Germany League - Bundesliga Prediction Thread

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In This season germany teams had a decent run in the european competitions bayern made it to the quarter finals losing only to the champion and europe most powerfull team, leverkusen team made it to the semi finals of the europa league and they lost with a tight score, even freiburg, union berlin leipzig and dortmund made it past the group stages in their own competitions it's no wonder bayern team won the bundesliga with high difficulty.

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[rahmad2nd]

This is Borussia Dortmund's business style, this club can be said to rely on buying and selling players and so on every season. we can even review, almost every season they produce talented young players. Over the years, Dortmund has always been known as a pretty ideal club. they are able to excel and play attractive football as well as earn income from selling players without disturbing the solidity of the locker room.

Uniquely, the player's departure did not interfere with the team's material, in fact, Dotmund still finished in the top 4 of the Bundesliga regardless of his coach. currently, only Bellingham they released to Madrid. we don't know if other players will follow in Bellingham's footsteps. or, Dortmund will still hold it for the next season. at least, there is still Adeyemi, Youssoufa Maukoko, who has the potential to leave or be retained. in essence, Dormund had gained a huge advantage just letting Bellingham go. plus, their target is still achieved to finish in the top 4 of the Bundesliga. so, don't expect big if Dormund wins the Bundesliga trophy.

basically, if the Bundesliga wants to be like other leagues they have to change the 50+1 rule.

Over the years, we've seen Borussia Dortmund sell their most prized players to not just non German clubs but also to their major rival Bayern Munich and that's been their biggest problem and has also stopped them from winning the German league or doing well I Europe.
I think it's something that's very acceptable to the club's management as it been fetching them real gains. I think Bayern Munich are more taking advantage of the policy because it does make Borussia Dortmund less of a serious contender when compared to them

We can see Dortmund's history, they had triumphed in the early 2000s. however, it was hit by a financial crisis that nearly bankrupted the club in 2005. At the same time, Bayern Munich, as their rival, helped by providing loan funds. in short, Dortmund changed their business style. because, to overcome the club's finances must change its business strategy. and yep, as we see today. Dormund is a club that has given birth to many young talents. they are very adept at seeing young potential, to make it a star. after that, Dormund did not hesitate to let go of its players at a fantastic price. that is why, Dortmund did not target to win the Bundesliga trophy. even as you said, Dortmund did not hesitate to let go of their star players to their rivals. Basically, business is business. at least referring to some of the sources that I read, the German league ticket prices are the cheapest compared to other European leagues, not to mention the 50+1 rule which is burdensome while making the league not so competitive. that means, Dortmund can not only rely on ticket sales and sponsors. therefore, they are more interested in creating young stars, then releasing them at a fantastic price.

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I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

Dortmund never makes any mistake in picking up young players. They are able to pick the perfect player. And that's why they are able to produce a star player almost every season. There are plenty of players in the Dortmund squad. They probably have 9 strikers. And their number of defenders is 13. And I think every player is being prepared for sale by the Dortmund management. Dortmund management will likely add several more young players to the team this season as well. And next season they will make money by selling 2/3 players at high prices.

[BitcoinAccepted]

In Dortmund they are still quite disappointed by the missed championship. If you were to look at the score during the winter break, it is already quite an achievement that Dortmund has come so close, because Bayern Munich was really a load of points ahead of Dortmund at the time. But Bayern Munich has also had one of its worst seasons in the club's existence. And if you still manage to become champion, then you also know how much less the competition is. I think Bayern will also win the title next season, but hopefully a lot easier.

[rendravolt]

In This season germany teams had a decent run in the european competitions bayern made it to the quarter finals losing only to the champion and europe most powerfull team, leverkusen team made it to the semi finals of the europa league and they lost with a tight score, even freiburg, union berlin leipzig and dortmund made it past the group stages in their own competitions it's no wonder bayern team won the bundesliga with high difficulty.

