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June 28, 2023, 02:35:14 PM
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It is true that the Bundesliga will forever be dominated by a single club, namely Bayern Munich and until now there is still no other team that has been able to replace the throne for many seasons. Maybe for Dortmund, Leipzig, or even Union Berlin, which had threatened the bundesliga title last season, it was as if Bayen Munchen only considered passing wind and that meant nothing. However, even so last season Dortmund had threatened the bundesliga title but it did not go smoothly because in the end they failed to win in the last game.

Now the competition between the teams is only to fight for the top 4 of the standings and Bayern Munich will still be in the top position without any interruptions. A little note for Dortmund, they should start prioritizing titles for the team instead of continuing to do the business of selling players on a regular basis.

Bayern didn't have much dominance last season, but Dortmund were never able to take advantage of it. Probably for such a championship as the Bundesliga there will not be much competition for a long time, because for this it is necessary that some other club besides Bayern could attract very good funding, as is currently happening in the Premier League.
But in medium leagues like the Bundesliga, or the Liga 1 in France, it's normal for one team to dominate, because the leagues aren't that popular and there's already a strong leader that will be hard to beat.

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June 28, 2023, 02:59:53 PM
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If you check you can see Dortmund is a team with lots of potential and when they play in Germany they have fans in the stadiums more than any team and this can be a reason to say they are one of the most popular teams in Germany.
But still, Dortmund should sometimes save some players for next season and instead of thinking about earing more money sometimes they have to put winning the Bundesliga title as first priority.
Bundesliga league can be fully predictable because it's only dominated by a singular club, Bayern Munich. Borrusia Dortmund is an outstanding club in the bundesliga, and they compete with the Bavarians, who always manage to win everything in the bundesliga. Borussia Dortmund has no shortage of quality when it comes to players; every season, they develop good potential players who are capable of becoming top contenders for titles; however, it appears that this club is not serious about winning titles; instead, they are entirely focused on making enormous profits from the sale of their talented players to elite clubs.
Dortmund isn't outstanding. They are only good in terms of discovering good talents and helping them grow well and understand their team. They don't give those players a chance to stay and understand the team fully. They don't give these players chance to lay the foundation of the team and become legends.
Imagine if Adeyemi, Brandt, Sebastian, Jude Bellingham and the rest of the young stars,  all grew to meet Halaand in the team,  and they were given a long-term contract of 4 years, this square will be so deadly and formidable enough to compete with Bayern or even over through them. But Dortmund doesn't have such a competent team.

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June 28, 2023, 03:04:54 PM
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I'm wondering how Dortmund is going to perform in the next season with their key player because they sold Jude to Real Madrid and got enough money for it, they can now hire hire other players to fill this position in their teams but the during I Know prefers to use the money to grow young talents instead of the hiring superstar players even if if they lose the title for the next season but that's how their bussness works.

You don't have to worry about Dortmund and also, you don't have to doubt Dortmund's quality and ability. Because after all, every season Dortmund always produces great players and then sells them but yes, the reality is that Dortmund still have the ability to compete in the top four. Therefore, it's not surprising that Dortmund always sell their key players because in fact, Dortmund also always manages to produce new ones to become key players in the team, whether it's from recruiting or just maximizing the potential of every player in the squad.

If you check you can see Dortmund is a team with lots of potential and when they play in Germany they have fans in the stadiums more than any team and this can be a reason to say they are one of the most popular teams in Germany.
But still, Dortmund should sometimes save some players for next season and instead of thinking about earing more money sometimes they have to put winning the Bundesliga title as first priority.
Dortmund don't even care if they sell their players because they are always capable of building young players,  so keeping their talented players for a longtime is not cool for them instead they will prefer to sell them out for a huge amount of money, this has been the system of Dortmund and  I'm very sure they are very aware of what they are doing.  Dortmund is much concerned of making money by selling their players for good amount of money.

