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[JaredKaragen]

im imagining the perfect upgrade... allthough i doubt it would be easy.... and I know there would be side effects that are potentially good and bad.

so.... If the server could know how much hashrate in each algo it has on tap; via the normalization input in the password field...

What if when TTF or share amount is greather than the time to the last block found;  the server transfers a somewhat good amount of hashrate to that algo to find that next block asap.... then send those exact miners back to where they were before it needed to happen once a block is found.


How well do you think this will help stabilize coin generation and maximize profitability?  Any potential negative impacts of this type of system?

Just a thought   I guess insomnia is good for some things.   Helps you think.

[seeks88]

Complete decred and zpool noob here with a question about black share % to decred earned.

It seems like every block that is found I have about 5%-6% of shares contributed to it. With a block size of 18 decred and over 5% shares submitted I should be getting at least 1 decred per block mined. It seems to come out to about 20% less than it should be at ~.83xxx decred per block.

Am I totally missing something here? Why does the math seem off?

Thanks!

[JaredKaragen]

any coin's math seem off here, i checked several algos, the same pattern

read the last few pages.... i suggest the whole thread.... 

Its an error in the web front end. 

Heres a metaphor:
It's like your atm telling you you are only receiving a fraction of what you are, but if you look in your cellphone app all your cash is there.

[seeks88]

any coin's math seem off here, i checked several algos, the same pattern

read the last few pages.... i suggest the whole thread.... 

Its an error in the web front end. 

Heres a metaphor:
It's like your atm telling you you are only receiving a fraction of what you are, but if you look in your cellphone app all your cash is there.

It's certainly not just a front end thing. The bitcoin I'm being paid out in matches the sums of decred, short 20%, that I'm being paid out in.

http://zpool.ca/?address=1Av5gw4wuRCgAfuw7Yinwze65vA8unzvv9

Check the math on every single decred block the pool has hit against my shares contributed %. It doesn't add up. I'm pointing my rigs somewhere else tomorrow.

[JaredKaragen]

how much did the 25 decred exchange for at that moment it sold?

are you basing your math off the incorrectly reported numbers given on the frontend?


see what im getting at?  If you are calcing off the misreported values, the math will be off.   so.... ok.

[seeks88]

how much did the 25 decred exchange for at that moment it sold?

are you basing your math off the incorrectly reported numbers given on the frontend?


see what im getting at?  If you are calcing off the misreported values, the math will be off.   so.... ok.

What you're saying suggests that the front end read outs are wrong, but the Btc I'm receiving should be correct. The Bitcoin I'm receiving matches up with the front end readout exactly. The exchange rate isn't changing dramatically. This stuff can easily be calculated.

I read the last 5 pages of this thread and no one has anything to say about shares and payouts. I don't have a significant amount of rejects, less than 1%, and the hashrate reported on the front end looks like what I see in the miner.

What could I be missing? (I'm certainly not saying I haven't missed something)

[JaredKaragen]

it was hard for me to wrap my head around it all initially;  but my profitability hasn't taken a hit during the last bit;  only when my machine was getting stuck on groestl nearly all day.

honestly some parts dont make sense for sure;

but when I was mining strictly decred;  I didn't notice any issues with it payment-wise.

Sucks when things like this surface when crack leaves town...

But I believe hes been adding coins and algos to the pool at an alarming rate the last few weeks.

[AngryDwarf]

how much did the 25 decred exchange for at that moment it sold?

are you basing your math off the incorrectly reported numbers given on the frontend?


see what im getting at?  If you are calcing off the misreported values, the math will be off.   so.... ok.

What you're saying suggests that the front end read outs are wrong, but the Btc I'm receiving should be correct. The Bitcoin I'm receiving matches up with the front end readout exactly. The exchange rate isn't changing dramatically. This stuff can easily be calculated.

I read the last 5 pages of this thread and no one has anything to say about shares and payouts. I don't have a significant amount of rejects, less than 1%, and the hashrate reported on the front end looks like what I see in the miner.

What could I be missing? (I'm certainly not saying I haven't missed something)

About 61 pages of thread maybe?

[seeks88]

P61 doesn't explain anything about my problem. I'm just gonna go back to a different pool and convert decree myself. Oh well.

[AngryDwarf]

P61 doesn't explain anything about my problem. I'm just gonna go back to a different pool and convert decree myself. Oh well.

I didn't say anything about page 61, I was just pointing out that there are another 61 pages of thread you have not read. Somewhere amongst that the issue has been discussed and analysed.
The bottom line is which is the best method of obtaining the currency you want. If I want BTC, most exchange withdrawal fees aren't too cheap for my hash power.
According to the graphs, this pool mined about 155 BTC in 30 days. At a 2% fee rate, I think renting the hardware that zpool has, and assuming that exchange fees and payout transactions fees are not negligible, I might just break into a little profit on that.

[seeks88]

Thanks Angrydwarf. I just read through the first 35 pages of the thread and I saw a lot of good research you did on the code. Thanks for that. When I get more time I'll go read the next 25 pages. It didn't seem like there was much of an answer from the pool owner besides "I can't fix the code because I don't know how. I will admit that something seems weird, but sorry you're SOL."

Which sucks because, as you said, really cool pool to mine alt coins on if it all works correctly...

[phzi]

Something seems odd about decred payouts, like they are short about 15%.

e.g. http://zpool.ca/?address=1Av5gw4wuRCgAfuw7Yinwze65vA8unzvv9

17.987 DCR block (9hr ago), percent was 6.7222% = 1.21DCR. But, paid only 1.02DCR (15% missing)
18.101 DCR block (10hr ago), percent was 5.7444% = 1.0397364. But, paid only 0.885760 DCR (15% missing)

What's happening here?