This season is indeed the busiest season for several bundesliga teams because they are much tougher to be able to compete for a better stage in European competition. I think this is the result of their many years of training and did not expect that there would be many representatives from Germany who made it through to at least the quarter-finals.

Apart from all that, I am very sure they will return to the same place or even more than that to continue to prove that German clubs are now not just "decoration" in European competition. Especially for Union Berlin we will see their first debut in the champions league next season and I hope Union Berlin can also focus on the bundesliga because playing in two different competitions will be very tiring.

[Zackgeno96]

This was a golden opportunity for Dortmund to become champions and they know that very well. If you have a good season and Bayern Munich is untouchable, then 2nd place is much easier to accept. That was definitely not the case now. Dortmund should have gotten more out of it, and they gave it away completely in the last game. Bayern also all the luck in the world, but in the end they won that match on their own. I also expect a very strong Bayern Munich next season.

[Sirait]

Dortmund is purely a business club and it's not surprising when they can develop young talents, so if there is an offer from a European team who wants to make up for it at a fantastic fee, Dortmund will let the player go. But indeed the competition between Dortmund and Bayern Munich is endless even though Dortmund always loses its talented players every season and I think it will continue to happen if Dortmund still uses its mindset to always sell the players needed by the team to win the Bundesliga title or other competitions.

I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

after last season dortmund got big money from selling haaland this season they got big money from selling bellingham and that's really amazing imo, rumors are circulating that dortmund is negotiating with a young juventus player (Nicolo Rovella) it looks like they're going to do a smooth player buying and selling business.

[Slow death]

This was a golden opportunity for Dortmund to become champions and they know that very well. If you have a good season and Bayern Munich is untouchable, then 2nd place is much easier to accept. That was definitely not the case now. Dortmund should have gotten more out of it, and they gave it away completely in the last game. Bayern also all the luck in the world, but in the end they won that match on their own. I also expect a very strong Bayern Munich next season.

last season was one of the few seasons in which bayern was very weak and depended on luck while dortmund had good players last season and as you said, dortmund wasted a great opportunity to become champions and i doubt very much that next season dortmund will have that same opportunity again, bayern will be stronger next season, that's because bayern always prepares for the champions league and therefore they are already much superior in the bundesliga, while dortmund will sell their best players and will get a lot of profit selling them

the business of selling good players in dortmund is such a good thing whether they win or not they always end up with big profits, maybe that's why dortmund doesn't have much motivation to fight for the title and settle for second place that it will still give them opportunity to play in the champions league and in the champions league they have chances to expose their players who are super gifted with great talent, in the bundesliga bayern is without competition every season and next season it will be the same thing: bayern will be champion again


things are already hectic, the teams have already started moving, bayern got Konrad Laimer, while bayern brings players dortmund sells its best players, this time it was jude bellingham sold to real madrid and from what i read in an article by ESPN:

How Bayern plan to pull away from Bundesliga rivals in '23-24

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I agree with you. Dortmund's main goal is to do business. They scout young talented players. And they develop players with experience. And sells players for a lot of money. And this is their main goal. The team is not aiming to win the Champions League or Bundesliga title. The club made a lot of money selling Haaland last season. They will likely trade Haller next season. This season Dortmund will probably add more talented young players to their squad.

Over the years that's what Dortmund always do and are excellent on it. So many players improved in Dortmund then moved to other top clubs for millions, making Dortmund richer and giving them funds to search for other players to start again.
Selling Haaland was quite interesting last year and people thought that Dortmund was doomed but they played very well and were able to almost get the first rank but they failed at the end.

They will never probably find Bayern this weak again. This season's championship loss clearly is fault of Terzic. If you don't go out with Marco Reus, the most experienced player of the last spade team and knows best what to do, you will be like this. Realizing his mistake, he took Reus into the game before the end of the first half, but the match was already 2-0. The team gave 11500 minutes to 6 players in the U23 status, which was in the squad and gave the chance to play regularly. I guess they will reap the fruits of this by selling Bellingham to Madrid for around 150m euros.