Despite Dortmund always sell their key players every season they still always try their best to end the season with good position in the Bundesliga League in every league.

It will be really great if Dortmund can change their ways by becoming too tasty for winning trophies as their main target, and if they eventually make winning trophies as a priority it be difficult for them to win trophies because they have players that are good and bring trophies.

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June 28, 2023, 03:35:34 PM
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Actually talking about current talent there is one that can be looked at for next season like now they will try to maximize Ryan Gravenberch or Musiala but indeed this is back again they are only midfielders trying to improve the quality of attacks but there is still no striker who can be used as benchmark in this case.
As you said buying with money is a short way to do it but until now they haven't done that yet and their focus is still on Kane. I was expecting other options but until now when talking about strikers Bayern still seem to be focused on Kane and when that doesn't work it will be a bit of a problem.

There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again.
Bayern Munich may have been struggling with their offensive issues for a while expecting that young players from their own youth teams would step up and save the day, but the truth is that the game has advanced quickly. Patience is a luxury few football players can afford in today fast paced environment. It seems like a long time ago when a player like Thomas Muller who Louis van Gaal identified and developed first broke through. The club need on quick fixes and large investments illustrates the hurry they are in. Sadly the diminishing chances for young players to prove themselves in the first squad only make the problem worse. Bayern Munich is caught between the need for immediate success and the desire for domestic success underlining the difficulties of juggling long term development with pressing necessities in the always changing world of football.
Nothing is perfect but I hope Tuchel can make very good changes to improve the club next season. Let me believe that the star of Bayern is not shining brighter as before, yet they still luckily win the season, so I will complain less. They did gamble with some young lads before and it worked for them, this is as they expected the presence of the older stars there to cover that up. There could be a mistake in the line, and if you look at Bayern, they didn't spend much money this season, they even spent lesser on strikers, but rather did a bit more with their defence.

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June 28, 2023, 03:47:43 PM
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I don't remember Union Berlin joining the Champions League before. This must be their first time I assume. Therefore they are going to be an inexperienced team in the tournament. However I'm pretty sure they will care about it much more than the Europa League. Because they can increase their income significantly by getting positive results as much as possbile.
They need to get lucky with the draw as well though. If they have a really tough group in which all teams look challenging then Union Berlin might not do much. Even if they drop down to the Europa League at the end it would be great for them anyway.
Union Berlin needs to improve far enough if they want to perform well and be able to compete in the Champions League next season, although they get an easy draw and can qualify for the group phase the knockout stage will certainly be different and difficult to survive when facing other teams who have good experience in this tournament, maybe Union Berlin will focus more on domestic competitions to be able to finish in the top four again while continuing to develop their team more and more It's even better.
The Europa League may be different but wherever they will compete they have to prepare well and with the same good core and reserve players so there will be no obstacles when rotating skuad because they have to play many games due to competing in several tournaments.


Well, I was actually interested to see if they actually qualified for the Champions League competition previously. I actually googled it and this is actually the first time they have finished in the top four and they are going to play in the Champions League competition. It is going to be very interesting to see how they perform. I think we all can agree that Union Berlin has improved a lot in terms of performance.

It will be understandable if Union Berlin is going to be more interested to perform better in the Bundesliga instead of the Champions League. But I think they should at least try and see how the Champions League competition turns out for them. Of course, even though they have improved, they have not improved in such a way that they will be able to win the Champions League competition. But let’s not underestimate them.

