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February 01, 2020, 09:17:41 AM
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Finally in regards to the force acting on the air molecules, we're not dealing with a solitary particle in an unbounded space. They push on each other and the wall of the chamber and the force pushing is electromagnetism; the molecules are 99.999% "empty space", only fields of force exist and interact.

Air molecules are mostly solitary. Other than gravity/buoyancy, they only interact and encounter forces when they collide with other molecules or the walls of the container. Note that I write "gravity/buoyancy" when I'm referring to the force that causes objects to fall and when being gravity or buoyancy doesn't change anything.

You're mistaken, the air molecules never actually touch each other or the wall of the chamber. Only fields of force exist and interact, this means there's no actual "physical" contact or collision. Because of the nature of electrostatic fields, the air molecules are always in communication with each other and the wall of the chamber via connected lines of force.


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This [electrostatics] is also why the Cavendish experiment is complete nonsense.
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February 01, 2020, 04:50:04 PM
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^^^ Once we get down to the microcosm of material far enough, we find that the aether is the force of everything. There is no material/energy/particles/waves/etc.. There is only force... the basis of the aether, and the basis of complexity.

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February 02, 2020, 03:02:50 AM
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You're mistaken, the air molecules never actually touch each other or the wall of the chamber. Only fields of force exist and interact, this means there's no actual "physical" contact or collision. Because of the nature of electrostatic fields, the air molecules are always in communication with each other and the wall of the chamber via connected lines of force.

Ok, fine. You are correct.

Now, I'm really more interested in the idea that air falls because it displaces aether. I think that you would support that idea, but you haven't stated one way or the other. You previously stated that objects fall in a vacuum because they displace aether. That implies that air would similarly fall in a vacuum unless air molecules are different in some way. Can't that explain how air could be next to a vacuum? After all, we observe that the air pressure drops as the height increases, and the pressure must be very close to 0 at the top of the dome over 3000 miles high.

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February 02, 2020, 03:57:40 AM
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As far as I understand, most people who agree with the flat earth hypothesis do not know and do not study what is beyond the boundaries of the dome and what processes are taking place there. I don't think that the Earth is exactly what we were told in childhood. But it seems to me that the theory of round earth is better, there is at least a desire for further, and not fixing only on the Earth itself.
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February 02, 2020, 04:08:18 AM
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@odolvlobo,

   There's a point where the macroscopic concept of displacement gives way to fields of force on the smaller scale. The fields of force are essentially fluid mechanics, the aether can in general be treated as a super-fine gas. Magnetic fields i.e. curl(A) where A is the vector potential, can be seen with paper, some iron filings and, a magnet; an aetheric gas field whirled into looping circuits like smoke rings.

So when I give "displacement of aether" as an explanation of why any object in a vacuum chamber is stuck to the bottom if gravity doesn't real, I'm giving a "general" explanation. The more technical explanation lies in understanding the extremely complex network of electromagnetic field lines surrounding the object and the forces involved therein.

The few lone gas molecules in the vacuum chamber are going nuts, if they're closer to the bottom on average I'd like to see evidence for that.
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February 02, 2020, 05:24:29 AM
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February 02, 2020, 10:36:52 AM
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February 02, 2020, 08:39:25 PM
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I have asked the question so many times.
Why isn't the FE society, with hundreds of thousands of fanatics don't send one of their top chefs through an astronaut training camp and fly him/her up on the ISS.

It would also be easy to come up with a recording device (camera), which is temper proof.
To take photos and video of the earth from there  (just in case the nut jobs on earth claim that their top leader got brainwashed by NASA while beeing on the ISS).
Like an old-school analogic camera in a radiation-proof/shockproof/tamperproof casing.
That would be opened on earth by FE and RE people.

Just raise the funds and go up.

PS : atmospherique baloons don't count.

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February 03, 2020, 06:22:56 AM
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So when I give "displacement of aether" as an explanation of why any object in a vacuum chamber is stuck to the bottom if gravity doesn't real, I'm giving a "general" explanation. The more technical explanation lies in understanding the extremely complex network of electromagnetic field lines surrounding the object and the forces involved therein.

Well, I would love to see the more technical explanation! How do I find it?

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February 03, 2020, 02:16:21 PM
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I have asked the question so many times.
Why isn't the FE society, with hundreds of thousands of fanatics don't send one of their top chefs through an astronaut training camp and fly him/her up on the ISS.

It would also be easy to come up with a recording device (camera), which is temper proof.
To take photos and video of the earth from there  (just in case the nut jobs on earth claim that their top leader got brainwashed by NASA while beeing on the ISS).
Like an old-school analogic camera in a radiation-proof/shockproof/tamperproof casing.
That would be opened on earth by FE and RE people.

