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February 24, 2017, 12:02:26 AM
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Pausing trading on ionomy itself is going to put a damper on my quest for knowledge, but since I am a true ionomy believer, I will not be withdrawing my coins to participate in trading on bittrex. This can only mean good things for my quest to win the investor competition since many people will be withdrawing to participate.

This may skew the results of my experiment, but may result in an increase in comedy gold.
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February 24, 2017, 12:17:48 AM
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I'd like to see addresses for all Ionomy owned coins from the pre-mine as well as the staked coins from said pre-mine.

No wishy washy non answer here's the genesis block figure it out yourself BS please. Is Ionomy not trying to make it big? Don't you think they'd appreciate if the whales acted like professionals while they represent Ionomy in the forums?

Maybe edit the title post and put all the addresses there? That's a constructive suggestion. I'd give them a little respect if they became fully transparent. We'll see if it happens.
Here is the ones I could put together-
Allocated to ionomy=https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?23.htm
bounty address=https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?24.htm
About 50 masternodes give or take.

3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.
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February 24, 2017, 01:40:17 AM
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How come ION on yobit is still at 4400 sats while on bittrex i't sover 15k.. are they not the same coin? I'm confuse

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February 24, 2017, 01:47:07 AM
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3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

Unsurprisingly for a whale - you're lying. Only coins staked since ~ October 2016 are still held in the addresses. There was a million or so coins staked before then and that amount is unaccounted for.

Also your numbers are off by ~100k.

How come ION on yobit is still at 4400 sats while on bittrex i't sover 15k.. are they not the same coin? I'm confuse

The "team" forked (well, "rebased") the coin and didn't feel it's important to get Yobit onboard with the change. So most likely Yobit is on the wrong chain and the wallet is in maintenance anyway, so stay away from it.
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February 24, 2017, 04:43:30 AM
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I'd like to see addresses for all Ionomy owned coins from the pre-mine as well as the staked coins from said pre-mine.

No wishy washy non answer here's the genesis block figure it out yourself BS please. Is Ionomy not trying to make it big? Don't you think they'd appreciate if the whales acted like professionals while they represent Ionomy in the forums?

Maybe edit the title post and put all the addresses there? That's a constructive suggestion. I'd give them a little respect if they became fully transparent. We'll see if it happens.
Here is the ones I could put together-
Allocated to ionomy=https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?23.htm
bounty address=https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?24.htm
About 50 masternodes give or take.

3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

why 50 masternodes? the team did a big premine. they should not be operating masternodes with a premine. its diluting investor returns thar run masternodes. they drew in enough btc in ico not to need this. id like to see an explanation why considering their bounty payments are so low compared to mn rewards for 50 mns.

i predicted ages ago they had the premine in masternodes and showed earning/dump factors.

another point i'll raise is did anyone check coin amount pre re-base and check new ion genesis block to match amounts. a rebase is a good way to hide a second premine. at block length when cut date was should match genesis block of new else its shady dealings as well
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February 24, 2017, 02:50:38 PM
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3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

Unsurprisingly for a whale - you're lying. Only coins staked since ~ October 2016 are still held in the addresses. There was a million or so coins staked before then and that amount is unaccounted for.

Also your numbers are off by ~100k.

How come ION on yobit is still at 4400 sats while on bittrex i't sover 15k.. are they not the same coin? I'm confuse

The "team" forked (well, "rebased") the coin and didn't feel it's important to get Yobit onboard with the change. So most likely Yobit is on the wrong chain and the wallet is in maintenance anyway, so stay away from it.

Actually not sure where you got the idea that im a whale (im not)? If its not the right information well, I supposed you paid more attention than me then? I didnt intentionally lie as its the info I put together. Yea as suchmoon said stay away from YOBIT as thats a different "ion" thats listed there.
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February 24, 2017, 03:08:26 PM
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I'd like to see addresses for all Ionomy owned coins from the pre-mine as well as the staked coins from said pre-mine.

No wishy washy non answer here's the genesis block figure it out yourself BS please. Is Ionomy not trying to make it big? Don't you think they'd appreciate if the whales acted like professionals while they represent Ionomy in the forums?

