Do you believe in god?

[BADecker]

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Further from the site:

This is an incredible chart.  The New Testament has 5,600 copies…In Greek.  The “in Greek” is significant because the original text was written in Greek (common language of the day).  If we add copies from various languages such as Latin the total number of copies would go as high as 24,000.  That is 24,000 copies of the original documents, the original writings of the Apostles.  No other document in antiquity can claim such a volume.  Other famous writers of antiquity fail this test. This is not to say that the copies of these other documents are inadequate or that the copies are wrong.  It is simply to say that you have much less quantity with which to verify its contents and, therefore, much less confidence in those copies.

Consider Plato.  Plato is well known for his writing “The Republic”.  There are only 7 copies of the original.  How confident can one be that the translation we read of “The Republic” is the one that Plato wrote?  Confidence level has to be low because you only have 7 copies to compare against one another.  However, historically speaking, “The Republic” has been accepted as an accurate recording of Plato’s words.

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Haha, really? Now this is complete BS BADdecker. I only need 1 copy of the original to provide more than adequate proof when the contents thereof is verified against the ONE and ONLY original, which does not exist at all.

I saw that. You said, "Haha, really?!" So, you are joking around. After all, when the copies are almost exactly the same over hundreds or thousands of years, and when they are hand copied hundreds or thousands of times while remaining almost the same, why do you need the original? You would believe the original less than any of the copies, anyway. How do I know? Because you brush off the miracle even though you know that it is miraculous.

In addition, nobody knows that the originals of the books that make up the Bible do not exist.

Just admit it GODecker, my religion is older than yours, it was first, it has more written manuscripts before yours and people believed in it before your garden of eden was created. I win.

Hinduism is the true religion. Unlike your religion of hate and fear, Hinduism prescribes the eternal duties, such as honesty, refraining from injuring living beings (ahimsa), patience, forbearance, self-restraint, and compassion, among others. Varnashrama Dharma teaches an ideal system of a democratic, multicultural, global society with the values of equality and equal opportunities for all, the right to education, liberty, the dignity of the individual and participation in governance without fear.

Christianity crushes intelligence because it is a miserable system of fearmongering where your god rules through power, pain of death and eternal torture. Mine is a system of self education and awakening that enlightens the intellect, grows the spirit and celebrates sexuality, freedom and liberation from evil through self improvement. I can't understand why anyone, other than the most ignorant people, would want to believe in that miserable excuse of a religion called Christianity.

1 John 4:18:

There is no fear in love. But perfect love drives out fear, because fear has to do with punishment. The one who fears is not made perfect in love.

So, if you have Jesus salvation, there is no fear in the sense of being afraid.

You can see the Biblical age of the earth here http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm.

Are the biblical years different from real years.  You guys seem to have methaphores for everything.  6 days were not really 6 days.  Maybe one biblical year is really 750,000 years.

I suggest you travel to Sweden and examine the 9,500 old LIVING tree.

http://mentalfloss.com/article/29879/6-oldest-trees-world

http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/legacy/blogs/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/old-swedish-tree.jpg

Ah, let's see. Is the guy around who planted that tree 9,500 years ago? Well, are some of his family still around? How about some of his buddies? Did he leave a written record that has been handed down, parents to children, over thousands of years like the Bible record was? Well, maybe God came and told somebody that it was that old, right? Or were you there yourself back then?

Science guesswork isn't cutting it here.

You have a living tree that you can drill and count the tree rings and you are asking for a guy who planted it?

And you are not asking for people who wrote the Bible? 40+ authors over the course of 2500+ years.

It is surprising that you rather believe in a collection of Egyptian (Osiris), Jewish and Sumerian mythologies, but refuse to accept a physical evidence.

Just go to Sweden, there is probably museum there where you can sit down and count the rings yourself.  Just get there early to give you enough time.

Just apply for a passport, don't be afraid to travel outside of your county or village.

The question doesn't have anything to do with counting tree rings. It has to do with interpreting them.

Since nobody has been around for the last several thousand years, nobody knows if several thousand years ago tree rings didn't come about multiple times a year.

You have heard of evolution, right? You want to believe evolution is possible, yet you think that nothing ever changes. You are kinda weird that way.

It's like carbon dating. If there wasn't any C-14 before 5,000 years ago, all our carbon dating considered to be before that time is false.

