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June 12, 2011, 09:02:40 AM
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Will this 50 post limit be lifted?
Moreso wondering because I was hoping to make business, not have to socialize or spam around. Sure, there are PMs, but when there's a perfectly good thread posted by someone waiting for a reply...
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June 12, 2011, 09:03:36 AM
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if you aks really nicely, you might get on the white list Smiley

or else you can only post here until you reaches 50 post Tongue

it sucks? yes, but it necessarily.

white list? i dont like special treatment.

you have <200 posts, and you have been a member for almost 2 months. how can you expect someone to talk to newbies for 2 weeks? this is the generation of instant gratification.

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June 12, 2011, 09:04:14 AM
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I think the limit is just to high. Now we are supposed to write 50 postings in the newbies section? How could you rate the user's quality by these?

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June 12, 2011, 09:04:32 AM
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Speculators- those simply buying Bitcoin to sit on them and do currency exchange, require little support or arbitration. Bitcoin merchants and consumers, those who actually give Bitcoin tangible value do require support and arbitration which under the new rules they are unlikely to receive from experienced users- as those same users will have "Newbie" posts effectively filtered from their online experience. Newbies, for the most part cannot answer Newbie questions- and they are the only ones likely to read them under the current system. Even the moderators of the Newbie section, have on average just four months of experience with Bitcoin.

The Newbie system allows users to be whitelisted if they either "Post Useful Posts" OR "Know the Fundamentals" and that can be accomplished by reading "Beginners Guide".

However, in all honesty how many users are actually going to try and prove that they have a reasonable understanding of Bitcoin and that they are not out here to try and troll/spam the community. I'm only posting here because of my sheer annoyance at the fact I can't post (even though I haven't done anything to the community) in the bitcoins.lc thread where I've found an issue with "unverified funds" column.

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The "Newbie" forum just raised barriers to entry substantially for exactly the kind of non-technical, Average-Joe adopters we want to attract. Certainly I am seriously reevaluating my decision to accept Bitcoin at my facility now that I know my customers are unlikely to receive credible support in their move to the currency.

Average Joes still can read topics they aren't allowed to post in. If they have a question it can be usually answered by other Newbies and the Beginners Guide sticky. If it can't it's most likely either a good post or moderation/old timers can help if all else fails.

Once again, won't there be an influx of the same, repetitive posts here (e.g the ones on this "newbies" forum relating to the fact that we can only post in this part) and I don't want to start a completely new thread about something that's being discussed elsewhere in the forum which would achieve absolutely zilch.

Thanks.

I agree, in the end it won't do anything. But if anyone actually decided to read the Sticky Post. This is temporary, it was to stop the huge inflow of trolls the moderators weren't equipped to deal with.

Also if someone is new. It usually benefits them more to be able to navigate and read well thought out threads for solutions even without being able to post. Then to have a slurry of trolls come in.

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June 12, 2011, 09:04:54 AM
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Already done. You are "established".

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June 12, 2011, 09:05:27 AM
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Dude that is sick.  I'm so stealing that front pocket / back pocket bit lol.

You created this system because people were annoyed talking to all the new guys.
You forced all of the new guys to talk to each other for at least 50 posts before they can talk to anyone else.
You allow 1 post per ip per 60 seconds.

So now I have to deal with all the annoying troll-ass newbies for at LEAST an hour, before I can post to the "real" forums?

Thanks. You made your problem mine.

lol, yeah, this can't last. this community is full of too many clever individuals, this decision was a rash decision, eventually the regular posters that are volunteer moding will get sick of it and the actual mods will have to come up with an actual working system or the community will migrate to somewhere that thinks out solutions instead of filling their back pockets with the shit they found in their front pockets.
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June 12, 2011, 09:06:05 AM
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i think too that 50 post a little to much, better was a 20 posts!

i hope this will come in future Smiley in english 50 posts will be hard for some guys like me Smiley



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June 12, 2011, 09:06:45 AM
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just deal with it.

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June 12, 2011, 09:08:07 AM
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just deal with it.

thats communism's new slogan.
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June 12, 2011, 09:08:27 AM
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white list? i dont like special treatment.

