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June 08, 2023, 06:35:49 PM
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I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at  least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.
Why do you think that Dortmund has not that chance again to win the German League Title next year.
They getting better and better and every year they getting closer to Bayern Munich, and with Leipzig and Union Berlin there are now 2 more Teams for fight the Title.
Bayern Munich caused the problem themselves with kicking there coach out in an important time they have got a lot of important games.
We could see a totally different ranking next year, you never know, I don't really think Union Berling will be as strong as they were this season, we all saw their performance drop in the last matches of the league, I would count them out of the race of Bundesliga from now, they probably going to end up out of the top 4.

I think it's too much if Dortmund doesn't have the chance to win the Bundesliga title for the next 5 years even though indeed, Bayern Munich's dominance is very long because Bayern Munich has won the Bundesliga title for 11 consecutive seasons. But even so, I think Dortmund must remain optimistic in order to break Bayern Munich's domination of the Bundesliga title. Because after all, Dortmund is the only consistent rival team to challenge for the Bundesliga title and of course that will be a big hope for Dortmund.

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June 08, 2023, 06:55:00 PM
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I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at  least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.
Why do you think that Dortmund has not that chance again to win the German League Title next year.
They getting better and better and every year they getting closer to Bayern Munich, and with Leipzig and Union Berlin there are now 2 more Teams for fight the Title.
Bayern Munich caused the problem themselves with kicking there coach out in an important time they have got a lot of important games.
We could see a totally different ranking next year, you never know, I don't really think Union Berling will be as strong as they were this season, we all saw their performance drop in the last matches of the league, I would count them out of the race of Bundesliga from now, they probably going to end up out of the top 4.
Union in the last few seasons have been quite good but on the other hand now of course they have to realize that the pressure is getting bigger and bigger for them, especially with a lot of current schedules, especially being in the big Champions competition, which is a first for them, they will definitely make this be different.
it would be great if they could still maintain conditions like this season even though they couldn't compete for better conditions but bothering big clubs and being in the top 4 is already a good achievement for them.

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June 08, 2023, 07:24:56 PM
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But sometimes that's the case, there are even some talented players who have lost their performance after leaving Dortmund at their new club, sometimes I wonder what caused these very good players to experience this. Could it be because he doesn't fit in with his teammates or does he really not suit his new coach's coaching style? Well, it seems like fate doesn't line up with careers.

There are certainly several factors that lead to a drop in performance. Problems with the team or the coach, as you have already written. Maybe you do not feel comfortable in the city. The family is not happy at the new place. The structure in the club is not what you have expected. Just like it is in real life. This can also happen to non-footballers when they change a job.
This reason sounds quite reasonable and it seems that it will be difficult for any player if they don't socialize with their surroundings. Football playing is also a profession and it is certainly not easy to adapt to the culture of a different country when pursuing a career at a new club. Sometimes language problems are also often an obstacle because when players have difficulty communicating with colleagues or coaches it can become a misunderstanding on the field so that it will be difficult for these players to develop.
But for this problem it seems that new players don't have to feel pressured because of course even though the language is different and requires adaptation to the environment they will definitely not be alone and will definitely bring in a linguist or anyone they trust to educate them to adapt to the language of the country.
For me, the decreased performance of new players who have just joined other clubs, for example joining the Borussia dortmund clan, will certainly experience a long adaptation, so it takes a little time to get used to joining this club.

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June 08, 2023, 07:36:41 PM
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I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at  least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.

It is really difficult to predict the next five years already now. But I can agree with you on the point that there is a much harder season waiting for Dortmund next time. The reason why I think like this is that Dortmund might not get this much lucky about maintaining their title chance until the final moments of the season.

Because Bayern Munich were so much inconsistent this season which helped Dortmund stay right behind them. Even this situation couldn't help Dortmund win the title after a ten-season break. From now on I will be expecting to see a stronger Bayern Munich so Dortmund's job will be harder as a result. Tuchel didn't have much time to implement his plans as he was brought quite late in the season.

But as of the beginning of next season I'm expecting to watch a much better team. They would start with signing a top striker this summer of course to solve the most of their issues.

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June 08, 2023, 07:58:44 PM
Last edit: June 08, 2023, 11:30:52 PM by Leviathan.007
 #34725

Union Berlin was my favorite team this season and I was even hoping to see them at the top of the table and racing with Bayern Munich until last week when saw them having a bad performance because of having not enough potential for the rest of the season.
I think Union Berlin could have much better transfers and they could hire better players to help them in this situation.



