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October 10, 2012, 02:36:38 AM |
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Does anything good ever happen to bitcoin?
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Bitcoin Oz
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October 10, 2012, 02:37:47 AM |
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on GLBSE you can log in and put email and payout address....and give up your identity.
That ain't acceptable to me. I never agreed to give that kind of information. https://i.imgur.com/CiDfd.png |
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legolouman
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October 10, 2012, 02:39:08 AM |
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I have emailed Nefario and intend to get to the bottom of this.
Wish me luck!
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If you love me, you'd give me a Satoshi!
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October 10, 2012, 02:40:16 AM |
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There is a deadline to submit this documentation?
I have no balance, but I have thousands of PPTs ... until the situation with pirate is clarified I have no need to identify myself.
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bbit
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October 10, 2012, 02:42:48 AM |
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on GLBSE you can log in and put email and payout address....and give up your identity.
That ain't acceptable to me. I never agreed to give that kind of information. https://i.imgur.com/CiDfd.pnglulz ^^   |
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bbit
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October 10, 2012, 02:43:30 AM |
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I have emailed Nefario and intend to get to the bottom of this.
Wish me luck!
Good luck! the guy is gone heading to the Bahama's ! |
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mc_lovin
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October 10, 2012, 02:53:20 AM |
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I thought a few minutes ago the front page only required email address and payout address.
a photo of me with my username on a piece of paper?
what kind of joke is this?
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freeAgent
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October 10, 2012, 02:54:03 AM |
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Steal my identity, please. Nefario ran a business he now claims was illegal. Yet, he won't unwind that business without proof of identity? He's already proven that he cannot be trusted. He's just a random person in the UK (or somewhere) who wants all my personal data. No, thank you. Maybe Nefario got this idea from 419eater.  |
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October 10, 2012, 02:54:54 AM |
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do you want my fingerprints, too, Nefario?
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stochastic
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October 10, 2012, 02:57:50 AM |
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Theymos,
I think you need to start charging more for the bitcointalk advertisements. With Nefario gone AWOL and you the acting BitcoinGlobal treasurer unwilling to release any other shareholder information, you will be held responsible.
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Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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Bitcoin Oz
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October 10, 2012, 03:02:00 AM |
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Theymos,
I think you need to start charging more for the bitcointalk advertisements. With Nefario gone AWOL and you the acting BitcoinGlobal treasurer unwilling to release any other shareholder information, you will be held responsible.
Its not right to release them unless they come forward themselves. |
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repentance
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October 10, 2012, 03:11:15 AM |
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on GLBSE you can log in and put email and payout address....and give up your identity.
After an email and payout address screen, the next asks for: To comply with money laundering regulations we must ask you to submit documents for proof of your address and identity.
1. Please provide a clear picture of your photo ID. For France, Germany, Spain, and English speaking countries ID cards, Passports and drivers licences are accepted, for everywhere else only passports are accepted.
2. Please provide a clear picture of you, holding a piece of paper with your GLBSE username and the date written on it.
3. Please provide a clear(unaltered) picture of proof of address. Tax statements or utility bills are accepted. This must clearly show your name (same as that on your ID) and address, it must also be dated within the last 3 months.
Not accepted are bank statements or bills issued electronically Is there any reference on that page to how the data will be stored and for how long? There are usually a shit load of laws regarding collecting information which contains unique government identifiers and you're usually required to inform users of the specific legislation which requires the collection information, what the information will be used for, any privacy legislation which applies to the collection of the data, etc. Nefario needs to get his hot-shot lawyer to draft a notice regarding the authority to collect the information and the data protection measures which will be taken. He also needs to inform people of how long the information will be retained. In FATF nations (of which the UK is one), data collected for AML/KYC purposes is generally required to be kept for 5-7 years. theymos, I'd seriously consider handing any remaining funds in your control over to a lawyer to be kept in trust for the time being. |
All I can say is that this is Bitcoin. I don't believe it until I see six confirmations.
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stochastic
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October 10, 2012, 03:13:09 AM |
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Theymos,
I think you need to start charging more for the bitcointalk advertisements. With Nefario gone AWOL and you the acting BitcoinGlobal treasurer unwilling to release any other shareholder information, you will be held responsible.
Its not right to release them unless they come forward themselves. The BitcoinGlobal shareholders can't keep their CEO from stealing the GLBSE database so why not release their names? |
Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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October 10, 2012, 03:21:35 AM |
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The BitcoinGlobal shareholders can't keep their CEO from stealing the GLBSE database so why not release their names?