Maybe edit the title post and put all the addresses there? That's a constructive suggestion. I'd give them a little respect if they became fully transparent. We'll see if it happens.
Here is the ones I could put together-
Allocated to ionomy=https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?23.htm
bounty address=https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/address.dws?24.htm
About 50 masternodes give or take.

3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

why 50 masternodes? the team did a big premine. they should not be operating masternodes with a premine. its diluting investor returns thar run masternodes. they drew in enough btc in ico not to need this. id like to see an explanation why considering their bounty payments are so low compared to mn rewards for 50 mns.

i predicted ages ago they had the premine in masternodes and showed earning/dump factors.

another point i'll raise is did anyone check coin amount pre re-base and check new ion genesis block to match amounts. a rebase is a good way to hide a second premine. at block length when cut date was should match genesis block of new else its shady dealings as well

There was actually 22,600 less ion after rebase. Here is the transaction https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/block.dws?00000002e04f91402d78b84433ec744aacac5c40952b918fe09a7d623ac33967.htm

The "old ION" explorer https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/
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February 24, 2017, 04:10:56 PM
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Actually not sure where you got the idea that im a whale (im not)? If its not the right information well, I supposed you paid more attention than me then? I didnt intentionally lie as its the info I put together. Yea as suchmoon said stay away from YOBIT as thats a different "ion" thats listed there.

Awkward. Apologies for calling you a whale, must me unpleasant to be put in the same category as shark and korvas. But then how come you bragged about playing Gravity alpha?

You also replied to posts mentioning the 1 million ION discrepancy back in October or November, so are you not reading what you're replying to or what? How can you "put info together" and not even look at the block explorer to make sure it's correct - isn't that just an equivalent of making shit up?
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February 24, 2017, 05:37:32 PM
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Pausing trading on ionomy itself is going to put a damper on my quest for knowledge, but since I am a true ionomy believer, I will not be withdrawing my coins to participate in trading on bittrex. This can only mean good things for my quest to win the investor competition since many people will be withdrawing to participate.

This may skew the results of my experiment, but may result in an increase in comedy gold.

What u wrote reads like u encountered severe difficulties in the process of solving that quest and failed to comprehend the point raised by few older members three pages back: ionomy does not need believers shit, let alone the fact that doesnt need barrow boys like u among followers that are used to complaining about shit investment that went belly up in the eve of a new era of highest bitcoin pumps thoroughly orchestrated by members of bene gesserit guild.

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February 25, 2017, 03:34:01 AM
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Actually not sure where you got the idea that im a whale (im not)? If its not the right information well, I supposed you paid more attention than me then? I didnt intentionally lie as its the info I put together. Yea as suchmoon said stay away from YOBIT as thats a different "ion" thats listed there.

Awkward. Apologies for calling you a whale, must me unpleasant to be put in the same category as shark and korvas. But then how come you bragged about playing Gravity alpha?

You also replied to posts mentioning the 1 million ION discrepancy back in October or November, so are you not reading what you're replying to or what? How can you "put info together" and not even look at the block explorer to make sure it's correct - isn't that just an equivalent of making shit up?


So If it was right on the block explorer there would be no reason to ask where the 1M coins are then? I answered back then (which you had to have read since you scanned through my post history). The 100k you say im off by im not real sure where that comes from so I stand corrected if the block explorer numbers are not right. Is this the 1M (or so) your talking about?https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?1816.htm
If so they can be found right here https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/block.dws?00000002e04f91402d78b84433ec744aacac5c40952b918fe09a7d623ac33967.htmstarting at address  icpwvkqKbiYKsMTaGJYX4kWz1LtEiw95bf and going to address id2ChexbhnGm9rAP9Xqr1R2L11ovk77SSD
Or is it mixed among these 2.2M? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?388.htm
Which can be found at the same place starting at address iXiZnT3YNu1wenYedPvdvCkvFVudno5XHF going to address iibcGMYZFv66rvCdCYhuRoyKbnLg1gqEQW

p.s I "bragged" about playing the game because I did. Im not a whale though.
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February 25, 2017, 03:58:45 AM
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So If it was right on the block explorer there would be no reason to ask where the 1M coins are then? I answered back then (which you had to have read since you scanned through my post history). The 100k you say im off by im not real sure where that comes from so I stand corrected if the block explorer numbers are not right. Is this the 1M (or so) your talking about?https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?1816.htm
If so they can be found right here https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/block.dws?00000002e04f91402d78b84433ec744aacac5c40952b918fe09a7d623ac33967.htmstarting at address  icpwvkqKbiYKsMTaGJYX4kWz1LtEiw95bf and going to address id2ChexbhnGm9rAP9Xqr1R2L11ovk77SSD
Or is it mixed among these 2.2M? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?388.htm
Which can be found at the same place starting at address iXiZnT3YNu1wenYedPvdvCkvFVudno5XHF going to address iibcGMYZFv66rvCdCYhuRoyKbnLg1gqEQW

