2024 NBA Season

[carlisle1]

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Durant going to the Heat would give the Heat a big boost even if they will trade Butler for him.
IMO, I believe that Durant is more clutch and more team player than Butler, so I'm okay with that trade if that will happen.

Bad move for the Heat if they accept this trade. They need someone who they know will play his heart out and not someone who will run away or demand a trade when things gets tough. He may have missed that crucial shot in game 7 against the Celtics but I wouldn't say he's less clutch than Durant in that situation. KD would have long given up in that game and not have the chance to take a possible winning shot.

I echo your statement, that missed is an adrenaline maybe a mistake because the ball didn't go thru but if does, we might have different

discussion about it. I'm good at how Miami was formed by the management. Trading Butler for KD means that they needed to blend how

KD play from the system Miami has. We can't conclude though, if there's a negotiation behind for sure, the management of Miami might see

something that only them who can say the benefits for the team.

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[YuginKadoya]

It's up to them.

And I think they're weighing all potentials and possibilities in whether getting KD or not. They still got the key players and I also believe that they won't just release those keys to the just for KD.

Who knows what's on their mind.

There could be some surprise though.

That is right, they have all their key players, that is why they don't be needing an all-star player anymore, but if they got Kevin Durant on the team that will surely be insane and so unfair for the other teams, I really think the Golden State Warriors could be a potential threat for the next season, their power three is healthy and ready Draymond Green, Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry, and with an addition of Jordan Poole they can make a Poole party, and a powerhouse on offense and defense Kevon Looney and Andrew Wiggins, and the return of James Wiseman, for additional defense, and their latest draft Patrick Baldwin Jr. can be a mini Kevin Durant in my opinion if trained well there is a possibility, so the Golden State Warriors will surely have a Poole Party with a PBJ (Peanut Butter and Jelly) for the next season,

Irving and Durant both are leaving the team surely as it seems. They have both wanted their trades as soon as possible. Actually Irving was closer to be traded but the team made a decision and decided to give priority to Durant's trade. I have heard that Miami Heat and Phoenix Suns are the teams Durant want to go now. As for Irving he has been likely to be traded with Westbrook. This deal would be great for Lakers but not much for Nets unfortunately.

Great news for the Heat if they got Durant, there can be an additional defense and offense for the team, I think the Pacers if the ones that will get Russell Westbrook and not the Nets, when the Pacers would get Deandre Ayton then they will likely be fixing the Russell Westbrook trade, so Brooklyn Nets will surely be a team with no all-star so that means they are OK with that,


Just In, after a great summer league performance Moses Moody got a bad fall, it is really frightening to see, but at least he is just OK and not badly injured, but in that fall fight there is a situation that your opponent was on a defense Moody could have an early retirement before the season starts, but yeah it was really a close call,

[jakelyson]

There's nothing to argue about MJ's skill, yes. However, he played in a completely different era where defense can win games. Today's NBA have evolve so much that a good defense is underappreciated not because today's player does not play defense, but because majority of the players today has unlimited range.
Many fans thought LeBron and other superstars today won't survive the 80's and 90's.

You can say that today era is different and that players have longer range but you cannot discredit the effectiveness of having a good defense. As a proof, just look at the final 4 of last season. Warriors, Celtics, Mavs and Heat are all defensive teams. They are on the top in defensive ratings.  Compare that to teams that go all offensive. Basketball has changed a lot, but defense still win games, then and now.

Of course the problem is that, if you are willing to get westbrook, then you should be hoping to get something else. The biggest trouble with the Irving deal is that if you give Westbrook, and even if you give some picks which Lakers barely have any, you are sending him to Durant, which we all know they both dislike each other and that would be a problem.

Maybe that is why Nets are trying to move Durant first before they take care of Irving. But if they move Durant and then get Westbrook, then they are left with Simmons and Westbrook which we know both of them don't shoot well. It will be a disaster. That is why I do not see Westbrook-Irving trade scenario to happen.