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June 28, 2023, 04:33:40 PM
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I don't remember Union Berlin joining the Champions League before. This must be their first time I assume. Therefore they are going to be an inexperienced team in the tournament. However I'm pretty sure they will care about it much more than the Europa League. Because they can increase their income significantly by getting positive results as much as possbile.
They need to get lucky with the draw as well though. If they have a really tough group in which all teams look challenging then Union Berlin might not do much. Even if they drop down to the Europa League at the end it would be great for them anyway.
Union Berlin needs to improve far enough if they want to perform well and be able to compete in the Champions League next season, although they get an easy draw and can qualify for the group phase the knockout stage will certainly be different and difficult to survive when facing other teams who have good experience in this tournament, maybe Union Berlin will focus more on domestic competitions to be able to finish in the top four again while continuing to develop their team more and more It's even better.
The Europa League may be different but wherever they will compete they have to prepare well and with the same good core and reserve players so there will be no obstacles when rotating skuad because they have to play many games due to competing in several tournaments.
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Well, I was actually interested to see if they actually qualified for the Champions League competition previously. I actually googled it and this is actually the first time they have finished in the top four and they are going to play in the Champions League competition. It is going to be very interesting to see how they perform. I think we all can agree that Union Berlin has improved a lot in terms of performance.

It will be understandable if Union Berlin is going to be more interested to perform better in the Bundesliga instead of the Champions League. But I think they should at least try and see how the Champions League competition turns out for them. Of course, even though they have improved, they have not improved in such a way that they will be able to win the Champions League competition. But let’s not underestimate them.
It will be a new challenge for Union Berlin in the Champions League, they must be more prepared to put out a good performance. Previously, Union Berlin officially signed Mikkel Kaufmann from FC Copenhagen, and now there are interesting rumors about Union Berlin targeting Robin Gosens, the Inter Milan defender will make Union Berlin defense even more solid. If they succeed in signing him, it seems like Union Berlin will be ready to start a new challenge.

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June 28, 2023, 05:06:40 PM
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It will be a new challenge for Union Berlin in the Champions League, they must be more prepared to put out a good performance. Previously, Union Berlin officially signed Mikkel Kaufmann from FC Copenhagen, and now there are interesting rumors about Union Berlin targeting Robin Gosens, the Inter Milan defender will make Union Berlin defense even more solid. If they succeed in signing him, it seems like Union Berlin will be ready to start a new challenge.
Union Berlin hasnt played bad international the last season and i guess or i think that they are ready for playing in the Champions League.
But we all know that it will be hard there to survive as we have it seen from Frankfurt last season.

If its true that Union Berlin really make it and get Robin Gosens that would be good for Berlin and also for the German League.
It would be a big plus for them , i also think that Gosens would be fit into the Dortmund squad.

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June 28, 2023, 06:19:44 PM
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Hmm I doubt Harry Kane will leave EPL to join a lower league like Bundesliga. I can understand La Liga move but I don't think he will be interested in other offers.
Real Madrid was a recent target that seems to pull itself from him. I don't recall other news

The media write something different. The first offer was rejected by the responsibles. It iwas about 70 million plus special payments. But Kane and Bayern Munich are said to be in agreement and Bayern Munich is his favourite. His contract still has one year to run and I think that if there is no transfer this year, he will certainly join Bayern Munich next year.

Tottenham knows they should not lose a player like Harry Kane who is loyal to his and that's why as far as I know Bayern Munich should spend 100m for this player and the offer the sent is much lower than this. However, Bayern Munich needs a forward like Kane for their next season but spending this huge amount of money is not something Bayern wants to do.


I don't remember Union Berlin joining the Champions League before. This must be their first time I assume. Therefore they are going to be an inexperienced team in the tournament. However I'm pretty sure they will care about it much more than the Europa League. Because they can increase their income significantly by getting positive results as much as possbile.

They need to get lucky with the draw as well though. If they have a really tough group in which all teams look challenging then Union Berlin might not do much. Even if they drop down to the Europa League at the end it would be great for them anyway.

