Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

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We don't know what Edin Terzic's plan and Borussia Dortmund's management actually are by selling some of their best players, it could just be that the sale is because they want to replace them by buying even better players so they can bring Dortmund to win.
If we compare Dortmund with Bayern Munich this season, it seems that Dortmund have not been able to compete Bayern Munich.
But everything can turn around in an instant because in a football match we can't really predict exactly.

Dortmund is purely a business club and it's not surprising when they can develop young talents, so if there is an offer from a European team who wants to make up for it at a fantastic fee, Dortmund will let the player go. But indeed the competition between Dortmund and Bayern Munich is endless even though Dortmund always loses its talented players every season and I think it will continue to happen if Dortmund still uses its mindset to always sell the players needed by the team to win the Bundesliga title or other competitions.

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[nara1892]

Dortmund made a big mistake by letting such a player go. If they add some players like Arling Haaland to the team then the team will make a big impact in the Bundesliga next season. Because there are no special players in the Bayern Munich team.

Maybe you are the only one who thinks there are no special players in the Bayern Munich team, because maybe you don't really know the players in the Bayern Munich team. It's true that many of the players who used to come from Dortmund were good when they were in other teams so the price was also quite expensive because Dortmund did sell players with potential and didn't often sell players whose potential was still lacking. I also don't really understand the pace that Dortmund has taken in terms of selling and retaining their players.

Bayern Munich doesn't seem to have any special players, but from what I can see their squad is evenly distributed and also they rely on team play rather than individual play, so it makes them seem like they don't have any special players.
Borussia Dortmund always sells star players, many players have left for other teams just because they want to get big profits. Erling Haaland is one of the young players they have managed to create and now he is making it big at Manchester City.

[crunck]

We don't know what Edin Terzic's plan and Borussia Dortmund's management actually are by selling some of their best players, it could just be that the sale is because they want to replace them by buying even better players so they can bring Dortmund to win.
If we compare Dortmund with Bayern Munich this season, it seems that Dortmund have not been able to compete Bayern Munich.
But everything can turn around in an instant because in a football match we can't really predict exactly.

Dortmund is purely a business club and it's not surprising when they can develop young talents, so if there is an offer from a European team who wants to make up for it at a fantastic fee, Dortmund will let the player go. But indeed the competition between Dortmund and Bayern Munich is endless even though Dortmund always loses its talented players every season and I think it will continue to happen if Dortmund still uses its mindset to always sell the players needed by the team to win the Bundesliga title or other competitions.

I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

[snipie]

I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

[Naficopa]

I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

The Dortmund team will be stronger next season. Because this season the Dortmund team has performed exceptionally well and the team has unfortunately lost at the end. Hopefully there will be no such disappointing performances in the next season.

[Jackl87]

Bayern Munich doesn't seem to have any special players, but from what I can see their squad is evenly distributed and also they rely on team play rather than individual play, so it makes them seem like they don't have any special players.
Borussia Dortmund always sells star players, many players have left for other teams just because they want to get big profits. Erling Haaland is one of the young players they have managed to create and now he is making it big at Manchester City.

I disagree that Bayern Munich does not have special players. They have De Ligt, Alphonso Davies, Kimmich, Sane and Musiala for example. All of them have a market value of at least 60 Million €. So if those are not special or world class players, then i don't know. Maybe it is true that Bayern Munich does not have that single player stand is standing above everyone else like Dortmund had it in the last few years with Haaland and Bellingham, but that is not because Bayern Munich does not have great player it is because Bayern has many great players. Looking at the current squad of Dortmund without Bellingham i don't see a single Dortmund player that would make it into the starting 11 of Bayern.

[Fesatmas]

Dortmund is purely a business club and it's not surprising when they can develop young talents, so if there is an offer from a European team who wants to make up for it at a fantastic fee, Dortmund will let the player go. But indeed the competition between Dortmund and Bayern Munich is endless even though Dortmund always loses its talented players every season and I think it will continue to happen if Dortmund still uses its mindset to always sell the players needed by the team to win the Bundesliga title or other competitions.

Dortmund is like a temporary place for young players to develop their talents, then after that, they will leave. Selling several of its star players at fantastic prices. The management said this was a compulsion that was issued in order to save the team's finances. In my opinion, this is good and there is nothing wrong because they will get a lot of benefits from this decision, but on the other hand, this habit will make it difficult for them to compete with other teams, especially with Bayern Munich. Because this will cause them to experience fluctuating performance every season. I hope one day Dortmund can change their transfer policy, and keep the talented players they have because after all this is in the interests of the team.

[Altryist]

Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

Because they never stop, after selling a player they know who to replace him and how to make him a star, that top clubs want to buy. Dortmund is the kind of team where the players are always in the spotlight because everyone knows that this team knows how to find great players. The players also know this and try to show their best, because each of them has a chance to go to a big team and get a great contract.

