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[koang]

I don't worry about the rival of Bagnaia, but I have to worry about another Ducati racer who can be the black horse for Quartararo. Yes, Miller and Bastianini are a must to watch carefully, they do not show up their power drastically like the partner Bagnaia, they have come secretive which can make the surprise until the finish. And, what a point I make sure is, Quartararo is not good either, he's not fierce anymore like a year ago where can be possible can beat from Ducati team on this year.

Ducati has eight riders on the MotoGP grid. However, Pecco has the best bike and the best among the other Ducati riders.
And don't forget Marquez, the right arm that has been his complaint for the last two seasons has started to recover.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Marc win a race or two for the rest of the year.

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[Fakhrulenclix]

The FIM MotoGP™ World Championship is coming to Kazakhstan! 2023 marks the start of a new five-year deal that sees MotoGP™ touch down in a new region of the world as the stunning Sokol International Racetrack joins the calendar.

Located just outside Kazakhstan’s largest city, Almaty, Sokol is a brand-new motorsport complex constructed in the heart of Central Asia. The region will be a new pitstop for MotoGP™ as the sport continues to expand around the world, engaging with new markets and fanbases.

Kazakhstan will also become the 30th country to host a motorcycle Grand Prix since 1949, a perfect landmark number to celebrate the ever-expanding history of the world’s first motorsport World Championship, and Sokol International Racetrack will be the 74th venue to host a premier class Grand Prix.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/09/27/motogp-lands-in-kazakhstan-in-2023/438399

This is great news for MotoGP fans in Central Asia with more circuits hosting MotoGP next year.

now MotoGP is getting fiercer with several racers competing for the world champion.

this weekend the race will be held at the Chang International Thailand, tough competition will be unavoidable due to Quartararo and Bagnai's fierce competition for the world title this season, and interestingly again just in FP 1 marc marquez performed brilliantly by being able to record the best time, with This is the possibility that at the Race weekend there will be several racers who will compete in the front row, it will be very interesting of course.

[swogerino]

The FIM MotoGP™ World Championship is coming to Kazakhstan! 2023 marks the start of a new five-year deal that sees MotoGP™ touch down in a new region of the world as the stunning Sokol International Racetrack joins the calendar.

Located just outside Kazakhstan’s largest city, Almaty, Sokol is a brand-new motorsport complex constructed in the heart of Central Asia. The region will be a new pitstop for MotoGP™ as the sport continues to expand around the world, engaging with new markets and fanbases.

Kazakhstan will also become the 30th country to host a motorcycle Grand Prix since 1949, a perfect landmark number to celebrate the ever-expanding history of the world’s first motorsport World Championship, and Sokol International Racetrack will be the 74th venue to host a premier class Grand Prix.

Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/09/27/motogp-lands-in-kazakhstan-in-2023/438399

This is great news for MotoGP fans in Central Asia with more circuits hosting MotoGP next year.

now MotoGP is getting fiercer with several racers competing for the world champion.

this weekend the race will be held at the Chang International Thailand, tough competition will be unavoidable due to Quartararo and Bagnai's fierce competition for the world title this season, and interestingly again just in FP 1 marc marquez performed brilliantly by being able to record the best time, with This is the possibility that at the Race weekend there will be several racers who will compete in the front row, it will be very interesting of course.

I think no one has doubts that Marquez is the best rider from these that are racing in MotoGP but we all know his story and his thousand injuries which at some point have hindered his career in MotoGP.

He has won even against much better riders than the ones actually participating right now in MotoGP and I think the fact that he is setting the best time shows a lot about his performance rather than Honda right now.It is one of those examples where the man is above the machine.He only adds to the beauty of MotoGP and I hope he still continues to race next year and be injury free.

