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June 21, 2023, 06:49:31 PM
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Borrusia Dortmund has good qualities and is capable of matching Bayern Munich's strength in a competitive campaign for the trophy. I understand that the club is making great revenues through the sales of their important star players, but they are also working hard for other clubs. The team is balanced enough, but I believe they squandered their opportunity to win the Bundesliga title this season, with poor performances at the end when they urgently needed a win. When will the moment come for Bundesliga teams to turn the clock back with Bayern Munich's ultimate dominance?
The departure of some important players destabilized the club. Seeing how bad the performance of dortmund in the last match against mainz makes me think if dortmund will perform even badly next season.
Bellingham leave. It's also selling its important defender to the bayern. Dortmund was not making a great income from selling the players, clubs were also having a lot of expenses.
It can be seen from the financial report of dortmund during the previous season. Even though dortmund was making some huge transfers, but team was not getting huge profits.

Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

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June 21, 2023, 06:59:55 PM
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Borrusia Dortmund has good qualities and is capable of matching Bayern Munich's strength in a competitive campaign for the trophy. I understand that the club is making great revenues through the sales of their important star players, but they are also working hard for other clubs. The team is balanced enough, but I believe they squandered their opportunity to win the Bundesliga title this season, with poor performances at the end when they urgently needed a win. When will the moment come for Bundesliga teams to turn the clock back with Bayern Munich's ultimate dominance?
The departure of some important players destabilized the club. Seeing how bad the performance of dortmund in the last match against mainz makes me think if dortmund will perform even badly next season.
Bellingham leave. It's also selling its important defender to the bayern. Dortmund was not making a great income from selling the players, clubs were also having a lot of expenses.
It can be seen from the financial report of dortmund during the previous season. Even though dortmund was making some huge transfers, but team was not getting huge profits.

Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

This strategy of Borussia Dortmund means to me that they are not aiming for the Bundesliga championship. If they really wanted to be champions, they wouldn't have sold the young and world star candidates who are in the top 11 every year. The most recent example of this was Jude Bellingham. He was also an important name in the main squad, although Dortmund sold him.

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June 21, 2023, 07:19:57 PM
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Borrusia Dortmund has good qualities and is capable of matching Bayern Munich's strength in a competitive campaign for the trophy. I understand that the club is making great revenues through the sales of their important star players, but they are also working hard for other clubs. The team is balanced enough, but I believe they squandered their opportunity to win the Bundesliga title this season, with poor performances at the end when they urgently needed a win. When will the moment come for Bundesliga teams to turn the clock back with Bayern Munich's ultimate dominance?
The departure of some important players destabilized the club. Seeing how bad the performance of dortmund in the last match against mainz makes me think if dortmund will perform even badly next season.
Bellingham leave. It's also selling its important defender to the bayern. Dortmund was not making a great income from selling the players, clubs were also having a lot of expenses.
It can be seen from the financial report of dortmund during the previous season. Even though dortmund was making some huge transfers, but team was not getting huge profits.

Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

This strategy of Borussia Dortmund means to me that they are not aiming for the Bundesliga championship. If they really wanted to be champions, they wouldn't have sold the young and world star candidates who are in the top 11 every year. The most recent example of this was Jude Bellingham. He was also an important name in the main squad, although Dortmund sold him.

I'm sure they want the championship in the Bundesliga, but the young football players who shine in Borussia Dortmund naturally want to be transferred to other leagues in the world. If Borussia refuses, they may not be able to bring promising players to their team. That's why they constantly add young players to their staff, contributing to their development and making significant transfer profits. I think what Borussia Dortmund is doing is actually the right thing. I think they will be champions soon.

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June 21, 2023, 07:22:36 PM
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Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.
How can you compete? Bayern Munich have won the Bundesliga 11 times in a row since 2013. From here it is very clear that Dortmund is a business club and prioritizes business and profit above all. It's different from the team in the EPL who can balance business and the quality of their team.

Dortmund seems to prefer to focus on business only and is not so ambitious in pursuing the Bundesliga trophy. Apart from the gap that occurred between Dortmund and Bayern Munich. On the other hand, Bayern Munich is too OP in the German league and it's difficult to just compete with them. This season, Dormunt was able to compete with Bayer Munchen and even almost won the championship, although in the end it failed, even that because Bayer Munchen was inconsistent again. this is the same as PSG in the French league. This dominance is too high, making clubs like Dortmund think realistically and prefer to stay in their comfort zone rather than having to compete tooth and nail against Bayern Munich's domination in the Bundesliga.

