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June 29, 2023, 02:41:28 PM
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Well, every Bayern Munich fan is hoping for the best for Thomas Tuchel's work on the team, and currently, the Harry Kane trade is on hold, and Victor Osimhen is currently in process with Napoli and Bayern Munich talks I am really hoping for Bayern Munich to get a good Striker this time with a caliber like Lewandowski or Halaand, or maybe near that but Victor Osimhen is younger than Kane so he can likely improve with the training that will be given to him, and for Thomas Tuchel it could likely have a great outcome,



Personally for me, i think Harry Kane would be a better signing for Tuchel than Osimhen and this is based on the success rates of Thomas Tuchel with fluidy center forward like Kane as opposed in box center forwards like Osimhen.. Thomas Tuchel as always been more successful in his career with a fluid attacking team and a fluidy center forward upfront like in Dortmund with Auba and in Psg with Mbappe and also in Chelsea with Kai upfront.. Although on the other hand with In Box Strikers here hasn't been many Scenarios and proofs to back up that fact, except for maybe Lukaku at Chelsea and a few insignificant others... But i personally feel Kane will be a more experienced and good center forward to boost up Thomas Tuchels Team!!!

@Xabalo1 if Bayern can secure Kane transfer then they’ll secure a player who can guarantee them lots of goals and therefore they should target him over any other striker. Furthermore Tuchel is an excellent coach but he’ll need player’s to implement his system hence it’ll be interesting to see how much will Bayern back him and if they don’t then it’ll be very difficult for him to defend his newly won league title.
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June 29, 2023, 02:46:07 PM
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With the current squad at Bayern Munich, Harry Kane will definitely be banging goals for fun for them come next season if by any means Bayern secures his signature.
Tottenham Hotspur management knows that Harry Kane is one of the major reason why Tottenham are still recognized as a big English club and would not want let him leave their club. But a player of Kane's Calibre is supposed to be winning trophies at this time of his career and if he truly wants to win trophies before retiring from Football, then he should leave Tottenham this summer

Well, Bayern Munich is nearing an agreement for Harry Kane but it was halted because of Napoli star Victor Osimhen, well I think Tottenham is demanding €90m and rejected the 1st offer of €70m, but Napoli had an offer €180m asking price but will offer more than €100m for Osimhen and Bayern would rather get a 24-year-old striker Osimhen than getting the 30 years old Harry Kane, well PSG and  Liverpool are also interested with Striker Oshimhen, but likely Bayern would be in the near edge in getting Osimhen than Harry Kane but surely they will take a young start that likely they can improve in their team,
70 millions for Kane was rejected by Tottenham but Bayern Munich hasn't give up yet because recently they had just raised their bid to 83 millions apparently Bayern Munich will make Kane as their priority this summer because they dare to spend a lot of money to gets him and some people believe Bayern Munich will not stopped because if 83 million are rejected again then they will offering third bid which is the price probably will higher than that and i think if talking about transfer fee Bayern and Tottenham may reach an agreement because possible Bayern Munich will agree to pay according to Tottenham demand but the situations will became so complicated and Kane probably will not willing to left Tottenham or playing outsides England because of family reason

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June 29, 2023, 02:57:56 PM
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Well, every Bayern Munich fan is hoping for the best for Thomas Tuchel's work on the team, and currently, the Harry Kane trade is on hold, and Victor Osimhen is currently in process with Napoli and Bayern Munich talks I am really hoping for Bayern Munich to get a good Striker this time with a caliber like Lewandowski or Halaand, or maybe near that but Victor Osimhen is younger than Kane so he can likely improve with the training that will be given to him, and for Thomas Tuchel it could likely have a great outcome,



Personally for me, i think Harry Kane would be a better signing for Tuchel than Osimhen and this is based on the success rates of Thomas Tuchel with fluidy center forward like Kane as opposed in box center forwards like Osimhen.. Thomas Tuchel as always been more successful in his career with a fluid attacking team and a fluidy center forward upfront like in Dortmund with Auba and in Psg with Mbappe and also in Chelsea with Kai upfront.. Although on the other hand with In Box Strikers here hasn't been many Scenarios and proofs to back up that fact, except for maybe Lukaku at Chelsea and a few insignificant others... But i personally feel Kane will be a more experienced and good center forward to boost up Thomas Tuchels Team!!!