[Koal-84]

Unfortunately this is a sad truth.Ferrari started the season great and it showed supremacy in the first races of the season,however things started to precipitate since the Imola GP from an error of their main driver which could not hold emotions in front of a great cheering crowd that made him go the extra mile which unfortunately made him spin out of the track.That was just the beginning,the next one in Monaco was a total disaster when the team first invited him for pit stop then as soon as he entered the pits,they told him to stay out.Errors like this continued in the upcoming races like failures in Azerbaijan GP and as a sum of all these errors Ferrari is out of both the driver and constructors title fight.

I also think RedBull was not the better car in the field especially in the first half of the season, and by no means as dominant as Mercedes the last 8 years (felt), but Ferrari and also LecLerc have many own mistakes and that's why they are where they are now.
RedBull had most the better strategy and also the better pit stops, the combination of car, team and Verstappen as a driver is unattainable this year, but Ferrari screwed that up themselves.

[boltz]

Unfortunately this is a sad truth.Ferrari started the season great and it showed supremacy in the first races of the season,however things started to precipitate since the Imola GP from an error of their main driver which could not hold emotions in front of a great cheering crowd that made him go the extra mile which unfortunately made him spin out of the track.That was just the beginning,the next one in Monaco was a total disaster when the team first invited him for pit stop then as soon as he entered the pits,they told him to stay out.Errors like this continued in the upcoming races like failures in Azerbaijan GP and as a sum of all these errors Ferrari is out of both the driver and constructors title fight.

I also think RedBull was not the better car in the field especially in the first half of the season, and by no means as dominant as Mercedes the last 8 years (felt), but Ferrari and also LecLerc have many own mistakes and that's why they are where they are now.
RedBull had most the better strategy and also the better pit stops, the combination of car, team and Verstappen as a driver is unattainable this year, but Ferrari screwed that up themselves.

I must agree in totally with you because I think Ferrari had the better car at the start of the season but the car itself had no durability and that put Ferrari down in the next coming races alongside with a few mistakes by Leclerc that cost them 1 win but overall , Ferrari shined for only 4 races and that's it. RedBull are working like an AI , doing almost no mistakes , they have clean pit stops , clean strategies and 2 drivers that so far acting like a team.

[Jackl87]

I also think RedBull was not the better car in the field especially in the first half of the season, and by no means as dominant as Mercedes the last 8 years (felt), but Ferrari and also LecLerc have many own mistakes and that's why they are where they are now.
RedBull had most the better strategy and also the better pit stops, the combination of car, team and Verstappen as a driver is unattainable this year, but Ferrari screwed that up themselves.

I also think that the huge lead in points that Verstappen is now having over LeClerc is not really an indicator about the performances of both cars, because the Red Bull is not that far ahead of the Ferrari in terms of performance. That is pretty obvious in most of the qualifyings and of course also in the races. A huge factor is the performance of Max Verstappen himself this year. He is driving on a extremely high level almost every race and basically did not make a single big mistake so far this season if i remember correctly.
This is pretty obvious if you compare his results with the ones of Sergio Perez, who is having a hard time to be in front of the Ferraris in most races.

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1   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m43.033s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.117s
3   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m43.435s
4   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.839s
5   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m44.066s
6   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m44.138s
7   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m44.736s
8   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m45.221s
9   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m45.258s
10   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m45.336s
11   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m45.354s
12   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m45.724s
13   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m45.725s
14   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m46.028s
15   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m46.081s
16   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m46.119s
17   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m46.408s
18   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   1m46.601s
19   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m46.680s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m47.092s


Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1013176/1/f1-2022-singapore-grand-prix-free-practice-results-1


The first hour of free practice has been concluded with Mercedes on Top 

[tokeweed]

^  FP2 has a more interesting result.  I'm pretty sure Ferrari fans will be happy.  Lol.  After a few more tweaks with the cars to get the right balance, FP3 will really be interesting...  Quali after that.  I think the books might have over valued Verstappen lining him at 1.40 going into the event.  From a betting perspective it's good that he loses so we get the normal +EV lines in the next couple of races again. 