That's not the point. You claimed that the two bounty addresses contain original coins plus staked coins, which is not true and that can be easily seen in the block explorer - the addresses were funded in October with the whitepaper amounts (2.5 and 3.4 million) so coins staked between May and October are not there.

Of course they are SOMEWHERE, the "team" may have them or may have dumped them, we can try to guess but that's meaningless since the "team" is clearly is not interested in keeping the public ledger in order. For example the current 2.5m address did not originate from the original set of 25x 100k addresses that were published in a doc on slack at one point, the coins were moved around and mixed with no regard for the whitepaper.

The "missing" coins are the RESULT of the real issue - persistent lack of transparency and accountability. Ask them about escrow when you get a chance.

You're off by 100k here, check the explorer:

3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!rich
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Pausing trading on ionomy itself is going to put a damper on my quest for knowledge, but since I am a true ionomy believer, I will not be withdrawing my coins to participate in trading on bittrex. This can only mean good things for my quest to win the investor competition since many people will be withdrawing to participate.

This may skew the results of my experiment, but may result in an increase in comedy gold.

What u wrote reads like u encountered severe difficulties in the process of solving that quest and failed to comprehend the point raised by few older members three pages back: ionomy does not need believers shit, let alone the fact that doesnt need barrow boys like u among followers that are used to complaining about shit investment that went belly up in the eve of a new era of highest bitcoin pumps thoroughly orchestrated by members of bene gesserit guild.

The severe difficulties are, as usual, team ionomy changing things on the fly.

Announce an investor competition to last the whole month, then close the market on Feb 24 to organize a pump somewhere else. Withdrawing ions from the ionomy counts against you in the competition, so the ton of true believers withdrawing to go play on bittrex may skew the results of the competition, but it also may give me some sweet sweet ions, so who knows.
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February 25, 2017, 05:26:37 AM
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So If it was right on the block explorer there would be no reason to ask where the 1M coins are then? I answered back then (which you had to have read since you scanned through my post history). The 100k you say im off by im not real sure where that comes from so I stand corrected if the block explorer numbers are not right. Is this the 1M (or so) your talking about?https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?1816.htm
If so they can be found right here https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/block.dws?00000002e04f91402d78b84433ec744aacac5c40952b918fe09a7d623ac33967.htmstarting at address  icpwvkqKbiYKsMTaGJYX4kWz1LtEiw95bf and going to address id2ChexbhnGm9rAP9Xqr1R2L11ovk77SSD
Or is it mixed among these 2.2M? https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion-old/wallet.dws?388.htm
Which can be found at the same place starting at address iXiZnT3YNu1wenYedPvdvCkvFVudno5XHF going to address iibcGMYZFv66rvCdCYhuRoyKbnLg1gqEQW

That's not the point. You claimed that the two bounty addresses contain original coins plus staked coins, which is not true and that can be easily seen in the block explorer - the addresses were funded in October with the whitepaper amounts (2.5 and 3.4 million) so coins staked between May and October are not there.

Of course they are SOMEWHERE, the "team" may have them or may have dumped them, we can try to guess but that's meaningless since the "team" is clearly is not interested in keeping the public ledger in order. For example the current 2.5m address did not originate from the original set of 25x 100k addresses that were published in a doc on slack at one point, the coins were moved around and mixed with no regard for the whitepaper.

The "missing" coins are the RESULT of the real issue - persistent lack of transparency and accountability. Ask them about escrow when you get a chance.

