Up Like Trump

[Wilikon]

 

[Racey]

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Looks very picturesque down in Mexico, I suppose you could make a good living from those waste pipes.

[RoomBot]

Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  I still am though I now feel that as bad as President Cheney and his little puppet were, had it not happened we very well may not have a country at all today.

It is to my deep humiliation that I have to admit thinking that Gore 'would have been one of our better presidents.'  I was a fool for going so long not taking the time to explore the whole 'new world order' thing as a viable hypothesis.  Like so many others on the Left, I defered on the basis that it was 'some right-wing conspiricy theory' and thus probably a waste of time.  When I finally did I found the hypothesis to have vast explanitory and predictive power.  A related and refined branch of the general NWO hypothesis concerns 'Technocracy.'  When I dived into that subject I found it a really a tight fit.

Do you remember how hard it was to differentiate gore's to bush's policies during the debates? I do.


 

Nope.  Not at all.

Gore spoke about & published "An Inconvenient Truth" about climate change & the Neo-Cons like Cheney laughed him out of office.   

[Wilikon]

[tvbcof]

Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  I still am though I now feel that as bad as President Cheney and his little puppet were, had it not happened we very well may not have a country at all today.

It is to my deep humiliation that I have to admit thinking that Gore 'would have been one of our better presidents.'  I was a fool for going so long not taking the time to explore the whole 'new world order' thing as a viable hypothesis.  Like so many others on the Left, I defered on the basis that it was 'some right-wing conspiricy theory' and thus probably a waste of time.  When I finally did I found the hypothesis to have vast explanitory and predictive power.  A related and refined branch of the general NWO hypothesis concerns 'Technocracy.'  When I dived into that subject I found it a really a tight fit.

Do you remember how hard it was to differentiate gore's to bush's policies during the debates? I do.

Nope.  Not at all.

Gore spoke about & published "An Inconvenient Truth" about climate change & the Neo-Cons like Cheney laughed him out of office.   

The way I remember things, Gore didn't get serious with his climate scammery until after he was robbed for the presidency.

The main diff between the Gore types and the Cheney types is how many cycles before we had one-world govt.  Clinton(both)/Gore/Obama seem to be ready for it yesterday.  Cheney et-al in their PNAC paper were arguing that the U.S. could have another hundred years of uni-polar dominence after which a one-world govt would likely be unavoidable.  That is to say, the 'New American Century' was the last window where anyone could pull off such a thing.

My best hope for Trump is that he is on the side of those of us who believe that a one-world govt is extraordinarily risky, simply not necessary at all, and that a multi-polar world where friendly competition is the norm is possible and perpetually sustainable and provides the best results for the highest number of ordinary people.  And a much more interesting and durable world to boot.

[Karartma1]

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Looks very picturesque down in Mexico, I suppose you could make a good living from those waste pipes.

It depends on what comes out from there. Surely that'll never be pure still water.

Talking about Trump the other day with a good friend of mine we shared this image: we thought of The Wall (Pink Floyd) and everything in there starting making sense more and more.

And to quote something else:

These boots are made for walkin'
And that's just what they'll do
One of these days these boots are
Gonna walk all over you

[TommyBitcoin]

You think draft-dodging donald is the answer or the problem?

Chicken donald will end up being worse than dubya.

Hillbill doesn't seem much better.

Anyone voting for the libertarian party?

[Spendulus]

Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....

It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]

[BADecker]

Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....

It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]

The only reason Bush won was that votes are private and anonymous. If Gore could have introduced even one person to the Supreme Court who could have assured the Court that such and such a vote was his, the whole thing would have had to have been done over. Gore simply wasn't clever enough to find one good liar who would acknowledge one vote as his own.

[vokain]

You think draft-dodging donald is the answer or the problem?

Chicken donald will end up being worse than dubya.

Hillbill doesn't seem much better.

Anyone voting for the libertarian party?

I voted for Gary Johnson in the first election I could participate in, but I was young and naive then, coming fresh off the (modern) liberal hoopla boat, still harboring enthusiasm for the impractical. This time, I'm still rather agorist, but I came to see that maybe I can get that, but I have to work in baby steps getting there, and Trump has a greater-than-decent chance, more than most anyone else as evidenced by his effecting so far in American politics and society, at being a great transitional leader towards this aim of mine (freedom).

[Karartma1]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China

[Wilikon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8qo3h50OHc



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVH68ysyIv0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YPFGRkI4XQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZWJAlwGALQ

China is not addicted to power...
 