[stadus]

Yeah, but there also an issue before that. He was already asking for a max contract right after they given CP3 his own at 21-22 season. I think that's when the problem started with the Ayton relationship with management and coaching staff.
Who would not ask for it? They are the Western Champions and fought for the Finals, he might have thought there should be perks on what they achieved but it was not awarded.
I have no doubts this big guy will play at his best if only offered the contract that he wants. He may just want security for himself.

Yes, considering his contributions way back and how he really does his best to help the team.

But on the business side, I can only say that Suns management is also considering other possibilities before they can give
that offer. The problem already smoke out and the relationship is no longer good, letting go Ayton and let him get the desire
contract will also allow Suns to hire new replacement.

There's a team that will go after Ayton, he is one of the top 10 big men in the NBA, and with his good shooting range, I think he will be a very valuable asset. IMO, he is deserving for a max contract, if Suns could not give that, then there's no reason for him to stay.

No doubt, Deandre Ayton will be an additional and valuable asset to any team he goes into and he deserves a team that will give and feel him valuable. So, if the Phoenix Suns are going to let Ayton go then I can say that it's their loss and I doubt they can get a good replacement for Ayton this coming season. Maybe in the next years but not now.

I've also read an article earlier that Ayton is still looking for another options aside from the fact that we had now and if the Pacers can't give him a 4-year contract then Ayton will still remain as a Suns.

[1kodumtek7]

They are now in serious discussion to trade with Kyrie and I think they can make this to happen as they want to pass up what they think a problem on their teams. Although this talks will not get any assurance but I believe they will make this thing to happen as Lakers and Nets is running out of time on their free agency. We don't know if Durant will be happy with this trade because it looks like he will play again and if I'm not wrong they don't have good relationship to each other.

I've also heard about this trade rumours for Irving. Actually it is said that it was going to happen too but Nets changed their mind suddenly about this. Because they want to trade Kevin Durant first as he wanted from them urgently. Nets are losing a lot of power now and I can't even imagine their place in the coming season. Anyway, after Durant's trade I wonder if Lakers will still manage to get Irving by giving Westbrook in return. This would be a great trade for Lakers in my opinion.

[jossiel]

As for Irving he has been likely to be traded with Westbrook. This deal would be great for Lakers but not much for Nets unfortunately.

I've heard that Lebron would like to play with Irving but just as the trade, it's all the rumors that I've been hearing. Well, I guess that would just be another enjoying season for Lebron for choosing who he wants to play with.

As for the trade with KD, Nets really have to put priority on him as they've invested that much on him without getting that great return for his staying career on them.

[livingfree]

It's up to them.

And I think they're weighing all potentials and possibilities in whether getting KD or not. They still got the key players and I also believe that they won't just release those keys to the just for KD.

Who knows what's on their mind.

There could be some surprise though.

That is right, they have all their key players, that is why they don't be needing an all-star player anymore, but if they got Kevin Durant on the team that will surely be insane and so unfair for the other teams, I really think the Golden State Warriors could be a potential threat for the next season, their power three is healthy and ready Draymond Green, Klay Thompson and Stephen Curry, and with an addition of Jordan Poole they can make a Poole party, and a powerhouse on offense and defense Kevon Looney and Andrew Wiggins, and the return of James Wiseman, for additional defense, and their latest draft Patrick Baldwin Jr. can be a mini Kevin Durant in my opinion if trained well there is a possibility, so the Golden State Warriors will surely have a Poole Party with a PBJ (Peanut Butter and Jelly) for the next season,

They've got already a good roster and got some new addition from the draft for which we can also see new potentials from there.

But if it's for KD, we still need to see what's really for him and what team is really serious of taking him and getting that crazy deal for the trade that he wants for Nets.

[Baofeng]

And when we thought that there is no trade rumor or Donovan Mitchell or at least the Jazz is not going to entertain any trade, there is a news that the Jazz wanted the following from the Knicks:

The Jazz wanted Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, Derrick Rose, RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin and 6 first-round picks for Donovan Mitchell

https://twitter.com/JohnsonWhiteNBA/status/1547224720629977088

But obviously, the Knicks decline because that's too much.

The Knicks though already got Brunson as their guard, why would they need Mitchell?