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June 21, 2023, 08:13:52 PM
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If Dortmund's ownership changes or Dortmund gets a better sponsor. Then maybe they will form a strong squad. and will compete with Munich for the title.
I've never read the history of them buying big players. Dortmund has always been a maker of new great players. So Dortmund are not likely to buy great players, they always buy big potential players. So it seems that changing the traditions that are already running makes them uncomfortable. Dortmund's orientation is business, I think the failure this season didn't make them too disappointed. The management has run the football business well.
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If Dortmund's ownership changes or Dortmund gets a better sponsor. Then maybe they will form a strong squad. and will compete with Munich for the title.
I've never read the history of them buying big players. Dortmund has always been a maker of new great players. So Dortmund are not likely to buy great players, they always buy big potential players. So it seems that changing the traditions that are already running makes them uncomfortable. Dortmund's orientation is business, I think the failure this season didn't make them too disappointed. The management has run the football business well.

Yes and for example it is the same for Leipzig also. They are also not a financially broke team but they don't still go for top players. Normally they can convince many solid big players into joining themselves as they are in the Champions League like every season these days. Strengthening the squad like that would help them fight for bigger achievements.

But they are no different than Dortmund. They just want to put simpler targets in front of themselves and work for making them happen. As long as they can keep their financial condition stable there shouldn't be any problem for these teams.

But I'm still disappointed with Dortmund's not being able to deal a final blow this season to Bayern Munich and end their title series.  Undecided

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June 21, 2023, 08:57:17 PM
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If Dortmund's ownership changes or Dortmund gets a better sponsor. Then maybe they will form a strong squad. and will compete with Munich for the title.
I am not convinced the board of directors and the players are prepared to compete with everything they have against Bayern Munich. They're generating huge profits from the market by selling promising players to elite teams, and what strikes me is that they're still outperforming everyone else. Borrusia Dortmund will only win the Bundesliga if they learn to keep their talented players without triggering a sell clause. I understand that every club needs income to produce and establish their club, but not at the expense of their success; selling and accomplishing second-place results means nothing.


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Borrusia Dortmund has good qualities and is capable of matching Bayern Munich's strength in a competitive campaign for the trophy. I understand that the club is making great revenues through the sales of their important star players, but they are also working hard for other clubs. The team is balanced enough, but I believe they squandered their opportunity to win the Bundesliga title this season, with poor performances at the end when they urgently needed a win. When will the moment come for Bundesliga teams to turn the clock back with Bayern Munich's ultimate dominance?
The departure of some important players destabilized the club. Seeing how bad the performance of dortmund in the last match against mainz makes me think if dortmund will perform even badly next season.
Bellingham leave. It's also selling its important defender to the bayern. Dortmund was not making a great income from selling the players, clubs were also having a lot of expenses.
It can be seen from the financial report of dortmund during the previous season. Even though dortmund was making some huge transfers, but team was not getting huge profits.

Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.

This strategy of Borussia Dortmund means to me that they are not aiming for the Bundesliga championship. If they really wanted to be champions, they wouldn't have sold the young and world star candidates who are in the top 11 every year. The most recent example of this was Jude Bellingham. He was also an important name in the main squad, although Dortmund sold him.

I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the Bundesliga and this time just like the last two seasons we saw from Dortmund I'm waiting to see another young talent growing up in this team like they had Haalnd and Jude Bellingham before and they sold both.
Maybe this time Dortmund will sell another young talent to mean more just like what they did in the past.

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June 21, 2023, 09:38:30 PM
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I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the Bundesliga and this time just like the last two seasons we saw from Dortmund I'm waiting to see another young talent growing up in this team like they had Haalnd and Jude Bellingham before and they sold both.
Maybe this time Dortmund will sell another young talent to mean more just like what they did in the past.


What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

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June 21, 2023, 09:47:05 PM
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This strategy of Borussia Dortmund means to me that they are not aiming for the Bundesliga championship. If they really wanted to be champions, they wouldn't have sold the young and world star candidates who are in the top 11 every year. The most recent example of this was Jude Bellingham. He was also an important name in the main squad, although Dortmund sold him.
Maybe they think differently and have other strategies to get other talented players. But it's really a shame if they lose good players and their potential. But on the other hand, what if they target other players and need more money?