@Xabalo1 if Bayern can secure Kane transfer then they’ll secure a player who can guarantee them lots of goals and therefore they should target him over any other striker. Furthermore Tuchel is an excellent coach but he’ll need player’s to implement his system hence it’ll be interesting to see how much will Bayern back him and if they don’t then it’ll be very difficult for him to defend his newly won league title.

Yes i agree with you, Thomas Tuchel is a very excellent and dynamic coach but for him to thrive the team needs to back him so he can influence his style and game play to the team and i think thats why Kane was the first sought on player by them, i feel he is really Tuchels first choice and they should just get him over Osimhen... and someone like Cancelo should be retained because his style of play should really work well for Tuchel when he diverts back to his back 3 formation... The Bundesliga last season was a narrow win for Bayern and i think Tuchel was brought in at the wrong time which lead to a whole lot of experimenting from him! But everything is good now and if they back him in this transfer window with the already strong squad they have, then Bayern munich will really be a force to reckon with in the league and also at the Champions league
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Well, every Bayern Munich fan is hoping for the best for Thomas Tuchel's work on the team, and currently, the Harry Kane trade is on hold, and Victor Osimhen is currently in process with Napoli and Bayern Munich talks I am really hoping for Bayern Munich to get a good Striker this time with a caliber like Lewandowski or Halaand, or maybe near that but Victor Osimhen is younger than Kane so he can likely improve with the training that will be given to him, and for Thomas Tuchel it could likely have a great outcome,



Personally for me, i think Harry Kane would be a better signing for Tuchel than Osimhen and this is based on the success rates of Thomas Tuchel with fluidy center forward like Kane as opposed in box center forwards like Osimhen.. Thomas Tuchel as always been more successful in his career with a fluid attacking team and a fluidy center forward upfront like in Dortmund with Auba and in Psg with Mbappe and also in Chelsea with Kai upfront.. Although on the other hand with In Box Strikers here hasn't been many Scenarios and proofs to back up that fact, except for maybe Lukaku at Chelsea and a few insignificant others... But i personally feel Kane will be a more experienced and good center forward to boost up Thomas Tuchels Team!!!

They are thinking about a forward to shine for them as Lewandowski did in the past, hire a forward at this level can't be easy even for a team like Bayern Munich, they are still tracking Harry Kane, but we know Kane is LOyal to his teams and Tottenham will not lose this player easily, That's why they need to pay him more but I think there can be still some other options for Bayern Munich.

No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.
As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.

We should not forget that Dortmund was basically bankrupt in the early 2000's because they made so much debts with stupid transfers in the years before that. Then Jürgen Klopp became the coach of Dortmund and then they started to rise again and they won the Bundesliga two times with him and they even made it into the final of the Champions League.
In the last few years it became their business model to buy young talents and then sell them again for high amounts of money.
It was the best of times for Borussia Dortmund when Jurgen Klopp was with them as manager, but after that, they could only be runners-up or DFB champions, and changing their business by selling their best players more often in the transfer market was their way of surviving in the first division as well as the income from the many sponsors because it takes a lot of money for one season to pay player salaries and so on, but I'm pretty sure they will be able to return to being champions of the Bundesliga while still maintaining their business style by selling star players, it's just that need a manager who can build a solid team to break Bayern Munich's dominance.


Dortmund was never a weak team and I think they are doing their business well, because they want to hire younger players and grow up these younger talents and then sell the players for a higher value to earn money, in fact, that's their first priority, and more important than winning the Bundesliga title.

