Martin Armstrong Discussion

[tabnloz]

Why are we surprised?

Do we really think that human nature ever changes. They burned people at the stake even in the good ole' USA for their religious beliefs.

People somehow are aghast that what happened 100 years ago is happening again, as if cycles don't repeat.

http://history.stackexchange.com/questions/33909/did-people-in-china-resort-to-cannibalism-during-the-reign-of-mao

true, the romans and greeks were known to take young boys as lovers.

the sacrifice part, if indeed that is happening, would not seem to be part of *modern human nature, especially children. but we do have a history of sacrifice (incan, mayan etc). it would be interesting to know where that belief came from. it may be the common found belief that the world was previously destroyed because the people had made the gods unhappy with their behaviour.

the cannibalism was 'resorted to', not done for pleasure, however case could be made that if the going doctrine was to do 'xyz' for whatever reason, we humans can easily get it done. When it is an act committed against another group all it really takes it to sufficiently demonize or think of others as sub-human - then regular people can do awful things (eg in war or as mass murderers can).

edit: modern

[iamnotback]

Rothschilds getting exactly what he has wanted and planned out:

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/hillary-tells-supporters-to-effectively-revolt-against-trump/

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/north_america/2016-u-s-presidential-election/the-rising-civil-unrest-in-america-is-highly-dangerous-for-the-future/

[Thenoticer]

Hillary Clinton in her first public speech since losing the election at the Washington gala for the Children’s Defense Fund,

Oh the irony. Clinton who has surrounded herself with pedos speaks at a childrens defense fund. I hope her team didn't rape any kids while there.

And twitter needs desperately to be replaced and its ceo's need to be taken into the street and beaten.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5e3nrs/anonymous_twitter_allows_pedophile_accounts/

I mean really, they ban trump people and allow pedo and isis people. Wtf

[tabnloz]

Hillary Clinton in her first public speech since losing the election at the Washington gala for the Children’s Defense Fund,

Oh the irony. Clinton who has surrounded herself with pedos speaks at a childrens defense fund. I hope her team didn't rape any kids while there.

And twitter needs desperately to be replaced and its ceo's need to be taken into the street and beaten.

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/5e3nrs/anonymous_twitter_allows_pedophile_accounts/

I mean really, they ban trump people and allow pedo and isis people. Wtf

I get most of my news via Twitter and generally lean left, but completely disagree with them banning the so called alt-right accounts. Usually the people with opposite views to you have legit points to make & its beneficial to take them in.

Separate from this other stuff mentioned (mostly circumstantial albeit very weird) I think you have to take the trolling aspect with a grain of salt and power down once in a while.

And just read the NYT article on Comet Pizza - rather dismissive and hard to air the allegations & evidence thrown up on chan due to legal.

[tabnloz]

Money, especially from emerging markets, leaving bonds and heading into US equities.

Where have I heard that premise before?

http://www.businessinsider.com.au/deutsche-bank-note-on-bond-fund-outflows-2016-11?r=US&IR=T

[iamnotback]

Rothschilds + Rockefeller are running the show:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/22/donald-trump-paris-climate-deal-change-open-mind

Human caused climate change is ABSOLUTELY impossible. Human caused environmental degradation happens often, but environment is not climate.

Even a nuclear winter would not be a permanent climate change. After some years or decades, the earth would resume the climate that is dictated and controlled by the Sun and the internal heat of the Earth.

We are just but little specks of dust crawling on the surface of the earth and have no where near enough impact to the thermodynamics to have any meaningful impact on the climate.

[btcbug]

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Let me go ahead and drop the Hottest Potato in the World now.  I don't think Armstrong, Zero Hedge, Breitbart or anyone prominent will touch this.  Look into it, and you will see why...

PizzaGate

^---  The scandal of the millennium?  The biggest scandal of all time?

I'll let you all do your own checking, as I have NO IDEA if any of this is true or not.  If just 1% is true, then this very, very bad...

Wikileaks (Podesta emails) kicked this off when various noticed the pedophilia-seeming comments re "pizza", "hotdog", "map", "Spirit Cooking", "handkerchief", etc.

Google terms to get you started:

"Comet Ping Pong Pizza, Washington, DC"
"Disturbing, Art, Tony Podesta"
"Child trafficking, Epstein, Clinton, parties"
"wikileaks.org, podesta emails, emailid/32795"

Warning: very disgusting stuff has already been unearthed.  Ugh if true.