[Zackgeno96]

Bayern Munich has not had its best season, but this season you always have once every 10 years. Bayern has now had it once, so it can probably be over. I doubt whether the current coach is the best trainer for this team. He has already coached several teams, but was only the trainer at all the last clubs for a very short time. That means that the teams in question or the board have not been satisfied with Tuchel. I don't know if he's the right person to get everything going. Maybe you should have gone for a slightly older and more experienced trainer than Tuchel?

[BALIK]

This was a golden opportunity for Dortmund to become champions and they know that very well. If you have a good season and Bayern Munich is untouchable, then 2nd place is much easier to accept. That was definitely not the case now. Dortmund should have gotten more out of it, and they gave it away completely in the last game. Bayern also all the luck in the world, but in the end they won that match on their own. I also expect a very strong Bayern Munich next season.

The Dortmund team missed out on the title this season because of their own stupidity. Dortmund had a good chance of winning the title this season. The Dortmund team could have won the Bundesliga title if they had won the last match. But they failed to win against a team like Mainz in the last match. Dortmund drew the match. Bayern Munich will strengthen themselves next season. And so I think the chances of Dortmund occupying the top spot in the table next season are very slim. Dortmund missed an easy chance to win the title.

[ILuckyGuyI]

Bayern Munich has not had its best season, but this season you always have once every 10 years. Bayern has now had it once, so it can probably be over. I doubt whether the current coach is the best trainer for this team. He has already coached several teams, but was only the trainer at all the last clubs for a very short time. That means that the teams in question or the board have not been satisfied with Tuchel. I don't know if he's the right person to get everything going. Maybe you should have gone for a slightly older and more experienced trainer than Tuchel?

Mate, it is still early to be sure of anything about Tuchel in fact. Because he arrived at Bayern Munich quite late in the season. Nobody was able to understand what Bayern Munich were trying to achieve with this action in the middle of important tournaments. Kahn and Salihamidzic got sacked for this reason most probably. Because it was a really huge risk to take there.

Of course they still won the Bundesliga title but it was so lucky for them as Dortmund threw away their chance just like that. I don't blame Tuchel for these runs in the Bundesliga and Champions League both. He didn't have much time to do really nice things. But in the upcoming season he will have nothing more than time to execute the plans in his mind.

I believe Tuchel is a really decent manager also. But let's say he still couldn't manage to have a good chemistry with the players then I would understand if Bayern Munich decide to sack him too.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Indeed, in this case, we are also aware that this is their business, but by always doing that, in fact, sometimes we think that one of the reasons the Bundesliga became a farmers' league started with conditions like this.
A little improvement in the mission maybe it could be better and indeed if they are in this case they are still doing the same thing for selling their young players but I quite agree with you at least they should think about selling to other clubs if necessary outside of the bundesliga club because it gives young talent to Bayern is the same as further strengthening their rivals.
Call it Gotze and Lewandowski, who really were a crushing blow, especially for Lewandowski, who indeed had a brilliant career at Bayern and actually destroyed Dortmund in the end.

That's what happened in the Bundesliga where Dortmund were ultimately unable to become champions because they didn't have the mental strength to become champions. As you said it is true that these two teams have always been the center of attention in the transfer window in previous seasons where Dortmund were able to accept offers from Bayern Munich for their players and this situation often occurred from these two teams even though they were rivals in the title race.

Apart from that, Dortmund have a business that they have run for several seasons where they are able to score star players and sell them to other clubs at quite high prices, like when they sold Haaland to Manchester City. thus I think dortmund will always find it difficult to break Bayern munich dominance in the bundesliga.