But in this case, it's a lot better as you avoid having to post often pointless things as I'm doing right now such that I can actually post where I want to.

you have <200 posts, and you have been a member for almost 2 months. how can you expect someone to talk to newbies for 2 weeks? this is the generation of instant gratification.

Bro, I've been here since December and I have less than 200 posts!  Wink

p.s. i love denmark.

And that was completely pointless  Wink
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June 12, 2011, 09:09:05 AM
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just deal with it dude.

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June 12, 2011, 09:10:38 AM
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But in this case, it's a lot better as you avoid having to post often pointless things as I'm doing right now such that I can actually post where I want to.


right? maybe they should give details as to what quantifies an actual "post". or just shut registration off completely. thats what silk road did.

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"BitCoin: We just want your money, not your participation."
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June 12, 2011, 09:11:08 AM
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just deal with it.

thats communism's new slogan.

indeed.

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June 12, 2011, 09:11:27 AM
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I agree, in the end it won't do anything. But if anyone actually decided to read the Sticky Post. This is temporary, it was to stop the huge inflow of trolls the moderators weren't equipped to deal with.

Also if someone is new. It usually benefits them more to be able to navigate and read well thought out threads for solutions even without being able to post. Then to have a slurry of trolls come in.

Still, it doesn't solve the fact I wish to post now about an issue that's probably obsolete later.
Maybe I'm an exception to this rule, but rather than post I lurk, so that's probably why I'm frustrated now that I want to post. And FYI I'm not new (at least that's what I consider), I've been here since December  Wink
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June 12, 2011, 09:12:49 AM
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if you aks really nicely, you might get on the white list Smiley

or else you can only post here until you reaches 50 post Tongue

it sucks? yes, but it necessarily.

white list? i dont like special treatment.

you have <200 posts, and you have been a member for almost 2 months. how can you expect someone to talk to newbies for 2 weeks? this is the generation of instant gratification.

p.s. i love denmark.


--- there are much better ways of weeding out trolls. its rather obvious this system was put in hastily. to the mods: a stitch in time saves nine. just like your mommies used to say. put some effort into it, because you've just upset a lot of new guys. or maybe you dont want to grow? who knows.
i cant whitelist anyone, only mods can i think.

btw. love denamrk too! live there Smiley

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June 12, 2011, 09:12:56 AM
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I used to lurk too but I decided it was in my best interest to participate. Nothing prevents you from lurking, you still read posts.

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June 12, 2011, 09:13:16 AM
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Thank you so much!
Finally I can lurk in the mining forum without reading a new "IS THIS RIG ANY GOOD?Huh?" post every five minutes.  Roll Eyes
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June 12, 2011, 09:14:46 AM
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Edit by Maged:
The requirement is no longer 50 posts:

Thanks to some code provided by Disposition, there is now a mix of post count and "time online" requirements. You must have spent 8 hours online and posted 5 posts. This should be easier to do.

Actually TBH, I think that's an even worse as most people who join this forums and are reasonably active don't take 8 hours to reach 50 posts. Now, this promotes people to just leave it open as a tab rather than post (which could give an indication to moderator's that someone is a troll/spammer) which doesn't seem to me, to be that great.
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June 12, 2011, 09:17:13 AM
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I used to lurk too but I decided it was in my best interest to participate. Nothing prevents you from lurking, you still read posts.

True, however this rule prevents me from posting in a time where I actually want/need to, which when you're asking for help, is a lot better than just lurking and hoping an answer magically poof's above you head (or on these foums  Wink ).
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June 12, 2011, 09:20:41 AM
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I used to lurk too but I decided it was in my best interest to participate. Nothing prevents you from lurking, you still read posts.

True, however this rule prevents me from posting in a time where I actually want/need to, which when you're asking for help, is a lot better than just lurking and hoping an answer magically poof's above you head (or on these foums  Wink ).

Hey I guess it's just a pay for what you get type of scenario. Newbie help is pretty much free since guides exist and in the unlikely situation where a newbie has a question that hasn't been unanswered a mod or other people probably are asking and are willing to answer that question. That's the idea of bringing good topics into the main forums.

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