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June 29, 2023, 05:09:46 PM
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Ha if it was that easy they would do it, but what you mention here is something that they have been quarreling with for quite a while now. They are still hoping for some younger talents from their own youth to finally tackle the challenge and make it into the first team of Bayern Munich. That would save them a lot of money and there wouldn't be the urgency all the time to do something about their offensive problems. But there is no Thomas Muller right now in their youth teams. Muller was the discovery of the year back then when Louis van Gaal gave him a chance. But the business has become too fast and you can't be patiently waiting for a talent to emerge from your own youth teams, you have to solve them problem immediately with cash. The chances for young talents from the own youth teams are also vanishing as they don't have time to prove they could be worth a try. 
Actually talking about current talent there is one that can be looked at for next season like now they will try to maximize Ryan Gravenberch or Musiala but indeed this is back again they are only midfielders trying to improve the quality of attacks but there is still no striker who can be used as benchmark in this case.
As you said buying with money is a short way to do it but until now they haven't done that yet and their focus is still on Kane. I was expecting other options but until now when talking about strikers Bayern still seem to be focused on Kane and when that doesn't work it will be a bit of a problem.

There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again.
Because indeed 70 million will not be looked at considering Tottenham's condition is still the same as only wanting to release 100 million+ for a Kane.
But there is an interesting thing now that the 70 million bid rejected is reportedly now Bayern back off the hunt for Kane and looking for other alternatives at this time.
Don't know if this is just their push and pull plan or if this is really the end of the Bayern and Kane drama but right now there are some reports suggesting they are trying to approach Osimhen for a new target.
Although it is said in this case it looks like it will be more difficult because Bayern only dared to pay 100 million for Osimhen even though looking at the current conditions Napoli opened an offer of 180 million for this player.
I don't know, but it looks like this offer is just playing, especially considering PSG have prepared 150 million for Osimhen if Mbappe really leaves this season.

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The last Bundesliga season was amazing until the last moment when Dortmund lost the chance again to win the title, I think Union Berlin also had a good performance and they got the champions league title for the first time while I was not expecting to see teams like Union Berlin have this good performance and they were even racing with Dortmund and Bayern Munich for some a few weeks. Maybe it's time for Union Berlin to get more energy for the next season and try to achieve more goals since they're going to play in the champions league.
It's unbelievable to see dortmund has been wasting one season of competition at the end of season. The last match against mainz has become the final match but dortmund was unable winning it. That's very sad to say that if dortmund was missing its opportunity after almost a decade.
I think that chance will not come for twice. Dortmund must be careful with it. It seems like that if bayern will be dominating the league again next season.
I hope that if everything will be right. Dortmund needs to find a new talent to replace bellingham and guerreiro that has been leaving from the club this season. It's a bit difficult to find someone who can replace bellingham.
Dortmnud must also try to rebuild its mentality to be even stronger again. I hope that the result like the match against mainz will not happen again.
They probably had all the pressure on their shoulders that they couldn't carry it. I know that everyone truly expected them to win it, but just like how Bayern offered them the chance to win a game prior, they also gave it back. Everyone talks about how Dortmund lost the title on the last game, but nobody really talks about how Bayern was ahead until then and gave the chance to Dortmund to win as well, basically Bayern did the same thing Dortmund did but they had time to recover and wait for Dortmund to lose and get it back.

If Dortmund won, that means Bayern would have been the one we talk about like this. Of course Bayern won 10+ in a row so it looks like they are going to be fine if they ever lose, whereas Dortmund hasn't won in over a decade so they really wanted it more.
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No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.

As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.

At least by selling some of its players, Dortmund has made a lot of profit. but for sure, I can't be sure how much net profit they get and how much they have spent as operational costs, salaries and others. but to survive in this competition, Dortmund continues to run its business in accordance with management's vision and mission.
To be honest, I rarely dig this far for all the information on a football team. however, we can speculate or make an analogy. to be sure, what is being done by Dortmund is very aware of its supporters. in particular, fans who come from their own country. because their fans know the system adopted by the Bundesliga with its 50+1. so, not many waves of protests by dortmund fans.