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2021%E2%80%9322_1._FC_Union_Berlin_season#Transfers

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June 08, 2023, 08:16:33 PM
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Moreover, when it comes to adapting to a new environment with all its circumstances, people will vary in their ability to accept it. Some can adapt quickly and easily, while others may struggle and find it difficult to adapt. However, in the case of this profession, one must inevitably be able to adapt quickly to everything, as the consequence of failing to do so would result in a decline in performance and have an impact on others.
I think this adaptation is something that doesn't need to be discussed because indeed every player who is in a new team with different environmental conditions certainly has to be smarter to adapt so he can immediately show the performance he already had when he was still in the old team. Because usually the recruitment or purchase of new players by a team is due to considerations of achievement and performance which are still good enough so that these players can be well received by the squad in the team.

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June 08, 2023, 09:15:27 PM
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I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at  least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.
Borussia Dortmund came really close this season in the race for the title, they pushed Bayern Munich until the end and didn't bow down easily. They might not be champions but I commend their efforts, performance and good mentality. If they can do the same next season, with a little luck they might get a chance to win the league.
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Union Berlin was mnt favorite team this season and I was even hoping to see them at the top of the table and racing with Bayern Munich until last week when saw them having a bad performance because of having not enough potential for the rest of the season.
I think Union Berlin could have much better transfers and they could hire better players to help them in this situation.



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at the beginning of the season I saw Union Berlin seriously and looked very confident to win every match but it was a little strange when entering the middle of the season Union Berlin experienced a gradual decrease in performance until it was close to the end of the season.
if I look at the decline in the performance of the Union players it seems that there is a bit of a problem in a bad defense. Union Berlin's hope to keep performing well in the summer games must at least have a more reliable transfer of players.

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June 08, 2023, 09:37:53 PM
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For next season, even though they are quite brilliant in the playoffs this time, that is not a guarantee either. At the moment Stuttgart will only be a club that is at the bottom of the table but they are aware of that but of course with them continuing to be in the bundesliga it is already very good for them.
I actually saw Darmstadt condition from the previous season but indeed towards the end of the season they always stumbled and this season they were finally able to penetrate the highest caste after waiting for a long time to return to this caste.
Indeed, Stuttgart will certainly not be able to meet our expectations to be able to perform better next season, even for mid-table positions, they will definitely have difficulties. I think it is true that they are still the bottom team in the standings, but at least they have to change their game a little so they can finish in a better position. Talking about Damstadt I haven't heard of this team before and if they have an unusual process to the bundesliga, they might be a pretty tough challenger next season, only if Damstadt can be consistent in their matches.
They have to try again now because it's a good chance to try again next season but if they still can't be there then maybe something like Hertha this season will still happen for Stuttgart.
As for Darmstadt, actually in the last 2 seasons I have always taken the time to watch Bundesliga 2 and indeed their performance is not bad even with the fairly tight level of competition there. but their problem last season was they failed to be consistent actually this season also they still have the same problem it's just that this season is a little bit better.

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June 08, 2023, 09:40:21 PM
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I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at  least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.
Borussia Dortmund came really close this season in the race for the title, they pushed Bayern Munich until the end and didn't bow down easily. They might not be champions but I commend their efforts, performance and good mentality. If they can do the same next season, with a little luck they might get a chance to win the league.

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June 08, 2023, 09:47:09 PM
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I already said this before, but i really think that the chances of Borussia Dortmund to become Bundesliga champions this year were extremely high and i don't think that they will get such a big chance again in the next 5 years or so. As you already said, Bayern Munich is by far the strongest team of the Bundesliga and if they are able to at  least reach like 85% of their maximum performance level, then they will win the Bundesliga no matter what the other clubs are doing. This year this was not the case and still Dortmund was not able to profit from that. Now Bayern should be alarmed again and take the next season more serious.
Borussia Dortmund came really close this season in the race for the title, they pushed Bayern Munich until the end and didn't bow down easily. They might not be champions but I commend their efforts, performance and good mentality. If they can do the same next season, with a little luck they might get a chance to win the league.
Borussia Dortmund's chance of lifting the German Bundesliga title since 2012 isn't gonna come anytime soon and I said that after considering how they squandered their chance on the of last day of the just concluded German Bundesliga season.
Bayern Munich for sure are gonna get reinforced for the challenges of the new seasons and they're already my favorites to retain the title again

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June 08, 2023, 10:01:32 PM
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Borussia Dortmund's chance of lifting the German Bundesliga title since 2012 isn't gonna come anytime soon and I said that after considering how they squandered their chance on the of last day of the just concluded German Bundesliga season.
Bayern Munich for sure are gonna get reinforced for the challenges of the new seasons and they're already my favorites to retain the title again
History has proven that they are not too strong in every season because they continue to sell their star players so that their strength next season will not be able to provide much resistance in the competition for the title. In other words, Dortmund main business is to produce star players and sell them to other clubs, even to bayern munich, so there is no doubt at all that dortmund has to fast for the bundesliga trophy for a long time.