Me too I never saw Union Berlin playing in the champions league too and I think that's the first time for this team to play in the Champions League. However, they need to do some more investments for this team now and hire better players and coaches for the next season because, with the potential they have, I don't think Union Berlin can achieve anything there or even race with other teams with expensive players they have.


https://www.uefa.com/uefachampionsleague/history/clubs/77977--union-berlin/

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June 28, 2023, 06:21:43 PM
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Regarding Harry Kane and Bayern Munich, we know the case is not going to be solved by paying more money and regardless of the money, Bayern Munich have to pay for hiring this player. The main problem is Kane is very much loyal to his team Tottenham, also Tottenham said they are not going to sell to any teams including Bayern Munich.  
If there is no agreement from one of the parties, of course any sale will not occur. This includes what you said because apart from Harry Kane who is still very much at home in the Premier League, he is also still very much at home at Tottenham. So it is very unlikely for any other team to get Harry Kane, unless there is a special change in the minds of the Tottenham management to make the deal happen even if not with Bayern Munich.

As quoted by journalist Ben Jacobs, that "Bayern Munich will test Daniel Levy's resolve with a better bid of around £80 million" for Kane. Spurs still intend to turn down any offers, but Bayern are prepared to apply further pressure on them. it seems, Thomas Tuchel is still determined to bring in the Striker they are after.
in addition, German reports claim he already has a deal in principle with Bayern. unfortunately, I doubt the legitimacy of the report from the German newspaper. even so, as I said before. I'm pretty sure Bayern will make a second offer to Spurs. and it seems that in the near future Bayern will launch their bid for Kane.

If, the Spurs remain adamant to defend it. I'm not sure if any club is willing to sign him for £100 million. so, if the report by Ben Jacobs is true. supposedly, both clubs are equally in profit. Bayern brought Kane to Bavaria, and in return Spurs got a decent price. Instead, Spurs will lose Harry Kane if they don't let him go in this summer's transfer window. because Kane's contract with Spurs will expire on June 30, 2024.
For Manchester United, I'm not sure, as the club's acquisition problems have made it difficult for Ten Hag to bring in the players he needs.

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June 28, 2023, 06:40:15 PM
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Bayern didn't have much dominance last season, but Dortmund were never able to take advantage of it. Probably for such a championship as the Bundesliga there will not be much competition for a long time, because for this it is necessary that some other club besides Bayern could attract very good funding, as is currently happening in the Premier League.
But in medium leagues like the Bundesliga, or the Liga 1 in France, it's normal for one team to dominate, because the leagues aren't that popular and there's already a strong leader that will be hard to beat.
I agree that Dortmund had a lot of moments where they could have won and they ended up losing points left and right, I agree that it wasn't really a good look. I know that it is going to hurt a lot for the next decade or so if they keep losing the championship but if they end up being better and end up getting the title next season then it is going to be less hurtful to remember, because they got their revenge at least.

So, this season will be very important for them because winning it makes everything about this season a lot better and after all it is a title win so it is always good in that case. They made such a good chunk of money from Jude deal as well so it is not going to be that much of a trouble for them at all to get players who might help with that.

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It will be a new challenge for Union Berlin in the Champions League, they must be more prepared to put out a good performance. Previously, Union Berlin officially signed Mikkel Kaufmann from FC Copenhagen, and now there are interesting rumors about Union Berlin targeting Robin Gosens, the Inter Milan defender will make Union Berlin defense even more solid. If they succeed in signing him, it seems like Union Berlin will be ready to start a new challenge.

Improvement is not going to happen suddenly. It is going to happen gradually. I am also sure that eventually, they will be able to bring in more better players to the squad. I think already more players should be interested in Union Berlin. Because playing in the Champions League alone can make a club interested towards players,

Union Berlin hasnt played bad international the last season and i guess or i think that they are ready for playing in the Champions League.
But we all know that it will be hard there to survive as we have it seen from Frankfurt last season.

If its true that Union Berlin really make it and get Robin Gosens that would be good for Berlin and also for the German League.
It would be a big plus for them , i also think that Gosens would be fit into the Dortmund squad.

