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2941  Economy / Goods / Re: Bitcoin Banknotes on: August 09, 2012, 09:29:23 AM
The bot that took the bitcent is called MtGox. Grin
2942  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Looking for investor of 8.5 BTC on: August 09, 2012, 01:44:38 AM
sron is starting to sound suspiciously like highlevelminer/deathbylollipop Grin
2943  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Transferência internacional de valores e Bitcoin.....onde se encontram ?? on: August 08, 2012, 11:37:07 PM
O que é SEPA? to curioso!

Single EURO Payments Area.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Euro_Payments_Area

A maioria das transferencias SEPA de e para contas pessoais não tem custos. Contas de empresa, como a do Bitcoin-24 geralmente cobram uma pequena taxa(EUR 1.24), independentemente do valor da transferencia, mais por ser de um banco da Polonia, que não faz parte da zona Euro. De facto a taxa cobrada é de 5 PLN e não EUR Wink
2944  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Transferência internacional de valores e Bitcoin.....onde se encontram ?? on: August 08, 2012, 11:10:51 PM

Eu não sei pq vcs recomendam o MtGox quando eles são horriveis.
Usa o Bitcoin-24.com. Envia uma transferencia SEPA em EUR para eles(1.24 EUR), compra bitcoins(taxa de câmbio de 0%) e envia os bitcoins para o Brasil. Quem vender o BTC no Brasil apenas pagará as taxas do Mercado Bitcoin.
Não entendo pq as pessoas gostam de complicar coisas tão simples.

E, augusto, o MtGox apenas cobra 0.6% ao vender ou comprar Bitcoins, não 6%.


Oops!

Vou corrigir a taxa.

Bem, ate onde entedo o Bitcoin-24 apenas permite saques pelo SEPA. Voce ja enviou fundos por SEPA para o Bitcoin-24?



Enviar não enviei, mas já recebi. Por várias vezes. Estou agora mesmo esperando que completem mais uma transferencia SEPA para o meu banco.
O Bitcoin-24 permite saques(levantamento) por SEPA, Bitcoin, Skrill(Moneybookers) e Códigos do aurumxchange.
Tendo em conta que o silvio quer mesmo é Bitcoin, serve perfeitamente Wink
E depositos aceita SEPA, um sistema bancário alemão com um nome feio(lol), LIQPAY(cartão de crédito - USD), Bitcoin e códigos aurumexchange e MtGox em USD e EUR.

Ah, e não tem aqueles requerimentos de identificação horriveis que o MtGox tem, pelo menos por agora.
2945  Local / Português (Portuguese) / Re: Transferência internacional de valores e Bitcoin.....onde se encontram ?? on: August 08, 2012, 10:56:59 PM
Boa Tarde amigos,

Como newbiee total e tendo tomado conhecimento desta coisa chamada "Bitcoins", e necessitando de uma forma menos agressiva de transferência de valores entre a Itália e o Brasil, vim  aqui pra tentar ou conseguir tirar algumas dúvidas :

1) Onde consigo Bitcoins na Itália na Região de Verona ?
2) Como faria a transferência de tipo 500 Euros para uma pessoa física no Brasil ?
3) Como seria feita conversão pra Reais ??
4) Uma empresa na Itália poderia ter uma conta lá em Bitcoins ??
5) Muitos brasileiros prestam serviços a empresas fora do Brasil e são acharcados por Pay Pal, Bancos e etc..., a única taxa cobrada seria o 1,65 % do MB Huh
6) Posso receber em qualquer Banco, por exemplo, Agência Banco do Brasil de Miracema do Norte no Pará Huh

Outras perguntas e dúvidas virão a seguir,

Agradeço a quem puder ajudar

Silvio,

Se voce quer apenas enviar fundos para uma pessoa fisica no Brasil, eu recomendo evitar Bitcoins. O preco do Bitcoin esta acima da media no momento e a continua volatilidade pode desvalorizar o Bitcoin em menos de 24 horas. Alem disto, o processo para voce enviar os fundos em Bitcoins e ainda complexo para transferencias internacionais entre Italia e Brasil.