[Karartma1]

Thanks for the videos but of course the financial and the militar sides are well connected.
Don't misunderstand me but China is doing what the USA are doing since they started living. Why are they not allowed to do that?

I know China is playing with fire but this is politics, unfortunately.

The following is a reference only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

[Wilikon]

Thanks for the videos but of course the financial and the militar sides are well connected.
Don't misunderstand me but China is doing what the USA are doing since they started living. Why are they not allowed to do that?

I know China is playing with fire but this is politics, unfortunately.

The following is a reference only
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wars_involving_the_United_States

Is this map describing "politics as usual"?

[bryant.coleman]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDrfE9I8_hs

He is really addicted to China! Is he afraid of China buying loads of gold, silver and oil with paper dollars thus reducing their link with the U.S.A. (financially speaking)?
Crazy about China

He is telling the truth. China is using slave labor from North Korea to produce ultra-cheap electronics and textiles, and then they dump these products into the United States and the European Union. The locally made products can't compete with them, and millions of Americans are being made jobless. Time has come to end this madness.

[Spendulus]

Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....

It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]

The only reason Bush won was that votes are private and anonymous. If Gore could have introduced even one person to the Supreme Court who could have assured the Court that such and such a vote was his, the whole thing would have had to have been done over. Gore simply wasn't clever enough to find one good liar who would acknowledge one vote as his own.

That paragraph you wrote makes no sense.  

My comment was a critique on the statement that "Bush stole the election."  I seriously think that if that was the case, there should be some evidence for it, not just the assertion.  Of course, the assertion, repeated over and over for decades, will serve a propaganda purpose for the Democrats.  For this goal truth is not a requirement.

[RoomBot]

Well, I'm not a Democrat & not interested in 2-party propaganda.

You make a good point, though, @Spendulus, and I have to admit, Gore rolled over like a puppy without a fight.

[BADecker]

Exactly.

Jeb Bush (Florida Gov., with FLA Supreme Court,) helped DUH-Bull-You (George W.) steal the election from Al Gore in 2000.

I was quite peeved about this theft when it happened and afterward.  ....

It always seemed to me that if "Bush stole it," Gore should have won at LEAST ONE of the recounts.  But he didn't.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida_election_recount

The Florida vote was ultimately settled in favor of George W. Bush, by a margin of only 537 votes out of almost 6 million cast, when the U.S. Supreme Court, with its final ruling on Bush v. Gore, stopped a recount that had been proposed by the Florida Supreme Court. The outcome of the original vote count, and all subsequent recounts resulted in Bush winning Florida, which in turn, gave Bush a majority of votes in the Electoral College, winning the overall presidential election.[1]

The only reason Bush won was that votes are private and anonymous. If Gore could have introduced even one person to the Supreme Court who could have assured the Court that such and such a vote was his, the whole thing would have had to have been done over. Gore simply wasn't clever enough to find one good liar who would acknowledge one vote as his own.

That paragraph you wrote makes no sense.  

My comment was a critique on the statement that "Bush stole the election."  I seriously think that if that was the case, there should be some evidence for it, not just the assertion.  Of course, the assertion, repeated over and over for decades, will serve a propaganda purpose for the Democrats.  For this goal truth is not a requirement.

You simply haven't realized yet, that voting and vote counts are political, and in the realm of "paperwork." A man, standing in his human capacity as a man, and stating a fact that nobody can controvert, is stronger than politics and paperwork and codes, and even in many cases, the law.

Well who would get up and state for a fact, on oath, on first hand knowledge, that the man was lying, especially if he wasn't?

[RoomBot]

Trump is finally a candidate that is America first. The mere thought of a president that won't sell out America is throwing the political elite into a tailspin. Moreover, simple demographics with the never ending refuge/ illegal alien invasion says this will be the last chance to right the ship.

Even so, he will have to pick a VP running mate absolutely stinking of politics, if he wants to win this thing.

[Spendulus]

Well, I'm not a Democrat & not interested in 2-party propaganda.

You make a good point, though, @Spendulus, and I have to admit, Gore rolled over like a puppy without a fight.

I understand.  I just think we don't advance anything by mindlessly repeating the propaganda of the past that was couched in the two party right or wrong, good vs evil.  So like to me it's just an issue to examine.   Did he steal the election, facts, examine, yes/no/maybe.  Thats all.