Been following this for a bit. There is a lot of weird shit going on. Just some of the pics this guy posted on his personal and business Instagram accounts are just disturbing. Here is a whole dump somebody did, complete with Internet archives of his Instagram accounts. There's nothing illegal in these posts, but just super weird.

http://pastebin.com/G6WKE5it

[tabnloz]

Rothschilds + Rockefeller are running the show:

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/22/donald-trump-paris-climate-deal-change-open-mind

Human caused climate change is ABSOLUTELY impossible. Human caused environmental degradation happens often, but environment is not climate.

Even a nuclear winter would not be a permanent climate change. After some years or decades, the earth would resume the climate that is dictated and controlled by the Sun and the internal heat of the Earth.

We are just but little specks of dust crawling on the surface of the earth and have no where near enough impact to the thermodynamics to have any meaningful impact on the climate.

I mostly agree. After watching An Inconvenient Truth I was worried. But now not as much. Just looking at history tells me there is way more to it than just human caused change. I am in the camp of I believe human activity is part of the issue but overall, like iamnotback says, we cant change the earth permanently, just some of the environs in which we reside. Here are some things to consider.

- no one knows with certainty what causes ice ages
- post 'little ice age' glaciers began to retreat (mid 1800's) and in most cases are continuing. Before industrialisation.
- the era known as the 'climatic optimum' (9000-6000 yrs ago iirc) had higher temps than now and coincided with booms in human civilisation. Canada had tree lines way higher than today for eg.
- the era known as the Younger Dryas had way more climate volatility, including temp changes between 7-14d in perhaps as little as a decade
- this YD period approx 13k - 10k yrs ago also saw a 400ft rise in sea levels. (many many implications here)
- 13k-10k yrs ago was like a nuclear winter; rapid drop in temps and return to ice age conditions after warming from glacial maximum of approx 18k yrs ago. For more info google 'black mat archaeology'
-the YD co-incided with the extinction of 75% of Nth American megafauna, similar in Europe. Least affected was Africa (where megafauna still exists). Human culture was also effectively wiped out - many traces found below black mat, way less above.
- going back 5-600k yrs there is a gentle oscillation of temps moving from -2 to +2 over long periods, interrupted by massive spikes and drops.
- we are now in an extended period of calm; since the end of the YD period we have reached a permanently high temp plateau.
- we don't understand climate cycles very well

This time period is a rather new field of study. I think the most interesting thing today and massive implications for history, religion and our understanding of humanity. Definitely red pill stuff.

[tabnloz]

Even a nuclear winter would not be a permanent climate change. After some years or decades, the earth would resume the climate that is dictated and controlled by the Sun and the internal heat of the Earth.

We are just but little specks of dust crawling on the surface of the earth

You are on the right track. We can't change it too much, but these massive changes do happen (not permanently however)

A number of people had proposed rapid ice sheet melting as the reason for 400ft rise during the Younger Dryas (a long long nuclear winter co-incided with this).

But, they had no source of heat to account for it. They were shouted down and ridiculed by the gradualists and uniformitarians. That is only because they couldn't find a terrestrial source......Earth is but a speck of dust in the universe, and that is the clue that science is now beginning to come around to.

This ties is with ancient mythology and symbolism. long story short; there is a reason why we have global myths from ancient times. they were very very smart.

[iamnotback]

Dollar up, gold down.

Who didn't hear me (and Armstrong) incessantly when gold peaked at $1362?

Gold today $1188.

On the way to $1050. Then possibly $850. We'll have a bottom eventually and then 2018ish or so gold can shine again.

[deisik]

Dollar up, gold down.

Who didn't hear me (and Armstrong) incessantly when gold peaked at $1368?

Gold today $1188.

On the way to $1050. Then possibly $850. We'll have a bottom eventually and then 2018ish or so gold can shine again.

As you already know, I am also waiting for gold to bottom at $1,050 (last time it almost got there). Though it can hardly crash below the $1,000 mark (if only for a very brief period of time) due to the huge demand for physical gold after it goes below $1,050. Many gold bugs will start pouring their bucks into gold even before it gets to $1,000 for the fear of missing the bandwagon and being too late to the party. That's what basically happened last time when gold went below $1,100 in 2015...

And you don't need a supercomputer and Martin Armstrong chained to it to predict that

[freshman777]

Dollar up, gold down.

Who didn't hear me (and Armstrong) incessantly when gold peaked at $1368?

Gold today $1188.

On the way to $1050. Then possibly $850. We'll have a bottom eventually and then 2018ish or so gold can shine again.

Correction: prices of paper promises of gold backed by nothing are down. Not gold, the metal, at retail stores.

[iamnotback]

Dollar up, gold down.

Who didn't hear me (and Armstrong) incessantly when gold peaked at $1362?

Gold today $1188.

On the way to $1050. Then possibly $850. We'll have a bottom eventually and then 2018ish or so gold can shine again.