Yesterday's match between Borussia Dortmund and Mainz was the most dramatic and decisive encounter of this year's German Bundesliga campaign and how Borussia Dortmund did let the title to slip off their hands still looks like a joke to me but NO it actually happened and that's why it's called football, a game with endless dramatic moments.
Bayern Munich are German champions for the 11th consecutive time and I think they'll keep winning the league

That's how it is, my friend, and the truth is that it was very forceful in the way that Bayern did it, but this leaves something to think, that next season Dortmund will try to get in first place and something that I have seen in Dorgtmund is that they are very constant, they do not slow down, on the contrary they raise the pace and the level of football they show is better every time, now they are no longer known for being one of the best teams that release players to sell but one of the best best teams in all of Germany, and that really matters, because being one of the best in Almenaia is because the level of fútbol here is on another level.

Bayern Munich has not had its best season, but this season you always have once every 10 years. Bayern has now had it once, so it can probably be over. I doubt whether the current coach is the best trainer for this team. He has already coached several teams, but was only the trainer at all the last clubs for a very short time. That means that the teams in question or the board have not been satisfied with Tuchel. I don't know if he's the right person to get everything going. Maybe you should have gone for a slightly older and more experienced trainer than Tuchel?

Mate, it is still early to be sure of anything about Tuchel in fact. Because he arrived at Bayern Munich quite late in the season. Nobody was able to understand what Bayern Munich were trying to achieve with this action in the middle of important tournaments. Kahn and Salihamidzic got sacked for this reason most probably. Because it was a really huge risk to take there.

Of course they still won the Bundesliga title but it was so lucky for them as Dortmund threw away their chance just like that. I don't blame Tuchel for these runs in the Bundesliga and Champions League both. He didn't have much time to do really nice things. But in the upcoming season he will have nothing more than time to execute the plans in his mind.

I believe Tuchel is a really decent manager also. But let's say he still couldn't manage to have a good chemistry with the players then I would understand if Bayern Munich decide to sack him too.

Well, if there are better coaches than Tuchel, for me Ancelotti, Pep Guardiola himself, Mourinho, Zidane, for me they are the best there are so far, but it should be noted that it is only my personal opinion, there are many who believe that there are bulls better, but seeing how world football has developed is what I base what I have said, for Bayern it is a team of great importance, which clearly needs its players to have a change, they need players who can help and bet more on the team, because in the case of other teams what is needed is a coach, such as Chelsea in the PL, with that squad of players what is needed is someone who manages them very well.

Well apparently Dortmund is aiming to be better:

Report – Borussia Dortmund keen on signing Juventus youngster

Borussia Dortmund has reportedly shown a keen interest in Juventus youngster Nicolo Rovella while he awaits clarification regarding his future at the Allianz Stadium.

Although Rovella has not yet completed a full season for Juventus, his impressive loan spell at Monza suggests that he could have a significant role to play in the upcoming season. Monza expects him to return to Turin, where there is an opportunity for him to compete for a place in Juventus’ midfield.

Source: https://www.juvefc.com/report-borussia-dortmund-keen-on-signing-juventus-youngster/

And Dortmund has much more vision of what they want, apart from the fact that their goal is set in the UCL and Bundesliga and they are showing it , I think there is a lot of pressure on this and apart from that , they have enough with Everything Bayern did, That for many it was lucky that they won , but wow, we must Admit that they Fought hard for first place.

[KTChampions]

Mate, it is still early to be sure of anything about Tuchel in fact. Because he arrived at Bayern Munich quite late in the season. Nobody was able to understand what Bayern Munich were trying to achieve with this action in the middle of important tournaments. Kahn and Salihamidzic got sacked for this reason most probably. Because it was a really huge risk to take there.

Of course they still won the Bundesliga title but it was so lucky for them as Dortmund threw away their chance just like that. I don't blame Tuchel for these runs in the Bundesliga and Champions League both. He didn't have much time to do really nice things. But in the upcoming season he will have nothing more than time to execute the plans in his mind.

I believe Tuchel is a really decent manager also. But let's say he still couldn't manage to have a good chemistry with the players then I would understand if Bayern Munich decide to sack him too.