Collections of Egyptian, Jewish, and Sumerian mythologies are on a scale so far beneath Bible fact, that there isn't even a glimmer of comparison. Study what the Bible is all about, and you will see that it is a marvelous book of general history, and a book that can't exist because of how it came together and what it says and how it has been passed down through the ages.

You are way off base in your thinking.

[BADecker]

Are the biblical years different from real years.  You guys seem to have methaphores for everything.  6 days were not really 6 days.  Maybe one biblical year is really 750,000 years.

4.54 × 10⁹ years / 6 days = 7.56 × 10⁸
7.56 × 10⁸ / 6 = 1.261 × 10⁸

Make one biblical day equal 1.261 × 10⁸ our years then it works.

I am not sure, never took the Bible Algebra course. :-)  I divided 4.5B (real Earth age) by the biblical age:

4.54B=4,540,000,000 / 6000 = 760,000 years/biblical year

assuming 1 biblical year had 365 days:

760000/365 ~= 2082 years/biblical day

So God created universe in 2082*6=12,492 years LOL

You are forgetting one major point in all this. We don't KNOW how the universe came into being. We don't see one thing that can create any of this substance, and especially life. Your whole idea is guesswork. Just because a bunch of scientists and other people get a consensus going, wherein they state that their math and timing is accurate, doesn't make it accurate. It only makes it into widespread science fiction.

[BADecker]

Are the biblical years different from real years.  You guys seem to have methaphores for everything.  6 days were not really 6 days.  Maybe one biblical year is really 750,000 years.

4.54 × 10⁹ years / 6 days = 7.56 × 10⁸
7.56 × 10⁸ / 6 = 1.261 × 10⁸

Make one biblical day equal 1.261 × 10⁸ our years then it works.

I am not sure, never took the Bible Algebra course. :-)  I divided 4.5B (real Earth age) by the biblical age:

4.54B=4,540,000,000 / 6000 = 760,000 years/biblical year

assuming 1 biblical year had 365 days:

760000/365 ~= 2082 years/biblical day

So God created universe in 2082*6=12,492 years LOL

You are forgetting one major point in all this. We don't KNOW how the universe came into being. We don't see one thing that can create any of this substance, and especially life. Your whole idea is guesswork. Just because a bunch of scientists and other people get a consensus going, wherein they state that their math and timing is accurate, doesn't make it accurate. It only makes it into widespread science fiction.

The 'calculations' were provided as a joke....to show biblical years and days...

BTW, we have a pretty good idea how our universe came about.  A very sound Math was recently developed that suggests the universes are being created as we speak...  
possibly an unlimited number of them, with about 10^520 of stable universes.  We are in one of the lucky stable ones...

iPhone at the time of Jesus was science fiction, magic really.

Somebody invented some math that shows how God is creating more universes? You have to be kidding. If it doesn't include God, there is no way to tell what is happening.

For example. If somebody invents a very sound form of math for counting the logs on the street outside of his house, it doesn't matter, when there are no logs outside his house.

Until God is in the creation equation, the math is not applicable to anything. It's simply science fiction like all the science theories.

[xvids]

of course I do believe in god,
even if I am not a church person

[(altair)]

I do believe in ghost,demons and stuff like that so the answer is yes,

I do believe in God even if I am not a religious person.

[BADecker]

I do believe in ghost,demons and stuff like that so the answer is yes,

I do believe in God even if I am not a religious person.

Atheists do believe in religion, even though they are not godly people.   

[cramcram21]

Even if i don't usually pray or talk to God as what they say praying is,
I still do believe in God and I still pray and remember him even if I don't go to church.

[BADecker]

Are the biblical years different from real years.  You guys seem to have methaphores for everything.  6 days were not really 6 days.  Maybe one biblical year is really 750,000 years.

4.54 × 10⁹ years / 6 days = 7.56 × 10⁸
7.56 × 10⁸ / 6 = 1.261 × 10⁸

Make one biblical day equal 1.261 × 10⁸ our years then it works.

