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That will take time if they will develop a player to be a star, but I won't make a conclusion yet as we have one season to see before we make our judgement. I know it's hard but it's not impossible though, and who knows, one day it will happen and Lillard is going to the championship, I'm sure he has been dreaming of that.
Durant and Irving will likely stay with their current team due to the high demand of the Nets, so not them but maybe someone like them will join the Blazers.
You are right, it will be too late if they will develop someone to be Lillard's tandem. He is not getting any younger and if they are just developing now, it will take like 2-3 years. By that time, Lillard will be gone. Hope they find someone that can help Dame lift this team to a championship. They have the number 7 draft pick Shaedon Sharpe and they also have Jabari Walker who did an awesome performance at the 2022 summer league against the Knicks. In the end, they won the championship. Trail Blazers have a strong young core but they need some polishing. It's good though if ever someone will be stepping up their game to provide help for Lillard and the whole crew. This is the start of their career so might as well show it to get better contracts in the future. But who knows, just witnessing the Grizzlies made it to the Semi-Finals surprised me even at a young age of Ja and his team.
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I know how important Green is in the Warriors and he is one of their best defenders but to ask for a 10-year contract? I don't know if it will happen because the Warriors will not get any benefit from it in the long run. That's too much I think and the Warriors can't even give him a max contract (for now). He is 32 years old and a few years from now, he will be in the post-prime period and his performance will slowly decrease thus, it will not help the Warriors so it's a no-no for me and maybe it would be better for the Warriors if they will just trade him if Green will push what he wants. Kinda hurt but it would be beneficial to the Warriors management.
There is no doubt about Green's importance in the team because he is a valuable asset to the team, but he should be informed enough that there's no team in the NBA who will grant him that long contract. I mean, he is quite older already and he won't be producing the same production he did in the years to come because of that age, he should know by now that it is the reality in the NBA since then because it's a business in the first place. I think the maximum contract in the NBA is only 6 years. I don't know if Green is just wanting attention or trolling or bluffing or just high or drunk. It is even unlikely that GSW will give him a max contract. And his performance is not the same already as before so he will not be worth $32 million per year something. I believe that GSW management, the splash brothers, Kerr, and the rest of the gang will persuade Draymond to remain with them. And I don't think any team in the NBA will want Draymond at $32 million per year. Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.
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"Brooklyn Nets reportedly asked for Jaylen Brown AND Jayson Tatum for Kevin Durant. " Most celtics fans already hated the previous report of Jaylen Brown + picks for Kevin Durant and with these recent reports. I'd say if it goes through, there'll be riots across Boston. Seems very unlikely that this goes through.
It will be a bad trade for the Celtics if it will include Tatum. He is the franchise player, not Brown not Marcus Smart. So it they bite on the Nets request, it will really be a disaster for them. They have found the right combinations already, including the coach, they've reach the finals and almost had a coach chance to win the championship. I'd say forget about that deal, let their team go to another season intact and see if they can go as far as the finals again and maybe won the ring this time. I couldn't agree more! They should forget about this deal and forget the thought of acquiring Durant in their roster because that will be just a disaster for their team, they should just focus on what they have now because they are now an experienced team as they managed to have an appearance in the Finals against GSW. I bet they will be much more stronger than any team because of that, they just need more push and exposure to be one of the finest team in the league. I also have that same opinion about Celtics, they don't need KD, the only thing that they needed to do is to continue doing more progress with their system, they've made it to the finals last season the players deserves kudos for doing their roles and now they will again try to push for another shot in chasing the world title, having KD and breaking the good chemistry might not be a good idea for the Celtics' managements. KD won't do any good for the team because I expect that the deal will mean that the Nets will have Smart and Brown, I don't think that they will just go and grab one player from the Celtics in exchange for Durant, right? So in short, the Celtics will not be the same anymore and that means that they will start from scratch again and might find themselves hanging when Durant starts to make trade request next season if the team won't work-out. The Celtics would be betting on Tatum and Durant being such a good pair that they don’t need the rest of their core team. I’m sure the pairing of those two would bring in all the ring chaser veteran free agents as well. Personally, I think Durant is going to destroy any team he’s on and set them back 5 years on building out their roster. Durant is great, but I think he’s a risk. I wouldn’t trade for him. He’s a great free agent signing.