Just raise the funds and go up.

PS : atmospherique baloons don't count.

Don't think they'd want to do such thing, although even if someone from FE community would do it and tell everyone else "look the earth is round, it's not flat!" - they would reject him and say "oh boi, he's one of them" instead of believing him. Those people are rejecting the fundamental basics of physics, and even though lots of them are smart people, i wouldn't expect from them to change their beliefs, especially when they are having fun - they have their own community, they can talk about it, socialize, cult it etc.
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February 03, 2020, 04:00:55 PM
Last edit: February 03, 2020, 09:19:01 PM by notbatman
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@odolvlobo "A treatise on electricity and magnetism, by James Clerk Maxwell."

I have asked the question so many times.
Why isn't the FE society, with hundreds of thousands of fanatics don't send one of their top chefs through an astronaut training camp and fly him/her up on the ISS.

It would also be easy to come up with a recording device (camera), which is temper proof.
To take photos and video of the earth from there  (just in case the nut jobs on earth claim that their top leader got brainwashed by NASA while beeing on the ISS).
Like an old-school analogic camera in a radiation-proof/shockproof/tamperproof casing.
That would be opened on earth by FE and RE people.

Just raise the funds and go up.

PS : atmospherique baloons don't count.

Don't think they'd want to do such thing, although even if someone from FE community would do it and tell everyone else "look the earth is round, it's not flat!" - they would reject him and say "oh boi, he's one of them" instead of believing him. Those people are rejecting the fundamental basics of physics, and even though lots of them are smart people, i wouldn't expect from them to change their beliefs, especially when they are having fun - they have their own community, they can talk about it, socialize, cult it etc.

You guys are delusional because NASA is a propaganda agency, there is no "astronaut training camp" you halfwit morons. There are no university or college courses to become an astronaut, outer space is a hoax.

Globalism is the cult, so fuck off with your bullshit! In fact don't come back until you can spell "atmospheric balloons" correctly.



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February 03, 2020, 06:50:38 PM
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You guys are delusional because NASA is a propaganda agency, there is no "astronaut training camp" you halfwit morons. There are no university or collage courses to become an astronaut, outer space is a hoax.
Globalism is the cult, so fuck off with your bullshit! In fact don't come back until you can spell "atmospheric balloons" correctly.

Oh well,
I'm sorry I made a mistake spelling "atmospheric balloons", I've never been in one. And this is also what happens when you speak 3 languages and English isn't the mother tongue.

But seeing how you spelled college, I assume you never attended one either  Grin

You have no argumentation, attacking people on the form instead of the debunking ideas.

Are you telling us that The MUERICAINS, the Russians, The Europeans and now the Chinese are all part of this cult that pretends they send people in space just to keep the dream going?
How delusional you are.

And obviously I knew that there isn't any camp/college/university as per se.
But you are not going to send Kim dot Com on ISS, it has to be someone fitter.


So again, have a member board a shuttle, make photos and then you will see the truth (or prove us all wrong)


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February 03, 2020, 09:31:15 PM
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^^^ It's [outer space] all nonsense, the globalists are international in nature so it's no wonder there's a space agency set up in all major countries. All these politicians and leaders are in bed together, sometimes literally as the Masons, Jews, Jesuits and the rest of the conspiracy cabal are mostly promiscuous homosexuals.

The space shuttle, a zero-g airplane rigged up as a flying Hollywood film studio has been retired for many years. Today the ISS is faked with Chroma Key CGI technology and actors hanging from wires.

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February 04, 2020, 07:06:58 AM
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@odolvlobo "A treatise on electricity and magnetism, by James Clerk Maxwell."

Thanks for nothing. There is no mention of the displacement of aether by anything.

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February 04, 2020, 11:18:53 AM
Last edit: February 04, 2020, 04:36:58 PM by notbatman
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^^^ I'm sorry but you're an idiot, now you're going to cry because Maxwell above your IQ level and you can't see how it relates to your question?

You asked for a technical explanation and you got it. It took me many weeks to read and understand that shit, I had to read them several times over. You didn't have time to read any of it.

Displacement of aether as I stated before is a macroscopic explanation for why objects fall in a vacuum, however electromagnetic forces are behind this phenomenon. If you want to understand the concept of aether and the forces at play Maxwell's calculus goes into details but, this is not a physics textbook for pre-schoolers that describes why shit falls.

You keep asking about aether displacement and I keep telling you about electromagnetic forces, I'm not avoiding the question I'm explaining what I understand is going on, capiche?



