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June 18, 2023, 08:12:24 PM
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Dortmund management must change their attitude if they want to bring the Bundesliga title in the coming seasons because if they continue to sell star players, it is possible that Dortmund will fast for the title for the next 5 seasons.  10 years is quite a long time but Dortmund have always failed to break Bayern Munich's dominance in the Bundesliga.

In the bundesliga, only bayern munich is the most consistent in defending the bundesliga title because other teams are not able to do much because the depth of their squad is relatively dominated by ordinary players but in the depth of the bayern munich squad they are able to present many quality players.
Imagine a team getting back from 1 transfer what they spent in the previous one + benefits. That's what Dortmund is doing to sustain their position while getting new players to train and help them getting the title if possible.
Dortmund are one of the hard numbers in Bundesliga, their problem is having a team like Bayern Munich to ruin their fan, otherwise they would be the first team in the ranking although selling their top players.

I guess you are wrong because you won't know having money is more important than a better place on the table for the managers.
Obviously, Dortmund prefers to earn more money from transferring players to other teams than using the players to have a better situation. Otherwise, the Dortmund we saw could easily win the Bundesliga title if they didn't sell Haaland before.
Disagreeing here, mate. Football is a team game, not a one-man show. So, you can't hang Dortmund's performance all on Haaland. Sure, his move was a big-money call, but to say he alone would've won them the Bundesliga is wrong. Even with him, they didn't clinch the title. It's unfair to put their poor run all on his absence. Bayern's just been too good for years. Dortmund's slump? More about the team's shaky grit than missing one player.

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June 18, 2023, 08:28:39 PM
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Many things will change at bayern Munich due to the fact that a new trainer has been appointed in the last part of the competition. But could he turn this into a football machine again? It would be nice if Bayern could play football again at its old level, there was a time when they were so incredibly good that they were more than 20 points ahead of the number 2 in the league. We saw it coming a bit, as going into the winter break, this was already Bayern's worst halfway result in the last 10 years. Dortmund will not be able to win the title in the coming years, but Bayern will have to get things right first and that has not been done in a few weeks.

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June 18, 2023, 09:07:24 PM
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Like it or not, this is always going to happen. Rich clubs will always be in front when they get a player. Especially in the Bundesliga, Borussia Dortmund are concerned with profits, actually if they want they are very capable of retaining their players, because financially they are actually fine and are not constrained by a situation which requires them to sell potential players. But that's not what they want, when they realize there is something very profitable when they sell players, they will not hesitate to sell them.
Who doesn't know Borussia Dortmund, and it's not just once or twice that they sold players to Bayern Munich, who are their main rivals in the Bundesliga.
In the new football modern era, money is everything and can change the history of one team for winning many tittles, regarding how faster development progress from Manchester City in Primer League since acquisition and has much money City won many tittle from domestic league until Champion League. Bundesliga has farmer league label because team with huge money is Bayern Munich only than 18 participants teams, I think need new investor for making Bundesliga keep competitive and Bayern Munich not dominance every season how easily winning domestic league tittle.

Indeed has any teams with business priority than keep compete to make Bayern Munich difficult winning domestic league, Dortmund and Leipzig are both team always sell their star player on every season to rival teams Bayern Munich. Its stop sell star player to rival teams seems another Bundesliga participants teams has chance for stopping Bayern Munich dominance in domestic league.

Dortmund is interested in making a profit, and Bayern Munich is always interested in winning trophies. That is the biggest difference between these two clubs. That’s why we see Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga title year after year. This is probably the 11th time in a row they have done that. But Dortmund is not capable of doing something like that.

I don’t understand why clubs like Dortmund do not prioritize trophies over making a profit by selling players. If they wanted trophies, they could have earned a lot more money because a lot of good players would have been interested in them. But now any player with even a little bit of potential wants to leave Dortmund because he gets bigger and better offers from other clubs which are known to have a legacy.

From some of these talks it is very clear that Borussia dortmund is only looking to profit from selling their best players and are already comfortable being runners up in this Bundesliga.
When in fact trophies will be more impressive than just profits will never give the best impression of the club.
If only Dortmund were able to compete with Bayern Munich and get first place it would definitely be very exciting with the new history that Dortmund could get but it was very disappointing that Dortmund always threw away their best chance at the end of the match.