You're off by 100k here, check the explorer:

3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

https://chainz.cryptoid.info/ion/#!rich

Fair enough, I agree and asked before along with many others about having addresses posted,and being more transparent about coins. I think it would be good to have a page on ionomys website that shows all coin addresses they control along with the number of masternodes they have running at any given time. The best I or others can do is ask,eventually hopefully they will come up with something.
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February 25, 2017, 05:30:58 AM
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Pausing trading on ionomy itself is going to put a damper on my quest for knowledge, but since I am a true ionomy believer, I will not be withdrawing my coins to participate in trading on bittrex. This can only mean good things for my quest to win the investor competition since many people will be withdrawing to participate.

This may skew the results of my experiment, but may result in an increase in comedy gold.

What u wrote reads like u encountered severe difficulties in the process of solving that quest and failed to comprehend the point raised by few older members three pages back: ionomy does not need believers shit, let alone the fact that doesnt need barrow boys like u among followers that are used to complaining about shit investment that went belly up in the eve of a new era of highest bitcoin pumps thoroughly orchestrated by members of bene gesserit guild.

The severe difficulties are, as usual, team ionomy changing things on the fly.

Announce an investor competition to last the whole month, then close the market on Feb 24 to organize a pump somewhere else. Withdrawing ions from the ionomy counts against you in the competition, so the ton of true believers withdrawing to go play on bittrex may skew the results of the competition, but it also may give me some sweet sweet ions, so who knows.
1000 free ion for winning the investor competition would make you a little money ehh Wink Hell you could even DUMP ion for the next 90 days with your staker payout. Cant beat that deal. Just log in before sharky everyday so he dont have the price down to much lol
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February 25, 2017, 05:46:08 AM
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3.4M incentives (whitepaper) 354,500 ION staked
2.5M Bounty (whitepaper) 476,015 ION staked
The coins staked are still held in the addresses.

Unsurprisingly for a whale - you're lying. Only coins staked since ~ October 2016 are still held in the addresses. There was a million or so coins staked before then and that amount is unaccounted for.

Also your numbers are off by ~100k.

How come ION on yobit is still at 4400 sats while on bittrex i't sover 15k.. are they not the same coin? I'm confuse

The "team" forked (well, "rebased") the coin and didn't feel it's important to get Yobit onboard with the change. So most likely Yobit is on the wrong chain and the wallet is in maintenance anyway, so stay away from it.

IMO yobit is a joke, you know they can be manipulating the fake price, and if people buy at yobit, their coins can't be sent, scam exchange.
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February 25, 2017, 02:09:17 PM
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YoBit Sucks Ass! They hold coins hostage till the dev’s pay up BTC to update the wallets. ION is not the only coin with this issue with YoBit…
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February 25, 2017, 02:21:53 PM
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I like Cryptobuds mocking me was mocking you..... I know it's an observation

Earlier today on slack someone as a joke posted a picture showing a 3 hour countdown to the Gravity launch, they then explained how they did it.

You took this information and as usual turned it into something to better fit your narrative  Smiley

Also thanks for sharing a slack personnal favorite here's one of mine.

https://i.imgur.com/HpgurRW.jpg

This is not one of your better lies. The reality is you are on slack 24/7 monitoring the channel looking for stuff to distort and post.

Unfortunately this has been your modus operandi for months now and shows no sign of changing   Sad  

@Suchmoon CHILL OUT and watch the countdown!!!

Suchmoon to the moon week... if you keep asking the questions, people might think you a supervisor and think you should be payed with IONs!!!

Entertainment for the week by Suchmoon

I'm still fascinated that you two shills are so fascinated by my personality that you need to make shit up to keep the conspiracy theory going Grin

I'm sorry, I didn't know someone on slack noticed the timer thing. If you can let me know who that was I'll edit my post and credit them with the discovery.
Edit: I guess I should have known better than trust anything coming out of your shilly piehole. I posted about the timer at 2:52 AM UTC, @kris on slack posted the screenshot at 3:34 AM UTC. Conspiracy solved, you're welcome.

Speaking of distortion - "stopping by" was in the context of me stopping by to chat on slack... of course I look at it more often than once a month, how else would I get those amazingly amusing screenshots?

Ok, so now that we established that this whole ionomy clusterfuck is clearly my fault (again), can we get back on topic?

No marketing seems to be forthcoming so presumably the existing bagholders/whales will have the joy and honor of bankrolling it further. But perhaps I'm wrong about this so I'll math a little bit with the generous assumption that there is a plan to rope new users in.