Theymos should consult a lawyer and come clean with whatever information he has to the authorities. This vigilantism is just an extension of lawless unregulated situation that allowed this scam to thrive. |
"Money is like manure: Spread around, it helps things grow. Piled up in one place, it just stinks."
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Bogart
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October 10, 2012, 03:24:04 AM |
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Is there any reference on that page to how the data will be stored and for how long? There are usually a shit load of laws regarding collecting information which contains unique government identifiers and you're usually required to inform users of the specific legislation which requires the collection information, what the information will be used for, any privacy legislation which applies to the collection of the data, etc. Nefario needs to get his hot-shot lawyer to draft a notice regarding the authority to collect the information and the data protection measures which will be taken. He also needs to inform people of how long the information will be retained. In FATF nations (of which the UK is one), data collected for AML/KYC purposes is generally required to be kept for 5-7 years.
Said even more pointedly in another thread: Haven't seen that request, but if they're requesting personal information there's a few points they need to clear up first:
1. If the information is for AML purposes then which AML supervisor are they registered with? In the uK there's about 8 different supervisors, depending on the nature of your business (IF your business is one subject to the AML legislation). The obvious one for them would be the FSA (which covers financial service providers) but there ARE others (e.g. casinos have the gambling/gaming commission). If they're requesting information for AML purposes then they need to be registered with one of the designated supervisory bodies.
2. If it's for AML purposes then a link please to their AML compliance policy.
3. If not for AML purposes then what is this information going to be used for? And how long will it be retained for? This is information they're obligated to provide under the Data Protection Act.
4. Irrespective of the answers above, link please to their DPA compliance policy/statement?
5. Can GLBSE please confirm that they have professional indemnity insurance covering them against loss or misuse of clients' data.
6. What is their intention in respect of anyone who refuses to provide the documents but requests their funds returned? Will they just keep the money? Report them as a suspected money launderer? Turn their BTC over to the police?
As soon as I receive the request referred to in OP I'll be emailing requesting the above information (can't check my email right now - assume that's where it is). If they refuse to answer the questions but persist in requesting the information then I will next send a formal request for my funds (providing my name/address but not giving any documents which would allow identity theft).
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"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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October 10, 2012, 03:27:54 AM |
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I thought a few minutes ago the front page only required email address and payout address.
a photo of me with my username on a piece of paper?
what kind of joke is this?
As one person mentioned somewhere just scan a picture of your nutsack and send it in! I mean really how are they going to know its you? |
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stochastic
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October 10, 2012, 03:35:57 AM |
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GLBSE was a product created by BitcoinGlobal. BitcoinGlobal is an "Internet corporation" not registered anywhere. I believe that from the standpoint of the law, Nefario is sole proprietor of GLBSE and BitcoinGlobal doesn't exist. But BitcoinGlobal's bylaws can be enforced by this community. CEO: Nefario Secretary: ColdHardMetal Accountant: ColdHardMetal Treasurer: Me Nefario's supporters are decent enough people. I don't want to open them up to harassment by releasing their names. You can't enforce BitcoinGlobal's bylaws unless you release the other shareholders names. If you are unwilling to do that then the only confirmed shareholders of BitcoinGlobal is: Nefario, ColdHardMetal, you, and bitcoin.me |
Introducing constraints to the economy only serves to limit what can be economical.
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October 10, 2012, 03:49:10 AM |
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This is ridiculous, asking people to place even more trust and sensitive data in the hands of someone who is at best grossly incompetent, and at worst a thief.
Honest GLBSE officers and shareholders, please intervene and give us a reasonable means to reclaim our funds and assets. One that does not require us to place additional trust where it clearly should not be placed.
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"All safe deposit boxes in banks or financial institutions have been sealed... and may only be opened in the presence of an agent of the I.R.S." - President F.D. Roosevelt, 1933
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October 10, 2012, 03:50:00 AM |
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Oh man, you really want mugshots from us? lololol
Also I am not sure I can provide point 3, would be a letter from health insurance also ok??
This is much worse than mtgox AML, I have an account on gox and cash in-out only in btc
and never had to verify...
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October 10, 2012, 03:56:24 AM |
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Honest GLBSE officers and shareholders, please intervene and give us a reasonable means to reclaim our funds and assets. One that does not require us to place additional trust where it clearly should not be placed.
We would, but we have no way of bypassing Nefario. I don't believe our bylaws would be legally recognized, so legal action probably wouldn't be effective. And we don't have enough operating funds to pursue legal action anyway. |
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