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June 18, 2023, 09:32:10 PM
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The season also ended terribly for Schalke 04, because they seemed to have saved things for a while, but due to a defeat they were still dredged in the last round. A very big name, but I assume that we can see Schalke back in the Bundesliga soon. The difference in television money is also huge, not as big as in England, but it is the difference between having a stable bank account or going bankrupt with the association. Bayern is the only one that has had a very healthy bank account for years, despite the fact that they incur a lot of costs and are also spending a lot of money every year.

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June 18, 2023, 11:22:54 PM
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Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.

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June 18, 2023, 11:57:35 PM
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Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.
The crucial ones must be when dortmund drawn against mainz. It's caused by it has become the key match for dortmund to won bundesliga but surprisingly mainz come with very good squads that were able pressing dortmund since the early game.
Bayern was just making its record even longer than before. It's now 11 years. Bayern was winning trophies in any year. I think that dortmund must hope bayern will perform so badly under tuchel next season.

It's gonna be a difficult task to compete with bayern as bayern is also doing its strategy to buy a good player from dortmund. The problem is if dortmnud has weak mentality compared with bayern.
Terzic must find a solution to fix it. He can't let his club to have weak mentality in upcoming season.
There will be so many hopes for dortmund to win bundesliga. It has been more than a decade ago since dortmund was winning its last bundesliga trophy.

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June 19, 2023, 01:52:35 AM
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The reality is sometimes not that simple. Being able to compete or not, of course, must be seen from a number of actual conditions, even if the players make a sizable contribution but must pay attention to other conditions.
This season is proof that conditions other than players have an effect because Bayern's conditions this season actually provide something different and are quite tense, especially when competition is held even until the match ends.
But it all comes back the same in the end, saying Dortmund can compete or not at the moment it seems with their conditions, they are only focused on second place and nothing else can really be done when Bayern really get back to their good form.
The only thing Dortmund can achieve is to finish just behind Bayern Munich and that has been going on since the 18/19 season. It has been very consistent for Dortmund and they have repeatedly failed to win the bundesliga title in that time interval. Dortmund will always be able to compete with Bayern Munich and this is a fact in plain sight. I think it's just a matter of next season whether Dortmund will continue to consistently occupy second place or manage to break the curse and become the Bundesliga champion, only time can tell.

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June 19, 2023, 01:59:30 AM
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Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.
Dortmund fans will now experience the effects of that match for a long time. They lost the championship by losing points against a team that had no claim in a match that could be champion, and Bayern Munich scored in the last minutes and became the champion again. No matter what happens in the Bundesliga, the champion does not change.

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June 19, 2023, 05:45:20 AM
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The reality is sometimes not that simple. Being able to compete or not, of course, must be seen from a number of actual conditions, even if the players make a sizable contribution but must pay attention to other conditions.
This season is proof that conditions other than players have an effect because Bayern's conditions this season actually provide something different and are quite tense, especially when competition is held even until the match ends.
But it all comes back the same in the end, saying Dortmund can compete or not at the moment it seems with their conditions, they are only focused on second place and nothing else can really be done when Bayern really get back to their good form.
The only thing Dortmund can achieve is to finish just behind Bayern Munich and that has been going on since the 18/19 season. It has been very consistent for Dortmund and they have repeatedly failed to win the bundesliga title in that time interval. Dortmund will always be able to compete with Bayern Munich and this is a fact in plain sight. I think it's just a matter of next season whether Dortmund will continue to consistently occupy second place or manage to break the curse and become the Bundesliga champion, only time can tell.
As far as I remember 2020/2021 the second position belongs to Leipzig.
But indeed they only lasted one season because after that Leipzig did something that was beyond predictions by giving players and coaches to Bayern.
On the other hand, for Dortmund, I still see that this season they put a lot of pressure because there was nothing like that in previous seasons. and this season is different because Bayern are not playing too well giving Dortmund more opportunities.
Next season might not be the same as this season but of course the hope is that something interesting like this season will happen again next season.