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KD won't do any good for the team because I expect that the deal will mean that the Nets will have Smart and Brown, I don't think that they will just go and grab one player from the Celtics in exchange for Durant, right? So in short, the Celtics will not be the same anymore and that means that they will start from scratch again and might find themselves hanging when Durant starts to make trade request next season if the team won't work-out.
They think that it's going to be a good trade if they accept it and fans can't do anything with that. But we all are in agreement that this isn't a good trade. Whether they see it as a fair or not, it's still not going to do well and this could lose them more fans where also part of sales are coming for the franchise. Nets won't just settle for a 1:1 ratio trade whether they'll be getting a superstar, most of the asking trade are likely more than 2 and note that they're contributors and star players.
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The Celtics would be betting on Tatum and Durant being such a good pair that they don’t need the rest of their core team. I’m sure the pairing of those two would bring in all the ring chaser veteran free agents as well. Personally, I think Durant is going to destroy any team he’s on and set them back 5 years on building out their roster. Durant is great, but I think he’s a risk. I wouldn’t trade for him. He’s a great free agent signing.
It is not just about him being a good player anymore though. Durant left OKC when he failed to beat GSW and joined GSW, then he realized everyone was injured and left for Nets instead to play with his buddy, then he is asking for a trade again. I mean it is a pattern, dude is not loyal and you could bet something for him, and he will leave you high and dry. Do not give any players for him, if you could get him on free agent then it's fine, but do not ever get him for any important player, not tatum, not brown, I mean maybe others because they are not really important at all. In the end, he could just ask for a trade if he feels unhappy and you will left with nothing.
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August 12, 2022, 09:56:17 PM |
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It is not just about him being a good player anymore though. Durant left OKC when he failed to beat GSW and joined GSW, then he realized everyone was injured and left for Nets instead to play with his buddy, then he is asking for a trade again. I mean it is a pattern, dude is not loyal and you could bet something for him, and he will leave you high and dry.
Do not give any players for him, if you could get him on free agent then it's fine, but do not ever get him for any important player, not tatum, not brown, I mean maybe others because they are not really important at all. In the end, he could just ask for a trade if he feels unhappy and you will left with nothing.
Excellent observation! I believe Durant went after what he wanted, to own an NBA championship ring. I don't know if his attitude will change over time or something like that, but I also believe that if he is dissatisfied with the current team, he will want to be replaced and he will go after his personal goals and interests
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It is not just about him being a good player anymore though. Durant left OKC when he failed to beat GSW and joined GSW, then he realized everyone was injured and left for Nets instead to play with his buddy, then he is asking for a trade again. I mean it is a pattern, dude is not loyal and you could bet something for him, and he will leave you high and dry.
Do not give any players for him, if you could get him on free agent then it's fine, but do not ever get him for any important player, not tatum, not brown, I mean maybe others because they are not really important at all. In the end, he could just ask for a trade if he feels unhappy and you will left with nothing.
Excellent observation! I believe Durant went after what he wanted, to own an NBA championship ring. I don't know if his attitude will change over time or something like that, but I also believe that if he is dissatisfied with the current team, he will want to be replaced and he will go after his personal goals and interests I agree with the pattern though, that's why he has been criticized so much by some basketball analyst and even former players because he took the easy route, join a team that beat his OKC back them and then win championship with GSW. But when he felt that GSW is still Curry's team and somewhat hurt his ego, try to start his own super team, with Irving and later Harden, but it didn't work and now he want's to leave and try to join other team. His legacy will be affected by this move by Durant for sure.
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.
Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln.
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.
Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln. He's eligible for max contract and he's just trying to get what's best for his future because he is almost at the peak of his career. But actually in reality this one is little much not possible and maybe for this asking for getting huge contract mag cause for him to get departed on Warriors. Hopefully he will not encounter the same faith with schroder which his career is questionable now in NBA.
