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June 08, 2023, 09:37:19 PM
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I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

That is just stupid. Mourinho gaved them a first european title in the history of the club then another final the next year and they cant blame a coach that might be the best one in their history. They lost the final pretty unlucky and it could have gone both ways in the end
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June 08, 2023, 10:16:02 PM
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I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

That is just stupid. Mourinho gaved them a first european title in the history of the club then another final the next year and they cant blame a coach that might be the best one in their history. They lost the final pretty unlucky and it could have gone both ways in the end

Honestly I read your post and thought how is it possible that Roma has never won anything in the European competitions and checked it but you are right. If someone asked me whether they have ever won anything their club history, I would have said yes for sure. They are somehow such a big name that I guess many would assume they must have won something before even when it is two or three decades ago. The Conference League was a first "big" success for them, but I don't expect them to make it much further than this in the coming seasons. Given what the line-up looked like this season in the Europa League, not many would have expected to see Roma play for the title.

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June 08, 2023, 10:19:06 PM
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I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

That is just stupid. Mourinho gaved them a first european title in the history of the club then another final the next year and they cant blame a coach that might be the best one in their history. They lost the final pretty unlucky and it could have gone both ways in the end
Let them put the blame on me instead of Mourinho  Cheesy.
Mourinho did great work in Roma and took them to Europa finals but the players were unable to win the match due to the fact that they underestimated Sevilla and never put into consideration that the match might last for 120mins. I saw how tired and weak Roma players are in the extra 30mins,but Sevilla were strong and very active in that time. Is it Mourinho that will go and score the penalty for Roma. Instead Roma stained Mourinho unbeaten record in Europa league in the finals. If they are blaming Mourinho,it means that they are not greatful with their performance this season.

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June 08, 2023, 11:11:30 PM
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I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

where did you see that? I see the opposite thing than you. All of roma fans are putting their respects on mourinho and none of them were blaming mourinho. they do know that if mourinho was able giving the best for roma even though this club was poor enugh at this moment. Mourinho didn't get what he wants and he was still happy. Mounrinho brings roma to the two european final in two season. That's why all of roma fans are willing to see mourinho to stay even longer rather than seeing him to leave from the club.
it's caused by all of as roma fans knew how big the impact from mourinho. Roma was never entering into the final but mourinho was changing it. Roma performed so good when mourinho come to the roma.
It's changing the structure in the team to be even better. I expect performance from roma will be mediocre again without him.

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June 08, 2023, 11:58:56 PM
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I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

where did you see that? I see the opposite thing than you. All of roma fans are putting their respects on mourinho and none of them were blaming mourinho. they do know that if mourinho was able giving the best for roma even though this club was poor enugh at this moment. Mourinho didn't get what he wants and he was still happy. Mounrinho brings roma to the two european final in two season. That's why all of roma fans are willing to see mourinho to stay even longer rather than seeing him to leave from the club.
it's caused by all of as roma fans knew how big the impact from mourinho. Roma was never entering into the final but mourinho was changing it. Roma performed so good when mourinho come to the roma.
It's changing the structure in the team to be even better. I expect performance from roma will be mediocre again without him.
Yes that's absolutely right, roma team is not good enough and the administration should start bringing more good players to the team if they want to play for trophies, blaming the couch now is surely not the right thing to do and roma fans are surely aware of this

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June 09, 2023, 12:26:14 AM
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I see many As Roma fans blaming Mourinho because of the bad performance he had this season and because he lost the game against Sevilla in the Europa League while in fact Mourinho had a good performance and we can't blame him for anything. The only thing they can blame Mourinho for is the place of As Roma in the league where they got 6th pale of the table.

where did you see that? I see the opposite thing than you. All of roma fans are putting their respects on mourinho and none of them were blaming mourinho. they do know that if mourinho was able giving the best for roma even though this club was poor enugh at this moment. Mourinho didn't get what he wants and he was still happy. Mounrinho brings roma to the two european final in two season. That's why all of roma fans are willing to see mourinho to stay even longer rather than seeing him to leave from the club.
it's caused by all of as roma fans knew how big the impact from mourinho. Roma was never entering into the final but mourinho was changing it. Roma performed so good when mourinho come to the roma.
It's changing the structure in the team to be even better. I expect performance from roma will be mediocre again without him.
Correct. The arrival of Mourinho has indeed had a lot of good effects for the Roman club and even for the Roma fans themselves. And Roma's achievements this season are also not too bad. Even getting to the Europa League final is an achievement that I didn't even expect with Rome's current condition. Because as we know Rome doesn't have many top players in it. but making it to the Europa League Final is also proof that Mourinho can even maximize Roma's performance even with an mediocre squad. Even in the match against Sevilla, Roma had more accurate shots at the opponent's goal, even though they were constantly under pressure. And the defeat in the Europa League is also not proof that Roma have lost in terms of performance on the field. but they were just unlucky in the penalty shootout. and it was the mentality of the Roma players that was a little weak in the penalty shootout. And sevilla is superior in the mentality of the players too.

