on this correction? you mean -1 ? |
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I told you motherfuckers Bitcoin Cash IS BITCOIN and you have all just been deceived into believing that a shitcoin token SegWitCoin was Bitcoin while actually it never was and it never will be. I was right. I put my money where my mouth is and it sure rewarded me well. Sold my segwitcoins 2 days ago.  congrats, mate! glad you did it. now you only need to sell your bitcointalk account also, and fuck off for good. good luck with your shitcoin. That was exactly what I had in mind until you made this post. Now I will not do it but instead I will hang around until the end of this forum just to smear it in your face how I was right and you were wrong.  you will be right. in the same way you were right with your "bitcoin-sub-$2000-by-august" prediction that you pulled out of your ass and weren´t brave enough to put some little money on a bet. when do you think bcash will be more worth than bitcoin? within a year? two years? want to bet?  |
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I told you motherfuckers Bitcoin Cash IS BITCOIN and you have all just been deceived into believing that a shitcoin token SegWitCoin was Bitcoin while actually it never was and it never will be. I was right. I put my money where my mouth is and it sure rewarded me well. Sold my segwitcoins 2 days ago. congrats, mate! glad you did it. now you only need to sell your bitcointalk account also, and fuck off for good. good luck with your shitcoin. |
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as long as no one quotes it, "ignore" should work fine. we all fall for allures. he will regret this later, I am sure.
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looks like we may be heading for deeper correction now.
its too early to tell, but many people increased BTC holding just for the fork and "free" b2x.
lets see what will happen, but its a bit overbought anyway.
angry big blockers with deep pockets sell now. very soon, they will be done. what a great day. |
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