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.
Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln. Draymond is just playing mind games right now with the Warriors management, for sure he will want to sign a new contract and continue his legacy with the team. Him, Curry and Thompson will remain with the Warriors and chase another ring, get to their 5th and become a dynasties.
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.
Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln. He's eligible for max contract and he's just trying to get what's best for his future because he is almost at the peak of his career. But actually in reality this one is little much not possible and maybe for this asking for getting huge contract mag cause for him to get departed on Warriors. Hopefully he will not encounter the same faith with schroder which his career is questionable now in NBA. Draymond is a huge asset to the warriors. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He plays excellent defense and really gets under opponents skin causing them to play bad. Warriors may not agree to a max contract but ill bet they offer him something he will accept. He's too valuable to them.
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August 13, 2022, 01:57:01 AM |
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.
Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln. He's eligible for max contract and he's just trying to get what's best for his future because he is almost at the peak of his career. But actually in reality this one is little much not possible and maybe for this asking for getting huge contract mag cause for him to get departed on Warriors. Hopefully he will not encounter the same faith with schroder which his career is questionable now in NBA. Draymond is a huge asset to the warriors. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He plays excellent defense and really gets under opponents skin causing them to play bad. Warriors may not agree to a max contract but ill bet they offer him something he will accept. He's too valuable to them. I think the Warriors knows that, Draymond is one of the cornerstone of their franchise, they have developed him to be one of the cerebral basketball player we have right now. We can make an argument that he is the leader of the Warriors and not Steph Curry because of his contributions. I agree that the Warriors sees value in him but will not offer a max contract, but maybe near that and good amount and incentives that Green can't refuse.
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I'm just browsing in Facebook minutes ago and I saw this report that Kyrie doesn't want to play more than 60 games per season and can sit back-to-back games. I don't know if this is true but here is the link and you'll be the one to decide. LINKKyrie Irving reportedly sought contractual guarantees that he wouldn't have to make more than 60 appearances per season and could skip back-to-back games as part of his extension talks with the Brooklyn Nets.
Fox Sports' Ric Bucher reported details about the negotiations Wednesday on his On The Ball podcast (via HoopsHype).
"[Nets governor] Joe Tsai has already shown he's willing to play hardball with Kyrie by taking a max extension off the table almost immediately," Bucher said. "Now, part of that may be Kyrie's doing. I'm told he wanted his new contract to guarantee he wouldn't have to play more than 60 games in a season and would not have to play any back-to-backs, which he apparently referred to as inhumane." What are your thoughts about this one? When I saw this, I was like "WTF?" Looks like the Nets got 2 all-star players which has more authority than the management themselves. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I absolutely want to avoid this discussion about those two Nets stars but they can really get to your nerve sometimes that you need to release you emotions. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If they will let this happen then it's not just soft NBA anymore but team management became soft too. Players now are demanding too much like their salaries are too cheap. They are being paid multi-millions of dollars and yet they can still make dramatic demands like this one. No back-to-back games? Wow. I want to find out what kind of drug they are taking and why it is not being traced by the health department of the NBA. Yeah you know what I feel ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I, myself don't want to say anything to these 2 all-stars but they really are getting into my nerves and in my timeline in Facebook. Whenever I browse anything related to NBA, they are the ones who will pop up as long as there are news that is related to the Nets. They are being paid and yet they are the ones who are very demanding. I just hope that the NBA will not allow players to just do things like this. They demand too much that they are the ones who are benefitting but the team aren't at all or maybe that is how much they don't want to play with the team to the point that they will demand everything just to push the Nets to trade both of them. With the behavior these 2 players are, I think it would be beneficial for the team if they will just trade these 2 and just rebuild again.
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Draymond Green doesn't have a lot of option and surely he doesn't have the power to demand the table and make the team offer him a max contract because he is not that kind of huge asset, he'll be lucky if the Warriors will still keep him despite his situation. He should know that he isn't like LBJ or CP3 who will be chased by any team because of the numbers they could bring in the team, Green is different because he is not a play maker.
