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June 21, 2023, 01:03:12 PM
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It is true that AC Milan is not a team that has a lot of money, therefore, Milan will find it difficult to bring in players at high prices. I think even to bring in players at a price of 50 million euros, Milan needs to get it from player sales. Regarding rumor about Samuel Chukwueze, if it is true that AC Milan has succeeded in signing him, then Milan must be able to sell several players first. There are several names that could be options, such as Saelemaekers, Origi or even Messias.
AC Milan is like many Italian clubs in the last few years. They don't have too much money like clubs from Premier League or La Liga. They have to look at free players to convince those players participate in their clubs. Inter Milan, AC Milan, Roma, Juventus focus on this approach and they got some success. They aim at young players, not old players if they have to spend money for transfers. Because they want to build a squad that can play in a next 5 years or longer with those players.

In addition, they don't want to increase their salary ceilings too much because they are aware that it will be harmful for for their club finance after a few seasons. If results in leagues, competitions won't maintain at good levels, a higher salary ceiling will cause a financial crisis for their clubs.
Due to financial limitations in comparison to their Premier League and La Liga competitors Italian clubs like AC Milan Inter Milan Roma and Juventus have in fact adopted a cautious approach in recent years. They understand the importance of signing unrestricted players and have had great success doing so. Instead of spending a lot of money on ageing stars they are concentrating on acquiring talented young players in order to assemble a team that will be competitive for at least the next five years. These clubs are wary of significantly raising their salary ceilings because they are aware of the potential long term effects on their financial situation. They are aware that if their on field performance and trophy hauls fall short of expectations a sizable compensation hike may cause a financial disaster. These teams seek to maintain their competitive edge in the football environment by placing a high priority on financial stability and long term planning.

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June 21, 2023, 01:20:54 PM
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At the moment, bookmakers see the next season as follows:

Inter 3.00

Napoli 3.50

Juventus 4.33

Ac Milan 6.00

Quite fair assessments in my opinion and I'm glad that even though Napoli is not a favorite, they are taken seriously, and not underestimated as usual. Milan objectively looks worse than all the other teams from the big four.

It seems like that change of coach happened in napoli has been making bookies less trust it. Milan is not as strong as before. The result from last season already fully explained about it. Juventus will not get another sanction again.
I remember when juventus was still placing at the second place before the sanction was coming. Im thinking if bookies see it as the main points why juventus's odd is quite small.
Juventus has possibility to win the title this season. It's caused by juventus might finish at the second place if there would be no sanction that came to the club.
Intermilan has become the most favorite club to win the scudetto but im not sure about this since lautaro may be leaving from intermilan and join in EPL clubs. Inter can rely only on lukaku.

In fact, I rate 3.50 as optimistic (all things considered) for Napoli because basically they are always undervalued. But now, in fact, there is no “real” leader in Serie A, so bookmakers give equal quotes on average, but also take into account the fact which team became the champion and which failed (Milan).
By the way, even though Inter's quotes look like twice as good as those of Milan, if you look at the numbers in a different format, everything is not so obvious - 33% and 16%. The difference has been preserved, but here it is better to see that Inter's chances for the title are also much less than "confident".

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June 21, 2023, 01:29:58 PM
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However, it seems that AC Milan has not shown much of their aggressiveness in the transfer market this season. Because it was rumored that the club was still preoccupied with changes in management within the club. because the position of Technical Director which was originally filled by Paolo Maldini seems currently vacant. Because Paolo Maldini has been sacked from his position and this certainly makes club management have to find a replacement immediately before starting the hunt for players. And yes AC Milan does need players to strengthen their back line. which was their weakness at the end of last season.
Ac milan will be doing some movements until it will be able to recruit a new director to replace maldini as soon as possible. Geoffrey Moncada has become a new name that replaces maldini's position. The problem is this guy likes to buy the new players from the farmers league like french league or bundesliga. Im still speculating if moncada is still searching for new talent for ac milan. It's very bad for ac milan to sack maldini caused by he was in trouble with the owner of ac milan right now.
one player was also getting affected caused by the team was sacking maldini. It's ketelaere who is still uncertain in ac milan.
I hope he can try to find a new club as soon as possible.