2022 F1 Singapore GP FP2 Results

1   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.587s
2   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m42.795s
3   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m42.911s
4   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m42.926s
5   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   1m43.182s
6   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m43.412s
7   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m43.431s
8   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m43.520s
9   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m43.906s
10   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m43.982s
11   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   1m44.013s
12   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   1m44.219s
13   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   1m44.422s
14   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   1m44.469s
15   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   1m44.524s
16   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   1m45.144s
17   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    1m45.211s
18   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   1m45.447s
19   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   1m45.623s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   1m46.553s

[swogerino]

The Ferraris looking good at the second practice by topping the leaderboards but seeing that Verstappen is just there means that maybe Redbull has not use its full power which has been the case in the last race.I know there are a lot of drivers who maybe get penalized but I don't know who they are,nevertheless as we saw in the last race it won't do anything good to the race even if Verstappen starts 14th or lower in the grid because most probably he is going to win it anyway and this is a good track which emphasizes drivers capability.

[coinlocket$]

What about the RBR going over the budget cap?
As I know the FIA, they will not punish them, again.

It is a shame, they were gifted with the title over Hamilton and they also cheated.

[ryzaadit]

-SNIP-

Looking good doesn't enough.

Who give a shit good on "Practice or Qualification" while Redbull always take Podium no matter position they start (Started on up to 10+ position grid). As TIFOSI, a good time watching "Ferarri" is always on Friday & Saturday.

Because, we're struggling take podium in Sunday ~XD.

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As predicted, Fia is already covering it all.

They said it is only speculation from Germany and Italy. 

[Pulsar77]

Practice sessions are likely to be misleading as always. Ferrari always seem much better here but as of even qualifying session things start to go Red Bull's way directly.

I feel the same thing for this race as usual. However we might see an interesting race at the same time if we see some rain during the race. But even under rain Verstappen still has a big advantage. Actually Hamilton also likes rainy days but he still hasn't got a strong car to compete with Verstappen at the same level yet. Actually I'm thinking of betting on qualifying session and race both.



The odds for qualifying session are really close to each other for Verstappen and Leclerc. As I find Verstappen's odd pretty tempting I'll go with it.



However I can't say the same thing for the race.    But if I combine Verstappen on both of them the total odd is 4.03 which is very ideal.

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The big scandal of F1 is not over yet, the media are questioning the 3 titles won by RBR

The violation of the salary cap is huge, 10 million and it equals to years of engineering work.

[swogerino]

The big scandal of F1 is not over yet, the media are questioning the 3 titles won by RBR

The violation of the salary cap is huge, 10 million and it equals to years of engineering work.

Yeah F1 is always like gossip and we have to see to whom those titles will go if the FIA decides to remove them from Redbull which I find it extremely highly unlikely.

By the way does any driver has penalties for today and tomorrow,I need this to know before going to place a bet,I checked the news and I didn't see penalties for Verstappen or Leclerc which are the main candidates to win the qualifying.

[Republikcoin.com]

I think no one has doubts that Marquez is the best rider from these that are racing in MotoGP but we all know his story and his thousand injuries which at some point have hindered his career in MotoGP.

Marquez has not had thousands of injuries except for only two in the same hand and it has been operated on four times which has prevented him from performing better. And his career in the MotoGP class is indeed extraordinary, but Marquez's own gait at the MotoGP has only been running for 9 years if it is calculated from 2013 to this year.

He has won even against much better riders than the ones actually participating right now in MotoGP and I think the fact that he is setting the best time shows a lot about his performance rather than Honda right now.It is one of those examples where the man is above the machine.He only adds to the beauty of MotoGP and I hope he still continues to race next year and be injury free.