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June 19, 2023, 05:45:20 AM
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The only thing Dortmund can achieve is to finish just behind Bayern Munich and that has been going on since the 18/19 season. It has been very consistent for Dortmund and they have repeatedly failed to win the bundesliga title in that time interval. Dortmund will always be able to compete with Bayern Munich and this is a fact in plain sight. I think it's just a matter of next season whether Dortmund will continue to consistently occupy second place or manage to break the curse and become the Bundesliga champion, only time can tell.
Everything will indeed be answered by time, although most people also have the belief that Dortmund can still win in the Bundesliga as long as Dortmund do not experience more defeats or draws in the matches they face so that Bayern Munich cannot catch up if Bayern Munich had made a small mistake that made Bayern Munich lost points. I'm pretty sure that next season Dortmund will still be much better than before and will also continue to compete to become champions with a strategy that might be slightly different from before.
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June 19, 2023, 06:35:29 AM
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Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.
Even in this season we have too many problems in Bayern Munich but still they were lucky to win Bundesliga and as things were going I believe this win happens just because of Dortmund's inconsistency because they were impressive with their performance throughout season but sadly in last few matches they lost their momentum and Bayern Munich have good chance to bring themselves into suitable situation for the win of another title.
 
One thing is amazing as on last day until last minute there was not clear who is going to win but sadly due to draw against Mainz at home and last minute goal from Musiala give another win to Bayern Munich in this season.

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June 19, 2023, 07:24:08 AM
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The only thing Dortmund can achieve is to finish just behind Bayern Munich and that has been going on since the 18/19 season. It has been very consistent for Dortmund and they have repeatedly failed to win the bundesliga title in that time interval. Dortmund will always be able to compete with Bayern Munich and this is a fact in plain sight. I think it's just a matter of next season whether Dortmund will continue to consistently occupy second place or manage to break the curse and become the Bundesliga champion, only time can tell.
Everything will indeed be answered by time, although most people also have the belief that Dortmund can still win in the Bundesliga as long as Dortmund do not experience more defeats or draws in the matches they face so that Bayern Munich cannot catch up if Bayern Munich had made a small mistake that made Bayern Munich lost points. I'm pretty sure that next season Dortmund will still be much better than before and will also continue to compete to become champions with a strategy that might be slightly different from before.
It's easy enough for Dortmund to be able to compete with Bayern Munich as long as Dortmund are able to be consistent with their performance and can always add more points.
I mean maybe in the summer Dortmund do have a chance to compete with Bayern Munich and get the first place in the bundesliga but on condition that Dortmund have to quickly get more points in the early games of the season to put Bayern Munich close.
but if at the beginning of the season dortmund fails to get more points, in my opinion dortmund will still fail again in the following season.

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Disagreeing here, mate. Football is a team game, not a one-man show. So, you can't hang Dortmund's performance all on Haaland. Sure, his move was a big-money call, but to say he alone would've won them the Bundesliga is wrong. Even with him, they didn't clinch the title. It's unfair to put their poor run all on his absence. Bayern's just been too good for years. Dortmund's slump? More about the team's shaky grit than missing one player.
I agree with you that football is a team game and cannot be pinned on the individual abilities of players, but with the presence of players who have good abilities it is hoped that they can contribute more to the game. Collectivity must be the main thing in this game, but it will be maximized if a player has good skills when processing round skin. So the ability of the players combined with good teamwork will make the strategy implemented more leverage.

Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.
Borussia Dortmund's failure in their last game saw Bayern Munoich win the title for the fifth time in a row, and there's no doubt Borussia Dortmund have missed many of the chances that have come their way this season. I thought this season would be the season in which Bayern Munich's championship record would be broken, but what happened was the opposite, they succeeded in extending their championship record once again.
Apart from all that, there are many things that must be improved, be it from Bayern Munich or Borussia Dortmund because this season their weaknesses are so thick.

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June 19, 2023, 08:16:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure that next season Dortmund will still be much better than before and will also continue to compete to become champions with a strategy that might be slightly different from before.
For sure Dortmund will be doing that , and the last years they was getting more and more closer to Bayern Munich.
Maybe we will also see some nice good transfers of Dortmund and that they get some good Players.

I thought this season would be the season in which Bayern Munich's championship record would be broken, but what happened was the opposite,
I guess or i hope that we will see this happend in the coming season and i believe in Dortmund.

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Leipzig have lost Nkunku who is one of their important players to Chelsea now. He was the top scorer of the season in the Bundesliga together with Fullkrug. There are still Andre Silva and Timo Werner in the squad of course. This might be seen as a chance for them to be the main striker of the team. However I still have doubts about them for now.

Because they played in quite many games this season but the number of goals each of them scored is really low compared to the number of games they played. Leipzig need at least one of them to improve their finishing skills more to get ready for next season. This is important to keep their consistency in top 4.