I don't think if they don't want the Bundesliga title, they always want it, but indeed sometimes they need more efforts for that, especially when their current rival is Bayern. Even though last season they almost got the title but lost a golden opportunity. Now this season, I'm also still doubtful because they still haven't found or there are signs of getting other key players who can really strengthen the squad.

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June 21, 2023, 10:41:24 PM
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I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the Bundesliga and this time just like the last two seasons we saw from Dortmund I'm waiting to see another young talent growing up in this team like they had Haalnd and Jude Bellingham before and they sold both.
Maybe this time Dortmund will sell another young talent to mean more just like what they did in the past.


What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.

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June 21, 2023, 10:49:36 PM
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Borrusia Dortmund has good qualities and is capable of matching Bayern Munich's strength in a competitive campaign for the trophy. I understand that the club is making great revenues through the sales of their important star players, but they are also working hard for other clubs. The team is balanced enough, but I believe they squandered their opportunity to win the Bundesliga title this season, with poor performances at the end when they urgently needed a win. When will the moment come for Bundesliga teams to turn the clock back with Bayern Munich's ultimate dominance?
The departure of some important players destabilized the club. Seeing how bad the performance of dortmund in the last match against mainz makes me think if dortmund will perform even badly next season.
Bellingham leave. It's also selling its important defender to the bayern. Dortmund was not making a great income from selling the players, clubs were also having a lot of expenses.
It can be seen from the financial report of dortmund during the previous season. Even though dortmund was making some huge transfers, but team was not getting huge profits.

Don't you realize that in every transfer window at the start of the season, Dortmund always sells its star players, but the fact is that Dortmund can always be Bayern Munich's toughest competitor in the Bundesliga. With that said, the departure of a key Dortmund player whether it's financially beneficial or not, I think it's still profitable for Dortmund because they've always done that. But one thing we have to remember is how much Dortmund has sold its key players, but Dortmund will also be able to compete in the race for the Bundesliga title.
Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy

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June 21, 2023, 11:09:23 PM
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I think Xabi Alonso is one of the few successful coaches who became a coach after becoming a football player. If we count Xavi, who also gave Barça a new tactical advantage, this is a success that has been less in recent years. I look at the extension of the contract by Bayer Leverkusen with certainty. I expect them to have great success this year as well.
Xabi was successful coach for leverkusen to help it leave from relegation zone. it's different personal. Xabi was able changing leverkusen so much. It's not only from the descipline of players, increasing the ball possessions owner by the club through implementing tiki taka to the leverkusen and many more.
I think that if leverkusen gonna be one if strong contender to win the league like bayern or dortmund. As far as i know that if this is also making xabi is also making the club to be even more careful with its defending strategy.
Xabi may have bette squad this year compared with last year. As you can see that xabi already signed during the middle of season and he has no choice to make some transfers caused by the transfer season already closed.

The fact that if xabi may potentially push its club to be able compete in the top place against bayern and dortmund next season.

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June 22, 2023, 02:51:24 AM
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Maybe a new coach will be free agent and on the market soon.

Some people in Germany voice their opinion against German national coach Hansi Flick and it's getting louder every day.
After the recent terrible games of the national team some German football personalities are openly discussing if Flick should be sacked even before the Euro, that would be something.

They way they play and his ignorance to listen to players and analysts to change the tactical lineup to 4 defenders I think latest after the Euro he will be gone. They will achieve nothing at the Euro anyway.

SO what's next for him? Maybe Tuchel won't deliver again at Bayern (let's be honest, he just got super lucky) and then they might try getting Flick back. He was super successful with them and one of the reasons he lest was his bad relationship with Hasan Salihamidžić. Now that Hasan is gone, maybe that opens the door.

I know it's a lot of speculation but I think this might actually happen within the next 12 months or so.

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That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.
Since 2000 it really belongs to Bayern Munich, only a few seasons where they failed to win the Bundesliga, and Borussia Dortmund have won the Bundesliga twice in a row when Jurgen Klopp was with them as manager after that you will only see the name Bayern Munich as Bundesliga champions, maybe Borussia Dortmund can stick with their strategy of making money and continuing to sell their best players at high prices but if they are also managed by a manager who is good at strategy then becoming a Bundesliga champion by sticking to their business style of making money can still be done, maybe by spending more money to bring in a better manager than the current one will allow them to become champions, I mean Edin Terzić is a good manager because he has led Dortmund to win the 2020-2021 DFB Cup but they need more than that.

