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April 01, 2013, 07:01:20 PM
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Can i just say that weexchange is ridiculously empty. Its making it basically impossible for me to get some BTC from AUD! bleh....

The fiat market's are still very new. The more people who start to use them (like yourself) means others will begin to gravitate towards them as well.
Also I am working to bring in some liquidity providers for them. Smiley
Understood, it just sucks that i've been trying to get some BTC for weeks and the more i wait the more the price goes up lol. Oh well... For the record they have temporarily disabled creating orders, unless its only me. Sad

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April 01, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
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There were some adjustments to be made. It is working again Smiley
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April 02, 2013, 02:54:31 AM
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Can i just say that weexchange is ridiculously empty. Its making it basically impossible for me to get some BTC from AUD! bleh....

You do realise that you aren't required to buy bitcoins from Weexchange to use Bitfunder, right? You can buy from where-ever (localbitcoins, bitinnovate, etc) and transfer into the Weexchange wallet, then transfer to Bitfunder.

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April 02, 2013, 05:35:53 AM
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Phew, good news for virtual shares trading.

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April 02, 2013, 09:01:42 PM
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Can i just say that weexchange is ridiculously empty. Its making it basically impossible for me to get some BTC from AUD! bleh....

You do realise that you aren't required to buy bitcoins from Weexchange to use Bitfunder, right? You can buy from where-ever (localbitcoins, bitinnovate, etc) and transfer into the Weexchange wallet, then transfer to Bitfunder.
I did it because it was the only AUD option available (whilst me being abroad) unless there is other AUD options that would be great Smiley

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April 02, 2013, 09:17:21 PM
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Can i just say that weexchange is ridiculously empty. Its making it basically impossible for me to get some BTC from AUD! bleh....

I think they will upgrade weexchange in the coming weeks.

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April 03, 2013, 02:10:06 AM
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Hi Ukyo!

Did you notice the notorious Bakewell deleted all of his asset's profile info?

If possible, please consider restoring it to aid in any recovery efforts.

Cheers!


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April 03, 2013, 04:41:17 AM
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Hi Ukyo!

Did you notice the notorious Bakewell deleted all of his asset's profile info?

If possible, please consider restoring it to aid in any recovery efforts.

Cheers!

https://bitfunder.com/asset/bakewell

LOL @ Ian.


Add: Ukto, what's this mean?  "Issuer may Modify Description:   Option not set."
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April 09, 2013, 07:33:28 PM
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Hi Ukyo!

Did you notice the notorious Bakewell deleted all of his asset's profile info?

If possible, please consider restoring it to aid in any recovery efforts.

Cheers!

https://bitfunder.com/asset/bakewell

LOL @ Ian.


Add: Ukto, what's this mean?  "Issuer may Modify Description:   Option not set."

Ukyo, please respond to these questions.  It's been a week since we asked them.


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April 09, 2013, 08:12:23 PM
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Ukyo, please give us some information about your understanding of the Bakewell scam situation either here or in the Bakewell thread.

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April 14, 2013, 06:17:02 PM
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Am i see it right or is the trading fee of bitfunder 5 times as high as the trading fee of btc-tc?

And regarding the connection to weexchange... i dont let btc lay around at weexchange or at bitfunder (which seems to be the same) but what happens to the exchange if weexchange is hacked and all money is stolen? I mean will bitfunder take a big risk there?

How can i make backups that serve as proof against the security issuer in case bitfunder closes for some reason? I mean some things learned from glbse.

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April 14, 2013, 07:46:18 PM
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Am i see it right or is the trading fee of bitfunder 5 times as high as the trading fee of btc-tc?

Nah, it's only 2.5 times as high (less if you trade a decent volume).  Bitfunder only charges a fee to the seller, BTC.CO charges both sides - so halve the Bitfunder rate when comparing.  And use .25% instead of .2% for BTC.CO if you don't use a Yubikey (I'd recommend you use one even without the fee discount - it's more secure and easier than Google 2FA/a PIN).
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April 14, 2013, 08:31:22 PM
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Am i see it right or is the trading fee of bitfunder 5 times as high as the trading fee of btc-tc?

Nah, it's only 2.5 times as high (less if you trade a decent volume).  Bitfunder only charges a fee to the seller, BTC.CO charges both sides - so halve the Bitfunder rate when comparing.  And use .25% instead of .2% for BTC.CO if you don't use a Yubikey (I'd recommend you use one even without the fee discount - it's more secure and easier than Google 2FA/a PIN).

Ah ok... but still 2.5 times.