Next season Bayern Munich will make changes to their squad, especially Bayern Munich's management will buy good quality players to support their strength in the bundesliga. Tuchel is a great coach. I think he will be able to bring Bayern Munich to become a strong candidate to win the Bundesliga trophy again and it is unlikely for other teams to break Bayern Munich dominance.

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June 08, 2023, 10:33:30 PM
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Bellingham is about to join Real Madrid by the end of the month and Dortmund are making a lot of money in this deal. Even though they are about to lose maybe their best player in the team I still don't think this will change things deeply for them. Because Dortmund have already been used to playing like this. They still find a way to be the second biggest team in the Bundesliga.

After Bellingham leaves I'm pretty sure Dortmund will make their attempts on a new young player who is a world star candidate. This is what Dortmund are really good at for many years. Of course this was the biggest chance Dortmund had for the league title recently but even this didn't end well. They really don't have any winner mentality.  Sad

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June 08, 2023, 11:24:33 PM
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It gets annoying when we see Bayern Munich winning the league for another season in Germany and they are the only teams that can win the league while other teams can't even race with them. However, this time Dortmund had a good chance to even win the title until the last minute and they failed because the reason Dortmund lost the league against Bayern Munich is usually that they can't keep the useful players they had like Haaland and Jude Bellingham.

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June 09, 2023, 12:02:04 AM
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It gets annoying when we see Bayern Munich winning the league for another season in Germany and they are the only teams that can win the league while other teams can't even race with them. However, this time Dortmund had a good chance to even win the title until the last minute and they failed because the reason Dortmund lost the league against Bayern Munich is usually that they can't keep the useful players they had like Haaland and Jude Bellingham.

That's right but we should agree that the reason why Dortmund was very close from getting the title is not because they are good enough but because Bayern Munich wae very bad this season, i believe Bayern will be able to hold the trophy for very longer time because the competition in the bundesliga liga is easy for them

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June 09, 2023, 12:18:29 AM
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Why do you think that Dortmund has not that chance again to win the German League Title next year.
They getting better and better and every year they getting closer to Bayern Munich, and with Leipzig and Union Berlin there are now 2 more Teams for fight the Title.
Bayern Munich caused the problem themselves with kicking there coach out in an important time they have got a lot of important games.

Of course Borussia Dortmund has the chance again next year again to become Bundesliga Champion, just like every other team of the league has the chance to win it. It is also obvious that for at least 15 teams those chances are only of theoretical nature and i also think that in the next years it will be harder for Dortmund to get a really good chance to win the title. This year Bayern Munich did not play well at all over a pretty long period of time. This happens maybe twice in every ten years so i doubt that this will happen again in the next season.

And the truth is that if Bayern is delivering, then there is nothing that Dortmund or any other club could do to become Bundesliga Champion because Bayern is simply to strong.
I also don't think that Dortmund comes closer and closer in the last few years. Looking at the squads. Bayern is probably more far away in terms of overall quality that they ever were in the last 10 years. Now that Bellingham is gone, there is probably not a single player of Dortmunds squad, that would make it into the starting eleven of Bayern.
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June 09, 2023, 02:07:43 AM
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Of course Borussia Dortmund has the chance again next year again to become Bundesliga Champion, just like every other team of the league has the chance to win it.
This season, Dortmund got a great chance but throwing it away by themselves in the last match. They sold Haaland in the last season, Bellingham this season and what will they become in a new season?

Weaker or stronger, I don't know but my belief is they will become weaker. Bayern Munich after this chaotic season, will return with some players from the transfer market. Bayern Munich becomes stronger and Dortmund becomes weaker, it's simple speculation about a next season ending.