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June 09, 2023, 01:49:24 AM
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Correct. The arrival of Mourinho has indeed had a lot of good effects for the Roman club and even for the Roma fans themselves.
It started with a very warm welcome from Romanista to Mourinho two summers ago. It warmed the heart of Mourinho after some sad experience in Manchester United then Tottenham Hotspur.

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And Roma's achievements this season are also not too bad. Even getting to the Europa League final is an achievement that I didn't even expect with Rome's current condition. Because as we know Rome doesn't have many top players in it. but making it to the Europa League Final is also proof that Mourinho can even maximize Roma's performance even with an mediocre squad.
Even rich clubs in Premier League like Arsenal, Manchester United could not play the Europa League final match, it is a big achievement for Roma. I agree with you that Mourinho has very important role in this achievement of Roma.

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Even in the match against Sevilla, Roma had more accurate shots at the opponent's goal, even though they were constantly under pressure. And the defeat in the Europa League is also not proof that Roma have lost in terms of performance on the field. but they were just unlucky in the penalty shootout. and it was the mentality of the Roma players that was a little weak in the penalty shootout. And sevilla is superior in the mentality of the players too.
Mentality of Roma and Sevilla players are the same and difference is shown only in penalties. Sevilla have more players who experienced such tough tests in World Cup 2022 but Roma don't have such players. Dybala, Matic, Pellegrini were sent out because they were not able to play until the penalty time.

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June 09, 2023, 01:54:23 AM
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Juventus is certainly unluckiest due to the points penalty that they received, they would have been at UCL next season if they could have won, that is a sad situation for them. However, it is also the teams at conference league that would be pretty unlucky as well, to meet Juventus a team that deserved UCL next season but you are a small time conference league team.

There is a 90+ percent chance of them winning it even today, sure by the end there could be some semi decent teams but I am pretty sure that none of them will be too good. This is why Juventus should be looking at the silver lining, if they are winning the conference league at the end of this season then that is going to be another cup, one that is not that important but better than zero cups at least.

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June 09, 2023, 02:58:33 AM
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Juventus is certainly unluckiest due to the points penalty that they received, they would have been at UCL next season if they could have won, that is a sad situation for them. However, it is also the teams at conference league that would be pretty unlucky as well, to meet Juventus a team that deserved UCL next season but you are a small time conference league team.

There is a 90+ percent chance of them winning it even today, sure by the end there could be some semi decent teams but I am pretty sure that none of them will be too good. This is why Juventus should be looking at the silver lining, if they are winning the conference league at the end of this season then that is going to be another cup, one that is not that important but better than zero cups at least.
Juventus' fall from grace to grass over the years suggests that their players are not competitive enough. Juventus manager Massimiliano Allegri is doing everything he can for the club; it's simply that they've been dealt some bad news. It was shocking to see Juventus lose points for the second time this season, indicating a dismal season for the old lady. However, they still have a fair chance to shoot their best shot at the European Conference League, and I'm very convinced that if the club develops, they will be in the finals next season, as the competition is just for consistent clubs, and while West Ham won this year, the next one is unexpected.

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June 09, 2023, 03:11:21 AM
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Correct. The arrival of Mourinho has indeed had a lot of good effects for the Roman club and even for the Roma fans themselves.
It started with a very warm welcome from Romanista to Mourinho two summers ago. It warmed the heart of Mourinho after some sad experience in Manchester United then Tottenham Hotspur.

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And Roma's achievements this season are also not too bad. Even getting to the Europa League final is an achievement that I didn't even expect with Rome's current condition. Because as we know Rome doesn't have many top players in it. but making it to the Europa League Final is also proof that Mourinho can even maximize Roma's performance even with an mediocre squad.
Even rich clubs in Premier League like Arsenal, Manchester United could not play the Europa League final match, it is a big achievement for Roma. I agree with you that Mourinho has very important role in this achievement of Roma.

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Even in the match against Sevilla, Roma had more accurate shots at the opponent's goal, even though they were constantly under pressure. And the defeat in the Europa League is also not proof that Roma have lost in terms of performance on the field. but they were just unlucky in the penalty shootout. and it was the mentality of the Roma players that was a little weak in the penalty shootout. And sevilla is superior in the mentality of the players too.
Mentality of Roma and Sevilla players are the same and difference is shown only in penalties. Sevilla have more players who experienced such tough tests in World Cup 2022 but Roma don't have such players. Dybala, Matic, Pellegrini were sent out because they were not able to play until the penalty time.
I think if Roma can add some top players to the team in the coming season in the current transfer market. So I think in the coming season Mourinho will be ready to make Roma shine even more and I estimate they can even get Champions league tickets in the coming season. but on condition that Roma must add some top players to the squad.