Unlike the case with Man United, when the Glazers were looking for more profit than what the Supporters expected, waves of protests came to criticize his policies.
Well, you know, uniquely, Dortmund has always been able to finish in the top 4 of the bundesliga even though several of their players have left for other clubs or leagues. they do not forget, apart from only creating young talents, Dortmund also still targets to remain competitive in the top 4 of the Bundesliga standings. in the next season, if luck is still close to them, maybe Dortmund will not waste the opportunity for the umpteenth time.

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It's unbelievable to see dortmund has been wasting one season of competition at the end of season. The last match against mainz has become the final match but dortmund was unable winning it. That's very sad to say that if dortmund was missing its opportunity after almost a decade.
I think that chance will not come for twice. Dortmund must be careful with it. It seems like that if bayern will be dominating the league again next season.
I hope that if everything will be right. Dortmund needs to find a new talent to replace bellingham and guerreiro that has been leaving from the club this season. It's a bit difficult to find someone who can replace bellingham.
Dortmnud must also try to rebuild its mentality to be even stronger again. I hope that the result like the match against mainz will not happen again.
They probably had all the pressure on their shoulders that they couldn't carry it. I know that everyone truly expected them to win it, but just like how Bayern offered them the chance to win a game prior, they also gave it back. Everyone talks about how Dortmund lost the title on the last game, but nobody really talks about how Bayern was ahead until then and gave the chance to Dortmund to win as well, basically Bayern did the same thing Dortmund did but they had time to recover and wait for Dortmund to lose and get it back.

If Dortmund won, that means Bayern would have been the one we talk about like this. Of course Bayern won 10+ in a row so it looks like they are going to be fine if they ever lose, whereas Dortmund hasn't won in over a decade so they really wanted it more.
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June 29, 2023, 06:49:07 PM
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According to the last transfer news from today from Dortmund it looks like that Can will maybe extending his contract there.
If that will be happen its also possible that the transfer about Edson Alvarez maybe can be canceled.
Source about that is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTkFZrpOFQ
Fingers crossed that Edson Alvarez is coming still to Dortmund even when Can gets a new contract.

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June 29, 2023, 06:51:41 PM
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No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.

As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.

Yes indeed, even though Dortmund continue to sell their best players but the fact is, Dortmund will still be fine and there is nothing to worry about for Dortmund. But indeed, if Dortmund really has the ambition to be better and stronger to win titles and trophies then of course, Dortmund must change this way or tradition. Therefore, Bayern Munich can consistently win the Bundesliga title, because its rival teams do not have big ambitions to win the Bundesliga title from season to season.
Borussia Dortmund always find a way to find the players they need, and it does every season. Many said that maybe when Borussia Dortmund left their star players would make it difficult for them, but they always showed new talents which in the end made them play stably even though they left many influential players in the team.
I'm actually looking forward to who the name will be big with Borussia Dortmund, and the possibility will be seen again.

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June 29, 2023, 06:57:42 PM
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No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.

As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.

Yes indeed, even though Dortmund continue to sell their best players but the fact is, Dortmund will still be fine and there is nothing to worry about for Dortmund. But indeed, if Dortmund really has the ambition to be better and stronger to win titles and trophies then of course, Dortmund must change this way or tradition. Therefore, Bayern Munich can consistently win the Bundesliga title, because its rival teams do not have big ambitions to win the Bundesliga title from season to season.
Borussia Dortmund always find a way to find the players they need, and it does every season. Many said that maybe when Borussia Dortmund left their star players would make it difficult for them, but they always showed new talents which in the end made them play stably even though they left many influential players in the team.
I'm actually looking forward to who the name will be big with Borussia Dortmund, and the possibility will be seen again.

The way Dortmund find players for their team is very much clear to me, they are investing in younger players and talents like Jude Bellingham and Haaland this way they find talents they need for their teams and then after investing just a few amounts of money on these players, they can sell players for a huge amount of money, just like what they did with these two players recently.

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No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.

As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.