Eu fiz uma rapida pesquisa de precos:

Western Union:

Quote
Importo da inviare         EUR 500,00   
Commissione per trasferimento di denaro*         EUR 32,00   
Importo stimato totale         EUR 532,00

Valor aproximado final: 1249.95 Reais

http://www.westernunion.it/WUCOMWEB/staticMid.do?method=load&countryCode=IT&languageCode=it&pagename=HomePage

Moneygram:

Quote
nvia importo
490.20 EUR
Ricevi importo
587.52 USD
Commissione*
9.80 EUR
Costo totale
500.00 EUR

Valor aproximado final: 1188.083 Reais

https://www.moneygram.com/MGI/IT/IT/Market/Market.htm?CC=IT&LC=IT

Se voce tentar fazer a transferencia por Bitcoins, voce vai ter que primeiro enviar fundos para um cambio (provavelmente o Aurumexchange), o qual vai entao enviar os fundos para Mt.Gox. Ai voce vai comprar os Bitcoins. Uma vez com os Bitcoins voce vai ter que fazer uma transferencia para o Mercado Bitcoin. E entao voce vai comprar Reais e mandar para a conta de banco que voce desejar.

Revisando:

Aurumexchange - Taxa de 20 euros para enviar fundos para o Mt.Gox em Dolar
Mt.Gox - Taxa de 6% ao comprar Bitcoins
Bitcoin - Sem taxas
Mercado Bitcoin - Taxa de 1,65% + 0,60% para sacar em Reais

Valor aproximado final: 1143.73 Reais.



Eu não sei pq vcs recomendam o MtGox quando eles são horriveis.
Usa o Bitcoin-24.com. Envia uma transferencia SEPA em EUR para eles(1.24 EUR), compra bitcoins(taxa de câmbio de 0%) e envia os bitcoins para o Brasil. Quem vender o BTC no Brasil apenas pagará as taxas do Mercado Bitcoin.
Não entendo pq as pessoas gostam de complicar coisas tão simples.

E, augusto, o MtGox apenas cobra 0.6% ao vender ou comprar Bitcoins, não 6%.
2946  Economy / Goods / Re: Anonymous VISA Debit Card with Bank Account on: August 08, 2012, 10:06:00 PM
Currency it's EUR, but I have one available with USD currency too.

Bank it's WBK, a large Polish bank.

Withdrawal fee from ATM it's 2 EUR or 3 USD for the USD one.

Picture (I send the cards unopened): http://cl.ly/image/0O3Z271g2H0D

Any other question, feel free to ask Smiley
I don't think Visa Electrons work online.

Yes they do. 2checkout and Paypal have no problems accepting them Wink
2947  Economy / Goods / Re: Bitcoin Banknotes on: August 08, 2012, 10:03:56 PM
Go ahead, print and sell, if someone will pay for them, then great!  It's consistent with the DWTFYW license.

Ah! I can't think of a case which isn't consistent with it Wink
2948  Economy / Goods / Re: Bitcoin Banknotes on: August 08, 2012, 09:49:51 PM
So it means design is also open source? Then I will also start to print it out and sell worldwide...

I would like to commission the creation of some artwork to serve as a print-your-own Bitcoin banknote.  This is something I am willing to pay for (and I pay decently for things), but want to openly throw out what I'm looking for before actually negotiating a deal.

The design being public domain was one of the requirements Casascius gave if one wished to receive the reward.
It's public that the person who designed the note(not me, but a friend) received BTC13.46 for it.
You can find the PSD and SVG files to download here: http://ocantinhodadama.clinicadosom.com/2012/07/20/bitcoin-note-design-psd-file/
The license, as explained is a DWTFYW(Do What The Fuck You Want).

I'm using Adobe Fireworks, what tool are you referring to?
Follow the link posted by Gyrsur and you'll find the tool https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98971.0
Thanks, and also great work with the design!

You can congratulate the designer on the download page above if you wish to. It wasn't me but a friend of mine. I just posted it as her English is not the best.
Leave her a comment and maybe a link to this thread. I'm sure she'll be very happy. Smiley
2949  Economy / Goods / Re: Bitcoin Banknotes on: August 08, 2012, 09:33:07 PM

No it isn't.
The thread the OP linked to is the original thread. Wink

Casascius give the tool as open source so at least this should be mentioned...

