Flat Earth

[notbatman]

^^^ So what you're saying is that I have failed to provide evidence in the form of YouTube videos that objects can't be seen when they're too small to be seen. Thank you for your insightful analysis of my statement regarding convergence Bozo the fucking clown.



"With 4K monitors becoming more and more affordable, it appears that the long-standing reign of 1080p may finally be coming to a close. The question is: can the human eye actually see the difference with a 4K monitor or are manufacturers just using the hype to sell you a more expensive product? ..."

Read more @ https://www.techspot.com/article/1113-4k-monitor-see-difference/

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[Autumn_Rain]

So why does this thread still exist at all? 

[notbatman]

So why does this thread still exist at all? 

Because the Earth is flat and the globe is a massive fraud.

[Astargath]

^^^ So what you're saying is that I have failed to provide evidence in the form of YouTube videos that objects can't be seen when they're too small to be seen. Thank you for your insightful analysis of my statement regarding convergence Bozo the fucking clown.



"With 4K monitors becoming more and more affordable, it appears that the long-standing reign of 1080p may finally be coming to a close. The question is: can the human eye actually see the difference with a 4K monitor or are manufacturers just using the hype to sell you a more expensive product? ..."

Read more @ https://www.techspot.com/article/1113-4k-monitor-see-difference/

Thousands of videos of boats disappearing bottom first and the camera zooming in and the bottom is still hidden just as much. Being to small to be seen =/= disappearing bottom first while shrinking. I think you are confused mate.

[notbatman]

^^^ There's atmospheric refraction on top of perspective and convergence, you're just being a fucking idiot.

[odolvlobo]

^^^ There's atmospheric refraction on top of perspective and convergence, you're just being a fucking idiot.

As I wrote before, your understanding of the effect of refraction is backwards. Atmospheric refraction makes an object appear higher, and not lower as you suggest. A better explanation would be that a mirage obscures the bottom of the object.

[notbatman]

^^^ It's not fucking backwards, there's a mirage from refraction that forms a narrow mirror band over the horizon line called a fata morgana. There are multiple refractive effects at play here. Ships aren't going up, over and behind a nonexistent curve, everything you see is due to perspective, convergence and refraction on a plain, fog, smog, dust and other crap like nighttime not withstanding.

I can take pictures of a horizon 15 miles away with a camera 6 feet above sea level. That's so ridiculously far beyond the ~3 mile drop off that's physically required should we actually be on a globe, that no amount of "oh, but what about?" can save it. We can see too far, the Earth is flat.

[BADecker]

^^^ You are right about one thing. Ships aren't going up, over and behind the horizon. They are going down and around it with relation to the observer. You prove it by placing your eye, or the camera lens, right at the surface, and looking straight along the the tangent-line, tangent to the globe... 90 degrees from the center-line that goes through the center of the Earth.

Perspective isn't the thing that makes truth. Truth is truth. Perspective is how we observe that truth. In other words, the ship only appears to go up; it is a trick in observation that makes the ship appear to go up. What is this trick? It lies in the parts of the eye/camera/lens that are taking in a lot of extra "footage" besides the tangent line.

If the eye of the observer is at 6 feet high, the tangent line is at 6 feet above the surface of the earth. Only the part of the ship that is at 6 feet high is seen if we remain true to the tangent line. So, essentially, the 6-foot-high part of the ship is at the horizon already, even if the ship is directly in front of the observer. The part of the ship that is above the 6-foot tangent line is above the horizon. The part below the tangent line is below the horizon.

When the ship is right in front of you, why can you see the part of the ship that are below the horizon tangent line? Because the lens of your eye allows light from other levels than 6-feet to enter your eye. When this happens, you are caught up in an optical illusion that says that part of the ship is moving up (even if the ship is not moving at all), and that part of the ship - the part that is above the 6-foot tangent line - is moving down.

Your whole idea of how the horizon observation works is based on an optical illusion. What holds this optical illusion firm for you? An incomplete understanding of the aether. The aether is an orderly thing, that doesn't skew the perspective without skewing the observer in the same way. This makes perspective remain as it always has been in standard observation.

So, then why do you see (understand) things differently about this? It has to do with your mental/emotional perspective... not the physical perspective. For you it might be philosophy/religion. But it could be mental illness. While you still have some sanity left, you should voluntarily have yourself examined by several psychologists and psychiatrists... several, so that you get several second opinions.

[notbatman]

@SlavaGrove,

   Trying to prove the globe is why there are so many flat earthers today, there is no proof the Earth is a sphere or that it moves.



@BADecker,

   You're the one with a cognitive deficit, you have no fucking clue how optics works. Go hang yourself.

[BADecker]

@BADecker,

   You're the one with a cognitive deficit, you have no fucking clue how optics works. Go hang yourself.

Everybody has this simple knowledge of how optics work. The only reason they don't seem to is that they don't break down what is really happening. It's an easy mistake to fall into, and you have fallen into it... unless you are intentionally trying to mess people up.