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June 21, 2023, 02:17:18 PM
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Milan is not very financially sound. They have limitations. They cannot buy players at high prices. This is why this team has not been able to fight for the Serie A title for a long time. Every season they aim to perform somewhat consistently and qualify for the Champions League. They do not have the strong squad and ability to win the title.
Samuel Chukwueze may be interested in joining the Milan team. But he is not a regular scorer. Samuel Chukwueze scored 6 goals in 37 matches last season. If Milan could add an experienced scorer to the squad, their attack would be stronger. However, adding a young player like Samuel Chukwueze to the team would be a good decision for Milan. Maybe Samuel Chukwueze can score a lot of goals if he adapts to Milan's tactics.
A bit all the teams are in the poo
I don't know how they spend all that money they get for television rights, merchandising, and so on
it's just impressive .. in any case I agree with you
i hope they return back with young players

You are right. Since Milan doesn't have a lot of money right now, they should try to sign young players. If the coach is experienced, it is possible to perform well with young players. Milan aim to bring stability to the performance. This team will not fight for the title. And therefore Milan management has no interest in spending too much money. However, there are likely to be several major changes to Milan's squad next season.

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June 21, 2023, 02:30:40 PM
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You are right. Since Milan doesn't have a lot of money right now, they should try to sign young players. If the coach is experienced, it is possible to perform well with young players. Milan aim to bring stability to the performance. This team will not fight for the title. And therefore Milan management has no interest in spending too much money. However, there are likely to be several major changes to Milan's squad next season.
So far, Milan has performed well last season until it qualified for the semifinals of the UCL even though it was finally defeated by Intermilan, but Milan has good quality players, even though they don't have the money to buy great players and are famous for the current players, it seems like enough for Milan to be able to compete in the league. next season with existing players or youth players.

I'm not a Milan supporter but so far they've played well with the existing players, consistency and discipline have made them play well as a solid team, but if you want to buy a player, young players are better because many clubs recruit young players because of course during the season the future will be very tight.

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June 21, 2023, 02:36:31 PM
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They are careful in spending money because indeed their finances do not allow them to make them wasteful in spending, including bringing in players who will drain their pockets. One of the good and cheap options is to look at young players who have potential that can be developed, the money they will spend will not be so much and also when they succeed in building the character of the player it will become a strong foundation for their squad in the future . Especially now that young players are getting a lot of attention, and in fact most teams are focusing more on young players now.
They are careful because their finance is not too good and they aware that other clubs will improve and compete for top four more seriously. Top four competition will become more difficult and the last season is only a start but AC Milan only got a position in top four at very last matches.

That race will be harder with improvements of AS Roma and Juventus in a new season. Juventus will not have big point reduction like in the past season and they will have a fairer race with AC Milan. AS Roma with their last season in the current contract with Mourinho will aim at top four and they will not only want to play in Europa League. They must invest more into transfer market and have better results as well as more ambitious plan to convince Mourinho.

Generally lot of challenges for AC Milan in future and if they overspend money but get worse results, lower positions, non top four positions, they will be in financial troubles.

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June 21, 2023, 03:00:00 PM
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I look forward to seeing Frosinone's performance next season. I have seen the performances of Geona and Cagliari before. But the Frosinone team is completely new to me. Hopefully they can maintain stability in Serie A.
This is not the first time for Frosinone to playing at Serie A because if i am not mistaken they were got promotion on season 2018/2019 but they weren't last long because Frosinone has been relegated after only playing for one season and now after Frosinone being an Serie B champion most people has ben talking about their manager Fabio Grosso because it took only 2 season for him to make Frosinone return to Serie A but Groso has difficult jobs because he have to bringing this team to survive and it won't be easy especially Frosinone is the team with lack of star players

Frosinone has several important players such as Mario Sampirisi, Luca Maziatelli and their striker Samuele Mulattieri who scores 12 goals last season and these players were very solid and being an the key players for almost every matches but to reach their target i think they have to bought some players because Serie A is hard and there were plenty of strong teams at there and only tough team who can able to survive