You don't know if OP is using Casascius tool.
Looking at the samples Casascius posted and looking at the sample posted by the OP I would say he isn't using it. Ofcourse I may be mistaken, but I'm sure OP will tell us lol
EDIT: he already did

Casascius give the tool as open source so at least this should be mentioned...

such greedy individuals here! puhhh

I'm using Adobe Fireworks, what tool are you referring to?

Follow the link posted by Gyrsur and you'll find the tool https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=98971.0
2950  Economy / Lending / Re: Need 800BTC Loan payback in 2 weeks @ 15% on: August 08, 2012, 09:27:19 PM
Hey i'm trying to invest in some stuff please give me a 800BTC loan. I can't tell you what i'm doing with it or how i intend to pay it back. I'll have the 920 in 2 weeks, I promise.


Is this actually a serious request?

I can lend you that if you can PM me scan of your ID, driver license and picture with shoe head.

Thanks man, i'm joking though.
2951  Economy / Goods / Re: Bitcoin Banknotes on: August 08, 2012, 09:26:15 PM

No it isn't.
The thread the OP linked to is the original thread. Wink
2952  Other / Off-topic / Re: Sorry, y'all: Game Over. I'm about to buy all the bitcoin. on: August 08, 2012, 08:54:17 PM
If those scamming sites just got their grammar and spelling right for once people might actually fall for em...



The sad part is people actually do fall for it because their grammar/spelling isn't much better than the grammar/spelling at the site Grin
2953  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Kronos Development Update on: August 08, 2012, 08:42:04 PM
For the past month or so, kronos.io website has not loaded for me at all (just times out). And now zipconf.com wont load for me either as of today...

Tried obviously on different computers/browsers...this is happening for everyone else, correct?

Yup. Both dead. Like they're resolving to a non-responding server/IP.
2954  Economy / Auctions / Re: One Bitcoin for US Dollars from Paypal on: August 08, 2012, 06:59:40 PM
Good luck to all bidders.

Mike Jones was Atlas and is now banned lol
2955  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Admins should realize that we are not all Newbies on: August 08, 2012, 06:04:39 PM
Many of us non-newbies still see plenty of posts in the newbies forum because we scan the "show unread posts since last visit" button.

You should be able to ignore posts from a determined forum by admin request of its new board software.

You can already do that. SMF standard feature.
2956  Local / Mercato valute / Re: [VENDO] 20 BTC - Paypal 8,00 EUR on: August 08, 2012, 05:15:41 PM
ATTENZIONE ! E' un ladro !!


definitively scammer




Color me shocked... Roll Eyes
2957  Economy / Gambling / Re: Poker FreeRolls $.50 Every Hour on: August 08, 2012, 04:23:29 PM
btcontilt...where have you been?

I see you've got a new designer.  Slick.

Too bad your Windows only and without a web client.

I miss the old btcontilt...

 Cry

Works on ubuntu using wine. But it crashes if the window is maximized.
Registration on tournaments work but crashes when entering the table. Started using it on a XP virtual machine.
2958  Economy / Gambling / Re: Poker FreeRolls $.50 Every Hour on: August 08, 2012, 03:41:18 PM
Link? Would be useful, unless you want people to find your site using google.

I found it, but you have a error on the signup form.

    The AgreeWithTerms field is required.
    You must agree with terms and conditions

I checked the box, but it errors.
Only works on Chrome. Using Firefox you can't signup. It's not wise to leave 30% of internet users out Wink
2959  Economy / Lending / Re: Bryan Micon's List of BTC Ponzi Schemes that should not be listed as "Lending" on: August 08, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
2960  Local / Mercato valute / Re: [VENDO] 20 BTC - Paypal 8,00 EUR on: August 08, 2012, 02:36:11 PM
va bene, basta che mi compri tutto il blocco alla fine, quindi mi mandi 8 euro e 35 cent, ti mando un bitcoin, poi mi mandi 40,35 euro e io ti mando 5 bitcoin, poi mi mandi 112,35 cent e io ti mando 14 bitcoin, ok?

Doesn't work like that for 2 reasons.
1- I'm only interested on 10 BTC.
2- You send me 10 BTC, I send you €80 after 1 network confirmation (I pay Paypal fees on my side)
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