Nefario

[HorseRider]

@LoupGaroux

Speaking aloud won't help if nefario is really scamming.

It will be very easy for this community to sum up all the information we need to ask England police to visit at Nefario's house. I think setting up unregulated security exchange is surely a crime in England, especially will arouse the attention from authority if lots of people claim to be the victims. If Nefario is sane, he won't let that happen.

If everyone gets their bitcoin and assets back and GLBSE close without disputation after all, there will not likely anyone report to the police, nor the police and authority will have the motivation to look into the past seriously as there is no victims.

The only problem is that maybe Nefario has being short Bitcoin as Priate40 does. He just does not have enough bitcoin in hand right now. But even if this is true, he will have motivation to borrow money to buy bitcoin and give it back to us.

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[muyuu]

I just had a call with James, and he has said that there should be a way to claim what yours on GLBSE within a day, and everything in terms of shareholder info and people getting their btc back should be resolved this week.

He definitely could have closed the exchange a bit more gracefully, but according to him, he doesn't want to hold the high amount of liability he has attained any longer.

So let's stop the fud for a bit, and see how this week goes.

Best of luck to everyone involved,
Garrett

If he wants my personal documents then that doesn't count. Next time you talk to him, clarify this particular point.

[LoupGaroux]

@HorseRider- Son, if you think any one of the gangsters who have ripped this community off to date is ever going to borrow funds/bitcoin to pay anybody back, you need to hie your happy ass back to the newbie forum and start reading from the beginning. Screw the English police- James wants to play at gangsters? Let's have some hard boys speak with him and see if gentle persuasion will loosen his grip on the money that isn't his. We have had threats of serious physical harm for far less than the amount that James has locked up here. He has done nothing to indicate that he is going to return those funds, other than to produce a tired set of lies all too familiar to the victims of other bitcoin scams here. Being an apologist for a scumbag is not a popular position with me, unless James takes massive action to rectify this situation IMMEDIATELY, he, and all his supporters, are equally guilty in my consideration. Quit wasting your time here, and work on getting his ass out of the situation.

[capn noe]

@HorseRider- Son, if you think any one of the gangsters who have ripped this community off to date is ever going to borrow funds/bitcoin to pay anybody back, you need to hie your happy ass back to the newbie forum and start reading from the beginning. Screw the English police- James wants to play at gangsters? Let's have some hard boys speak with him and see if gentle persuasion will loosen his grip on the money that isn't his. We have had threats of serious physical harm for far less than the amount that James has locked up here. He has done nothing to indicate that he is going to return those funds, other than to produce a tired set of lies all too familiar to the victims of other bitcoin scams here. Being an apologist for a scumbag is not a popular position with me, unless James takes massive action to rectify this situation IMMEDIATELY, he, and all his supporters, are equally guilty in my consideration. Quit wasting your time here, and work on getting his ass out of the situation.

Whoa, you gonna hire a posse to put everyone that is posting positively about Nefario in their place?

Do you think you can crowdsource it?

Nice!

[chrisrico]

He definitely could have closed the exchange a bit more gracefully, but according to him, he doesn't want to hold the high amount of liability he has attained any longer.

The shareholders offered Nefario the option of stepping down as CEO and selling his shares back to us, but he refused. So it's not just that he doesn't want to hot the high amount of liability he has attained (of his own volition) any longer.

[mc_lovin]

@HorseRider- Son, if you think any one of the gangsters who have ripped this community off to date is ever going to borrow funds/bitcoin to pay anybody back, you need to hie your happy ass back to the newbie forum and start reading from the beginning. Screw the English police- James wants to play at gangsters? Let's have some hard boys speak with him and see if gentle persuasion will loosen his grip on the money that isn't his. We have had threats of serious physical harm for far less than the amount that James has locked up here. He has done nothing to indicate that he is going to return those funds, other than to produce a tired set of lies all too familiar to the victims of other bitcoin scams here. Being an apologist for a scumbag is not a popular position with me, unless James takes massive action to rectify this situation IMMEDIATELY, he, and all his supporters, are equally guilty in my consideration. Quit wasting your time here, and work on getting his ass out of the situation.

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[Bogart]

Whoa, you gonna hire a posse to put everyone that is posting positively about Nefario in their place?

If that place is the looney bin, that seems about right.

Srsly, how could anyone involved hold a positive opinion of Nefario right now, with all that's happened?  The lies upon lies, the utter lack of any credible information given, the series of inappropriately unilateral actions taken, etc.  Is there anyone here he hasn't screwed at this point?