Yes indeed, even though Dortmund continue to sell their best players but the fact is, Dortmund will still be fine and there is nothing to worry about for Dortmund. But indeed, if Dortmund really has the ambition to be better and stronger to win titles and trophies then of course, Dortmund must change this way or tradition. Therefore, Bayern Munich can consistently win the Bundesliga title, because its rival teams do not have big ambitions to win the Bundesliga title from season to season.
Actually, if Borussia dortmund wants to get the bundesliga cup, it will definitely be very easy, but borussia dortmund always sells their best players for business reasons for finances.
But lots of Borussia Dortmund fans want to occasionally make new history again without having to sell their best players.
Even if Dortmund cannot fully compete with Bayern Munich, being in second place is very safe.

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June 29, 2023, 07:04:55 PM
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Well, every Bayern Munich fan is hoping for the best for Thomas Tuchel's work on the team, and currently, the Harry Kane trade is on hold, and Victor Osimhen is currently in process with Napoli and Bayern Munich talks I am really hoping for Bayern Munich to get a good Striker this time with a caliber like Lewandowski or Halaand, or maybe near that but Victor Osimhen is younger than Kane so he can likely improve with the training that will be given to him, and for Thomas Tuchel it could likely have a great outcome,



Personally for me, i think Harry Kane would be a better signing for Tuchel than Osimhen and this is based on the success rates of Thomas Tuchel with fluidy center forward like Kane as opposed in box center forwards like Osimhen.. Thomas Tuchel as always been more successful in his career with a fluid attacking team and a fluidy center forward upfront like in Dortmund with Auba and in Psg with Mbappe and also in Chelsea with Kai upfront.. Although on the other hand with In Box Strikers here hasn't been many Scenarios and proofs to back up that fact, except for maybe Lukaku at Chelsea and a few insignificant others... But i personally feel Kane will be a more experienced and good center forward to boost up Thomas Tuchels Team!!!
Actually, looking at the price conditions, maybe Kane can be forced, even though with 100 million they have to spend because the below offer certainly won't be too eye-catching, but looking at it from the perspective of progress and age, it's clear that Osimhen can also be used as a benchmark.
But looking at Osimhen's offer, I still feel that this is just a diversion so that Tottenham lowers the price a little because we know that 70 million was rejected by Tottenham before and this could be a substitute while trying to sell Tottenham from behind so that they can reduce Kane's price.
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June 29, 2023, 07:49:18 PM
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Well, every Bayern Munich fan is hoping for the best for Thomas Tuchel's work on the team, and currently, the Harry Kane trade is on hold, and Victor Osimhen is currently in process with Napoli and Bayern Munich talks I am really hoping for Bayern Munich to get a good Striker this time with a caliber like Lewandowski or Halaand, or maybe near that but Victor Osimhen is younger than Kane so he can likely improve with the training that will be given to him, and for Thomas Tuchel it could likely have a great outcome,



Personally for me, i think Harry Kane would be a better signing for Tuchel than Osimhen and this is based on the success rates of Thomas Tuchel with fluidy center forward like Kane as opposed in box center forwards like Osimhen.. Thomas Tuchel as always been more successful in his career with a fluid attacking team and a fluidy center forward upfront like in Dortmund with Auba and in Psg with Mbappe and also in Chelsea with Kai upfront.. Although on the other hand with In Box Strikers here haven't been many Scenarios and proofs to back up that fact, except for maybe Lukaku at Chelsea and a few insignificant others... But i feel Kane will be a more experienced and good center forward to boost up Thomas Tuchels Team!!!
, looking at the price conditions, maybe Kane can be forced, even though with 100 million they have to spend because the below offer certainly won't be too eye-catching, but looking at it from the perspective of progress and age, Osimhen can also be used as a benchmark.
But looking at Osimhen's offer, I still feel that this is just a diversion so that Tottenham lowers the price a little because we know that 70 million was rejected by Tottenham before and this could be a substitute while trying to sell Tottenham from behind so that they can reduce Kane's price.
If by rating,  we will all consider the performance of these two players. They both have exceptional potential but from the immediate past season, one showed a greater level of performance than the other and that was Osimhen. I don't see any reason one will say that harsh Kane will do better than him at Bayern Munich. As it stands now, it depends on what will fit into Tuchels style of play and he can he (Tuchel) best knows who that may be. So any of them he goes for will surely be the best for the team. But by current performance, I chose Osimhen.

