Bitmain's Released Antminer S9, World's First 16nm Miner Ready to Order

[Biodom]

Never thought you need to spend this much amount of money to mine. Are people here really rich or what,spending this much dime for a machine. My three month salary for one machine carry on folks.

How do you survive? are you homeless?

From country #100 downward, average monthly salary is less than $633.
India- $452/mo, China $732, Russia $686. Things cost less in these three, I imagine.
You can survive even in US on this money (if you don't have to pay rent or with very low rent in some areas).
http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/stats/Cost-of-living/Average-monthly-disposable-salary/After-tax
Also, the last country has $25, but i don't think that they are necessarily starving. Everything just cost less to much less.

[philipma1957]

Never thought you need to spend this much amount of money to mine. Are people here really rich or what,spending this much dime for a machine. My three month salary for one machine   carry on folks.

Money is relative.  I live in NJ in a 375,000 usd home depending on what city in NJ that price can be a small home in really nice town or a medium home in a medium priced town .

Or a pretty big house in a poor town.

You can range in size from  1200 square ft .  To 3750 square foot.

You may even get a big lot for that price say four acres.

Or in some towns a small lot 4000 square ft.

[sidehack]

I'm living on less than one S9 worth of money in a given month, and it's only that much because I have an old credit card and student loans to pay down. Actual living expenses (rent, utilities, groceries) I could probably get by on about half an S9 per month, and that's right here in the US. Depending how and where you live, it's not even hard. I had a neighbor for a while with a wife and baby doing fine on a household income of under $300 per week.

The last miner I bought new was an S3, near the end of their run when prices were like $280. S9 prices would have to be about half where they are now for me to think about buying, and I've probably got cheaper power than most of y'all. And even then I probably wouldn't buy one because Bitmain hasn't done much in a really long time to demonstrate a desire to not actively screw people over.

[vortexz]

https://gyazo.com/8e37d262da3d55b6908e9a7497b7e416

one of my S9 is showing 1 X in chips.
Tried rebooting it still showing an X
Hopefully it won't start showing more and more Xes

[Xircom]

IS the shop down.
I have tried now for days to make a new order of 10 x S9, but at checkout it stops when getting to shipping destination ??
Anyone else having the same problem ?

[not.you]

IS the shop down.
I have tried now for days to make a new order of 10 x S9, but at checkout it stops when getting to shipping destination ??
Anyone else having the same problem ?

Did you try and get warranty repair on your failed S9 board?  Just curious.  Surprised to see you buying more.

https://gyazo.com/8e37d262da3d55b6908e9a7497b7e416

one of my S9 is showing 1 X in chips.
Tried rebooting it still showing an X
Hopefully it won't start showing more and more Xes

I have one board on one miner that occasionally shows x's at stock freq but I have it downclocked and it doesn't happen.  The board in question is clearly problematic, at stock it sometimes only hit about 60% of expected hashrate and never went any higher.  It would take me several reboots to get it to come up higher but even then it wouldn't hit the numbers of the other two boards, and it would pop up occasional x's as mentioned.  When it was doing that the x's would come and go although usually on the same 4 or 5 chips.  So yeah, the whole thing is downclocked and it doesn't happen.

[Xircom]

IS the shop down.
I have tried now for days to make a new order of 10 x S9, but at checkout it stops when getting to shipping destination ??
Anyone else having the same problem ?

Did you try and get warranty repair on your failed S9 board?  Just curious.  Surprised to see you buying more.

https://gyazo.com/8e37d262da3d55b6908e9a7497b7e416

one of my S9 is showing 1 X in chips.
Tried rebooting it still showing an X
Hopefully it won't start showing more and more Xes

I have one board on one miner that occasionally shows x's at stock freq but I have it downclocked and it doesn't happen.  The board in question is clearly problematic, at stock it sometimes only hit about 60% of expected hashrate and never went any higher.  It would take me several reboots to get it to come up higher but even then it wouldn't hit the numbers of the other two boards, and it would pop up occasional x's as mentioned.  When it was doing that the x's would come and go although usually on the same 4 or 5 chips.  So yeah, the whole thing is downclocked and it doesn't happen.

Yes, and now they agreed to get them even without discussing with them....and without opening a Ticket. I do not know though thats because of the volumes I buy, I really hope not, since everyone should have the same service level. Secondly, I need to buy more and Avalon is just too slow at the moment.
Still waiting though, but im affriad that I wil need to dish Avalon if they keep putting out miners who demands PI as controller, its a freaking mess to operate a farm with all these PI`s.

[d57heinz]

@numnutz!

Well to explain myself.  I run them in a barn. Outside temp wasn't 120. But inside temp of barn was. Ask Phil how hot it is where he runs his miners;)  Possibly higher.  Yes you are correct on the miners and the heat sink.  Can you tell me why bitmain is going backwards with reliability and forwards with efficiency.  Let's make the first ASIC with a great heat sink but we all know that it's not here to stay.  Then let's move to today. New ASIC with most efficient chip and the worst track record.  Kiddos as you put it so kindly must have been who is assembling these.  Cheap pcb cheap heat sinks. Fires burnt boards galore.  Warranty is next to the shit on the bottom of my shoe. And now as a big fuck you they release the antrouter r 4 lmao.   I'm waiting on Avalon to deliver and will continue to buy gpu.  Good day to you.  

EDIT   Lucky for me if you want to push this much further i still own s1 s2 s3 s4 c1's  would you  like me to run them in a closed env to see what the thermal breakdown is.. Think this might just make for a great youtube journey for me.  and some lessons for the community on how the old miner worked so much better!!!  and dont worry ill put enough to equal the same amount of watts.  again you basically explained what i needed to know .  when they burn up in datacenters then how do you expect them to be ran at home?  ill do some digging and see if i can find max temps.. Im really just over this.  