Tomorrow Marquez will start the race in 8th position and that is not very good because considering there are many Ducati motorcycles in front of him tomorrow and among the six Ducati motorcycles one of them will definitely be very superior in tomorrow's race. And congratulations to Marco Bezzecchi who earned Pole position by breaking the 2019 record set by Quartararo. This is something very extraordinary because Valentino Rossi's independent team will start the race in first position with Jorge Martin and Pecco Bagnaia completing the grid on a Ducati.

[boltz]

As predicted, Fia is already covering it all.

They said it is only speculation from Germany and Italy.  

FIA is killing F1 lately and it all started since Liberty Media came to power and started to demand things in left and right and everyone is kinda dancing like they told to. As a long F1 fan , I really lost passion for it during this year because we can all see that they wanna push Max and over hype him like no other driver in history and that makes me sick. Then , we have RBR , who will make anything and try anything in order to make Max win the races no matter what they need to do...overall , this is not F1 I fell in love with 24 years ago...

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1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m57.782s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m58.308s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m58.848s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m59.429s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m59.562s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m00.373s
7   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   2m00.911s
8   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m01.007s
9   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.010s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.036s
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   2m01.089s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.220s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   2m01.245s
14   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   2m01.502s
15   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    2m01.679s
16   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.791s
17   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   2m01.907s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.066s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.599s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   2m03.510s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1013363/1/f1-2022-singapore-grand-prix-free-practice-results-3


was light rain on the track, not a surprise to read the top drivers when skill is involved.

[Republikcoin.com]

The country of India with a very strong economic and cultural strength will make its debut in the world automotive sports event (MotoGP) where the schedule is also included in the MotoGP calendar for next year. This is really unique where Dorna is targeting a country with a very large market share of motorcycle users there (India). Buddh International Circuit, as the Grand Prix of Bharat is the latest addition to Kazakhstan which has been included in the MotoGP calendar 2023. So the number of races for next year will be 21 races.
Source: https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2022/09/30/motogp-to-race-in-india-from-2023/438681

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1   Charles Leclerc   MON   Scuderia Ferrari   1m57.782s
2   Max Verstappen   NED   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m58.308s
3   Carlos Sainz   ESP   Scuderia Ferrari   1m58.848s
4   Fernando Alonso   ESP   BWT Alpine F1 Team   1m59.429s
5   Sergio Perez   MEX   Oracle Red Bull Racing   1m59.562s
6   Lance Stroll   CAN   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m00.373s
7   Esteban Ocon   FRA   BWT Alpine F1 Team   2m00.911s
8   Sebastian Vettel   GER   Aston Martin Aramco Cognizant Formula One Team   2m01.007s
9   George Russell   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.010s
10   Daniel Ricciardo   AUS   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.036s
11   Kevin Magnussen   DEN   Haas F1 Team   2m01.089s
12   Lewis Hamilton   GBR   Mercedes AMG Petronas Formula One Team   2m01.220s
13   Pierre Gasly   FRA   Scuderia AlphaTauri   2m01.245s
14   Mick Schumacher    GER   Haas F1 Team   2m01.502s
15   Yuki Tsunoda   JPN   Scuderia AlphaTauri    2m01.679s
16   Lando Norris   GBR   McLaren F1 Team   2m01.791s
17   Alex Albon   THA   Williams Racing   2m01.907s
18   Valtteri Bottas   FIN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.066s
19   Zhou Guanyu   CHN   Alfa Romeo F1 Team Orlen   2m02.599s
20   Nicholas Latifi   CAN   Williams Racing   2m03.510s

Source: https://www.crash.net/f1/results/1013363/1/f1-2022-singapore-grand-prix-free-practice-results-3


was light rain on the track, not a surprise to read the top drivers when skill is involved.

Good one for Leclerc.  I for one have always found myself rooting for him.  He's a good driver, even Vettel said so and he respects Leclerc.  It's frustrating to watch him suffer from his team's idiotic calls sometimes.  But don't lose hope if you're a Ferrari fan.  Good things will come as Binotto is a good builder of cars.  It's the team's race strategist who should go.