Mobile gaming ARPU seems to be $40-ish. ION inflation ATM is ~29k ION or ~3k USD per day or 1+ million USD per year. Therefore ionomy needs 25k+ average users just to break even on inflation (25,000 * $40 = $1m). Actually it's probably closer to 75k users since only one third of in-game spending goes to the purchase pool.

https://www.statista.com/outlook/211/109/mobile-games/united-states#market-users

That doesn't account for the 17 million coins that already exist and don't seem to be backed by anything of value. There is probably quite a bit of pent-up dump pressure in there.


Your words in bold


I'm still fascinated that you two shills are so fascinated by my personality that you need to make shit up to keep the conspiracy theory going Grin


And I'm still fascinated at why you think I would be fascinated by your personality and have to make stuff up to keep a conspiracy theory going.

I'm sorry, I didn't know someone on slack noticed the timer thing. If you can let me know who that was I'll edit my post and credit them with the discovery.
Edit: I guess I should have known better than trust anything coming out of your shilly piehole. I posted about the timer at 2:52 AM UTC, @kris on slack posted the screenshot at 3:34 AM UTC. Conspiracy solved, you're welcome.


You've just said you didn't notice anyone on slack post about the timer and then you say you posted before @kris. I didn't mention anybody...hmmmm CONTRADICTION in one paragraph.... impressive

Speaking of distortion - "stopping by" was in the context of me stopping by to chat on slack... of course I look at it more often than once a month, how else would I get those amazingly amusing screenshots?

If you say so who I am to argue

Ok, so now that we established that this whole ionomy clusterfuck is clearly my fault (again), can we get back on topic?


No.1. it's very far from a clusterfuck and No.2 Nothing is your fault as your comments are really insignificant. Failure is defined as either Ionomy are  unable to implement their model or the market won't be interested in their offering

No marketing seems to be forthcoming so presumably the existing bagholders/whales will have the joy and honor of bankrolling it further.


Thanks goodness your not responsible for any ICO money. In this post alone you've demonstrated that if you were responsible you would have wasted resource and money on an over engineered countdown clock and blown marketing money promoting what exactly.

But perhaps I'm wrong about this so I'll math a little bit with the generous assumption that there is a plan to rope new users in.


Mobile gaming ARPU seems to be $40-ish. ION inflation ATM is ~29k ION or ~3k USD per day or 1+ million USD per year. Therefore ionomy needs 25k+ average users just to break even on inflation (25,000 * $40 = $1m). Actually it's probably closer to 75k users since only one third of in-game spending goes to the purchase pool.

https://www.statista.com/outlook/211/109/mobile-games/united-states#market-users

That doesn't account for the 17 million coins that already exist and don't seem to be backed by anything of value. There is probably quite a bit of pent-up dump pressure in there.  


Your wrong alright but no point countering as this discussion is irrelevant. First game is soon to launch so we will know in a month or so how wrong or right you are.  

Looking forward to reading your review of Gravity Smiley

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February 25, 2017, 04:06:10 PM
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I'm sorry, I didn't know someone on slack noticed the timer thing. If you can let me know who that was I'll edit my post and credit them with the discovery.
Edit: I guess I should have known better than trust anything coming out of your shilly piehole. I posted about the timer at 2:52 AM UTC, @kris on slack posted the screenshot at 3:34 AM UTC. Conspiracy solved, you're welcome.


You've just said you didn't notice anyone on slack post about the timer and then you say you posted before @kris. I didn't mention anybody...hmmmm CONTRADICTION in one paragraph.... impressive

The part after "Edit:" was added later. Since you didn't let me know who it was I checked myself. And found out that you lied. I'm baffled how you STILL don't know that lying to ME about ME is quite pointless. You better focus on lying about ionomy, there is at least a chance that you could find someone dumber than you to believe it.

Mobile gaming ARPU seems to be $40-ish. ION inflation ATM is ~29k ION or ~3k USD per day or 1+ million USD per year. Therefore ionomy needs 25k+ average users just to break even on inflation (25,000 * $40 = $1m). Actually it's probably closer to 75k users since only one third of in-game spending goes to the purchase pool.

https://www.statista.com/outlook/211/109/mobile-games/united-states#market-users

That doesn't account for the 17 million coins that already exist and don't seem to be backed by anything of value. There is probably quite a bit of pent-up dump pressure in there.  