I am not sure, never took the Bible Algebra course. :-)  I divided 4.5B (real Earth age) by the biblical age:

4.54B=4,540,000,000 / 6000 = 760,000 years/biblical year

assuming 1 biblical year had 365 days:

760000/365 ~= 2082 years/biblical day

So God created universe in 2082*6=12,492 years LOL

You are forgetting one major point in all this. We don't KNOW how the universe came into being. We don't see one thing that can create any of this substance, and especially life. Your whole idea is guesswork. Just because a bunch of scientists and other people get a consensus going, wherein they state that their math and timing is accurate, doesn't make it accurate. It only makes it into widespread science fiction.

The 'calculations' were provided as a joke....to show biblical years and days...

BTW, we have a pretty good idea how our universe came about.  A very sound Math was recently developed that suggests the universes are being created as we speak...  
possibly an unlimited number of them, with about 10^520 of stable universes.  We are in one of the lucky stable ones...

iPhone at the time of Jesus was science fiction, magic really.

Somebody invented some math that shows how God is creating more universes? You have to be kidding. If it doesn't include God, there is no way to tell what is happening.

For example. If somebody invents a very sound form of math for counting the logs on the street outside of his house, it doesn't matter, when there are no logs outside his house.

Until God is in the creation equation, the math is not applicable to anything. It's simply science fiction like all the science theories.

I am not kidding.  It is not a joke.  This theory actually makes sense.

Look up Andrei Linde, professor of Physics at Stanford University.

Here is one of his presentations:
http://www.ftpi.umn.edu/misel/2014/Inflationary%20Multiverse%20Minnesota%20Linde.pdf

Listen to these four guys discussing the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO4uzgiRHkE

Why would God in the equation help you?  I think it would complicate things. 

If their math includes and works with all-encompassing cause and effect...
if it includes inescapable entropy...
if it includes complexity that is far beyond anything that people are capable of envisioning...
then they have God.

If their math doesn't take these things into account, then it is irrelevant, and doesn't apply to reality. Why? Because these 3 things are some of the foundational laws upon which the whole universe is based. We see nothing else.

We see no way to kick-start life into operation, even if the atoms and molecules of life were somehow forced into the "strategic" positions necessary for life. It simply doesn't exist that we are aware of.

Besides the probability math that shows that the atoms and molecules of life could never, randomly, move into the strategic positions necessary for life, any approach would be destroyed by surrounding nature even as it was happening. Life is impossible... except that it exists.

If the math you are talking about doesn't take these things into account in detail, then it is incomplete, irrelevant, and a waste of time.

[BADecker]

Are the biblical years different from real years.  You guys seem to have methaphores for everything.  6 days were not really 6 days.  Maybe one biblical year is really 750,000 years.

4.54 × 10⁹ years / 6 days = 7.56 × 10⁸
7.56 × 10⁸ / 6 = 1.261 × 10⁸

Make one biblical day equal 1.261 × 10⁸ our years then it works.

I am not sure, never took the Bible Algebra course. :-)  I divided 4.5B (real Earth age) by the biblical age:

4.54B=4,540,000,000 / 6000 = 760,000 years/biblical year

assuming 1 biblical year had 365 days:

760000/365 ~= 2082 years/biblical day

So God created universe in 2082*6=12,492 years LOL

You are forgetting one major point in all this. We don't KNOW how the universe came into being. We don't see one thing that can create any of this substance, and especially life. Your whole idea is guesswork. Just because a bunch of scientists and other people get a consensus going, wherein they state that their math and timing is accurate, doesn't make it accurate. It only makes it into widespread science fiction.

The 'calculations' were provided as a joke....to show biblical years and days...

BTW, we have a pretty good idea how our universe came about.  A very sound Math was recently developed that suggests the universes are being created as we speak...  
possibly an unlimited number of them, with about 10^520 of stable universes.  We are in one of the lucky stable ones...

iPhone at the time of Jesus was science fiction, magic really.

Somebody invented some math that shows how God is creating more universes? You have to be kidding. If it doesn't include God, there is no way to tell what is happening.

For example. If somebody invents a very sound form of math for counting the logs on the street outside of his house, it doesn't matter, when there are no logs outside his house.

Until God is in the creation equation, the math is not applicable to anything. It's simply science fiction like all the science theories.

I am not kidding.  It is not a joke.  This theory actually makes sense.

Look up Andrei Linde, professor of Physics at Stanford University.