Correction: prices of paper promises of gold backed by nothing are down. Not gold, the metal, at retail stores.

Correction of your incorrection, I already rebutted that illogic upthread. Why you repeat your same error is beyond me.

You can either buy Comex bars at spot then trade them for bullion later when the price rises, or you can buy a paper contract and then trade for bullion when it rises.

You tinfoil hats are so funny.

[iamnotback]

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Just imagine how you would trade your gold for a loaf of bread in a collapse scenario... You'd have to have a tiny fraction of a gold bar to be able to do that - whilst it is easy-as with cryptocurrencies like BTC.

I don't think that the divisibility issue would last very long in a collapse scenario.  Basically any convenient item would take over the 'exchange' role and be priced against the 'backing store' naturally by market forces.  Gold would be the most likely 'backing store' in a situation where crypto were not sufficiently developed to work off-grid and/or under successful attack (technical and/or legal and/or sociological, etc.)

A backing store requires a deep liquid market maker. This can't exist when everyone is willing to kill him and take his gold.

In the MadMax scenario everything reverts to chaos and warlords. Money can't develop. That is why food becomes money. Sorry.

[freshman777]

Dollar up, gold down.

Who didn't hear me (and Armstrong) incessantly when gold peaked at $1368?

Gold today $1188.

On the way to $1050. Then possibly $850. We'll have a bottom eventually and then 2018ish or so gold can shine again.

Correction: prices of paper promises of gold backed by nothing are down. Not gold, the metal, at retail stores.

Correction of your incorrection, I already rebutted that illogic upthread. Why you repeat your same error is beyond me.

You can either buy Comex bars at spot then trade them for bullion later when the price rises, or you can buy a paper contract and then trade for bullion when it rises.

You tinfoil hats are so funny.

No, you did not. In your imagination maybe.

At Comex they sell gold contracts backed at 1:100. If 2 out of 100 people ask for delivery, poof, Comex has a provision to settle them in cash. When the price rises, you can't swap these contracts for bullion unless you're one of the 1% with connections.

[iamnotback]

No, you did not. In your imagination maybe.

At Comex they sell gold contracts backed at 1:100. If 2 out of 100 people ask for delivery, poof, Comex has a provision to settle them in cash. When the price rises, you can't swap these contracts for bullion unless you're one of the 1% with connections.

I can buy Comex bars near spot at FidelityTrade. Was doing during the 2008/2009 price collapse.

[iamnotback]

I read Trump ....

is appointing Myron Bell of CEI as the head of the EPA.

Ebell looks a fantastic choice at first glance.  Strong property rights advocate which is in direct opposition to 'collectivists' who are milking the 'environmental issues' arguments to further their goals.  Offsets the sec-education choice which, when scratching the surface, seems abysmal.

If this Ebell guy doesn't pour ice-water on the whole climate change pseudo-science it will add a lot of weight to my hypothesis that one of the driving forces behind the scam is an excuse to do wide scale weather modification.  I don't trust that Trump and his minions would be anything but delighted to have and control this capability.

[sidhujag]

No, you did not. In your imagination maybe.

At Comex they sell gold contracts backed at 1:100. If 2 out of 100 people ask for delivery, poof, Comex has a provision to settle them in cash. When the price rises, you can't swap these contracts for bullion unless you're one of the 1% with connections.

I can buy Comex bars near spot at FidelityTrade. Was doing during the 2008/2009 price collapse.

Actually he is right.. you have to specify physical delivery upfront because most of the volume is from trading and front running all of the physical orders... only little bit of it is for delivery and thus if you dont specify upfront you cannot take delivery.. as far as cboe i called and talked to a floor manager about this when i was enquiring about taking delivery of lumber futures

[freshman777]

No, you did not. In your imagination maybe.

At Comex they sell gold contracts backed at 1:100. If 2 out of 100 people ask for delivery, poof, Comex has a provision to settle them in cash. When the price rises, you can't swap these contracts for bullion unless you're one of the 1% with connections.

I can buy Comex bars near spot at FidelityTrade. Was doing during the 2008/2009 price collapse.

There weren't just 100 people buying, so you buying them didn't make a difference. 2 out of 100 is not about people, it's about ratio of delivered to what they keep in warehouses. They could deliver 1 of 100 sold contracts, they would have to settle in cash if 2 of 100 sold contracts were asked to be delivered.

[iamnotback]

Here is the 90% tax coming on your gold:

The hunt for money is intensifying with the aid of banks no less. India was the balloon. They simply canceled the current with no notice and imposed a 90% tax on anyone holding the high denomination notes. This is how the world governments operate. The first bail-in was done in Cyprus.

I warned about this years ago:

http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article20327.html