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June 21, 2023, 03:07:18 PM
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You are right. Since Milan doesn't have a lot of money right now, they should try to sign young players. If the coach is experienced, it is possible to perform well with young players. Milan aim to bring stability to the performance. This team will not fight for the title. And therefore Milan management has no interest in spending too much money. However, there are likely to be several major changes to Milan's squad next season.
So far, Milan has performed well last season until it qualified for the semifinals of the UCL even though it was finally defeated by Intermilan, but Milan has good quality players, even though they don't have the money to buy great players and are famous for the current players, it seems like enough for Milan to be able to compete in the league. next season with existing players or youth players.

I'm not a Milan supporter but so far they've played well with the existing players, consistency and discipline have made them play well as a solid team, but if you want to buy a player, young players are better because many clubs recruit young players because of course during the season the future will be very tight.
As far as I also pay attention to Milan, it is quite closely competing in the league, 4th position in the Serie A league, and entering the semi -finals at UCL, it shows that Milan is enough to have the power to compete.

To be honest, I have not found what steps Stefano Pioli will take to strengthen his team for next season in the current situation, because if the problem is money, it is quite troublesome if you want to get a player who has a reputation on the field with a fairly expensive cost, moreover a star.

On the other hand also for flight hours training will be very stringent, unlike the previous season, training has a limit due to the presence of Covid, I think for next season by getting talented young players and by being given effective training will definitely have a very positive impact on The development of Milan itself.

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June 21, 2023, 03:28:57 PM
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Sometimes that's what I worry about from Milan, if they want good players they have to sell players who don't contribute much. But this will certainly be understood and every club must also do the same thing for the good of the team and the attitude that must be taken by Milan must be firm for all of its players, without exception. Samuel Chukwueze is a talented player and he's shown it through this season very well and it's no wonder he's getting the attention of Milan.

Some of these names seem difficult to develop at Milan and I think it should be from Milan that the players understand what they want for next season. Even so, even if Milan is not good enough, who knows in other teams it can improve for Origi, De Ketelaere and Yacine Adli. So I think they have to determine their future apart from hoping for Milan.
Clubs must always make sacrifices, whether it's selling players who are actually playing well but can't maximize their ability to bring in players they think will be able to play better than the players they're going to sell. It's normal, of course, but it must really be considered carefully, I mean when they sell players they have to bring in players who can really play better than the players they sell, because if new players they just play mediocre it's the same, lying is better to retain players who are on the current roster.

Maybe one of the options if they still don't want to sell the players they have is to let their players go on loan so they can develop and hopefully when they return their abilities are much better as you said.

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June 21, 2023, 03:36:27 PM
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As far as I also pay attention to Milan, it is quite closely competing in the league, 4th position in the Serie A league, and entering the semi -finals at UCL, it shows that Milan is enough to have the power to compete.

To be honest, I have not found what steps Stefano Pioli will take to strengthen his team for next season in the current situation, because if the problem is money, it is quite troublesome if you want to get a player who has a reputation on the field with a fairly expensive cost, moreover a star.

On the other hand also for flight hours training will be very stringent, unlike the previous season, training has a limit due to the presence of Covid, I think for next season by getting talented young players and by being given effective training will definitely have a very positive impact on The development of Milan itself.

Also the semi final didn't go that well for him as they have been missing Leao. I know it shouldn't depend on a single player that much but the truth is that Leao changes the game for them. They lost the game in the first leg while usually they had all chances to win that duel with their main rival. But for the next season I think we can expect an AC Milan at full strength. They are a team that is fun to follow and who can play top level games when they are in a good condition.

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June 21, 2023, 03:45:07 PM
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They are careful in spending money because indeed their finances do not allow them to make them wasteful in spending, including bringing in players who will drain their pockets. One of the good and cheap options is to look at young players who have potential that can be developed, the money they will spend will not be so much and also when they succeed in building the character of the player it will become a strong foundation for their squad in the future . Especially now that young players are getting a lot of attention, and in fact most teams are focusing more on young players now.
They are careful because their finance is not too good and they aware that other clubs will improve and compete for top four more seriously. Top four competition will become more difficult and the last season is only a start but AC Milan only got a position in top four at very last matches.