However, I can't blame you for being upset. When you have your pet religion/philosophy dropping right out from under you, it feels like you hare losing your mind. If this wasn't so in your case, you would come up with clear answers to https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1009045.msg51044595#msg51044595. But you can't, because there aren't any contradictions to it that you can offer without showing that you really are skewed way off center.

[Astargath]

@SlavaGrove,

   Trying to prove the globe is why there are so many flat earthers today, there is no proof the Earth is a sphere or that it moves.



@BADecker,

   You're the one with a cognitive deficit, you have no fucking clue how optics works. Go hang yourself.

So that's how it works huh, simply tell someone that he has no clue about how optics work, well then, notbatman you have no fucking clue how optics work, did I win the argument now? You literally think no one except, 2 or 3 scientists who support your idiotic claims have any idea about optics, science, etc?

[odolvlobo]

^^^ It's not fucking backwards, there's a mirage from refraction that forms a narrow mirror band over the horizon line called a fata morgana. There are multiple refractive effects at play here. Ships aren't going up, over and behind a nonexistent curve, everything you see is due to perspective, convergence and refraction on a plain, fog, smog, dust and other crap like nighttime not withstanding.

I'm not saying that the earth is round or flat. I'm just saying that atmospheric refraction can't be an explanation of why the bottoms of distant objects are cut off by the horizon (because it has the opposite effect).

[notbatman]

@odolvlobo,

   Tell me Eisenstein, does the vehicle disappear bottom first or top first when entering the mirage (mirror zone)?


^{Source:
   Mirage in Death Valley -- https://youtu.be/S9CztTYuGqg}



Your pea-brain needs to grasp the concept that refraction has multiple effects, one effect is a mirror zone such as the narrow band mirage (fata morgana) that covers the horizon line. Another effect, an optical distortion (superior mirage) that causes a rise in the apparent elevation of objects in the entire field of view is a different phenomenon that is also attributed to refraction.


^{Source:
   Superior Mirage Time Lapse 8/7/2011 -- https://youtu.be/bifAV2tjJuw}

[BADecker]

^^^ What in the world? Didn't you see the movie, "Gravity," with Sandra Bullock and George Clooney? The Earth is definitely a globe.

And they did a lot better making it than your silly graphics.

[notbatman]

I think Sandra Bullock was born a man, a bullock is a male cow IIRC.

[BADecker]

^^^ Thank you. Your information about Sandra shows just how silly you are.

[odolvlobo]

  Tell me Eisenstein, does the vehicle disappear bottom first or top first when entering the mirage (mirror zone)?

Your pea-brain needs to grasp the concept that refraction has multiple effects, one effect is a mirror zone such as the narrow band mirage (fata morgana) that covers the horizon line. Another effect, an optical distortion (superior mirage) that causes a rise in the apparent elevation of objects in the entire field of view is a different phenomenon that is also attributed to refraction.

Ok, so you seem to know the terms better than I, but you also confirmed what I wrote. Neither "fata morgana" nor "superior mirage" explain why the bottoms of distant objects are blocked by the horizon.

Also, your picture of the sunset shows half of the sun being blocked by the horizon. The part of the sun near the horizon appears flattened. That is the result of atmospheric refraction. The little piece below it is a mirage ("fata morgana", I suppose). None of what you wrote explains how half of the sun is blocked by the horizon.

[notbatman]

^^^ I don't need to explain in detail how the object is being engulfed by the narrow band mirage (fata morgana) when I can show that it does in fact occur. You can see the car being obscured bottom up as it enters the mirror zone, it's not going up, over and behind the road, the road is fucking flat.

You faggots are all out of arguments for the globe, you need to concede the point or go hang yourselves.

^^^ Thank you. Your information about Sandra shows just how silly you are.

Actually it goes to show how far the Jews and their masonfag subordinates will go to trick you and fool you.

[Astargath]

@odolvlobo,

   Tell me Eisenstein, does the vehicle disappear bottom first or top first when entering the mirage (mirror zone)?


^{Source:
   Mirage in Death Valley -- https://youtu.be/S9CztTYuGqg}



Your pea-brain needs to grasp the concept that refraction has multiple effects, one effect is a mirror zone such as the narrow band mirage (fata morgana) that covers the horizon line. Another effect, an optical distortion (superior mirage) that causes a rise in the apparent elevation of objects in the entire field of view is a different phenomenon that is also attributed to refraction.


^{Source:
   Superior Mirage Time Lapse 8/7/2011 -- https://youtu.be/bifAV2tjJuw}

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7nUFLLUahSI

No mirage here and the boat still disappears bottom first as its shrinking.

[notbatman]

^^^ The ship becomes obscured by the mirror zone from the narrow band mirage covering the horizon. You should kill yourself for claiming there's no refraction at play. It doesn't matter if you're a brainwashed retard or paid shill, go fucking blow your brains out or tie a rope around your neck.

BTW you (or another shill/retard) posted this video already and I proved there's a narrow band mirage with the birds flying by. I'm not even going to waste my time digging up the old post. Just fuck off and die already.