I think Union Berlin actually needs to get strikers on the team. Because in the last season union, Berlin was actually unable to score enough goals. But they defended decently because they conceded the same amount of goals as Bayern Munich. So I think they will need to score more and also play attacking football. Getting attackers, at least better attackers is going to make them more fearless.

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June 28, 2023, 07:12:52 PM
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There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again.
In fact, such things have long been possible to hedge competently, simply by competently drawing up the transfer conditions. Well, I think that it will not reach 100 million euros, given the age of the player, although something close to this may well be formed taking into account some bonuses, such as that a player plays a certain number of matches in a season and scores a certain number of goals and then the amount for the transfer increases. I think Tottenham have two options for the sale price of Kane. One price, which is much higher for English clubs and another price is less for clubs not from England.

There isn't really much of a reason for them to charge less when he goes abroad to a club like Bayern Munich or Real Madrid. Both clubs don't care about minor differences in price and are able to stem a transfer of that magnitude. But with everything that has happened in the transfer market over the years, I still think that 100 million for Harry Kane is too much. Though if they can solve the issues all at once when they get him, it would be worth the money, but is Kane this kind of player who can play in any team and be successful? Or could he maybe have trouble to get a long with a new environment and different conditions like Mané?

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June 28, 2023, 07:43:52 PM
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I think Union Berlin actually needs to get strikers on the team. Because in the last season union, Berlin was actually unable to score enough goals. But they defended decently because they conceded the same amount of goals as Bayern Munich. So I think they will need to score more and also play attacking football. Getting attackers, at least better attackers is going to make them more fearless.
Dont know if they are already looking for an Striker but they have a few very good players that have scored many Goals in the season and also international.
And if they can get Robin Gosens that would be getting them an always dangerous forward on the left side and also a player that is good on defending.
Specialy on the left side he can for sure bring some very good reinforcement to the Team.

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June 28, 2023, 07:53:18 PM
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It is really like a cycle in the Bundesliga. Bayern Munich win the Bundesliga title all the time no matter what happens in a season. You have all seen that this season was a huge opportunity to end their title series. But Dortmund managed to do the near impossible thing and lost points against Mainz home. It just looks like there is really no way to get out of this cycle for now. But at least I want to enjoy the title competition even if we know what team become the champions in the end.

Dortmund still look like the only team that can maintain this title race for now. They can just continue to implement their vision by highly profitable player sales. However they should be able to stay in the title race as much as possible to prevent the season from turning into a boring one.

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June 28, 2023, 08:00:27 PM
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Dortmund still look like the only team that can maintain this title race for now. They can just continue to implement their vision by highly profitable player sales. However they should be able to stay in the title race as much as possible to prevent the season from turning into a boring one.
I don't know how long it will take before Dortmund gets another chance like they did last season, when i think about it i cannot still believe that Dortmund lost that opportunity and i don't know how their players can manage to forget about that disappointment. If Bayern's domination of the bundesliga was to end, it would have been last season because they were not playing well, but since it didn't happen then, i am not optimistic that it is going to happen anytime soon again, they will continue to make the bundesliga a very boring league.

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June 28, 2023, 08:01:12 PM
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It will be a new challenge for Union Berlin in the Champions League, they must be more prepared to put out a good performance. Previously, Union Berlin officially signed Mikkel Kaufmann from FC Copenhagen, and now there are interesting rumors about Union Berlin targeting Robin Gosens, the Inter Milan defender will make Union Berlin defense even more solid. If they succeed in signing him, it seems like Union Berlin will be ready to start a new challenge.
Union Berlin hasnt played bad international the last season and i guess or i think that they are ready for playing in the Champions League.
But we all know that it will be hard there to survive as we have it seen from Frankfurt last season.

If its true that Union Berlin really make it and get Robin Gosens that would be good for Berlin and also for the German League.
It would be a big plus for them , i also think that Gosens would be fit into the Dortmund squad.