Your wrong alright but no point countering as this discussion is irrelevant. First game is soon to launch so we will know in a month or so how wrong or right you are.  

Looking forward to reading your review of Gravity Smiley

Right, actual on topic discussion would be "irrelevant", as opposed to pages upon pages of your pathetic lies Roll Eyes

As usual, you can't even tell which part is "wrong". It's not like I made any predictions, just some basic math. Looks like you believe that ionomy is living in a separate universe where the number of users and amounts spent by each user are not "relevant" to the revenue. But at least we have a new deadline. March 25 it is, the day of reckoning.
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I'm sorry, I didn't know someone on slack noticed the timer thing. If you can let me know who that was I'll edit my post and credit them with the discovery.
Edit: I guess I should have known better than trust anything coming out of your shilly piehole. I posted about the timer at 2:52 AM UTC, @kris on slack posted the screenshot at 3:34 AM UTC. Conspiracy solved, you're welcome.


You've just said you didn't notice anyone on slack post about the timer and then you say you posted before @kris. I didn't mention anybody...hmmmm CONTRADICTION in one paragraph.... impressive

The part after "Edit:" was added later. Since you didn't let me know who it was I checked myself. And found out that you lied. I'm baffled how you STILL don't know that lying to ME about ME is quite pointless. You better focus on lying about ionomy, there is at least a chance that you could find someone dumber than you to believe it.

Mobile gaming ARPU seems to be $40-ish. ION inflation ATM is ~29k ION or ~3k USD per day or 1+ million USD per year. Therefore ionomy needs 25k+ average users just to break even on inflation (25,000 * $40 = $1m). Actually it's probably closer to 75k users since only one third of in-game spending goes to the purchase pool.

https://www.statista.com/outlook/211/109/mobile-games/united-states#market-users

That doesn't account for the 17 million coins that already exist and don't seem to be backed by anything of value. There is probably quite a bit of pent-up dump pressure in there.  


Your wrong alright but no point countering as this discussion is irrelevant. First game is soon to launch so we will know in a month or so how wrong or right you are.  

Looking forward to reading your review of Gravity Smiley

Right, actual on topic discussion would be "irrelevant", as opposed to pages upon pages of your pathetic lies Roll Eyes

As usual, you can't even tell which part is "wrong". It's not like I made any predictions, just some basic math. Looks like you believe that ionomy is living in a separate universe where the number of users and amounts spent by each user are not "relevant" to the revenue. But at least we have a new deadline. March 25 it is, the day of reckoning.

Hi Suchmoon, I found your math quite interesting. You are not saying whether you think 75K users is a realistic number, although I can guess the answer ;-) I personnaly think these numbers are at least very realistic and even very underestimated looking at the whole business model. We are talking about much more than just one game. Some will be more successful than others but in theory you only need one. I have played the game by the way, it was tested by many users, so not only whales, and I liked it, and so did my family. Only 6 days and you can try it out yourself.
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Hi Suchmoon, I found your math quite interesting. You are not saying whether you think 75K users is a realistic number, although I can guess the answer ;-) I personnaly think these numbers are at least very realistic and even very underestimated looking at the whole business model. We are talking about much more than just one game. Some will be more successful than others but in theory you only need one. I have played the game by the way, it was tested by many users, so not only whales, and I liked it, and so did my family. Only 6 days and you can try it out yourself.

75k is just to break even on inflation at $0.10 per ION. If you expect e.g. $0.40 per ION then you would need 300k average users just to absorb the inflation, not including the coins that already exist and are probably itching to get dumped.

Also "average" is important here. The stats don't mean that any game can generate $40 per user. Some do much better, some do much worse. For example when King Digital Entertainment (of Candy Crush fame) filed for an IPO in 2014 their ARPU was ~$20, barely average for that time. Of course they had millions of users.

https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1580732/000119312514056089/d564433df1.htm

Seeing how ionomy struggles to develop, deliver, and communicate with just a few dozen users I really doubt they can scale to any level of sustainable revenue, even if the game is a hit. But we'll see on March 25 I guess.
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