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June 29, 2023, 08:03:21 PM
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The way Dortmund find players for their team is very much clear to me, they are investing in younger players and talents like Jude Bellingham and Haaland this way they find talents they need for their teams and then after investing just a few amounts of money on these players, they can sell players for a huge amount of money, just like what they did with these two players recently.
That is right and they are very good at it, and been for many years. They have interligent scouts and they look for the jewels and convince them with the Champions League and many successes. The current team is 24 years old on average and a new top star is born every year. This year it was Bellingham, next year it could be Youssoufa Moukoko. It is one of the best Clubs in germany.

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Dortmund still look like the only team that can maintain this title race for now. They can just continue to implement their vision by highly profitable player sales. However they should be able to stay in the title race as much as possible to prevent the season from turning into a boring one.
I don't know how long it will take before Dortmund gets another chance like they did last season, when i think about it i cannot still believe that Dortmund lost that opportunity and i don't know how their players can manage to forget about that disappointment. If Bayern's domination of the bundesliga was to end, it would have been last season because they were not playing well, but since it didn't happen then, i am not optimistic that it is going to happen anytime soon again, they will continue to make the bundesliga a very boring league.

I remember once Dortmund were quite competitive for the Bundesliga title. They became champions two times in a row - 2010/2011 and 2011/2012 seasons. Those were times they had Lewandowski in the squad as well. Especially in the latter season he scored quite many goals and started to draw the attention to himself. After a couple of more seasons Bayern Munich signed him as well and it became much more difficult for Dortmund to make it to the title again.

They could have still built the team according to that but they didn't want that. They just wanted to have a vision aiming to make high profit in young and talented player sales. I don't feel like this vision will be gone in the near future either.

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June 29, 2023, 08:16:49 PM
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No matter what Dortmund must be still in a very good position financially. After Bellingham's sale they have made a big amount of money. This is their priority in the end so I don't think they are still thinking about how they can lose their title chance like that. Yeah it was really unbelievable but they are still able to reach their main goals according to their vision.
As long as they make so much money in sales of their players it wouldn't be important for them whether they are champions or not. I assume the fans think the opposite but they must be also aware of Dortmund's policy already. Otherwise Dortmund can easily build a squad that can be much more competitive for the league title to win.
Yes indeed, even though Dortmund continue to sell their best players but the fact is, Dortmund will still be fine and there is nothing to worry about for Dortmund. But indeed, if Dortmund really has the ambition to be better and stronger to win titles and trophies then of course, Dortmund must change this way or tradition. Therefore, Bayern Munich can consistently win the Bundesliga title, because its rival teams do not have big ambitions to win the Bundesliga title from season to season.
Borussia Dortmund always find a way to find the players they need, and it does every season. Many said that maybe when Borussia Dortmund left their star players would make it difficult for them, but they always showed new talents which in the end made them play stably even though they left many influential players in the team.
I'm actually looking forward to who the name will be big with Borussia Dortmund, and the possibility will be seen again.
The way Dortmund find players for their team is very much clear to me, they are investing in younger players and talents like Jude Bellingham and Haaland this way they find talents they need for their teams and then after investing just a few amounts of money on these players, they can sell players for a huge amount of money, just like what they did with these two players recently.

Dortmund management does not make mistakes in picking talented players. Jude Bellingham, Haaland and Haller were their perfect choices. They try to recruit talented and inexperienced players. And by making these players experienced enough in 1/2 season. Later, they sell players at high prices. That's what we've seen in the last few seasons. However, Dortmund team management and coach are very experienced. And that's why they can identify the right player. If the Dortmund management were rich, the team would have the potential to dominate the Bundesliga.

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June 29, 2023, 08:29:16 PM
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According to the last transfer news from today from Dortmund it looks like that Can will maybe extending his contract there.
If that will be happen its also possible that the transfer about Edson Alvarez maybe can be canceled.
Source about that is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WTkFZrpOFQ
Fingers crossed that Edson Alvarez is coming still to Dortmund even when Can gets a new contract.