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June 09, 2023, 03:50:01 AM
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I think if Roma can add some top players to the team in the coming season in the current transfer market. So I think in the coming season Mourinho will be ready to make Roma shine even more and I estimate they can even get Champions league tickets in the coming season. but on condition that Roma must add some top players to the squad.
Roma has starting to hunting new players this summer that the names such as Houssem Aouar from Lyon, Sassuolo player Davide Frattesi and Spezia top scorer M’Bala Nzola has been into their radar and i am sure one of them will being an Roma player next season and the management has been learn from their previous mistakes and they will let Mourinho to build Roma with bought several good quality players and besides that Dybala was confirmed he will be stayed at Roma although he got several offers from other clubs but he decide will play with Roma a bit longer and besides that the most important is Mourinho has been extended his contract until 2026 and this is good news for Roma because this is what fans want

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June 09, 2023, 05:15:12 AM
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I think if Roma can add some top players to the team in the coming season in the current transfer market. So I think in the coming season Mourinho will be ready to make Roma shine even more and I estimate they can even get Champions league tickets in the coming season. but on condition that Roma must add some top players to the squad.
Roma has starting to hunting new players this summer that the names such as Houssem Aouar from Lyon, Sassuolo player Davide Frattesi and Spezia top scorer M’Bala Nzola has been into their radar and i am sure one of them will being an Roma player next season and the management has been learn from their previous mistakes and they will let Mourinho to build Roma with bought several good quality players and besides that Dybala was confirmed he will be stayed at Roma although he got several offers from other clubs but he decide will play with Roma a bit longer and besides that the most important is Mourinho has been extended his contract until 2026 and this is good news for Roma because this is what fans want

The scope for Roma to become active on the transfer market is probably quite limited. Their priority should be to extend some of their most important contracts and I would say that also counts for Dybala. He had injury issues, but every time he played this season he was able to make the difference. If they can manage to fix his injuries and have him play the majority of the games, I think he is a real asset to the club. They are currently negotiating about an extension until 2025, which is still a relatively short contract as he is 29 years old but I guess both parties want to keep their options for another move afterwards. If he keeps being injured, it would be a bad deal for Roma of course as I think he isn't the cheapest guy on the salary list.

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June 09, 2023, 06:22:19 AM
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Juventus' fall from grace to grass over the years suggests that their players are not competitive enough. Juventus manager Massimiliano Allegri is doing everything he can for the club; it's simply that they've been dealt some bad news. It was shocking to see Juventus lose points for the second time this season, indicating a dismal season for the old lady. However, they still have a fair chance to shoot their best shot at the European Conference League, and I'm very convinced that if the club develops, they will be in the finals next season, as the competition is just for consistent clubs, and while West Ham won this year, the next one is unexpected.
if you remember the problem experienced by Juventus deducting points towards the end of this season is very sad. because in the first point deduction it was clear that it affected the performance of the Juventus players after that the second deduction put even more pressure on the Juventus players which made them not confident.
but I'm sure Juventus next season has the strength to get a champions league ticket even though this season they don't get it.

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June 09, 2023, 06:44:08 AM
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Juventus is certainly unluckiest due to the points penalty that they received, they would have been at UCL next season if they could have won, that is a sad situation for them. However, it is also the teams at conference league that would be pretty unlucky as well, to meet Juventus a team that deserved UCL next season but you are a small time conference league team.

There is a 90+ percent chance of them winning it even today, sure by the end there could be some semi decent teams but I am pretty sure that none of them will be too good. This is why Juventus should be looking at the silver lining, if they are winning the conference league at the end of this season then that is going to be another cup, one that is not that important but better than zero cups at least.

Although it will be disappointing for them not to be in the Champion League next season, I think you're right that being in Conference League does not necessarily mean a team is bad or underperforming; there are many teams that wanted to be in that position but were unsuccessful; they still have a chance to succeed and earn a spot in the Champion League the following season because I'm confident that all the teams that qualify to Conference league, there are none that are good enough than juventus.
Losing a lot of points had a significant impact on their ability to qualify for the Champions League, but this will encourage them to practice more before the upcoming season.