If he can bring Gosens, Union Berlin will have made a really good transfer. The German player adapts to the Bundesliga in a short time. He left behind a successful season at Inter. He played in UCL in 11 matches and it was a great experience for him. Union Berlin should definitely bring him to the team.

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June 28, 2023, 08:19:19 PM
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If he can bring Gosens, Union Berlin will have made a really good transfer. The German player adapts to the Bundesliga in a short time. He left behind a successful season at Inter. He played in UCL in 11 matches and it was a great experience for him. Union Berlin should definitely bring him to the team.

That would really be a magnificent coup from Union Berlin. With Robin Gosens they would get a good player. Robin is only 22 years old and if he should go from Inter to Union Berlin, it shows that Union Berlin has developed into a serious club in a very short time.
But his market value is about 15-20 million euros and that would be a very huge sum for Union Berlin.
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June 28, 2023, 09:33:40 PM
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The last Bundesliga season was amazing until the last moment when Dortmund lost the chance again to win the title, I think Union Berlin also had a good performance and they got the champions league title for the first time while I was not expecting to see teams like Union Berlin have this good performance and they were even racing with Dortmund and Bayern Munich for some a few weeks. Maybe it's time for Union Berlin to get more energy for the next season and try to achieve more goals since they're going to play in the champions league.

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June 29, 2023, 12:39:43 AM
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The last Bundesliga season was amazing until the last moment when Dortmund lost the chance again to win the title, I think Union Berlin also had a good performance and they got the champions league title for the first time while I was not expecting to see teams like Union Berlin have this good performance and they were even racing with Dortmund and Bayern Munich for some a few weeks. Maybe it's time for Union Berlin to get more energy for the next season and try to achieve more goals since they're going to play in the champions league.
It was amazing and interesting to watch clubs in the bundesliga perform so differently from the rest. Union Berlin matched up energy with Dortmund and Bayern Munich this season, it was a tough fight for the bundesliga title, I'm never relenting in my efforts, I've witnessed good times for these clubs to surpass the Bavarians and lead race to win the domestic league, they turned down their chances and it's always possible to try again next season, afterall they know how it feels to be at the top but they lack the confidence and consistency to maintain that streak winning range.

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June 29, 2023, 04:24:06 AM
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I don't remember Union Berlin joining the Champions League before. This must be their first time I assume. Therefore they are going to be an inexperienced team in the tournament. However I'm pretty sure they will care about it much more than the Europa League. Because they can increase their income significantly by getting positive results as much as possbile.

They need to get lucky with the draw as well though. If they have a really tough group in which all teams look challenging then Union Berlin might not do much. Even if they drop down to the Europa League at the end it would be great for them anyway.
Union Berlin needs to improve far enough if they want to perform well and be able to compete in the Champions League next season, although they get an easy draw and can qualify for the group phase the knockout stage will certainly be different and difficult to survive when facing other teams who have good experience in this tournament, maybe Union Berlin will focus more on domestic competitions to be able to finish in the top four again while continuing to develop their team more and more It's even better.
The Europa League may be different but wherever they will compete they have to prepare well and with the same good core and reserve players so there will be no obstacles when rotating skuad because they have to play many games due to competing in several tournaments.

Union Berlin was promote on season 2018 and since that they can managed their position and playing at european competitions and next season Union Berlin will be very busy because playing at champion league but they have to upgrade their squad because many strong teams were available at champion league so if Union Berlin want advance to next round then they should be buy some of good quality players this summer

I think one of successful key from Union Berlin to finish at 4th place is they can utilized home matches with very well and last season Union Berlin became an the team who very strong at their home and i have seen their statistics that during play for home matches Union Berlin was unbeatable they even can able to beat several strong teams such as Leipzig, Dortmund and draw from Bayern Munich so i think this is fantastic records because Union Berlin is the team with lack of star players but at Europa League their journey have to stopped at round of 16 because lose from Union Saint-Gilloise

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