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June 19, 2023, 09:21:12 AM
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Thomas Tuchel's current position is indeed a little difficult to determine how Bayern Munich will continue to welcome this new season when Thomas Tuchel must be really active in the transfer market to get reliable players to strengthen the club and get Bayern Munich's dream.
But there are other things that put pressure on which players to replace and whether that will improve Bayern Munich's performance.
So Thomas Tuchel really has to be careful about making this decision because it really affects Bayern Munich's achievements.

Well indeed and I think that Bayern Munich is helping and asking Tuchel what to do, I really this they need each other to make this happen but if there are Rumor Transfer arrivals there is also a rumored Transfer departure like Lucas Hernández, that could go to Saint Paris Germain, and because of the recent incident with Leroy Sane, Sadio Mané is rumored to be departing Bayern Munich and may go to two teams Real Madrid and Ettifaq FC, the two teams that likely could sign Mane, Alphonso Davies that could also a target of Real Madrid, João Cancelo that could go to Arsenal FC, and Joshua Kimmich to FC Barcelona for me this players are crucial to be transfer to another team for Bayern Munich,


Dortmund's habit of spotting out talents, grooming and selling them to other clubs will leave them with no silverware. The really need to change their old habit if they want to contend for trophies.The way the English premier league is attracting a lot of interest, I just hope the bundesliga can attract such level of interest too. I would really like to see a wealthy business or arab buy one of these clubs, maybe Dortmund and pump a lot of money to give the club a fighting chance to rival Bayern Munich. Bayern have so much dominated the league... How can a club win the league for 7 consecutive times? sometimes I ask myself if they are the only club in the league. Things needs to change, I would like the league to be more attractive, competitive and unpredictable.


I really think Dortmund can dominate this even without the help of any business something or an arab wealthy man as you can see now Dortmund was close to being a champion but this is just my hint, Dortmund doesn't really want to be champion they likely want to improve players and sell they on a high price, or reasonable price, but right now Dortmund is in preparation on getting potential players aswell, right now there are rumored 2 Naby Keïta, from Liverpool FC, and Edson Álvarez from Ajax Amsterdam, and now that Jude Bellingham has been transferred to Real Madrid they will surely need a replacement,

The season also ended terribly for Schalke 04, because they seemed to have saved things for a while, but due to a defeat they were still dredged in the last round. A very big name, but I assume that we can see Schalke back in the Bundesliga soon. The difference in television money is also huge, not as big as in England, but it is the difference between having a stable bank account or going bankrupt with the association. Bayern is the only one that has had a very healthy bank account for years, despite the fact that they incur a lot of costs and are also spending a lot of money every year.

Schalke would likely need to just accept the fact that they are now in the 2nd division it really didn't go their way but it is a different story with VfL Bochum and Union Berlin that once in the 2nd Division now is getting stronger as the day passes, and now Hertha has been the one that have gone to the 2nd division now,
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June 19, 2023, 10:08:01 AM
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I really think Dortmund can dominate this even without the help of any business something or an arab wealthy man as you can see now Dortmund was close to being a champion but this is just my hint, Dortmund doesn't really want to be champion they likely want to improve players and sell they on a high price, or reasonable price, but right now Dortmund is in preparation on getting potential players aswell, right now there are rumored 2 Naby Keïta, from Liverpool FC, and Edson Álvarez from Ajax Amsterdam, and now that Jude Bellingham has been transferred to Real Madrid they will surely need a replacement,

I agree with that. Dortmund's vision isn't targeting to become champion in the Bundesliga mainly. It is just as you described. However I really wish Dortmund was also bought by a rich person or a group of rich people maybe. Because Bundesliga has been under the dominance of Bayern Munich for 12 seasons. This season was a hope to break this dominance but it didn't happen either. Dortmund just blew their chance in an unbelievable way in the final moments of the season.