It will be interesting for me to look at Tuchel if Bayern make some serious reinforcements to the squad. So far, nothing has been heard on this subject, if Bavaria does not strengthen, then I am sure the next season will be no less difficult (even if Bayern wins the Bundesliga confidently) and the chances in the Champions League will be even less than this year. Bayern now is Real Madrid last year - without big changes in the squad, the problems will only accumulate.

[terrorJR]

That is indeed quite natural because it can be said that for now Union is an ordinary club but that is precisely what is interesting for them because with an ordinary club and being able to be consistent in the last few seasons it is really very good but indeed in this case we have also understand one thing of course because who makes their finances fat is they who will have an advantage over other clubs and that is undeniable.

Union Berlin reached the top four for the first time in their history, thanks to exceptional performances by outstanding players. Urs Fischer, the iron ones' manager, performed an excellent job of taking the team above and beyond the expectations of the fans and the bundesliga. This season, the club will enter the market, making solid additions with the goal to battle with vigour in more challenging competition. Union Berlin is quite stringent in terms of player wage budgets, and the board is extremely tenacious in dealing with such a problem.

It's undeniable that something like that has to be done and it's proven that they can be solid even without players being used as benchmarks or having big names.
Over time, Union's performance has improved and that deserves appreciation, even though I really wouldn't expect too much for the Champions League, but at least in this case they have reached a position where not many can even do it, which is very good for them.

[YuginKadoya]

Thomas Tuchel still seems to be concocting a good strategy for his squad next season considering he was appointed coach of Bayern Munich at the end of this season and after the Bundesliga is finished he certainly won't rest because he has a big responsibility to bring Bayern Munich more consistent in the future. The rest is likely Thomas Tuchel will screen his players, who has the right to stay and who has the right to be thrown away in the summer. On the other hand, Thomas Tuchel doesn't want Bayern Munich to be in the same situation as this season and he certainly wants Bayern Munich to be more ahead of the difference in points from several of its competitors, including Dortmund.

I surely think that Bayern Munich's main goal being a dominant team again, but because of the certain leaving of just 1 player that dominance was completely shattered for Thomas Tuchel to regain that glory back again Bayern Munich needs to get an insight into the players he has right now and from that he can get a hint on what kind of players he will be needing for the team and I think that is what Tuchel is doing right now, mistakes that the team have made in the past season, and the right thing that the team did in the past season, is surely what he is thinking right now,

Bayern Munich doesn't seem to have any special players, but from what I can see their squad is evenly distributed and also they rely on team play rather than individual play, so it makes them seem like they don't have any special players.
Borussia Dortmund always sells star players, many players have left for other teams just because they want to get big profits. Erling Haaland is one of the young players they have managed to create and now he is making it big at Manchester City.

Actually, they don't have Lewandowski anymore but Julian Nagelsmann is pushing Sadio Mane to be the Lewandowski for the last season, Mane is not special like Robert Lewandowski, but Sadio Mane is really unique and is good at making plays for the team as a winger is likely what he wants as the position for the team, that is why Bayern Munich had a hard time winning because Sadio Mane isn't in his preferred position, that Nagelsmann allowed him in the mid of the season for Bayern Munich to win again,

So yeah Bayern Munich doesn't have any special players but they still have great players with them that they can surely work with,

Bayern Munich has not had its best season, but this season you always have once every 10 years. Bayern has now had it once, so it can probably be over. I doubt whether the current coach is the best trainer for this team. He has already coached several teams, but was only the trainer at all the last clubs for a very short time. That means that the teams in question or the board have not been satisfied with Tuchel. I don't know if he's the right person to get everything going. Maybe you should have gone for a slightly older and more experienced trainer than Tuchel?

I say give a man a chance, Thomas Tuchel enters Bayern Munich on March 24, 2023, so I think it is just only 2 Months and some weeks that he is a coach for Bayern Munich I think he is just new to the team, Julian Nagelsmann was once his player and I think he surely knows what kind of mindset Nagelsmann have,

[Leviathan.007]

Borussia Dortmund has released one of its best players this season, Jude Bellingham. Yes once again we see them letting go of their prized players, and that is what we are used to seeing. I don't have a problem with this because Brussia Dortmund also benefit, but I regret it when they keep selling their valuable players continuously. The reason is that we know that it is currently difficult for them to break Bayern Munich's dominance, and when they got the big opportunity to break Bayern Munich's dominance, they failed to do so in the end.