Draymond Green obviously shouldn't be hoping that the Warriors or any other team will offer him a maximum contract. By the way, his current contract will expire after next season, and he will still have a player option for an extension until the end of the 23/24 season. To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes this player option as it is unlikely that anyone will offer him a higher salary than $27,5 mln. He's eligible for max contract and he's just trying to get what's best for his future because he is almost at the peak of his career. But actually in reality this one is little much not possible and maybe for this asking for getting huge contract mag cause for him to get departed on Warriors. Hopefully he will not encounter the same faith with schroder which his career is questionable now in NBA. Draymond is a huge asset to the warriors. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He plays excellent defense and really gets under opponents skin causing them to play bad. Warriors may not agree to a max contract but ill bet they offer him something he will accept. He's too valuable to them. Enough said. Curry, Thompson and Green are the very foundation of the GSW dynasty. It is proven that no matter who they built around these guys are really gonna work as long as these guys are a hundred percent healthy. We all thought it's the end of the GSW dominance when they've missed the playoffs because of the awful injuries, but no they proved us wrong. Though Draymond has not performed very well offensively, but he's still a huge part on the defensive end and making his opponents frustrated.
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I agree with the pattern though, that's why he has been criticized so much by some basketball analyst and even former players because he took the easy route, join a team that beat his OKC back them and then win championship with GSW. But when he felt that GSW is still Curry's team and somewhat hurt his ego, try to start his own super team, with Irving and later Harden, but it didn't work and now he want's to leave and try to join other team. His legacy will be affected by this move by Durant for sure.
Yes, exactly! I believe he preferred the easy way to be a champion. He is an excellent player, that I cannot deny, but I even believe that he may be a little far from being an extremely loyal player to his team (unlike Nowitzki, Duncan, Kobe, Stockton, R. Miller and others, who in my humble opinion were players loyal to their team). Another thing that crossed my mind is that Durant would like to be a franchise player, or maybe the star player of the team, but that unfortunately didn't happen, not even when he was playing for the SuperSonics/OKC (because he shared the role with Westbrook), also didn't happen when he played for the Warriors or the Nets I like to watch Durant play, it's extremely rare to see a 7ft tall SF possess a good shot and good ball handling/control like him. I sincerely hope that he can find a team that he can adapt and also makes history in this new team.
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Draymond is a huge asset to the warriors. His basketball IQ is off the charts. He plays excellent defense and really gets under opponents skin causing them to play bad. Warriors may not agree to a max contract but ill bet they offer him something he will accept. He's too valuable to them.
He is. There's no doubt about that but the demands he is making are too high. The Warriors' owners are not that cheap so they will offer him a good one but Draymond should stop the act of greed because this might be affecting their relationship with the management. Then, there are the fans who might not like all the ruckus that he is making. It's supposed to be Strength in Numbers but he is making it look like strength in 3 players or just him. With the behavior these 2 players are, I think it would be beneficial for the team if they will just trade these 2 and just rebuild again.
And we are back to the problem again, Nets seem to have a difficult time letting them go. Price-wise and value-wise, they think KD and Kyrie are players that should be traded for a greater deal. Picture the offer last time Tatum and Brown for KD, that's nuts.
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August 13, 2022, 05:24:44 AM |
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I agree with the pattern though, that's why he has been criticized so much by some basketball analyst and even former players because he took the easy route, join a team that beat his OKC back them and then win championship with GSW. But when he felt that GSW is still Curry's team and somewhat hurt his ego, try to start his own super team, with Irving and later Harden, but it didn't work and now he want's to leave and try to join other team. His legacy will be affected by this move by Durant for sure.