That race will be harder with improvements of AS Roma and Juventus in a new season. Juventus will not have big point reduction like in the past season and they will have a fairer race with AC Milan. AS Roma with their last season in the current contract with Mourinho will aim at top four and they will not only want to play in Europa League. They must invest more into transfer market and have better results as well as more ambitious plan to convince Mourinho.

Generally lot of challenges for AC Milan in future and if they overspend money but get worse results, lower positions, non top four positions, they will be in financial troubles.
Yes, this season AC Milan can be said to be very lucky because they managed to sit in 4th place in the final standings, inseparable from the sanctions received by Juventus, otherwise they would be in 5th place now. Of course next season will be very much different, and AC Milan cannot rely on the same luck where they have to fight even harder next season. The Serie A competition is becoming more interesting now that many teams can compete very competitively.
Actually this does not only apply to AC Milan, but other teams must also make changes to a better direction, otherwise they will be left behind from other teams.

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June 21, 2023, 03:57:47 PM
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I also liked the way Monza have played this season. They were able to beat Napoli, win one match against Inter and draw the other. They didn't lose to Roma in a home game. For a Serie B club, these are very good results. It is surprising that they have been able to finish this season in the middle of the standings.
Being able to compete in the mid-table is one proof of the real surprise shown by Monza as a promoted team in Serie A. Monza's success in his first season in Serie A after being promoted from Serie B seemed like a difficult dream to come true, after a long wait, Monza managed to compete well in the highest competition in Italian football.

Behind Monza's success in providing competition in Serie A there are important figures who have contributed, Silvio Berlusconi and Adriano Galliani have succeeded in building Monza's strengths since acquiring the club in 2018. Monza has made a good story after being promoted to Serie A, next season Monza will be even stronger because of Silvio Berlusconi's expectations of wanting to make Monza a new challenger in Serie A.

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I also liked the way Monza have played this season. They were able to beat Napoli, win one match against Inter and draw the other. They didn't lose to Roma in a home game. For a Serie B club, these are very good results. It is surprising that they have been able to finish this season in the middle of the standings.
Being able to compete in the mid-table is one proof of the real surprise shown by Monza as a promoted team in Serie A. Monza's success in his first season in Serie A after being promoted from Serie B seemed like a difficult dream to come true, after a long wait, Monza managed to compete well in the highest competition in Italian football.

Behind Monza's success in providing competition in Serie A there are important figures who have contributed, Silvio Berlusconi and Adriano Galliani have succeeded in building Monza's strengths since acquiring the club in 2018. Monza has made a good story after being promoted to Serie A, next season Monza will be even stronger because of Silvio Berlusconi's expectations of wanting to make Monza a new challenger in Serie A.
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s not Monza in process of selling since Silvio died? Or the story was before that. I know that there were talking about it. Monza was exiting team to follow this year.
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June 21, 2023, 04:56:18 PM
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However, it seems that AC Milan has not shown much of their aggressiveness in the transfer market this season. Because it was rumored that the club was still preoccupied with changes in management within the club. because the position of Technical Director which was originally filled by Paolo Maldini seems currently vacant. Because Paolo Maldini has been sacked from his position and this certainly makes club management have to find a replacement immediately before starting the hunt for players. And yes AC Milan does need players to strengthen their back line. which was their weakness at the end of last season.
It's a shame if changes in the management structure affect them in looking for new players who are expected to strengthen their team next season, AC Milan can't linger in determining the management so they can start looking for players who really fit their criteria, otherwise AC Milan will only it's again difficult to compete with other teams, especially in European competition because it's been a long time since they've shown an impressive performance, always unable to compete with other clubs in the big leagues.
a little saddened by the change in the management structure that was carried out by AC milan even though there was very much progress in Milan by Maldini. Maldini is one of the technical directors who always accompanies the players on the sidelines. Players also really appreciate Paulo Maldini at the club. If there wasn't Paulo Maldini at AC Milan, maybe they wouldn't have won the Scudetto trophy last year.

Even so, of course there are also minuses, but they shouldn't be fired right away. Like the failure of the 2022 summer transfer. Milan under Maldini is also a club that has been less successful in selling players. It is difficult to sell unproductive players so that it becomes a burden on the club. Also failing to sell good players who should be Milan's income such as Gigio, Hakan, Kessie and Romagnoli. We'll see, hopefully Zlatan goes into management to cool off the locker room. And hopefully Moncada can do a lot in player transfers this season.
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June 21, 2023, 05:05:13 PM
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However, it seems that AC Milan has not shown much of their aggressiveness in the transfer market this season. Because it was rumored that the club was still preoccupied with changes in management within the club. because the position of Technical Director which was originally filled by Paolo Maldini seems currently vacant. Because Paolo Maldini has been sacked from his position and this certainly makes club management have to find a replacement immediately before starting the hunt for players. And yes AC Milan does need players to strengthen their back line. which was their weakness at the end of last season.
Ac milan will be doing some movements until it will be able to recruit a new director to replace maldini as soon as possible. Geoffrey Moncada has become a new name that replaces maldini's position. The problem is this guy likes to buy the new players from the farmers league like french league or bundesliga. Im still speculating if moncada is still searching for new talent for ac milan. It's very bad for ac milan to sack maldini caused by he was in trouble with the owner of ac milan right now.
one player was also getting affected caused by the team was sacking maldini. It's ketelaere who is still uncertain in ac milan.
I hope he can try to find a new club as soon as possible.


Maldini's dismissal from Ac Milan would be a mistake they would later regret because it is hard to find a good manager who will motivate the team to work hard or perform well. Having a problem can lead to anything, but the best course of action is to resolve it. Ac Milan's performance this season has been strong even though they occasionally lose to teams that propel them to the top 5, where they would not have qualified to champion league next season without Juventus' deduction of points.
Doesn't Ac Milan's performance in the Champions League this year, which saw them advance to the Semifinal round, demonstrate that Maldini is giving his all to the team?Sometimes a team makes the mistake of firing a successful coach, which they later come to regret.

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June 21, 2023, 05:06:59 PM
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I think it's a financial issue, because teams in Italy are not as rich as teams at premier league or la liga, which means that the top are getting even bigger gap than the bottom. At premier league when you move from Championship to Premier league it is still not that easy to stay up, a lot of teams end up staying for a few years and then going down, but their lower level leagues are so competitive and loved that they still get millions of dollars, and when they win they get like hundreds of millions of dollars.

This is why I believe that the best thing for Italian teams is to build a young squad when they are at Serie B, that way they could get better as they go along, and if they go up, they are growing up, so they can stay better, older players may get success quickly, but won't keep it there.

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June 21, 2023, 05:12:13 PM
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I think it's a financial issue, because teams in Italy are not as rich as teams at premier league or la liga, which means that the top are getting even bigger gap than the bottom. At premier league when you move from Championship to Premier league it is still not that easy to stay up, a lot of teams end up staying for a few years and then going down, but their lower level leagues are so competitive and loved that they still get millions of dollars, and when they win they get like hundreds of millions of dollars.
This is why I believe that the best thing for Italian teams is to build a young squad when they are at Serie B, that way they could get better as they go along, and if they go up, they are growing up, so they can stay better, older players may get success quickly, but won't keep it there.

Serie A teams will be far behind financially when compared to Premier League teams. Even so, the teams in Serie A are strong enough. Serie A teams qualify for the Champions League, Europa League, and Conference League finals. Despite not having many star players in the squad, Serie A teams are performing well. Serie A teams should build squads with young players if they are not financially sound enough. Forming a squad with young players will make it difficult to keep the team's performance consistent. But if the coach is experienced, it is possible to form a strong squad with young players.

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AC Milan is like many Italian clubs in the last few years. They don't have too much money like clubs from Premier League or La Liga. They have to look at free players to convince those players participate in their clubs. Inter Milan, AC Milan, Roma, Juventus focus on this approach and they got some success. They aim at young players, not old players if they have to spend money for transfers. Because they want to build a squad that can play in a next 5 years or longer with those players.

In addition, they don't want to increase their salary ceilings too much because they are aware that it will be harmful for for their club finance after a few seasons. If results in leagues, competitions won't maintain at good levels, a higher salary ceiling will cause a financial crisis for their clubs.
Napoli are by far the best-financed team in Serie A with a total club market value of €640.50m. Napoli is in first place with the highest total value, followed by Inter, Milan, Juventus, Analanta and Roma.

So far Milan is in 3rd place in the list of clubs with the highest total market value, but Milan is also in third place as a team that has an average age of 27.1 years from 30 players. Milan has a lot of young players, and Milan also has some expensive players like Rafael Leão, Theo Hernández and Sandro Tonali who all have a market value of over €50 million. Currently only Mirante remains as the oldest player in Milan who is 39 years old since Zlatan Ibrahimovic was without a club.

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June 21, 2023, 05:21:43 PM
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I think it's a financial issue, because teams in Italy are not as rich as teams at premier league or la liga, which means that the top are getting even bigger gap than the bottom. At premier league when you move from Championship to Premier league it is still not that easy to stay up, a lot of teams end up staying for a few years and then going down, but their lower level leagues are so competitive and loved that they still get millions of dollars, and when they win they get like hundreds of millions of dollars.
This is why I believe that the best thing for Italian teams is to build a young squad when they are at Serie B, that way they could get better as they go along, and if they go up, they are growing up, so they can stay better, older players may get success quickly, but won't keep it there.

Serie A teams will be far behind financially when compared to Premier League teams. Even so, the teams in Serie A are strong enough. Serie A teams qualify for the Champions League, Europa League, and Conference League finals. Despite not having many star players in the squad, Serie A teams are performing well. Serie A teams should build squads with young players if they are not financially sound enough. Forming a squad with young players will make it difficult to keep the team's performance consistent. But if the coach is experienced, it is possible to form a strong squad with young players.

Lol, La Liga only has Real Madrid and Barcelona as the richest team and after all, Premier League teams are the best when it comes to finances. Also, I am surprised when you say Serie A teams are without a lot of star players because after all, teams like Inter, Juventus, Milan and also Roma have a lot of star players and maybe there are other teams too. So, I don't agree with your statement and also, young and old players are always in every team and in fact, Real Madrid still relied on old players last season too.

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This is the main problem for Milan at the moment. I personally don't think they don't want the title because of course the Scudetto is a symbol of where we rule for the domestic league but then again Milan are still constrained by the money they have.
It's obviously a bit complicated for them not only now but the previous season was like that too.
The latest news at this time for Milan is that it is possible for them to be able to bring in Samuel Chukwueze from Villarreal because of the cash book problems facing Villarreal because the possibility for Villarreal is that if they don't cut wages then they will sell Samuel Chukwueze.
This will be a good signal for Milan because Samuel Chukwueze is the main target for Milan so far.
On the other hand, it looks like Juventus will now let Cuardado and Bonnuci go.

Milan is not very financially sound. They have limitations. They cannot buy players at high prices. This is why this team has not been able to fight for the Serie A title for a long time. Every season they aim to perform somewhat consistently and qualify for the Champions League. They do not have the strong squad and ability to win the title.

Samuel Chukwueze may be interested in joining the Milan team. But he is not a regular scorer. Samuel Chukwueze scored 6 goals in 37 matches last season. If Milan could add an experienced scorer to the squad, their attack would be stronger. However, adding a young player like Samuel Chukwueze to the team would be a good decision for Milan. Maybe Samuel Chukwueze can score a lot of goals if he adapts to Milan's tactics.
Price will indeed be a consideration in this case but if Milan are really serious it won't be a problem it's just that maybe some players will have to be sacrificed for this.
The option to borrow players is the same as they always do, and it won't always work, so in this case they need to find other alternatives to make their attack line back in good condition at an affordable price.
Even though at the moment there is still Giroud, of course expecting him to always contribute in conditions that are getting older and older is also not going to go well.

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