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This year Bayern Munich did not play well at all over a pretty long period of time. This happens maybe twice in every ten years so i doubt that this will happen again in the next season.
It happens with all teams because players have to get older and lose their best. The advantage of Bayern Munich in Bundesliga is they are too rich compares to other clubs, and they are able to renew their squad with rich budget quickly. Other clubs have to sell their best star players to Bayern Munich or let those players join Bayern as free agents.

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I also don't think that Dortmund comes closer and closer in the last few years. Looking at the squads. Bayern is probably more far away in terms of overall quality that they ever were in the last 10 years. Now that Bellingham is gone, there is probably not a single player of Dortmunds squad, that would make it into the starting eleven of Bayern.
Dortmund have to stop their transfer strategy to keep their best players that will help them to maintain strength to at least compete fairly with Bayern. In reality, they failed to keep their star players, sold them to Bayern or other big clubs and they only grew up young players. When their young players are matured to star players, they are more competitive against Bayern but it is not enough to win Bundesliga.
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June 09, 2023, 03:06:55 AM
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Borussia Dortmund came really close this season in the race for the title, they pushed Bayern Munich until the end and didn't bow down easily. They might not be champions but I commend their efforts, performance and good mentality. If they can do the same next season, with a little luck they might get a chance to win the league.

Only of dortmund will not be repeating the same mistake again. It has been very long since dortmund was winning its bundesliga trophy. Dortmund needs to rebuild its team again. Im still seeing so many weakness that owned by dortmund.
It's sometimes being so hard to win against the small club in the bundesliga. That's why im thinking of terzic must focus to rebuild its team especially in the attacking lines and defenders.

Dortmund has so many good midfielders but not for the defensive lines. It was always conceded so many goals. that was making me feel so bad to see that.

The defensive line must be changed as preparation for the upcoming season. it's become my main concern if i were terzic.
Try to learn from what happened in the past to make the club to be even better in the future.

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June 09, 2023, 03:31:40 AM
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I won't accept anything like a mistake winning or luck here, Bayern Munich might not be in their utmost feat but they deserve what they got, after all, they didn't get to the first 2 levels by chance before they eventually win the league among the 18 clubs who contested it. Bayern Munich is a strong name in Bundesliga and might retain this for a longer time, and even now, they are facing challenges, if not, the point they were supposed to gap their next opponent should be much. This is the same thing that cost them the Champions League, but let's be patient for Tuchel, though his first impressions are not good, I still believe in the club.

Besides, we should not be using the financial stand of a club to be judging all the time, maybe we can learn from Seria A this season, it's more about the coach and the team thereof. Once they are good and determined to play, then they can be so surprising.

Isn't it a bit too romantic to say it is more about the coach? I think it is a mixture of many things and the coach plays a big role. I doubt that Guardiola would have won the Premier League with Southampton or that Tuchel would win the Bundesliga with Augsburg. Money is a big factor 90% of the time domestically and from time to time you have some deviations where a club actually becomes a statistical outlier and wins something despite weaker financial resources. But generally speaking, money is important. Cut Bayern Munich's money in half and see how many of their players can be retained and then see whether they are going to win the Bundesliga.

I am only talking about the domestic competition here. Internationally we have seen that a club like PSG fails all the time, but domestically PSG is literally buying the Ligue 1 title. When Dortmund had Lewandowksi and was extremely successful, it was only a question of time until Bayern bought him. Players follow the money.

It is not necessary to seek out exceptions now as I am fully aware of that, but correlation between money and a team's success domestically is especially positive when the snowball already began to roll. It's not the same when you try to invest half a billion like Chelsea and hope you can beat Manchester City that season because they didn't invest that much. However, looking at spending over the course of a decade, you won't be surprised that Manchester City is leading the ranking alongside PSG with around a billion of investment. But in this case Manchester City has had a world class coach for a long time now and PSG didn't.

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June 09, 2023, 04:09:51 AM
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Borussia Dortmund came really close this season in the race for the title, they pushed Bayern Munich until the end and didn't bow down easily. They might not be champions but I commend their efforts, performance and good mentality. If they can do the same next season, with a little luck they might get a chance to win the league.
At the very least, the bundesliga was more entertaining and tense than in past events. Before the league ended, the Bavarians were crowned champions a long time ago, but this season is different; the final game determined the winner, and it was one of the most tense football campaigns I've seen in a long time. Borrusia Dortmund pulled a large competitive race for the bundesliga crown this season, Bayern Munich never relents as they push harder in dealing with their opponents, and Dortmund is no exception. I expects more important fights for the title next season.


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