Here is one of his presentations:
http://www.ftpi.umn.edu/misel/2014/Inflationary%20Multiverse%20Minnesota%20Linde.pdf

Listen to these four guys discussing the subject:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OO4uzgiRHkE

Why would God in the equation help you?  I think it would complicate things. 

If their math includes and works with all-encompassing cause and effect...
if it includes inescapable entropy...
if it includes complexity that is far beyond anything that people are capable of envisioning...
then they have God.

If their math doesn't take these things into account, then it is irrelevant, and doesn't apply to reality. Why? Because these 3 things are some of the foundational laws upon which the whole universe is based. We see nothing else.

We see no way to kick-start life into operation, even if the atoms and molecules of life were somehow forced into the "strategic" positions necessary for life. It simply doesn't exist that we are aware of.

Besides the probability math that shows that the atoms and molecules of life could never, randomly, move into the strategic positions necessary for life, any approach would be destroyed by surrounding nature even as it was happening. Life is impossible... except that it exists.

If the math you are talking about doesn't take these things into account in detail, then it is incomplete, irrelevant, and a waste of time.

I think your religion is a waste of time.  Here is how your Christian ideology was born:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6CMCd7iNl4

Everything in life is a waste of time. Why? We lose it all at death.

True Christianity is NOT a waste of time. Why not? It saves the soul from death. God will rebuild a new body for the soul, and a new universe without waste for the body.

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I think that i am the god.
I am a narcissist?

[CoinCube]

Differences Between The Women's March And The March For Life
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-01-29/im-woman-who-went-womens-march-and-march-life-differences-were-stunning

A week after the Inauguration of Donald Trump, politically active women across America could choose to make themselves heard at two major rallies revolving around women's issues. They could attend a pro-choice, feminist march known as the Women's March or they could wait one week and attend the 44th annual pro-life, March for Life.

The marches had their similarities. Both marches were held in D.C. Both marches were heavily attended by women. And both marches attracted people from all over the country to participate. But each march was not made equal.

Being physically at the marches, it is easy to recognize differences between the two. In fact, some of the differences were downright stunning. Take a look for yourself, perhaps you will agree.

March for Life









The Women's March

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^ In the second pic of the "woman's march" group I notice a little girl who carries a sign with a sunny smiley face, four purple hearts and the words beneath "Love the world!"  Out of all the pics shown, this particular image stood out the most to me. The little girl doesn't seem overly caught up with pro-life or pro-woman, but rather with pro-world. Interesting. I think the child is [a] God.

[iluvbitcoins]

I gave you the reasoning. Bible history shows that this may easily have been so.

You gave me shit, Israelities were not bloody blonde
Hell, they're not blonde today when they have white genes

Of course, you lived back then. Or you have seen some snapshots of people from back then.

Haven't you figured out that change is occurring all over the place, around the world? If you believed in evolution, you would realize this.

Ohh, but you did live back then and you can tell me?  
I choose to believe relevant research instead of a random religious fanatic

And also common sense
Just because your little bigot mind doesn't want to believe Jesus wasn't ginger/blonde won't make him that way  

[BADecker]

I gave you the reasoning. Bible history shows that this may easily have been so.

You gave me shit, Israelities were not bloody blonde
Hell, they're not blonde today when they have white genes

Of course, you lived back then. Or you have seen some snapshots of people from back then.

Haven't you figured out that change is occurring all over the place, around the world? If you believed in evolution, you would realize this.

Ohh, but you did live back then and you can tell me?  
I choose to believe relevant research instead of a random religious fanatic

And also common sense
Just because your little bigot mind doesn't want to believe Jesus wasn't ginger/blonde won't make him that way  

The Bible is history.

In the O.T., the greatest king of ancient Israel, King David, is described as ruddy and handsome in appearance. Ruddy refers to reddish cheeks, something that is apparent regarding fair skinned people who are usually redheads, have sandy colored hair, or are blondes.

I didn't have to live back then. Bible history explains it for all of us.

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Yes, I do believe that there is a God. We may not si Him but he is always in our presence, our faith will help us discover more things about Him. We cannot exist out of nothing, only a Supreme Being is capable of creating us and that is God.

[BADecker]

Yes, I do believe that there is a God. We may not si Him but he is always in our presence, our faith will help us discover more things about Him. We cannot exist out of nothing, only a Supreme Being is capable of creating us and that is God.