[OgNasty]

And when we thought that there is no trade rumor or Donovan Mitchell or at least the Jazz is not going to entertain any trade, there is a news that the Jazz wanted the following from the Knicks:

The Jazz wanted Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, Derrick Rose, RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin and 6 first-round picks for Donovan Mitchell

https://twitter.com/JohnsonWhiteNBA/status/1547224720629977088

But obviously, the Knicks decline because that's too much.

The Knicks though already got Brunson as their guard, why would they need Mitchell?

Dwayne Wade seem pretty confident that Mitchell will end up in a Heat uniform. I think he’s a great player, but he’s really undersized for his position and isn’t the most efficient guy. I think any team with him as their #1 scoring option will struggle to reach the Finals. He’s no doubt a great talent though that I think would thrive in a secondary role. He’ll need to work on his defense at some point if he wants to be one of the top players in the league.

[agustina2]

That's a good point.  This is why Durant has requested a trade and will not be playing on the Nets next year.  I also think this will be a good trade for the Nets because they want a guy that will actually be on the floor after the Kyrie experience last year.  Westbrook will likely play all 82 games for the Nets and I think their management will appreciate that and the picks much more than another year of Kyrie drama.  Plus, it'll clear cap space in the future since Russ only has 1 year left on his contract.

Durant requested for trade, not for that reason. He clearly wants a big help from coming from the All-Stars level and Phoenix Suns and Miami Heat can give it to him although that would pay a price for these teams to get Durant. I hope Durant won't be traded so that he will feel pressure to win and realize that his behavior is not right after the Nets give him the best contract.

In the first place, why did Durant agrees with the extension last year and he signed it if, in the end, he won't be interested in playing for the team.

Nets make it clear, if they didn't get a good package for Durant, he will stay on the team.

[dwyane36]

Irving and Durant both are leaving the team surely as it seems. They have both wanted their trades as soon as possible. Actually Irving was closer to be traded but the team made a decision and decided to give priority to Durant's trade. I have heard that Miami Heat and Phoenix Suns are the teams Durant want to go now. As for Irving he has been likely to be traded with Westbrook. This deal would be great for Lakers but not much for Nets unfortunately.

Great news for the Heat if they got Durant, there can be an additional defense and offense for the team, I think the Pacers if the ones that will get Russell Westbrook and not the Nets, when the Pacers would get Deandre Ayton then they will likely be fixing the Russell Westbrook trade, so Brooklyn Nets will surely be a team with no all-star so that means they are OK with that,

As it was mentioned before, the Nets won't agree to trade Durant anyway if they don't get an all-star player instead of him. In that case, Durant trade rumors to the Heat seem unlikely since the Heat would have to include Butler and a couple of bench players in the deal. Honestly, I doubt the Heat have plans to trade Butler, and it's unlikely they could offer any other deal which would satisfy the Nets.

[Shinpako09]

Irving and Durant both are leaving the team surely as it seems. They have both wanted their trades as soon as possible. Actually Irving was closer to be traded but the team made a decision and decided to give priority to Durant's trade. I have heard that Miami Heat and Phoenix Suns are the teams Durant want to go now. As for Irving he has been likely to be traded with Westbrook. This deal would be great for Lakers but not much for Nets unfortunately.

Great news for the Heat if they got Durant, there can be an additional defense and offense for the team, I think the Pacers if the ones that will get Russell Westbrook and not the Nets, when the Pacers would get Deandre Ayton then they will likely be fixing the Russell Westbrook trade, so Brooklyn Nets will surely be a team with no all-star so that means they are OK with that,

As it was mentioned before, the Nets won't agree to trade Durant anyway if they don't get an all-star player instead of him. In that case, Durant trade rumors to the Heat seem unlikely since the Heat would have to include Butler and a couple of bench players in the deal. Honestly, I doubt the Heat have plans to trade Butler, and it's unlikely they could offer any other deal which would satisfy the Nets.

Durant asking for trade has been hot since announced. I don't think any team would give up their star player plus future pick for Durant. Yeah, he is good but Nets is asking too much and Durant wanted to join Heat or Suns, etc. because he wanted to play along with their stars. The trade doesn't make sense for him if they will trade their stars in exchange for him.