Im not sure why a Yubikey should be more secure than 2FA because when it comes to stealing it i think a smartphone can be protected with a password or pin. A Yubikey can be simply used... if it has the website name on it or the thieve knows what its for.
But he anyway would still need the userpass to log in.

Maybe you speak about these new viruses that attack the pc and the smartphone of the user simultaneously. For that attack it would be safer. But i think if someone has the login-details and is a physicl thieve he only has to steal the smartphone or the Yubikey. It wouldnt matter much what it is.

What i like with 2FA too is that you have your smartphone with you most of the time. Yubikeys, maybe for different website different ones... has to be carried with you especially for that reason.

I dont see so big differences in security there.

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April 14, 2013, 09:00:38 PM
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Am i see it right or is the trading fee of bitfunder 5 times as high as the trading fee of btc-tc?

Nah, it's only 2.5 times as high (less if you trade a decent volume).  Bitfunder only charges a fee to the seller, BTC.CO charges both sides - so halve the Bitfunder rate when comparing.  And use .25% instead of .2% for BTC.CO if you don't use a Yubikey (I'd recommend you use one even without the fee discount - it's more secure and easier than Google 2FA/a PIN).

Ah ok... but still 2.5 times.

Im not sure why a Yubikey should be more secure than 2FA because when it comes to stealing it i think a smartphone can be protected with a password or pin. A Yubikey can be simply used... if it has the website name on it or the thieve knows what its for.
But he anyway would still need the userpass to log in.

Maybe you speak about these new viruses that attack the pc and the smartphone of the user simultaneously. For that attack it would be safer. But i think if someone has the login-details and is a physicl thieve he only has to steal the smartphone or the Yubikey. It wouldnt matter much what it is.

What i like with 2FA too is that you have your smartphone with you most of the time. Yubikeys, maybe for different website different ones... has to be carried with you especially for that reason.

I dont see so big differences in security there.

Yubikey is ONLY vulnerable to physical theft.  That's not such a concern to me - computer's hard drive is encrypted so if they steal computer and yubikey they still have no idea what it gives access to (or what my passwords are).

Biggest plus of it is it's so much easier.  I use it for every transaction - as I don't have to type in any codes or anything, just touch it and it types the code in.  Using Google 2FA is far more tedious and intrusive - which I guess is why most sites haven't even implemented authorising at a transaction level.

I use Yubikey on BTC.CO/LTC-GLobal and Google 2FA everywhere else that I can.  Yubikey is miles easier in my view - I'd happily have every transaction on all sites verified by Yubikey.  I'd go insane doing that with Google 2FA.

That said, you do raise an issue - that if I want to access BTC.CO/LTC-Global from my smart-phone then I have to disable Yubikey first.

You can use Yubikeys on as many sites as you want - unless they insist that they you purchase from them and run their own Yubikey servers.
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April 14, 2013, 09:30:19 PM
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Ukyo, still waiting for you to make some sort of comment on the Bakewell scam.

Please feel free to PM me if you get bored with these requests which I will keep posting every couple of days in your thread.

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April 16, 2013, 10:08:10 AM
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What is the reason for forcing Weexchange onto BitFunder users? I wanted to start using BitFunder, but something messed up during my Weexchange verification and now I am unable to use BitFunder until Weexchange responds to my emails. This is one area where BitFunder falls behind BTC-TC in my opinion.
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April 16, 2013, 10:26:06 AM
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Doesn't need to run another bitcoind with it's associated maintenance and security issues.

Weex isn't bad when you've made an account.
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April 16, 2013, 02:15:53 PM
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What is the reason for forcing Weexchange onto BitFunder users? I wanted to start using BitFunder, but something messed up during my Weexchange verification and now I am unable to use BitFunder until Weexchange responds to my emails. This is one area where BitFunder falls behind BTC-TC in my opinion.

I believe your money is stored at weexchange all the time. This way bitfunder doesnt have to take the risk for the users bitcoins.

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April 16, 2013, 02:25:07 PM
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What is the reason for forcing Weexchange onto BitFunder users? I wanted to start using BitFunder, but something messed up during my Weexchange verification and now I am unable to use BitFunder until Weexchange responds to my emails. This is one area where BitFunder falls behind BTC-TC in my opinion.

I believe your money is stored at weexchange all the time. This way bitfunder doesnt have to take the risk for the users bitcoins.

Ahh. This makes more sense. Guess I'll just have to wait to hear from weexchange in regards to my account.
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April 16, 2013, 06:41:33 PM
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I just want to say thanks to Ukyo, Ukto and Graet on the #bitfunder and #weex IRC channels for helping me sort out my Google 2FA issues. Thumbs up! Cheesy

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