Don't worry. It's dortmund's business. This team will be always doing it forever. Winning a trophy was just bonus but generating more and more money from selling developed players are very smart.

Next season there is no guarantee that the same thing will happen as this season, because Bayern Munich will definitely evaluate how to navigate the coming season.

There will always be no guarantee for any seasons. The winner will remain unperdictable but bayern mostly winning the league. Dortmund will able to find the new players that have capability to replace the old one that was leaving from the club.
You shall not feel worry about dortmund. This club knows what he has been doing by selling player.

they can get the new player that have same potential like the old one.

I know Dortmund is usually trying to seek younger talents and they sell the stars to top teams to earn money, but the fact about Dortmund is they have to also keep some players and earn achievement with the teams they have, in this season if Dortmund had a player like Haaland they could have a much higher chance in Bundesliga.

Also, I don't know if they spend the money they earn from selling these players because they don't buy other superstar players too.

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This was a golden opportunity for Dortmund to become champions and they know that very well. If you have a good season and Bayern Munich is untouchable, then 2nd place is much easier to accept. That was definitely not the case now. Dortmund should have gotten more out of it, and they gave it away completely in the last game. Bayern also all the luck in the world, but in the end they won that match on their own. I also expect a very strong Bayern Munich next season.

The Dortmund team missed out on the title this season because of their own stupidity. Dortmund had a good chance of winning the title this season. The Dortmund team could have won the Bundesliga title if they had won the last match. But they failed to win against a team like Mainz in the last match. Dortmund drew the match. Bayern Munich will strengthen themselves next season. And so I think the chances of Dortmund occupying the top spot in the table next season are very slim. Dortmund missed an easy chance to win the title.

If we think about it realistically, it's ridiculous when Borussia dortmund, which is known to be strong, faces another club but can lose when they play against Mainz, it's clear that this club is not that strong and Dortmund should have been able to win at least 1 goal to win, but in reality it only ended in a draw.
As a fan, I am very disappointed with Dortmund's achievements last season.

[EdenHazard]

Bayern Munich has not had its best season, but this season you always have once every 10 years. Bayern has now had it once, so it can probably be over. I doubt whether the current coach is the best trainer for this team. He has already coached several teams, but was only the trainer at all the last clubs for a very short time. That means that the teams in question or the board have not been satisfied with Tuchel. I don't know if he's the right person to get everything going. Maybe you should have gone for a slightly older and more experienced trainer than Tuchel?

True , they almost bottled the title at the last 5 matches.

Luckily dortmund the one that wasted the chance. Dortmund deserve for the title to be honest especially if you look at the reus story who haven't got the bundesliga title to lift in his whole life career. That's a shame. Next season going to be different as dortmund star bellingham has officially joined real madrid and at the other hand bayern will surely become stronger.

[Docnaster]

Bayern Munich has not had its best season, but this season you always have once every 10 years. Bayern has now had it once, so it can probably be over. I doubt whether the current coach is the best trainer for this team. He has already coached several teams, but was only the trainer at all the last clubs for a very short time. That means that the teams in question or the board have not been satisfied with Tuchel. I don't know if he's the right person to get everything going. Maybe you should have gone for a slightly older and more experienced trainer than Tuchel?

I have always had my doubts for Thomas Tuchel. I don't think he is the best coach for Bayern Munich who will take them back to Champions League victory. Me and you understands that even if Tuchel wins the Bundesliga for Bayern Munich,  it will not be counted as a great fit for him because they are used to the Bundesliga title.
Bayern will only talk about best season if they are able to win the Champions League, anything less than that cannot be said to be the best season for Bayern.