I'm just hoping GSW won't trade their youngsters just to get KD. For me, it's like they are giving away the future of the team.

[LogitechMouse]

And when we thought that there is no trade rumor or Donovan Mitchell or at least the Jazz is not going to entertain any trade, there is a news that the Jazz wanted the following from the Knicks:

The Jazz wanted Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, Derrick Rose, RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin and 6 first-round picks for Donovan Mitchell

https://twitter.com/JohnsonWhiteNBA/status/1547224720629977088

But obviously, the Knicks decline because that's too much.

The Knicks though already got Brunson as their guard, why would they need Mitchell?

I know that Mitchell is an all-star level player or at least near to it but the Jazz asked too much players with this one. 11 players including some of their core players for Mitchell. Who in the hell will agree with that trade? For sure Stephen A. Smith will be furious if the Knicks will agree to this trade .

Why they need Mitchell? I think they want Brunson to be a shooting guard and they want Mitchell as their starting Point Guard which I think fits for both of them but at the same time, they can just switch positions since they can be a PG or SG. If the Knicks want Mitchell, I'm curious which players will they give to the Jazz or maybe Wade will do everything just to put Mitchell on the Heat.

[wheelz1200]

And when we thought that there is no trade rumor or Donovan Mitchell or at least the Jazz is not going to entertain any trade, there is a news that the Jazz wanted the following from the Knicks:

The Jazz wanted Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, Derrick Rose, RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin and 6 first-round picks for Donovan Mitchell

https://twitter.com/JohnsonWhiteNBA/status/1547224720629977088

But obviously, the Knicks decline because that's too much.

The Knicks though already got Brunson as their guard, why would they need Mitchell?

Mitchell and brunson play opposite of each other.  Brunson would be the point and spida the sg.  That package is rediculous.  It leaves the Knicks with nothing amd then 6 picks lol.  Jazz are tripping.  Donovan is good but not that good.  I honestly think knicks are better off developing grimes who plays the same position as Donovan and keeping theor assets until something better pops up.

[Oasisman]

Irving and Durant both are leaving the team surely as it seems. They have both wanted their trades as soon as possible. Actually Irving was closer to be traded but the team made a decision and decided to give priority to Durant's trade. I have heard that Miami Heat and Phoenix Suns are the teams Durant want to go now.

Durant going to the Heat would give the Heat a big boost even if they will trade Butler for him.
IMO, I believe that Durant is more clutch and more team player than Butler, so I'm okay with that trade if that will happen.

I don't think that's gonna work for the Heat. I'd rather see the Heat aims to build good back up players that surrounds Jimmy and their young talents. This current Miami Heat roster is actually pretty good and can beat any teams in East during playoffs if they can avoid any injuries with their main rotation.
I would rather see the Heat go after a good Center than trading Jimmy for Durant. That'll only ruin the team's chemistry.

[carlisle1]

As for Irving he has been likely to be traded with Westbrook. This deal would be great for Lakers but not much for Nets unfortunately.

I've heard that Lebron would like to play with Irving but just as the trade, it's all the rumors that I've been hearing. Well, I guess that would just be another enjoying season for Lebron for choosing who he wants to play with.

As for the trade with KD, Nets really have to put priority on him as they've invested that much on him without getting that great return for his staying career on them.

Classic LeBron right? he always wanted to pick players that will surround him. They've got a good combo way back from Cavs

but not sure if they still have that same system. By knowing Kyrie, he always wanted to hold the ball and for sure it will be an adjustment

between them, but giving that possibilities, everything will be depend on how the coach handles them and how they create a good system

to work with the entire squad.

[TravelMug]

And when we thought that there is no trade rumor or Donovan Mitchell or at least the Jazz is not going to entertain any trade, there is a news that the Jazz wanted the following from the Knicks:

The Jazz wanted Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, Derrick Rose, RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin and 6 first-round picks for Donovan Mitchell

https://twitter.com/JohnsonWhiteNBA/status/1547224720629977088

But obviously, the Knicks decline because that's too much.

The Knicks though already got Brunson as their guard, why would they need Mitchell?