Regular users with only BTC on deposit: Check.
Regular users who hold shares on GLBSE: Check.
Asset issuers: Check.
Shareholders in GLBSE itself: Check.
GLBSE Officers and board members: Check.

Am I forgetting anyone?

How indeed?

Shooting the moon only works in Hearts.

[stochastic]

I just had a call with James, and he has said that there should be a way to claim what yours on GLBSE within a day, and everything in terms of shareholder info and people getting their btc back should be resolved this week.

He definitely could have closed the exchange a bit more gracefully, but according to him, he doesn't want to hold the high amount of liability he has attained any longer.

So let's stop the fud for a bit, and see how this week goes.

Best of luck to everyone involved,
Garrett

Notice he said when you can make a claim, but  nothing about when things would be returned.

Take the estimate and multiply by 2-5.  This is more realistic as most people usually overestimate their ability or quickness.

[conspirosphere.tk]

Asset issuers: Check.

Actually for some asset issuers this may be a lucky strike: they got money and probably will not have to pay back nuthin.
So much luck that someone rightly suspects that some of them may be co-conspirators.

Anyway, wake me up when some crook pays up (in one way or the other).

[Bogart]

Asset issuers: Check.

Actually for some asset issuers this may be a lucky strike: they got money and probably will not have to pay back nuthin.
So much luck that someone rightly suspects that some of them may be co-conspirators.

Hm, well there is that.

However, if the issuer's plans in any way hinged on the continuing liquidity of their offered shares (as pretty much any honest plan would), they're still screwed in that regard.

Free coins are nice, though they can't (honestly) feel too good about how they came to possess them.

They will also surely have to deal with victimized users asking for their coins back, or shares, and will have no way to verify any claim.

Really it sounds like the only ones to truly benefit are any who were not on-the-level in the first place.

[bitfair]

And another day has passed, apparently without any progress...

Does anybody know why the "account verification system" was taken offline earlier today? Did Nefario get a smackdown from the other shareholders, did his lawyer suddenly tell him not to do it, or did he just suddenly realise that nobody would trust him with that info any longer?

Anyone with some knowledge would like to shed some light on it?

[greyhawk]

And another day has passed, apparently without any progress...

Does anybody know why the "account verification system" was taken offline earlier today? Did Nefario get a smackdown from the other shareholders, did his lawyer suddenly tell him not to do it, or did he just suddenly realise that nobody would trust him with that info any longer?

Anyone with some knowledge would like to shed some light on it?

Considering that scanning an ID (Personalausweis) is illegal in Germany, I would guess it might have to do with his requiring Germans to scan their ID.

[conspirosphere.tk]

or did he receive too many goatsee?

[bitfair]

or did he receive too many goatsee?

In that case, nobody will get their stuff back at least until he regains his eyesight...

[Garr255]

LoupGaroux: I agree with your post about him unlawfully holding funds, and I obviously don't support it in any way. Please acknowledge that when I say things such as "he said" that in no way do I support what he's doing. I'm just voicing to the community what I know.

And on the phone he mentioned that ID probably will not be required for shareholders. Hopefully we'll find out today.

I'll give him a call in a few minutes asking for another update.

[johnlu]

And on the phone he mentioned that ID probably will not be required for shareholders. Hopefully we'll find out today.

I'll give him a call in a few minutes asking for another update.

I'm waiting for new updates.

[repentance]

I'll give him a call in a few minutes asking for another update.

While you're at it, can you ask him why he doesn't have the balls to deal directly with the community himself? 

[vampire]

I'll give him a call in a few minutes asking for another update.

While you're at it, can you ask him why he doesn't have the balls to deal directly with the community himself?  

+1.

Why is he's changing contract now? I haven't agreed anywhere to provide my ID to him, he should understand that I can refuse to provide any ID to him. And then I can use him for money he owes me with penalties.

[vampire]

But when you sue him would he not then know your identity?

He would know my company's name, but he would pay a price for that. Nothing is free in this world.

[Rarity]

why he doesn't have the balls to deal directly with the community himself?  

Gee I dunno, could it be because this community turns into a pitchfork wielding mob that doesn't think straight and blames the wrong people?  It's amazing Theymos is getting away with whipping up a mob on his forum while whitewashing his involvement in all this.  Wake up, people.

Screw the English police- James wants to play at gangsters? Let's have some hard boys speak with him and see if gentle persuasion will loosen his grip on the money that isn't his.

Nef's car: