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May 28, 2023, 12:12:42 AM
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It was really unbelievable to see Dortmund literally handing over the league title to Bayern Munich in the final moment of the season. The first half of the Dortmund - Mainz game must be a joke. They just conceded 2 goals from a team that were playing just a prestige game. How can't Dortmund realize the seriousness of this game for themselves?

Dortmund just did everything they could to lose their title opportunity. This was their biggest opportunity to win the Bundesliga title after a ten-season Bayern Munich dominance. Dortmund supporters must be very angry with their team. It is so annoying to see Bayern Munich being able to win the title even in this kind of conditions.

Dortmund have worked hard, I'm not saying they failed to work hard. But indeed the game against Mainz is indeed difficult. Actually, what I consider careless is that Munich they failed against Leipzig and that gives Dortmund hope of winning. With equal points they failed to win.

If I'm not mistaken, they have gone twelve years without a Bundesliga champion. Next year might be their best chance if their best players don't leave much, maybe they can compete again. But there are many rumors that many players will leave.

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May 28, 2023, 12:29:22 AM
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Bayern got to the top once again, it is looking like they are going to be doing fine. I knew the moment they fired Nagelsmann and got Tuchel that it may take a while before they can dominate like they always do, and they had a few bad games here and there, got eliminated from UCL which happens anyway, but they could be back on track now. It looks like they are still not at 100% Tuchel method just yet, but so far this is a good enough level to beat other teams at least.

Over time, either by the end of the season, or probably next season, they are going to be 100% Tuchel and they are going to be insanely well, going to change so much. Hopefully Dortmund will try harder and give us a good show up until the very last game of the season.
Yes, this takes time and in fact this change can be said to be not very accurate and hasty because Tuchel has to adapt to a competition that leaves little residue this season and Bayern's position is still less favorable to try something new.
But yesterday's draw for Dortmund puts Bayern on top again now and that's a very good thing for them at the moment.

I have always said it, Bayern is a team that has a very good rhythm, even though they are going through a bad time, it is a team with great lops, which Always has a way out of its crises, that is something that nobody can deny, now well if we look at the things they can do there are too many, first they must and they have the moral commitment to win because the fans are Expecting at least that, they came out of the UCL in a way that nobody expected, and in Particular things like they were not very well received.

Although Bayern's speed did get 3 points back today and that is a good thing but looking at the game they played it seems like Tuchel still hasn't been able to adapt well.
It is true that in terms of chances and possession they are still very good but on the other hand it is clearly still not enough, at the moment Bayern is still a little different in terms of goal productivity and of course with those who always have difficulty facing the opponent's counterattack this is one of the things that needs to be improved. Tuchel still needs chemistry and a good formula here.
The things that have happened at Bayern are not convincing, not even Oliver Khan , here at Bayern things have to improve , because everyone expects them to win the Bundesliga and instead Dortmund is the team that is on their heels , and consequently things are like that, and as I said before, Dormund is a team that stood out for being a great seller of very good players, and this is something that is happening at this moment, precisely when Bayern needs to quickly raise its head , because Las reviews are pretty strong b¿But after having won the Bundesliga, Bayern I think this is when many mouths have been silenced, because they can say that they did not win the UCL , but at least they won the Bundesliga , my Congratulations to all Bayern fans.

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Bayern Munich have triumphed in dramatic fashion as they overcame a late Koln penalty and a simultaneous Borussia Dortmund pushback to win their 11th straight Bundesliga title (and 33rd German league title overall). What with all the executive changes and all after the 90 minutes, former Bayern player and coach Hansi Flick has sent his former team a congratulatory message:

    Congratulations to the team, the coaching staff and the entire FC Bayern on winning their 33rd league title. In this difficult season, the team had to overcome many hurdles and winning the 11th title in a row shows their special mentality.

    – DFB as captured by Twitter account @iMiaSanMia

Source: https://www.bavarianfootballworks.com/2023/5/28/23737030/bayern-munich-fc-koln-bundesliga-hansi-flick-congratulations-borussia-dortmund-musiala-kahn-brazzo

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May 28, 2023, 03:22:48 AM
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Dortmund have worked hard, I'm not saying they failed to work hard. But indeed the game against Mainz is indeed difficult. Actually, what I consider careless is that Munich they failed against Leipzig and that gives Dortmund hope of winning. With equal points they failed to win.

If I'm not mistaken, they have gone twelve years without a Bundesliga champion. Next year might be their best chance if their best players don't leave much, maybe they can compete again. But there are many rumors that many players will leave.
I think fatal mistake made by Dortmund, one step closer become the champion why have failure and conceded two goals early against Mainz in the front of their fans most disappointed. Big dreaming almost come true with 12 years without winning Bundesliga but fatal mistake on the last games give chance for Bayern continues their dominance in Bundesliga become 13 years in a row. Lets waiting with the next season and have any miracle for Dortmund winning Bundesliga trophies after waiting for long term.

This season, Dortmund has many chance leaded standings position but finally they can't consistent how to get great opportunity become the champion and congrats for Bayern Munich are consistent teams and have winning mentality exactly on crucial match.

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May 28, 2023, 04:37:56 AM
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Dortmund bottled their chance to win the league, when you are competing against a top team like Bayern Munich you have to stay consistent and focus until the end of the race but Dortmund failed to stay consistent and resilient and now have lost the title to Bayern Munich narrowly the same thing happened to Arsenal this season how they failed to maintain consistency and bottled the title, this is definitely not the kind of fairy ending they would have expected.

I won't say that the performance of the Dortmund team was not there. The team continued to perform very consistently. This is why they managed to occupy the top spot in the table. But their performance against Mainz was strange. I don't see any similarity between the performance of this match and the performance of Dortmund in the past matches. They played very badly in the first half. and conceded 2 goals. Despite a somewhat steady performance in the second half. It is much more difficult to win the match after going down by 2 goals. And Dortmund didn't even win the match. As a result, the Bayern Munich team is the champion this season as well.

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May 28, 2023, 04:56:50 AM
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It is much more difficult to win the match after going down by 2 goals. And Dortmund didn't even win the match. As a result, the Bayern Munich team is the champion this season as well.
I saw somewhere that the game between Dortmund and Mainz looked like some serious match fixing by the lovers of Tuchel in Dortmund, to help him save his name this season which has been very disappointing for him up until the point of winning the Bundesliga. Tuchel was sacked from Chelsea, then joined Bayern and they were knocked out of the Champions league by Manchester, it would have been really terrible for them not to win the Bundesliga. I am not saying I completely believe in the match fixing, but it is very possible still that that is what has happened. Congratulations to Bayern and Tuchel all the same.

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May 28, 2023, 05:04:00 AM
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It is much more difficult to win the match after going down by 2 goals. And Dortmund didn't even win the match. As a result, the Bayern Munich team is the champion this season as well.
I saw somewhere that the game between Dortmund and Mainz looked like some serious match fixing by the lovers of Tuchel in Dortmund, to help him save his name this season which has been very disappointing for him up until the point of winning the Bundesliga. Tuchel was sacked from Chelsea, then joined Bayern and they were knocked out of the Champions league by Manchester, it would have been really terrible for them not to win the Bundesliga. I am not saying I completely believe in the match fixing, but it is very possible still that that is what has happened. Congratulations to Bayern and Tuchel all the same.

I also think there is a fixing in this match. But I didn't talk about it because many people would call me stupid or abuse me. The main reason I think this match is fixed is because I have seen Dortmund's performance in the last 4-5 matches. But in this match, their performance was the weakest. The players looked like they didn't know what to do.
Dortmund's past record against Mainz is very good. Dortmund have won their last 4 matches against Mainz. And in such an important match they will perform badly and draw, I can't accept that.

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May 28, 2023, 05:25:47 AM
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Dortmund is always become a bottle club. I saw that how bad the performance from dortmund against mainz. It's caused by dortmund must be losing against mainz 2-0.
It's very difficult for dortmund even to make the situation to be drawn. bayern was taking its 11th trophies in the bundesliga. I saw that there have been so many fans in the signal iduna park were crying caused by their favorite club was not even able to take the trophy.
I guess there are so many people feel disappointed with it. Im also feeling the same like those.

Congratulation for bayern by taking the trophy from dortmund. Bayern was lucky enough caused by koln has performed so badly.
It's a very disappointed result for dortmund. I have no word to describe but dortmund performs so badly against mainz.

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Dortmund bottled their chance to win the league, when you are competing against a top team like Bayern Munich you have to stay consistent and focus until the end of the race but Dortmund failed to stay consistent and resilient and now have lost the title to Bayern Munich narrowly the same thing happened to Arsenal this season how they failed to maintain consistency and bottled the title, this is definitely not the kind of fairy ending they would have expected.

Borussia Dortmund lost the title in their home match, it was truly a tragedy. We watched an excellent audience show before the game. It should be said that they got the support of the audience behind them until the end, but ironically they drew 2-2 and had to watch Bayern Munich reach the championship in their own field.

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Dortmund bottled their chance to win the league, when you are competing against a top team like Bayern Munich you have to stay consistent and focus until the end of the race but Dortmund failed to stay consistent and resilient and now have lost the title to Bayern Munich narrowly the same thing happened to Arsenal this season how they failed to maintain consistency and bottled the title, this is definitely not the kind of fairy ending they would have expected.

Borussia Dortmund lost the title in their home match, it was truly a tragedy. We watched an excellent audience show before the game. It should be said that they got the support of the audience behind them until the end, but ironically they drew 2-2 and had to watch Bayern Munich reach the championship in their own field.
As happy as Bayern Munich securing the title, I feel worse than Dortmund not securing the title. The team would have been able to secure the title if Dortmund had won the last match. But unfortunately they failed to do so.

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May 28, 2023, 05:56:07 AM
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Dortmund bottled their chance to win the league, when you are competing against a top team like Bayern Munich you have to stay consistent and focus until the end of the race but Dortmund failed to stay consistent and resilient and now have lost the title to Bayern Munich narrowly the same thing happened to Arsenal this season how they failed to maintain consistency and bottled the title, this is definitely not the kind of fairy ending they would have expected.

Borussia Dortmund lost the title in their home match, it was truly a tragedy. We watched an excellent audience show before the game. It should be said that they got the support of the audience behind them until the end, but ironically they drew 2-2 and had to watch Bayern Munich reach the championship in their own field.
As happy as Bayern Munich securing the title, I feel worse than Dortmund not securing the title. The team would have been able to secure the title if Dortmund had won the last match. But unfortunately they failed to do so.
Musiala scored the goal that shattered Borussia Dortmund's dreams and Bayern became champions again. This is where the importance of big derbies comes into play. If Borussia Dortmund had won Der Klassiker, they would have won the championship with the advantage of average, but when Bayern won the games and gained the advantage, they became the champion with the advantage of average. In fact, Dortmund gave the title with their own hands. What a tragic ending!

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May 28, 2023, 06:16:18 AM
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I don’t know if such Bayern deserve to be a champion, but the thing is that everything depended on Dortmund, if they couldn’t beat an unmotivated opponent in the last, decisive match, then probably everything ended logically, the champion should win in
decisive match.

Exactly!
Dortmund had every chance to win this league and they blew it. This was the perfect fairy tail ending. The perfect way to make their fans happy. Leipzig handed the league to Dortmund on a platter when they won Bayern Munich. All Dortmund needed to do was win the final match in front of thousands of their fans.
Dortmund probably has the best fanbase in Europe, they had no reason not to win this match because their fans were solidly behind them. In that kind of atmosphere when everything is on the line, thy had no excuse whatsoever.

Truth Dortmund nothing winning the league today was their own fault because they had everything set and the opportunity was even there for them since the final game was in their home in front of their fans but they lost the golden opportunity with a poor performance against Mainz a very big disappointment for a team who is yet to win the league for ten seasons now. The only reason they can give for conceding two goals before coming back to equalize is lack of seriousness in the game nothing else because truthfully their fans was already rejoicing before the game which was another thing that should have motivated them to get a cool winning in their home ground but unfortunately for them they missed the golden opportunity and Bayern Munich recorded their 11th consecutive winning in a roll.
After comfortably beating their opponents last weekend to win by 4:1 to top of the league standings because Bayern Munich had already lost in their own game, many people were expecting Borussia Dortmund to end Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga and win the title that's eluded them since 2012.
Dortmund were playing at home so it was almost certain that with the support of their home fans they're gonna beat Mainz but little did everyone know that they'll even had to fight back from two goals down to draw the game. The pain that comes with today's failure to win the Bundesliga title won't be forgotten anytime soon by Dortmund fans
The truth is that I do not feel for Dortmund despite being a supporter of the underdogs, they seem not ready to win and it blew in their face. It was Bayern that I was criticizing yesterday earlier before the matches, not knowing that Dortmund would also disappoint itself. Well, the deed is done, they have to move past it, and another lesson has been learned that they needed to prepare better when matches are at a crucial stage like that so that they could get the trophy lifted after more than a decade.

I simply don't know what is wrong with some clubs, it should have been a do-or-die affair for them as they've really tried, they now messed up with the last match.

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May 28, 2023, 06:36:41 AM
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Thats what happens when you celebrate too early, they did this to themselves I think.

As a long time Dortmund fan I can't express how disappointed I am about this match yesterday. So much dominance and unable to score for 75 minutes. They had like 70% possession over the match, 3x shots and yet nothing.

I guess planing the championship party in advance and also reporting about it was not the best idea.
Now the undeserving Bayern "fans" that left the stadium 15min before the end against Leipzig can celebrate whil the loyal BVB supporters can cry. Guess the BVB stock tomorrow will drop quite a bit as well, good job BVB.

Not only did they mess up, Bayern scored short before the end to seal the deal, what an irony.

Thumbs down.

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Dortmund bottled their chance to win the league, when you are competing against a top team like Bayern Munich you have to stay consistent and focus until the end of the race but Dortmund failed to stay consistent and resilient and now have lost the title to Bayern Munich narrowly the same thing happened to Arsenal this season how they failed to maintain consistency and bottled the title, this is definitely not the kind of fairy ending they would have expected.
I am even surprised that despite playing at home which could have been a big advantage for Dortmund by defeating Mainz convincingly a club who lost four of their last matches unfortunately blew up that chance by playing a 2-2 draw at home thus allowing Bayern Munich that had an abysmal performance so far this season to win the league trophy, they gifted Bayern's 11th Bundesliga in a row,  it is absolutely a big disappointment to the home fans who supported the team passionately, Dortmund just like Arsenal threw away a big opportunity to win a trophy at the expense the big European money spender clubs like Man City and Bayern Munich.

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I saw that the Dortmund supporters were very disappointed with the results of this match. Even at the end of the match, the coach and a number of players and fans were sobbing, this was really very touching, I was even moved to see the video footage circulating on social media.

Indeed, Bayern Munich got lucky in this last match because Mainz was able to hold Dortmund and Bayern were able to beat Koln. Everyone on social media is comparing Dortmund fate to Arsenal this season.


Everybody were sad because the title is almost in their hand but Dortmund were failed to win from Mainz which is on the paper the strength is below to them and Dortmund have to wait for 10 years to reach this moment because they were never been so close with the title before so it's normal if the players and the fans feeling dissapoint to this result and i think it's about the mentally and luck because Dortmund had good chances to win the match especially after they got penalty kick in the first half but in fact Haller was failed to scored and this result is very hurt for Dortmund and i am sure it won't be easy to forget it

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May 28, 2023, 07:09:06 AM
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Thats what happens when you celebrate too early, they did this to themselves I think.

As a long time Dortmund fan I can't express how disappointed I am about this match yesterday. So much dominance and unable to score for 75 minutes. They had like 70% possession over the match, 3x shots and yet nothing.

I guess planing the championship party in advance and also reporting about it was not the best idea.
Now the undeserving Bayern "fans" that left the stadium 15min before the end against Leipzig can celebrate whil the loyal BVB supporters can cry. Guess the BVB stock tomorrow will drop quite a bit as well, good job BVB.

Not only did they mess up, Bayern scored short before the end to seal the deal, what an irony.

Thumbs down.

I agree, don't celebrate too early if you can't deliver - Dortmund totally deserved to lose this championship and I am so glad to not have bet any money on the games yesterday. Most of my friends told me that it's a done deal and there is no way for BVB to not become champions. Being a bit more sceptical helped me to avoid a loss yesterday. It was definitely a very interesting last day and that is what it's all about for the fans. On paper BVB should have won easily against Mainz, same goes for Bayern vs Köln. It was kind of clear that Bayern wasn't going to lose and everything was in the hand from Dortmund to make it work. Being decided on the goal difference in the end is a bit sad, but also deserved for Bayern after managing to score the goal in 89th minute. At least it's not getting too dull in the Bundesliga with Bayern winning so many times in a row the championship several games before the end of the season.    
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I saw that the Dortmund supporters were very disappointed with the results of this match. Even at the end of the match, the coach and a number of players and fans were sobbing, this was really very touching, I was even moved to see the video footage circulating on social media.

Indeed, Bayern Munich got lucky in this last match because Mainz was able to hold Dortmund and Bayern were able to beat Koln. Everyone on social media is comparing Dortmund fate to Arsenal this season.


Everybody were sad because the title is almost in their hand but Dortmund were failed to win from Mainz which is on the paper the strength is below to them and Dortmund have to wait for 10 years to reach this moment because they were never been so close with the title before so it's normal if the players and the fans feeling dissapoint to this result and i think it's about the mentally and luck because Dortmund had good chances to win the match especially after they got penalty kick in the first half but in fact Haller was failed to scored and this result is very hurt for Dortmund and i am sure it won't be easy to forget it
It was so unexpected and emotional on my side, I was even more sad than I should be and then I had to put myself in the shoes of the players and fans and then I became more sad. The deed has already been done, they should put themselves together and wait for next season to try their luck again.
Comparing Dortmund and Arsenal is an understatement or under comparison, Dortmund case is worse than Arsenal. Assuming Arsenal's opportunity was at the last match, they wouldn't have missed it.