Btw I'm not going anywhere:)

BR


S3+ Specifications:

 

Hash Rate: 453 GH/s±5% with great OC potential
Power Consumption: 355 Watt at the wall
Power Efficiency: 0.78J/GH on wall
Power Supply: 12V DC
Size:  331 mm x 137 mm x 160 mm
Fans: Two 14038 fans mounted on both front and back ends
Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 35 °C
Complied with: FCC / CE
Network Connection: Ethernet

just to let you know heehhe.. look at line 7

S9 Specifications:

1. Hash Rate: 11.85TH/s ±5%

2. Power Consumption: 1172W + 12% (at the wall, with APW3 ,93% efficiency, 25C ambient temp)

3. Power Efficiency: 0.1J/GH + 12%(at the wall, with APW3 93% efficiency, 25°C ambient temp)

4. Rated Voltage: 11.60 ~13.00V

5. Chip quantity per unit: 189x BM1387

6. Dimensions: 350mm(L)*135mm(W)*158mm(H)

7. Cooling: 2x 12038 fan

8. Operating Temperature: 0 °C to 40 °C

9. Network Connection: Ethernet

10. Default Frequency: 550M

and one just has to assume that if you are running in those conditions and as long as the box is checked in the miner for it not to exceed 80c(i know its not stated in manual but 80c is max) then it should be safe to run up to 40c conditions.. And yea i took some risk. but it worked great for me.  .. i didnt quite understand your question of max temp that is why i put the op temps of s3  stating that it at least gave a range it is SAFELY ran in.  anyway.. i dont understand all things and ill be the first to admit it.. But your way of making me understand sure wont work in any classroom environment.  im reasonable but i also wont be fucked around either.

Also can you tell me why i can smash 3kw of psu into a box 1/3 size of s9 and it has no problems whatsoever cooling?  maybe bitmain needs to go back to the drawing board?

[sidehack]

It has no problem cooling because your 3KW of PSU are burning about 300W of heat in themselves (assuming ~90% efficiency) so the power density is a fair bit less. The heat-generating parts in a PSU are probably also either solid metal or a big beefy silicon rated for 150C max internal temperature, rather than high-speed data paths on the most ornately etched crystal in the world, making the hardware a bit less finicky overall.

But yeah, one of the S9 boards that failed within 2 days in my hosting I don't think ever saw over 90F ambient temps, and were probably between 75F and 85F for most of that time. It also started to hash but died out quickly when the frequency was turned below 300MHz. Kinda strange.

[Sierra8561]

IS the shop down.
I have tried now for days to make a new order of 10 x S9, but at checkout it stops when getting to shipping destination ??
Anyone else having the same problem ?

I haven't had any problem ordering. I ordered 12 last week with no problem.

[Xircom]

What browser did you use ? I tried Chrome and firefox with same probem ?

[Sierra8561]

What browser did you use ? I tried Chrome and firefox with same probem ?

Chrome on my mobile.

[SaShiRaJaVu]

Never thought you need to spend this much amount of money to mine. Are people here really rich or what,spending this much dime for a machine. My three month salary for one machine  carry on folks.

How do you survive? are you homeless?

what made you think that i am homeless,my parents are rich if you want to know,that does not mean i do own a house or i am earning enough to buy a house. I am just an up and coming guy who is trying to have an aspiring career and that is it. Started my career with 250$ a month and i am just moving up, i am from india and things are like this over here.

[tbonetony]

Bitcoin mining has long become a capital game....

[Sierra8561]

Has anyone tried flashing S9 firmware on a S7? I wonder if it would work? I've had to send quite a few parts to bitmain for warranty. I have three hash boards doing nothing.

[RichBC]

Has anyone tried flashing S9 firmware on a S7? I wonder if it would work? I've had to send quite a few parts to bitmain for warranty. I have three hash boards doing nothing.

I have tried and it will not load. I think there are some big differences in the hardare.


Rich

[Sierra8561]

Has anyone tried flashing S9 firmware on a S7? I wonder if it would work? I've had to send quite a few parts to bitmain for warranty. I have three hash boards doing nothing.

I have tried and it will not load. I think there are some big differences in the hardare.


Rich

Thank you. Thought it might be worth a try.

[numnutz2009]

Has anyone tried flashing S9 firmware on a S7? I wonder if it would work? I've had to send quite a few parts to bitmain for warranty. I have three hash boards doing nothing.

I have tried and it will not load. I think there are some big differences in the hardare.


Rich

i think it depends on the controller version. on the 1.8x version there is a beaglebone attached to the controller board but on 1.9x versions there is no beaglebone. are the ones your trying to flash 1.8x or 1.9x?

[RichBC]

Has anyone tried flashing S9 firmware on a S7? I wonder if it would work? I've had to send quite a few parts to bitmain for warranty. I have three hash boards doing nothing.

I have tried and it will not load. I think there are some big differences in the hardare.


Rich

i think it depends on the controller version. on the 1.8x version there is a beaglebone attached to the controller board but on 1.9x versions there is no beaglebone. are the ones your trying to flash 1.8x or 1.9x?

I have only tried the one with the Beaglebone.

Rich

[mountainminer333]

Hi All,
Got a question about HW for my S9. What does the "HW" mean? One of my miners was running unusually warm compared to the other miners in my warehouse. It normally doesn't run this warm, it just happens to be a hot day. The interface says the hashrate is something crazy ( 290,814.7 GH/S) and the HW is virtually nill compared to my other miners. Strangely enough, on F2 Pool the hashrate looks normal.

Here's a link to the screenshot.

http://www.mediafire.com/view/splg4wb1q6e96m8/s9-creen2.jpg

Can anyone offer some suggestions on what might be happening here. Much appreciated. Thanks,

MM