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Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: BTC transfers from TradeHill stopped?
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on: September 06, 2011, 08:44:36 PM
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What did their tech support say when you contacted them?
I tried to contact them at the irc channel #tradehill - but no answer. After your post here I wrote an email to them and this apparently worked. They blamed some 'manual verification' for big withdrawals. I don't know maybe I've got a bit too sensitive after mycoin (and bitomat) - but honestly over 12 hours of wait time makes th useless for my operations. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Economy / Trading Discussion / BTC transfers from TradeHill stopped?
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on: September 06, 2011, 07:15:31 PM
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My transfer from TradeHill since 12 hours is in state 'In Process', no indication at blockexplorer that they ever sent out the request. What does that mean? Their withdrawals page says it should be up to 12 hours - but I thought they were just very pessimistic about the confirmations - here they don't even broadcast the transfer request. Are they liquid?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY!
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on: August 22, 2011, 07:25:08 PM
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So it dropped a bit, despite that huge bid wall - S3052 - any comments? Overall your predictions were pretty good - but maybe in the wake of real news - like this conference disappointment - technical analysis is useless?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: 8/22/11 Speculation Thread
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on: August 22, 2011, 06:01:52 PM
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Plan: Get $110,000 Send to MtGox Place huge buy order Pray it doesn't get bought Profit? No - it involves a bit more complicated plan - and it could work, but actually it does not seem likely any more. And yet this is what happened. Anyone volunteers to explain the ' ' there for those left behind?
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Economy / Speculation / Re: 8/22/11 Speculation Thread
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on: August 22, 2011, 05:46:34 PM
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Plan: Get $110,000 Send to MtGox Place huge buy order Pray it doesn't get bought Profit? No - it involves a bit more complicated plan - and it could work, but actually it does not seem likely any more.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY!
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on: August 22, 2011, 03:07:40 PM
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The fundamentals of the technical chart patterns are strong, this is what I mean. (sorry for the potential confusion)
Aha - so the technical analysis shows up trend - but both google trends and alexa are down, forum stats are down (but that of course is easily maniuplated) - and all the conference reports are rather underwhelming (this might change - but i was expecting some tweets or blog posts to appear relatively quickly - so far it's all quiet). That 11.14 bid is strong - but it can still be a fake. Let's see - for now I am holding.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin value about to drop to...nothing..
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on: August 22, 2011, 12:12:03 PM
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Hmm - OK so you figured out that posting 'BUY BUY BUY' threads makes people suspicious and they do the opposite - so now you post 'sell sell sell' to make people buy (and give a good price for what you are selling)?
Or maybe you figured out we would figure that out - and you really want people to sell because you are buying?
Or ...
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Economy / Speculation / Re: wtf
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on: August 22, 2011, 11:29:34 AM
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Hmm - another one: 1412BTC sold for 6.6667GBP/BTC (about 11USD, google currently says: 10.9927216) at britcoin where the usual daily volume is less than a 100.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: RALLY!
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on: August 22, 2011, 07:30:38 AM
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There does not need to be new media coverage to push prices up.
The underlying market fundamentals are strong.
What do you mean by market fundamentals? The system is burning huge amounts of money with little profit.
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Economy / Speculation / Re: Google Trends 8/16/2011
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on: August 19, 2011, 05:45:13 AM
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Yeah - I've noticed the numbers as well and bought a bit. Many other people also use google trends as indicator - so the price goes up immediately, but there will be a few weeks of delay before the people who searched will buy bitcoins.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [reddit] The real cost of bitcoin? - Breaking Down the Math
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on: August 15, 2011, 03:41:21 PM
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One more thing to add. Consider these scenarios:
We have approx. 14 million coins left to mine.
1) If the price of bitcoin stayed at $10 tomorrow then by the time all bitcoins are mined we will have spent in the region of $140 million dollars on electricity.
2) If the price of bitcoin rose and held at $100 tomorrow as a collective group we would spend $1.4 billion dollars.
What is gained in the 2nd scenario? The security provided is surplus to requirements and cannot exist at that level when the 50 BTC block rewards stop. We are paying to distribute wealth but using that wealth in the process.
The need for security grows together with the overall market cap of the system which grows with the price of bitcoin - so this is actually a correct result, this additional security is needed even if the number of transactions stays the same. I've argued that if the system grows and has more transactions then probably the market cap will also grow - but this is not direct relation.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [reddit] The real cost of bitcoin? - Breaking Down the Math
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on: August 14, 2011, 06:42:29 AM
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Except I do not see why you would account for two separate companies together, unless you owned both of them, which would still be transferring money between two accounts you own.
The point is that if we compute the revenue of the bitcoin system as a whole - we treat humanity as the bitcoin owner also as a whole. The question is is bitcoin profitable for humanity? And to answer this we need to treat the humanity as it was one person. It is as if one person did something - like planting a seed - will that be profitable for him? You count on one side the work he puts into the endeavour, the cost of his tools etc. on the other hand you count the benefits he gets from the plant after it grows, the nutrition from the fruits. You don't count the fruits twice if when picking them he takes them from one hand to the other.
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Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [reddit] The real cost of bitcoin? - Breaking Down the Math
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on: August 14, 2011, 06:09:20 AM
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ZBY, what are you smoking, seriously. How does 1) Computers being profitable relate to whether or not you can hold Bitcoin purchases up to ethical standards as a product; 2) Money transferring from one human to another not qualify as spent? (Spent money only vanishes in video games, bro.) I don't mind existentialism in it's place, but I'm gonna stick with the dictionary on this one.
Ad 2. If you transfer $10 from one of your accounts to another one - do you count this as your revenue? Ad 1. - please expand on this I don't see how it relates to what I wrote. And please use meritoric arguments not these low ad. hominem attacks. *feeds ZBY some troll chows and scratches behind it's ear* Night bro. I take this that you do understand that transferring money between your own accounts does not count as revenue. Next step is to realize that if you count the revenue of two companies treated together - you also would not count the money transfers between them. Think more about the problem at hand and less about inventing this stupid troll accusations - just say - explain this or I don't get it here.
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