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May 28, 2023, 07:42:15 AM
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Haller, haller. This guy has become the worst dream for dortmund. He was not able executing the penalty. Dortmund might be able winning the game against mainz if haller was doing a proper execution for the penalty but he was giving bayerna chance to win the game.
Haller is a stupid player and he must be sacked from the club. Anyone was tagging haller as the main cause for dortmund to lose its trophy against bayern.
It's unacceptable when he was missing the penalty in the most important match. he was making 1 season becomes useless just because a single match. Bayern was winning bundesliga again right now.
Stupid players owned by dortmund must be sold in summer. Haller shall be included in the list too.

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Haller, haller. This guy has become the worst dream for dortmund. He was not able executing the penalty. Dortmund might be able winning the game against mainz if haller was doing a proper execution for the penalty but he was giving bayerna chance to win the game.
Haller is a stupid player and he must be sacked from the club. Anyone was tagging haller as the main cause for dortmund to lose its trophy against bayern.
It's unacceptable when he was missing the penalty in the most important match. he was making 1 season becomes useless just because a single match. Bayern was winning bundesliga again right now.
Stupid players owned by dortmund must be sold in summer. Haller shall be included in the list too.
not only because of a mistake he was considered a stupid player, Haller has become Dortmund's mainstay this season.
this failure is a team's fault, I can't think logically here, either Dortmund doesn't have the mentality to win or is there an arrangement in football that we don't know, I don't believe in anything anymore, I really hope Dortmund will win this game and became champion and even I bet a lot for their victory but in fact I was very disappointed and I can't that think this is logical.
Even so, I don't think it's Haller's fault that he failed to execute the penalty.

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I saw that the Dortmund supporters were very disappointed with the results of this match. Even at the end of the match, the coach and a number of players and fans were sobbing, this was really very touching, I was even moved to see the video footage circulating on social media.

Indeed, Bayern Munich got lucky in this last match because Mainz was able to hold Dortmund and Bayern were able to beat Koln. Everyone on social media is comparing Dortmund fate to Arsenal this season.
Everybody were sad because the title is almost in their hand but Dortmund were failed to win from Mainz which is on the paper the strength is below to them and Dortmund have to wait for 10 years to reach this moment because they were never been so close with the title before so it's normal if the players and the fans feeling dissapoint to this result and i think it's about the mentally and luck because Dortmund had good chances to win the match especially after they got penalty kick in the first half but in fact Haller was failed to scored and this result is very hurt for Dortmund and i am sure it won't be easy to forget it

Dortmund's defeat saddened everyone at the same time. Every season in the Bundesliga we see Bayern Munich as the champion. One team continues to dominate the Bundesliga every season. And no other team has been able to break Munich's dominance. Dortmund's chances of winning the title were due to Munich's erratic performance this season. Dortmund would be champions if they beat Mainz. Dortmund's poor performance in such an important match disappointed everyone.

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May 28, 2023, 08:17:52 AM
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Haller, haller. This guy has become the worst dream for dortmund. He was not able executing the penalty. Dortmund might be able winning the game against mainz if haller was doing a proper execution for the penalty but he was giving bayerna chance to win the game.
Haller is a stupid player and he must be sacked from the club. Anyone was tagging haller as the main cause for dortmund to lose its trophy against bayern.
It's unacceptable when he was missing the penalty in the most important match. he was making 1 season becomes useless just because a single match. Bayern was winning bundesliga again right now.
Stupid players owned by dortmund must be sold in summer. Haller shall be included in the list too.
not only because of a mistake he was considered a stupid player, Haller has become Dortmund's mainstay this season.
this failure is a team's fault, I can't think logically here, either Dortmund doesn't have the mentality to win or is there an arrangement in football that we don't know, I don't believe in anything anymore, I really hope Dortmund will win this game and became champion and even I bet a lot for their victory but in fact I was very disappointed and I can't that think this is logical.
Even so, I don't think it's Haller's fault that he failed to execute the penalty.
You are right it was a team error, we can't blame just one player. This way if Borussia Dortmund can create more than 2 goals without penalties or they don't concede, then they will still win the match. But the fact is that they had to be 2 goals behind and that made them fail to become champions this season. It really hurts that their struggle had to be stopped by the last 1 match and it hurts even more that they have the same points and only lost to goal productivity.

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