Yes, exactly! I believe he preferred the easy way to be a champion. He is an excellent player, that I cannot deny, but I even believe that he may be a little far from being an extremely loyal player to his team (unlike Nowitzki, Duncan, Kobe, Stockton, R. Miller and others, who in my humble opinion were players loyal to their team). Another thing that crossed my mind is that Durant would like to be a franchise player, or maybe the star player of the team, but that unfortunately didn't happen, not even when he was playing for the SuperSonics/OKC (because he shared the role with Westbrook), also didn't happen when he played for the Warriors or the Nets I like to watch Durant play, it's extremely rare to see a 7ft tall SF possess a good shot and good ball handling/control like him. I sincerely hope that he can find a team that he can adapt and also makes history in this new team. That's up to the Nets because until now he is still in contract with the team, if no trade will happen, then he has to continue playing with the team and wait until his contract will expire so he can choose a team to sign up with. Right now, it's not good for Durant to talk a lot, he just have to wait until the trade will happen and continue to win giving his best.
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August 13, 2022, 08:53:03 AM |
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I'm just browsing in Facebook minutes ago and I saw this report that Kyrie doesn't want to play more than 60 games per season and can sit back-to-back games. I don't know if this is true but here is the link and you'll be the one to decide. LINKKyrie Irving reportedly sought contractual guarantees that he wouldn't have to make more than 60 appearances per season and could skip back-to-back games as part of his extension talks with the Brooklyn Nets.
Fox Sports' Ric Bucher reported details about the negotiations Wednesday on his On The Ball podcast (via HoopsHype).
"[Nets governor] Joe Tsai has already shown he's willing to play hardball with Kyrie by taking a max extension off the table almost immediately," Bucher said. "Now, part of that may be Kyrie's doing. I'm told he wanted his new contract to guarantee he wouldn't have to play more than 60 games in a season and would not have to play any back-to-backs, which he apparently referred to as inhumane." What are your thoughts about this one? When I saw this, I was like "WTF?" Looks like the Nets got 2 all-star players which has more authority than the management themselves. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) I absolutely want to avoid this discussion about those two Nets stars but they can really get to your nerve sometimes that you need to release you emotions. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) If they will let this happen then it's not just soft NBA anymore but team management became soft too. Players now are demanding too much like their salaries are too cheap. They are being paid multi-millions of dollars and yet they can still make dramatic demands like this one. No back-to-back games? Wow. I want to find out what kind of drug they are taking and why it is not being traced by the health department of the NBA. Yeah you know what I feel ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . I, myself don't want to say anything to these 2 all-stars but they really are getting into my nerves and in my timeline in Facebook. Whenever I browse anything related to NBA, they are the ones who will pop up as long as there are news that is related to the Nets. They are being paid and yet they are the ones who are very demanding. I just hope that the NBA will not allow players to just do things like this. They demand too much that they are the ones who are benefitting but the team aren't at all or maybe that is how much they don't want to play with the team to the point that they will demand everything just to push the Nets to trade both of them. With the behavior these 2 players are, I think it would be beneficial for the team if they will just trade these 2 and just rebuild again. Sooner or later the NBA commissioner will have to do something about it. He said publicly that he doesn't want how Durant demanding a trade after signing a huge contract. Sooner or later we will see some rule change, at least to have team owners get a better deal when they sign this kind of players. And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.
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August 13, 2022, 10:21:03 AM |
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Sooner or later the NBA commissioner will have to do something about it. He said publicly that he doesn't want how Durant demanding a trade after signing a huge contract. Sooner or later we will see some rule change, at least to have team owners get a better deal when they sign this kind of players.
And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.
They must take the necessary action, it's not normal that players are acting like a boss, yes, Durant has some talent but without a team that will sign him and pay a huge contract, he will surely not gonna feel like a superstar, he has to be committed to the Nets as they trusted him, not the other way around.
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August 13, 2022, 10:31:36 AM |
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And since they can't be simply be traded right away because the Nets wants more, and you can't blame them. Again, it boils down on the money they put in the line and they want something in return, like future draft picks, because that's what the lost as well when they sign the 2.
Money is not a problem since once Kevin Durant is traded, the contract offered by the Brooklyn Nets to him will be voided at some point. The Nets is asking for a much good trading package because Durant is a big name and offering future draft picks can't satisfy them since, in the first place, they already gave up their future picks when they sign Durant and Irving. As much as possible, they like a set of players that are as worthy as Durant's playing skills. But if they keep on insisting more, they will have a hard time trading him and they might end up a not worthy trade in return.
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