Dortmund is not going to go for Edson Álvarez anymore.
They are actually going to talk with Emre Can and try to keep him for a longer time in the team.
Dortmund actually agreed with Edson Alvarez on personal terms. But they are still not going to finalize this deal.
An interesting decision was taken by Dortmund. I thought they are going to go through with this deal.

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June 29, 2023, 08:59:15 PM
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Dortmund is not going to go for Edson Álvarez anymore.
They are actually going to talk with Emre Can and try to keep him for a longer time in the team.
Dortmund actually agreed with Edson Alvarez on personal terms. But they are still not going to finalize this deal.
An interesting decision was taken by Dortmund. I thought they are going to go through with this deal.
Thanks for sharing the statement and post done by Fabrizio Romano as i not following his posts.
I also thought that they will be for sure making the deal with Edson Alvarez but Can is also nice to have them in Dortmund.
Maybe we will see some surprising transfer then in Dortmund.

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Ha if it was that easy they would do it, but what you mention here is something that they have been quarreling with for quite a while now. They are still hoping for some younger talents from their own youth to finally tackle the challenge and make it into the first team of Bayern Munich. That would save them a lot of money and there wouldn't be the urgency all the time to do something about their offensive problems. But there is no Thomas Muller right now in their youth teams. Muller was the discovery of the year back then when Louis van Gaal gave him a chance. But the business has become too fast and you can't be patiently waiting for a talent to emerge from your own youth teams, you have to solve them problem immediately with cash. The chances for young talents from the own youth teams are also vanishing as they don't have time to prove they could be worth a try. 
Actually talking about current talent there is one that can be looked at for next season like now they will try to maximize Ryan Gravenberch or Musiala but indeed this is back again they are only midfielders trying to improve the quality of attacks but there is still no striker who can be used as benchmark in this case.
As you said buying with money is a short way to do it but until now they haven't done that yet and their focus is still on Kane. I was expecting other options but until now when talking about strikers Bayern still seem to be focused on Kane and when that doesn't work it will be a bit of a problem.

There is again something in the making around Kane and this time it has been officially confirmed by Bayern that they sent an offer to Tottenham trying to transfer Kane for €70 million. But so far it seems that Tottenham refused the offer although Bayern and Kane have agreed upon the terms for a contract. That is what the news say but it is worthless as long as Tottenham doesn't agree to sell him for €70 million. Bayern knows that they don't have that many options to fix that problem now but I can see how Bayern is struggling to pay more for Kane. He isn't young anymore and the closer they get to the 100 million for this transfer, the higher the risk if course. If he gets injured, it would be a horrible situation for them as they would be in the same situation again.
Because indeed 70 million will not be looked at considering Tottenham's condition is still the same as only wanting to release 100 million+ for a Kane.
But there is an interesting thing now that the 70 million bid rejected is reportedly now Bayern back off the hunt for Kane and looking for other alternatives at this time.
Don't know if this is just their push and pull plan or if this is really the end of the Bayern and Kane drama but right now there are some reports suggesting they are trying to approach Osimhen for a new target.
Although it is said in this case it looks like it will be more difficult because Bayern only dared to pay 100 million for Osimhen even though looking at the current conditions Napoli opened an offer of 180 million for this player.
I don't know, but it looks like this offer is just playing, especially considering PSG have prepared 150 million for Osimhen if Mbappe really leaves this season.

That is some interesting information you are sharing here, but I get what they are thinking at Bayern Munich. Paying 100 million for Kane gets them to the level where it doesn't matter whether they put more money on top of it and get a younger striker with a long future. Kane is 5.5 years older than Osimhen and if you divide the potential transfer fee by the years that Osimhen would have left, he is most likely the better investment for Bayern. But 180 million are new heights and they have never had a deal that was even close to that. Napoli has time and can try and see what might be possible, but I doubt that any other club would be willing to pay as much.

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