[seeks88]

I stopped mining on the pool, but it looks like my % shares just got adjusted to reflect the correct amount of decred awarded.

Why would the % shares be the variable to be adjusted?  Last night I was constantly checking my hashrate vs the pool's hashrate and the % shares according to my hashrate against the pool's matched up perfectly. The problem was that my % share of each block mined was ~15% more than I was being paid out for.

[meatslurpee]

Something seems odd about decred payouts, like they are short about 15%.

e.g. http://zpool.ca/?address=1Av5gw4wuRCgAfuw7Yinwze65vA8unzvv9

17.987 DCR block (9hr ago), percent was 6.7222% = 1.21DCR. But, paid only 1.02DCR (15% missing)
18.101 DCR block (10hr ago), percent was 5.7444% = 1.0397364. But, paid only 0.885760 DCR (15% missing)

What's happening here?

Tweet crackfoo. He is out of town so he will see that quickest. Judging by all the activity the last bit in the thread, there is obviously something wrong.

I'm also see I g the front end reading 1 confirm on 80 minute old EGC (x15) and BERN (x14) so obviously something is getting jammed up in the DB. Balance is also increasing in chunks instead of fluidly as normal so something is getting bogged down somewhere.

Typical these things happen when the dev is away.

[AngryDwarf]

Balance is also increasing in chunks instead of fluidly as normal so something is getting bogged down somewhere.

Is that pending balance or actual balance? I think I read a few threads back something about exchange delays. So it could be an exchange returning BTC with a low fee for the current competitive market place for block space, so taking a while to confirm. Or it could be not enough coins are being sent to that exchange to trigger the minimum withdraw balance (which keeps BTC withdrawal fee % low), or something is just a bit craptsy.
If its pending balance, that can get a bit chunky if mining some of the newer algos which have long block times. A bit of luck with good hash rate on algo solving a high value block can make the pending balance jump, followed by a slower period where blocks are not found, or only low value blocks are found.

[yuckotheclown80]

I tried to mine decred.
But i get : stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 not responding !

Is something wrong with the pool ?
Or do i have a issue with cgminer ?

This is the command line i use :
cgminer.exe --blake256 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 -u 1BZv8NwcXFwHZtX3wtkNiD3jaF1y59Ewjz -p d=2

[JaredKaragen]

Something seems odd about decred payouts, like they are short about 15%.

e.g. http://zpool.ca/?address=1Av5gw4wuRCgAfuw7Yinwze65vA8unzvv9

17.987 DCR block (9hr ago), percent was 6.7222% = 1.21DCR. But, paid only 1.02DCR (15% missing)
18.101 DCR block (10hr ago), percent was 5.7444% = 1.0397364. But, paid only 0.885760 DCR (15% missing)

What's happening here?

since it's yaamp is it possible that dcr to dcr weren't "exchanged" 1:1 ?

If the share % is wrong;  and your generated % is calced based off share %;  then theres the error overall.  Its just misreported on the frontend so says the pool owner.

I tried to mine decred.
But i get : stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 not responding !

Is something wrong with the pool ?
Or do i have a issue with cgminer ?

This is the command line i use :
cgminer.exe --blake256 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 -u 1BZv8NwcXFwHZtX3wtkNiD3jaF1y59Ewjz -p d=2

you are trying to run the blake256 algo on the decred port.... see below.  Make sure your miner supports decred and your video card.

cgminer.exe --decred -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 -u 1BZv8NwcXFwHZtX3wtkNiD3jaF1y59Ewjz -p c=BTC,d=2,decred

[yuckotheclown80]

I tried to mine decred.
But i get : stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 not responding !

Is something wrong with the pool ?
Or do i have a issue with cgminer ?

This is the command line i use :
cgminer.exe --blake256 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 -u 1BZv8NwcXFwHZtX3wtkNiD3jaF1y59Ewjz -p d=2

you are trying to run the blake256 algo on the decred port.... see below.  Make sure your miner supports decred and your video card.

cgminer.exe --decred -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 -u 1BZv8NwcXFwHZtX3wtkNiD3jaF1y59Ewjz -p c=BTC,d=2,decred

[/quote]

I tried this command line.
But cgminer shuts down after 1 second.
Is --decred correct ?
Because on the site of decred.
They say that they are using blake 256 !

[meatslurpee]

I tried to mine decred.
But i get : stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 not responding !

Is something wrong with the pool ?
Or do i have a issue with cgminer ?

This is the command line i use :
cgminer.exe --blake256 -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 -u 1BZv8NwcXFwHZtX3wtkNiD3jaF1y59Ewjz -p d=2

you are trying to run the blake256 algo on the decred port.... see below.  Make sure your miner supports decred and your video card.

cgminer.exe --decred -o stratum+tcp://mine.zpool.ca:5744 -u 1BZv8NwcXFwHZtX3wtkNiD3jaF1y59Ewjz -p c=BTC,d=2,decred

I tried this command line.
But cgminer shuts down after 1 second.
Is --decred correct ?
Because on the site of decred.
They say that they are using blake 256 !
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Yes, but you still need a version of ccminer that has the decred version of the blake256 algo added to it. There are several. Check cryptomining blog.

[Longsnowsm]

Has anyone had any luck getting the Claymore miner to work for decred on zpool?  If you have can you provide the syntax for the startup?  Thanks!