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I think if Roma can add some top players to the team in the coming season in the current transfer market. So I think in the coming season Mourinho will be ready to make Roma shine even more and I estimate they can even get Champions league tickets in the coming season. but on condition that Roma must add some top players to the squad.

to go to the transfer market and make good purchases you need money
something that Roma don't seem to want to spend (maybe they don't have them)
but he spent it on a very expensive trainer, I honestly don't understand
could take Spalletti (who is not on very good terms with Napoli) at a lower cost

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Juventus is certainly unluckiest due to the points penalty that they received, they would have been at UCL next season if they could have won, that is a sad situation for them. However, it is also the teams at conference league that would be pretty unlucky as well, to meet Juventus a team that deserved UCL next season but you are a small time conference league team.

I don't even know whether this is a conspiracy or not but juventus was too late taking an action to realize its mistake. As far as i know that if FGIC was always opening its door for juventus if the club is willing to realize its mistake and promised to be even better in upcoming season.
The deduction from juventus's points at the end of season were giving a mentality problem for all of players. It's caused by they were only a few steps to go to the UCL but FGIC was destroying it.

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In order to avoid any further points deductions, Juve have now accepted a €718,000 fine for their reported misdemeanours and will, importantly, be granted access into European competitions if they qualify for them.
https://www.90min.com/posts/juventus-learn-fate-of-figc-trial

Juventus would above to avoid the deduction points if it was accepting its mistakes when it was getting 15 points deduction.
The problem can be solved easily but juventus was taking a very hard decision just to play small fine.

It's mistake from the management.

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but I'm sure Juventus next season has the strength to get a champions league ticket even though this season they don't get it.
Next season is a different competition again, so it will be difficult to predict that Juventus will return to the champions league zone because several of their core players will certainly leave this club, Di Maria left with a free agent, Dusan Vlahovic has reportedly told Juve that he will leave His club with 3 clubs is reportedly interested in him. Dusan Vlahovic tells Juventus he wants to leave
There is Adrien Rabiot who is also rumored to be leaving Juve and Leandro Parede who will return to PSG. Transfer: Three Juventus players to leave Turin for new clubs [Full list]

So next season will be very different for Juve, and even though they will only be playing in the conference league it is not a certainty that they will be a strong team in the tournament.
And the news illustrates that the point deduction they receive is also damaging to the team, because of course it is not pleasent to play at a club that is faced with sanctions.

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June 09, 2023, 09:06:52 AM
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I think if Roma can add some top players to the team in the coming season in the current transfer market. So I think in the coming season Mourinho will be ready to make Roma shine even more and I estimate they can even get Champions league tickets in the coming season. but on condition that Roma must add some top players to the squad.
to go to the transfer market and make good purchases you need money
something that Roma don't seem to want to spend (maybe they don't have them)
but he spent it on a very expensive trainer, I honestly don't understand
could take Spalletti (who is not on very good terms with Napoli) at a lower cost
This make sense if they have not enough money then why they hired an expensive coach it's never been ideal thing for having better results hopefully now things could be on positive way for the many Italian clubs because things are coming to change which is good but still they need to spend money for the bringing good players as well for the better players.

AS Roma is surely doing impressive in last two season in UEFA competitions, but sadly they fail to have any positive impression in Italian League which is problem losing Europa Cup is main happen due to bad luck with penalties where anybody game after having impressive fight in 120 minutes of play so how they are going to compete in next season it's important after having two UEFA finals in two years.

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June 09, 2023, 09:07:10 AM
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Correct. The arrival of Mourinho has indeed had a lot of good effects for the Roman club and even for the Roma fans themselves. And Roma's achievements this season are also not too bad. Even getting to the Europa League final is an achievement that I didn't even expect with Rome's current condition. Because as we know Rome doesn't have many top players in it. but making it to the Europa League Final is also proof that Mourinho can even maximize Roma's performance even with an mediocre squad. Even in the match against Sevilla, Roma had more accurate shots at the opponent's goal, even though they were constantly under pressure. And the defeat in the Europa League is also not proof that Roma have lost in terms of performance on the field. but they were just unlucky in the penalty shootout. and it was the mentality of the Roma players that was a little weak in the penalty shootout. And sevilla is superior in the mentality of the players too.
That's why i don't know why some people were calling if fans were hating him. People are putting a lot of their respects to the mourinho. Roma will not be winning a trophy if it's not caused by him. Mourinho just like a hero for roma. So many roma fans are not willing to let him go. Roma fans are loving mourinho. He just like gives roma a new strength to face the next season that will become even harder than this time. I hope that mourinho will always stay until his contract will expire.
He has been giving signal if he will not leave from roma this season. i believe if all of news that said he will be leaving from roma was not true. Mourinho was a part of roma.

Yes that's absolutely right, roma team is not good enough and the administration should start bringing more good players to the team if they want to play for trophies, blaming the couch now is surely not the right thing to do and roma fans are surely aware of this
that's why the came of mourinho was giving significant impact. It can be said that if mourinho was changing everything in the club.
The players knew how to play football even better caused by him despite so many criticism if mou was using boring strategy.


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