[hahay]

Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

Because they never stop, after selling a player they know who to replace him and how to make him a star, that top clubs want to buy. Dortmund is the kind of team where the players are always in the spotlight because everyone knows that this team knows how to find great players. The players also know this and try to show their best, because each of them has a chance to go to a big team and get a great contract.

Thus, if there are Dortmund players who choose to be loyal to Dortmund for the long term and reject offers from other big clubs then that is the wrong choice. Sorry, an example like Marco Reus. Because after all, in the end it is difficult for these players to be able to win titles and or trophies, because Dortmund is not a team that focuses on winning titles. But yes, even though Dortmund only focus on producing great players and profits in sales but yes, when Dortmund has the chance to win the title then of course Dortmund will also try hard and the example is like this season for example.

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Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

Because they never stop, after selling a player they know who to replace him and how to make him a star, that top clubs want to buy. Dortmund is the kind of team where the players are always in the spotlight because everyone knows that this team knows how to find great players. The players also know this and try to show their best, because each of them has a chance to go to a big team and get a great contract.

yes, you are right. Dortmund always educates players to be stronger and have great performances.
therefore it is not surprising that the players sold from Dortmund always give good performance in other teams like Haaland. and on the one hand, of course, Dortmund will not be careless in selling the best players, but they have also planned which new players to buy to be able to bring Dortmund to be strong again.
so that in terms of this transfer, Dortmund has always planned what to do to welcome the new season later.

[Lafu]

Looking at the current squad of Dortmund without Bellingham i don't see a single Dortmund player that would make it into the starting 11 of Bayern.

Looks like you really dont know the Dortmund squad much as they have a lot of players that can play easy in the Bayern Munich team.
Youssoufa Moukoko , Gregor Kobel , Julian Brandt , Haller and a few more are would be fitting there.

when Dortmund has the chance to win the title then of course Dortmund will also try hard and the example is like this season for example.

This or season they was just really unlucky for take there chance to get the title.

[mv1986]

Looking at the current squad of Dortmund without Bellingham i don't see a single Dortmund player that would make it into the starting 11 of Bayern.

Looks like you really dont know the Dortmund squad much as they have a lot of players that can play easy in the Bayern Munich team.
Youssoufa Moukoko , Gregor Kobel , Julian Brandt , Haller and a few more are would be fitting there.

when Dortmund has the chance to win the title then of course Dortmund will also try hard and the example is like this season for example.

This or season they was just really unlucky for take there chance to get the title.

I am not sure whether I agree @Lafu

Moukoko still has a long way to go until he would be on the radar of Bayern Munich. As far as I know they haven't spent a second thinking about Moukoko as a potential transfer. Kobel could be a candidate as he is 25 and with 1.95m a lot taller than Sommer. That could make sense if Neuer doesn't get back to his former shape. Brandt is complicated, but in top shape it could be that he would have a chance. Haller, maybe right now because they don't have a really good striker, but that could change quickly. Haller wouldn't have a chance then.

Just my opinion

[Ratash]

In This season germany teams had a decent run in the european competitions bayern made it to the quarter finals losing only to the champion and europe most powerfull team, leverkusen team made it to the semi finals of the europa league and they lost with a tight score, even freiburg, union berlin leipzig and dortmund made it past the group stages in their own competitions it's no wonder bayern team won the bundesliga with high difficulty.

[rahmad2nd]

This is Borussia Dortmund's business style, this club can be said to rely on buying and selling players and so on every season. we can even review, almost every season they produce talented young players. Over the years, Dortmund has always been known as a pretty ideal club. they are able to excel and play attractive football as well as earn income from selling players without disturbing the solidity of the locker room.

Uniquely, the player's departure did not interfere with the team's material, in fact, Dotmund still finished in the top 4 of the Bundesliga regardless of his coach. currently, only Bellingham they released to Madrid. we don't know if other players will follow in Bellingham's footsteps. or, Dortmund will still hold it for the next season. at least, there is still Adeyemi, Youssoufa Maukoko, who has the potential to leave or be retained. in essence, Dormund had gained a huge advantage just letting Bellingham go. plus, their target is still achieved to finish in the top 4 of the Bundesliga. so, don't expect big if Dormund wins the Bundesliga trophy.

basically, if the Bundesliga wants to be like other leagues they have to change the 50+1 rule.