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June 22, 2023, 03:19:37 AM
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What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.
In a football club money is very important because club finances can make the club stronger by buying qualified players.
This happened to Dortmund maybe because they really wanted and focused on the Champions League which is a very valuable League for any club.
But if you think about it correctly, I'm also not sure that Dortmund can have that title because their opponent is another big club that is far more powerful.

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund is still lagging behind Bayern Munich and this should be a lesson for Dortmund so that in the future they can focus on the Domestic League first before aiming to win a trophy in another, higher league.

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June 22, 2023, 07:44:24 AM
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What they have done in the last season is about what they did in the seasons before as well. i mean the overall result. But when their goal is to finally overturn Bayern's dominance in the Bundesliga, the result has to be much better this time and I say much better because I don't believe that Bayern will underdeliver again like they did last season. Often times when Bayern got into danger or their titles got into danger, the response was that they became much better afterwards. And it would be nothing but a surprise if they have the same chaos again. Therefore, if Dortmund wants the top of the table, there can't be any excuses in any of the games that are a must win game on paper. They have to meet the expectations then.

That's their business and how they earn money for their team. Maybe their first goal is to earn money and just be on top of the table to get the champions league ticket.
Been more than ten years since we didn't see Dortmund win the Bundesliga title and from what we can see they are not even trying hard for it.
In a football club money is very important because club finances can make the club stronger by buying qualified players.
This happened to Dortmund maybe because they really wanted and focused on the Champions League which is a very valuable League for any club.
But if you think about it correctly, I'm also not sure that Dortmund can have that title because their opponent is another big club that is far more powerful.

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund is still lagging behind Bayern Munich and this should be a lesson for Dortmund so that in the future they can focus on the Domestic League first before aiming to win a trophy in another, higher league.

@tusandii we have held this discussion many times and each season they have repeated the same mistakes i.e. selling their best player’s and now with Jude gone I wonder how will they compete in the Bundesliga. Furthermore unless they stop selling and buy a ready made superstar this season I doubt that we will see them win the Bundesliga this season too and I guess that means Bayern will comfortably win the Bundesliga again.
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June 22, 2023, 07:59:33 AM
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Economically speaking, the transfer policy and style of Borussia Dortmund has been very profitable to the club's management and that I think has been the reason why they've been repeatedly selling their best players during the transfer windows.
However, I think it's high time they begin to allow their best player to remain at the club for a longer time and help the club win major football trophies. Bayern Munich's dominance in the German Bundesliga is as a result Dortmund's transfer policy
It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

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June 22, 2023, 08:06:21 AM
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It looks like if Dortmund are able to retain their best players I think it will not be difficult for Dortmund to dominate matches in the Bundesliga but the question is whether Dortmund can retain their best players? while there are lots of rumors that Dortmund still want to sell their best players like Bellingham.
not sure in this summer whether Dortmund can dominate the bundesliga or even just finish as runner up again. but even being runner up is a bit tough.

Bellingham has already been signed by Real Madrid yeah. And it looks like there are more to come as well. However losing one of their important players has made them weaker temporarily. But I expect Dortmund to fill his place with another talented player as soon as possible.

In the same way we will see if there will be others leaving the team as well. Dortmund are full of skilled young players and they always keep the squad that way to apply their vision. We will always continue to see this kind of players coming and leaving. It might be sad to lose some of them right away maybe but at least the profit is really big.

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June 22, 2023, 08:08:33 AM
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But if you think about it correctly, I'm also not sure that Dortmund can have that title because their opponent is another big club that is far more powerful.

For the Bundesliga itself, Dortmund is still lagging behind Bayern Munich and this should be a lesson for Dortmund so that in the future they can focus on the Domestic League first before aiming to win a trophy in another, higher league.
For all football teams, money is most important thing and with much money new teams can buy any kinds of trophies,  regarding with Manchester City progress winning Primer League until UEFA Champion League tittle can't separated how their build teams with much money. I think Bundesliga have change the rule of owner sharing with how much percent and new investor has chance for getting more than 50% of ownership in one team.

Dortmund seems priority with the money than winning tittle on every season, looks with current transfer players Dortmund leave by many star player every season and selling them with higher values make them earn much profit for every season. Dortmund have balanced with business but looks they can't dominance for winning Bundesliga on every season.

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