This isn't a common thing to be seen in the Bundesliga. Who knows when we would see Bayern Munich this vulnerable again. If they had a real opponent to fight for the title regularly then it would have been more fun to follow the league for me.
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June 19, 2023, 10:23:20 AM
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Like it or not, this is always going to happen. Rich clubs will always be in front when they get a player. Especially in the Bundesliga, Borussia Dortmund are concerned with profits, actually if they want they are very capable of retaining their players, because financially they are actually fine and are not constrained by a situation which requires them to sell potential players. But that's not what they want, when they realize there is something very profitable when they sell players, they will not hesitate to sell them.
Who doesn't know Borussia Dortmund, and it's not just once or twice that they sold players to Bayern Munich, who are their main rivals in the Bundesliga.
In the new football modern era, money is everything and can change the history of one team for winning many tittles, regarding how faster development progress from Manchester City in Primer League since acquisition and has much money City won many tittle from domestic league until Champion League. Bundesliga has farmer league label because team with huge money is Bayern Munich only than 18 participants teams, I think need new investor for making Bundesliga keep competitive and Bayern Munich not dominance every season how easily winning domestic league tittle.

Indeed has any teams with business priority than keep compete to make Bayern Munich difficult winning domestic league, Dortmund and Leipzig are both team always sell their star player on every season to rival teams Bayern Munich. Its stop sell star player to rival teams seems another Bundesliga participants teams has chance for stopping Bayern Munich dominance in domestic league.

Dortmund is interested in making a profit, and Bayern Munich is always interested in winning trophies. That is the biggest difference between these two clubs. That’s why we see Bayern Munich winning the Bundesliga title year after year. This is probably the 11th time in a row they have done that. But Dortmund is not capable of doing something like that.

I don’t understand why clubs like Dortmund do not prioritize trophies over making a profit by selling players. If they wanted trophies, they could have earned a lot more money because a lot of good players would have been interested in them. But now any player with even a little bit of potential wants to leave Dortmund because he gets bigger and better offers from other clubs which are known to have a legacy.

From some of these talks it is very clear that Borussia dortmund is only looking to profit from selling their best players and are already comfortable being runners up in this Bundesliga.
When in fact trophies will be more impressive than just profits will never give the best impression of the club.
If only Dortmund were able to compete with Bayern Munich and get first place it would definitely be very exciting with the new history that Dortmund could get but it was very disappointing that Dortmund always threw away their best chance at the end of the match.
Like I said yesterday, it's not only about winning, making money is part of it. And to be realistic, no one can underestimate Dortmund in Bundesliga, so if they are interested in making more money than winning, it's their choice but all this is still guesswork as I don't expect any club to be thinking of money-making alone. Also for the record, they tried so well this season, after all, they ended the season with the same points as Bayern Munich, only that Bayern got there earlier than them.

This season and many other seasons that Dortmund did not win were still spectacular, they always prove that they are a viable contender, and one day they shall win the trophy again.

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Many things will change at bayern Munich due to the fact that a new trainer has been appointed in the last part of the competition. But could he turn this into a football machine again? It would be nice if Bayern could play football again at its old level, there was a time when they were so incredibly good that they were more than 20 points ahead of the number 2 in the league. We saw it coming a bit, as going into the winter break, this was already Bayern's worst halfway result in the last 10 years. Dortmund will not be able to win the title in the coming years, but Bayern will have to get things right first and that has not been done in a few weeks.
Bayern Munich has the chance to revitalise and recover its status as a football powerhouse with the hiring of a new coach. Change can be unsettling but it also offers the possibility for resurrection. Bayern has a long history of dominating the league and despite recent lapses it is important to keep in mind their past achievements. They may surely aim to play at their previous level again with the right direction and preparation. Even though Bayern lead over their rivals has shrunk it is still crucial to recognise that football is a constantly changing sport. Bayern must concentrate on their own resurgence before looking too far ahead despite the fact that Dortmund may not be title contenders right away. Bayern can undoubtedly return to the top with the correct strategy which calls for perseverance commitment and a clear vision.

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Bayern Munich won another season in Bundesliga and it's not surprising for us anymore to see this team winning the title of the league anymore because the recent years we saw the only team racing for the title was Bayern Munich, however in this season Dortmund lost many chances to beat Bayern Munich and win the Bundesliga title after years to failing they could with the title after more than ten years but in the ned Dortmund failed to win the ttle while they could easily earn that achievement by just winning the last game against Mainz.

Although Bayern Munich won the title this season, they could not dominate the Bundesliga this season. Bayern Munich's performance was very erratic. And so at the start of the season, Union Berlin was at the top of the points table for a long time. And at the end of the season, the top spot in the table was occupied by Dortmund. But unfortunately, the Dortmund team could not win the title due to not being able to win in the last match of the season. Dortmund had a good chance of winning the title. Due to erratic performances, Dortmund could not win the title.

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