Over the years, we've seen Borussia Dortmund sell their most prized players to not just non German clubs but also to their major rival Bayern Munich and that's been their biggest problem and has also stopped them from winning the German league or doing well I Europe.
I think it's something that's very acceptable to the club's management as it been fetching them real gains. I think Bayern Munich are more taking advantage of the policy because it does make Borussia Dortmund less of a serious contender when compared to them

We can see Dortmund's history, they had triumphed in the early 2000s. however, it was hit by a financial crisis that nearly bankrupted the club in 2005. At the same time, Bayern Munich, as their rival, helped by providing loan funds. in short, Dortmund changed their business style. because, to overcome the club's finances must change its business strategy. and yep, as we see today. Dormund is a club that has given birth to many young talents. they are very adept at seeing young potential, to make it a star. after that, Dormund did not hesitate to let go of its players at a fantastic price. that is why, Dortmund did not target to win the Bundesliga trophy. even as you said, Dortmund did not hesitate to let go of their star players to their rivals. Basically, business is business. at least referring to some of the sources that I read, the German league ticket prices are the cheapest compared to other European leagues, not to mention the 50+1 rule which is burdensome while making the league not so competitive. that means, Dortmund can not only rely on ticket sales and sponsors. therefore, they are more interested in creating young stars, then releasing them at a fantastic price.

[crunck]

I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

Dortmund never makes any mistake in picking up young players. They are able to pick the perfect player. And that's why they are able to produce a star player almost every season. There are plenty of players in the Dortmund squad. They probably have 9 strikers. And their number of defenders is 13. And I think every player is being prepared for sale by the Dortmund management. Dortmund management will likely add several more young players to the team this season as well. And next season they will make money by selling 2/3 players at high prices.

[BitcoinAccepted]

In Dortmund they are still quite disappointed by the missed championship. If you were to look at the score during the winter break, it is already quite an achievement that Dortmund has come so close, because Bayern Munich was really a load of points ahead of Dortmund at the time. But Bayern Munich has also had one of its worst seasons in the club's existence. And if you still manage to become champion, then you also know how much less the competition is. I think Bayern will also win the title next season, but hopefully a lot easier.

[rendravolt]

In This season germany teams had a decent run in the european competitions bayern made it to the quarter finals losing only to the champion and europe most powerfull team, leverkusen team made it to the semi finals of the europa league and they lost with a tight score, even freiburg, union berlin leipzig and dortmund made it past the group stages in their own competitions it's no wonder bayern team won the bundesliga with high difficulty.

This season is indeed the busiest season for several bundesliga teams because they are much tougher to be able to compete for a better stage in European competition. I think this is the result of their many years of training and did not expect that there would be many representatives from Germany who made it through to at least the quarter-finals.

Apart from all that, I am very sure they will return to the same place or even more than that to continue to prove that German clubs are now not just "decoration" in European competition. Especially for Union Berlin we will see their first debut in the champions league next season and I hope Union Berlin can also focus on the bundesliga because playing in two different competitions will be very tiring.

[Zackgeno96]

This was a golden opportunity for Dortmund to become champions and they know that very well. If you have a good season and Bayern Munich is untouchable, then 2nd place is much easier to accept. That was definitely not the case now. Dortmund should have gotten more out of it, and they gave it away completely in the last game. Bayern also all the luck in the world, but in the end they won that match on their own. I also expect a very strong Bayern Munich next season.

[Sirait]

Dortmund is purely a business club and it's not surprising when they can develop young talents, so if there is an offer from a European team who wants to make up for it at a fantastic fee, Dortmund will let the player go. But indeed the competition between Dortmund and Bayern Munich is endless even though Dortmund always loses its talented players every season and I think it will continue to happen if Dortmund still uses its mindset to always sell the players needed by the team to win the Bundesliga title or other competitions.

I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

after last season dortmund got big money from selling haaland this season they got big money from selling bellingham and that's really amazing imo, rumors are circulating that dortmund is negotiating with a young juventus player (Nicolo Rovella) it looks like they're going to do a smooth player buying and selling business.

[Slow death]

This was a golden opportunity for Dortmund to become champions and they know that very well. If you have a good season and Bayern Munich is untouchable, then 2nd place is much easier to accept. That was definitely not the case now. Dortmund should have gotten more out of it, and they gave it away completely in the last game. Bayern also all the luck in the world, but in the end they won that match on their own. I also expect a very strong Bayern Munich next season.

last season was one of the few seasons in which bayern was very weak and depended on luck while dortmund had good players last season and as you said, dortmund wasted a great opportunity to become champions and i doubt very much that next season dortmund will have that same opportunity again, bayern will be stronger next season, that's because bayern always prepares for the champions league and therefore they are already much superior in the bundesliga, while dortmund will sell their best players and will get a lot of profit selling them

the business of selling good players in dortmund is such a good thing whether they win or not they always end up with big profits, maybe that's why dortmund doesn't have much motivation to fight for the title and settle for second place that it will still give them opportunity to play in the champions league and in the champions league they have chances to expose their players who are super gifted with great talent, in the bundesliga bayern is without competition every season and next season it will be the same thing: bayern will be champion again


things are already hectic, the teams have already started moving, bayern got Konrad Laimer, while bayern brings players dortmund sells its best players, this time it was jude bellingham sold to real madrid and from what i read in an article by ESPN:

How Bayern plan to pull away from Bundesliga rivals in '23-24