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June 12, 2011, 05:30:50 AM
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This is beyond ridiculous.  Can't the system take in to account length of account?  Obviously I don't have a lot of posts but I've been here and I'm not a troll. 

If there is a whitelist, I would like to be considered.  Thank you.
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June 12, 2011, 05:31:58 AM
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50 posts is fucking stupid...   i could see 20-30 or not being allow to start a topic for 50 but there is no point in coming here now.
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June 12, 2011, 05:32:56 AM
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Really guys, these drastic measures weren't made because of some random trolls.  I have been on this forum non-stop for the last 10 hours, and even at the peak of trolls, there were only 3-4 active threads with porrly reasoned arguments going on.

The reason for these drastic measures, silencing new accounts, is because of people like me who came here and spoke honest trueth, well reasoned logic, and mental discipline to examining not only the bitcoin market, but the nature of bitcoin itself.

And you're going to see a lot more of it, this was just a temporary measure so they can try to get people to calm down and stop selling off so many BTC.

that was my first thought. a way to censor newer users and propaganda control.
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June 12, 2011, 05:34:27 AM
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Added to that, you think too highly of yourself.  This is a forum about bitcoin, not bitcoin itself.  The new rules don't exist to prevent you from talking your book, even though that is still bad form.

Possibly, however no one seemed to be able to form anything even remotely resembling a rebut to my questions, ripostes, arguments, assertions, or assumptions.  A few tried.  A few failed.

I highly welcome and encourage you to peruse the posts in question and post your thought, if you can good Sir.
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June 12, 2011, 05:35:09 AM
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Due to spam?


Guess what you're going to get in the newbie section when people try to up their post count.



Heres a SANE idea : implement Captchas and Email verifications for new accounts.
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June 12, 2011, 05:35:47 AM
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I'd like to see how many trolls are mining at 1.7Ghash/sec

Yes!  I'm mining at .6Gh!  The last thing I've wanted to see is the price drop off, but it does seem inevitable given it's exponential rise the past month.  So long as long term buyers come in, things will steady out - for a time - but until bitcoin goes beyond the price of an ounce of gold, I think this is what we must accept this volatility as the norm. There are people who are manipulating btc markets for their own gain, just as they do for most every market. BTC is more susceptible as it's not grounded to many other commodities.

As for these restrictions being temporary - lol - that's what the control freaks in Washington said about the patriot act too.
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June 12, 2011, 05:36:29 AM
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I'm not a troll. 

Exactly what a troll would say . . .  Cheesy

I drink it up!
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June 12, 2011, 05:36:48 AM
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No, it really was necessary. The forum was being overrun by trolls.
Then moderate the trolls and spam. It's very important to offer a sounding board for noobs. Also, it seems contrary to the open source and decentralized nature of the project.I'm very disappointed in your choice.
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June 12, 2011, 05:37:02 AM
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I would like to be white listed.  The length of time that my account has existed and the quality of the few posts that I have made should make it clear that I am not and will not troll.

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June 12, 2011, 05:37:07 AM
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Dear Bitcoin community,


Yesterday, I got involved in this discussion:

http://forum.bitcoin.org/index.php?topic=14693.new;topicseen#new

Since then I have effectivly been labeled a troll (having 'only' 22 posts) and prohited any chance to respond to reply to xf2_org's last mail. This is appearently how the Bitcoin community wants to deal with valid critique.

I'm not going to risk this happening again by a forum that was set up by people who are possibly the same people that run this forum. If you think my critique is valid, I'm inviting you to join me on:

http://forum.newbitcoin.org/

I promise you that critique, valid or not, will never be censored.

I'm out of here!
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June 12, 2011, 05:37:07 AM
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Same as Zapeta here...

I rarely post, but have lurked for 4 or so months now, only recently registered.  In fact, in the past few days I felt I had enough background reading and experimentation done to finally start posting useful information/help/whatever to the various forums.  Go figure!

I can only hope this is a very temporary condition, as it will certainly remove folks like me from the community.  Definitely a very effective way to kill interest for many newcomers...

I have less than 1,000 posts on around a half dozen message boards throughout the Internet, all of which I've been a member since either the late 90's or early 2000's... I simply don't talk much!  But when I do, I like to pretend it's at least somewhat valuable to someone Wink

I refuse to make a bunch of useless spam posts in this forum, simply to increase my post count so I can participate.  Find a way to allow posting, without the need to generate useless spam perhaps?

-Phil
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June 12, 2011, 05:37:36 AM
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The other restrictions may be reduced or eliminated later, once things have calmed down.

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June 12, 2011, 05:37:44 AM
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Again, any mod worth his salt could have easily locked threads, banned accounts, whatever.


This is the first good thought you've had.  It goes against my instincts, but I guess your right, it is time to ban you for trolling.

Ah the mighty creighto. What an honorable jest. Yes m'lord, please, ban those with contrary yet sapient views; make your life as blissful as a darling frolic in the tulips.
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June 12, 2011, 05:38:05 AM
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Although upsetting, I agree with the restriction. However, once a troll ...always a troll. There's no stopping these guys.
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June 12, 2011, 05:38:16 AM
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im a newbe and i think its good. Thanks !!

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June 12, 2011, 05:38:18 AM
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Oh don't worry, I already got a messaging warning that I had posted from this IP within the last 300 seconds. I mean, really? 1 post per 5 minute time span allowance? Brilliant, really. lmfao. Seems like it's gone, but don't be surprised if they implement it permanently.

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June 12, 2011, 05:38:55 AM
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Start your own forum and client. I am, this place is obviously run by forum administrators that lack managing a community of any significant size.
I am considering this as well. I do run a couple message boards centered around other subjects and the Bitcoin thread there are very active. If you do start one, PM me the link, please, if that is allowed for noobs.
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June 12, 2011, 05:39:13 AM
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This is the first good thought you've had.  It goes against my instincts, but I guess your right, it is time to ban you for trolling.

Awesome, so now you're threatened with banning if you express an opinion a mod dislikes?
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June 12, 2011, 05:39:51 AM
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No, it really was necessary. The forum was being overrun by trolls.
Then moderate the trolls and spam. It's very important to offer a sounding board for noobs. Also, it seems contrary to the open source and decentralized nature of the project.I'm very disappointed in your choice.

It's really quite telling, isn't it?

*looks at pocket watch*

I think this makes post 39 for me, how about you, friend?

EDIT: looks like 37, actually. Smiley
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June 12, 2011, 05:40:26 AM
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Again, any mod worth his salt could have easily locked threads, banned accounts, whatever.


This is the first good thought you've had.  It goes against my instincts, but I guess your right, it is time to ban you for trolling.
Surely you are joking.
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