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There's a few things I should mention, for one there's original copies of the treatise available. Any copies linked from Google or academia will be censored versions. Also the equations touted as "Maxwell's Equations" by academia are not from Maxwell, these equations are crippled versions of his original quaternions.

Second, the aether can be regarded as a superfine gas however, it's what matter is made of. Let me explain with an analogy:

Say we have air, water, a whirlpool and a boat. We can talk about buoyancy with the boat displacing the water or the water displacing the air but, what does the whirlpool displace? It displaces the water creating a funnel shaped void of air and, it's made of water, and water is flowing through it.

Do you see the difficulty in describing the whirlpool using buoyancy and the displacement of water? You need to use fluid dynamics to describe it properly. Maxwell's original equations are all based on fluid flow mechanics.
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February 04, 2020, 07:35:54 PM
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Hey Batty, did you by any chance suffer an EMP when you were a baby?

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February 04, 2020, 07:59:11 PM
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2) The horizon always rises to the eye level of the observer as altitude is gained, so you never have to look down to see it. If Earth were in fact a globe, no matter how large, as you ascended the horizon would stay fixed and the observer / camera would have to tilt looking down further and further to see it.

Deceptive speaking^^. If the earth were flat, anybody looking straight ahead, parallel to the earth, would never see the horizon in his line of sight. His line of sight would always remain at the same height above the horizon as his eye/camera was above the ground.

The only time the horizon would rise to meet his eye would be if the earth were curved upward, like on the inside of a hollow earth. But then it wouldn't be a horizon. It would only be the ground.

So we see that this point doesn't have anything to do with proving FE or GE.

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February 05, 2020, 11:06:05 AM
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^^^ Dubay (the author of that quote) is correct and you're an complete idiot, here's why:

   The horizon (apparent) is created by the angular size limit of the eye or camera, this physical limit is the result of the aperture size and wavelength(s) of light. As objects recede into the distance they get smaller to a vanishing point (the size limit), the distance to this point is defined by the eye. The result of all objects in the field of view converging to a point is a vanishing line a.k.a. the horizon line.

The globe model's geometric horizon (physical) is complete nonsense and doesn't exist, this can be confirmed by the individual with modern optics such as the Nikon P900. The apparent horizon is an established part of science and has been a known optical effect for a long time.



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   Yanoff, Myron; Duker, Jay S. (2009). Ophthalmology 3rd Edition. MOSBY Elsevier. ISBN 978-0444511416.

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   Nikon P900 Distance to the Horizon Test -- https://youtu.be/U7GIW0vJcic
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^^^ Dubay (the author of that quote) is correct and you're an complete idiot, here's why:

   The horizon (apparent) is created by the angular size limit of the eye or camera, this physical limit is the result of the aperture size and wavelength(s) of light. As objects recede into the distance they get smaller to a vanishing point (the size limit), the distance to this point is defined by the eye. The result of all objects in the field of view converging to a point is a vanishing line a.k.a. the horizon line.

The globe model's geometric horizon (physical) is complete nonsense and doesn't exist, this can be confirmed by the individual with modern optics such as the Nikon P900. The apparent horizon is an established part of science and has been a known optical effect for a long time.



Reference:

   Yanoff, Myron; Duker, Jay S. (2009). Ophthalmology 3rd Edition. MOSBY Elsevier. ISBN 978-0444511416.

Documentation:

   Nikon P900 Distance to the Horizon Test -- https://youtu.be/U7GIW0vJcic

You are quite good at directing us away from what is being talked about. But here is the answer.

Let's say that your eye is 6 feet above the ground. And let's say it is focused perfectly parallel to the ground. On a flat earth, all you have to do is follow the line of sight. Walk, if you must. Walk for miles and miles, perfectly parallel to the FE, in the line of sight. Walk for another couple of days. Walk 10,000 miles on the FE, always keeping to the eye height, which the eye is using... the 6 feet.

Let's say you only walked to the horizon that the eye sees. The eye is simply too weak and unable to distinguish you from other objects on the horizon... we're talking FE here. But the straight line that the eye is following is still 6 feet above the FE ground.

If your focus is on the fact that the eye has its limits, great. But the horizon never rises to meet the eye no matter where the horizon is... except in one place. Where is the one place that the horizon rises to meet the eye on a FE? In the mind of the observer. Camera, the same.

I don't really want to tell you what to do or say. But why not say what is factual? Your FE is a lie, but worse than that, the ways you try to explain it are a complete sham and deception. Why? Because everything you say doesn't have anything to do with FE or GE. You simply play on the standard thinking of people in ways that make them THINK that you are talking about the shape of the earth.

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February 06, 2020, 07:01:07 PM
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We should start a charity fund to send notbatman to the Moon once SpaceX opens up the first seats for public travel. Cool
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