Can you ask your Supreme Being to post here?  

If he is not too busy creating crippled babies of course.  We don't want him to stop doing the Godly things he has been doing...LOL

God posted a whole lot of stuff in the Bible. Since you don't believe it, why should He waste His time posting something else, here, just for you, when you aren't going to believe it anyway?

[isa154]

Do you believe in god? If you do, why do you believe? (give a few reasons)

For your own ... Do you believe in God? ... 

[BADecker]

Yes, I do believe that there is a God. We may not si Him but he is always in our presence, our faith will help us discover more things about Him. We cannot exist out of nothing, only a Supreme Being is capable of creating us and that is God.

Can you ask your Supreme Being to post here?  

If he is not too busy creating crippled babies of course.  We don't want him to stop doing the Godly things he has been doing...LOL

God posted a whole lot of stuff in the Bible. Since you don't believe it, why should He waste His time posting something else, here, just for you, when you aren't going to believe it anyway?

Stop making excuses for your imaginary friend.

Be glad that God hides Himself from you. He does it to give you a chance to live long enough to come to believe in Him. If you don't do it soon, He will reveal Himself to you... and you won't like it. Why won't you like it? It will be in the judgment after your death, and you will wish you had believed the evidence and proof of His existence, because you won't have a chance to change your mind, then.

[BADecker]

Yes, I do believe that there is a God. We may not si Him but he is always in our presence, our faith will help us discover more things about Him. We cannot exist out of nothing, only a Supreme Being is capable of creating us and that is God.

Can you ask your Supreme Being to post here?  

If he is not too busy creating crippled babies of course.  We don't want him to stop doing the Godly things he has been doing...LOL

God posted a whole lot of stuff in the Bible. Since you don't believe it, why should He waste His time posting something else, here, just for you, when you aren't going to believe it anyway?

Stop making excuses for your imaginary friend.

Be glad that God hides Himself from you. He does it to give you a chance to live long enough to come to believe in Him. If you don't do it soon, He will reveal Himself to you... and you won't like it. Why won't you like it? It will be in the judgment after your death, and you will wish you had believed the evidence and proof of His existence, because you won't have a chance to change your mind, then.

LOL.  Is he 3?  Playing peekaboo...?

You know, scientists estimated that it takes about 2 years to de-program someone who believes in Astrology.  Your case might take decades, or maybe you are a lost cause.

So believe whatever you want.  Just don't hurt anyone.

You poor baby. You haven't been able to more than begin to rebut the proof that God exists. So, you do the only thing you can. You simply spout a bunch of blather.

However, even though God doesn't give you any credit for this, I kinda do. The more you talk without rebutting the proof that God exists, the more you strengthen the proof in the minds of the readers. So, thanks for the help.

[Perle]

Yes, I do believe that there is a God. We may not si Him but he is always in our presence, our faith will help us discover more things about Him. We cannot exist out of nothing, only a Supreme Being is capable of creating us and that is God.

Can you ask your Supreme Being to post here?  

If he is not too busy creating crippled babies of course.  We don't want him to stop doing the Godly things he has been doing...LOL

God posted a whole lot of stuff in the Bible. Since you don't believe it, why should He waste His time posting something else, here, just for you, when you aren't going to believe it anyway?

Stop making excuses for your imaginary friend.

Be glad that God hides Himself from you. He does it to give you a chance to live long enough to come to believe in Him. If you don't do it soon, He will reveal Himself to you... and you won't like it. Why won't you like it? It will be in the judgment after your death, and you will wish you had believed the evidence and proof of His existence, because you won't have a chance to change your mind, then.

LOL.  Is he 3?  Playing peekaboo...?

You know, scientists estimated that it takes about 2 years to de-program someone who believes in Astrology.  Your case might take decades, or maybe you are a lost cause.

So believe whatever you want.  Just don't hurt anyone.

You poor baby. You haven't been able to more than begin to rebut the proof that God exists. So, you do the only thing you can. You simply spout a bunch of blather.

However, even though God doesn't give you any credit for this, I kinda do. The more you talk without rebutting the proof that God exists, the more you strengthen the proof in the minds of the readers. So, thanks for the help.

I don't think so. The more you raise the topic of evidence for God's existence, the more people will think about the fact that there is no evidence. Accordingly, the less will be the supporters of different religions.