Dwayne Wade seem pretty confident that Mitchell will end up in a Heat uniform. I think he’s a great player, but he’s really undersized for his position and isn’t the most efficient guy. I think any team with him as their #1 scoring option will struggle to reach the Finals. He’s no doubt a great talent though that I think would thrive in a secondary role. He’ll need to work on his defense at some point if he wants to be one of the top players in the league.

Yeah, he seems cannot carry a team with him alone, and although he has been surrounded with a lot of great players in Jazz, yet they always fell short in the playoffs. So him in Knicks with Randle as the main guy and him being the secondary option is good with Brunson.

But with the way the Jazz is asking for him is ridiculous though, as if telling others that they don't want him to be traded? I don't know. Maybe if teams are going to go and bite and take the risk then good for them, if not then maybe Conley is the other player that they will trade next because his name is floating as well.

[danherbias07]

What if they can sign KD without moving Butler, I think that would make the team better and they'll have a big chance to win a championship. But the question is, who are the players that will be traded for Durant?

That will mean luxury tax. A big one.
Duncan Robinson and Victor Oladipo might be their best options for trade because that will give them $25 million in free space. Because I doubt they will let Bam Adebayo go. That's just too much and it's difficult to find big men who can play as agile as Bam.

But obviously, the Knicks decline because that's too much.

The Knicks though already got Brunson as their guard, why would they need Mitchell?

That's some crazy stuff the Jazz are asking for.   It's not even close with almost fair trade.

[YuginKadoya]

They've got already a good roster and got some new addition from the draft for which we can also see new potentials from there.

But if it's for KD, we still need to see what's really for him and what team is really serious of taking him and getting that crazy deal for the trade that he wants for Nets.

And from that good roster, I think this is settled that the Golden State Warriors will not need anything, for now, for me I think the teams that will truly need Kevin Durant were the Miami Heat and the Phoenix Suns, but for the Miami Heat having difficulty in getting him due to lack of resources, and for the Phoenix Suns inability to get back Deandre Ayton, they need a bigger all-around man, so likely Kevin Durant can land on these teams or even on the other rumored teams that likely needs him, so let's just wait and see,

As it was mentioned before, the Nets won't agree to trade Durant anyway if they don't get an all-star player instead of him. In that case, Durant trade rumors to the Heat seem unlikely since the Heat would have to include Butler and a couple of bench players in the deal. Honestly, I doubt the Heat have plans to trade Butler, and it's unlikely they could offer any other deal which would satisfy the Nets.

I think this is still in the process, and choosing between Kevin Durant over Butler, is a big trade in my opinion Jimmy "Buckets" Butler is a great asset for the Miami Heat and I think even though Kevin Durant has a bigger value, but for me, Jimmy Butler and Kevin Durant, for now, has the same value as an all-star, so Miami Heat will surely be having a hard time about this, so the Phoenix Suns might have to say about this maybe Chris Paul for Kevin Durant, but it is really unlikely to happen,

[Dave1]

And when we thought that there is no trade rumor or Donovan Mitchell or at least the Jazz is not going to entertain any trade, there is a news that the Jazz wanted the following from the Knicks:

The Jazz wanted Julius Randle, Evan Fournier, Derrick Rose, RJ Barrett, Obi Toppin and 6 first-round picks for Donovan Mitchell

https://twitter.com/JohnsonWhiteNBA/status/1547224720629977088

But obviously, the Knicks decline because that's too much.

The Knicks though already got Brunson as their guard, why would they need Mitchell?

Mitchell and brunson play opposite of each other.  Brunson would be the point and spida the sg.  That package is rediculous.  It leaves the Knicks with nothing amd then 6 picks lol.  Jazz are tripping.  Donovan is good but not that good.  I honestly think knicks are better off developing grimes who plays the same position as Donovan and keeping theor assets until something better pops up.

Probably, but still it's not like Luka-Brunson. So it won't be a perfect fit, even Michell-Conley for me has some moments that they should't be in the same time at the floor.

And yeah, those players and then 6 future picks? that's insane and obviously, the Knicks will have to say no for that. Donovan is not worth of it, even a Randle-Mitchell trade is not fair in my opinion.