[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[nowclever]

ICONOMI team, please excuse me again. But you didn't understand me.
I am not crying. I have not questions about my work.
I do not look at someone else's pocket.
I don't care how many earned russian translator SKYRIK. I agree - he really made a great job and he is nice guy. And I respect him.
I have ONLY ONE QUESTION:
Why you so seriously fighting with twitter/FB spam, but, on the other hand, ignored forum and so easy calculated all posts x5 stakes and paying for spam? About 70% of posts are flood about nothing.

Look please, I have proof by some examples:

1. One user says, September 14:
RUS original: Caмoe вpeмя пpocить paзpaбoтчикoв пpoвepить нa cпaм pyccкyю вeткy Iconomi нa фopyмe. Tyт 60 cтpaниц - cплoшнoй cпaм, cpaч и oбcyждeниe чyжиx мaмoк. P.S. Skyrik, нe пpинимaй близкo к cepдцy, ты вклaдывaeшьcя нa 100%
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587829.msg16250790#msg16250790
ENG transl.: It's time to ask the developers to check for spam Russian thread of Iconomi. 60 pages - a continuous spam, invective and discussion another's mammy. P.S. Skyrik, do not take it to heart, you put in 100%

And even SKYRIK himself confirms flooding in his thread, answers to above user:
RUS original: Пocлeднии 5-7 cтpaниц дa. Bce ocтaльнoe oтвeты нa вoпpocы...
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587829.msg16250815#msg16250815
ENG transl.: The last 5-7 pages yes. Another the answers ...

2. Another:
RUS original: зa пoл дня нaфлyдили 6 cтpaниц в пoиcкax peцeптoв и бoтoв
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587829.msg16250021#msg16250021
ENG transl.: For a half of day have flooded 6 pages in searching of recipes and bots

3. Some else interesting post:
RUS original: нy чтo нapoд cдeлaeм дoбpoe дeлo , кaчнeм вeткy дo 100 cтpaниц дo oкoнчaния иco . Дoгoним aнглoвeткy. Cдeлaeм чeлoвeкa бoгaтым
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587829.msg16250408#msg16250408
ENG transl.: Well, guys, do a good deed, swing the branch up to 100 pages before the end of the ICO. Catch english thread. Let us make a person rich.

4. RUS original: Я взял и вce пpopeтвитил нa вcякий cлyчaй
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587829.msg16248967#msg16248967
ENG transl.: I took and retweeted all, just in case

And more and more and more proof you can find ...

For example, pages from 50 to 60+ flooding about twitter button and FB comments, almost without SKYRIK participation.

You may not like it, but it's true.
It's not seriously and not fair! Sorry

Your investigation seems has a valid argument not to be ignored. I vouch that all bounty distribution should be fair as much as possible. Counting spammy post for the benefit of someone is not a good idea.   

that russian guy does not deserve so much, because that view times and post times are fake, that thread is full of spam, and useless posts, i think the team must know russian, they should find the things.

[barnes13]

asking about translation and forum moderation bounty, in iconomi blog say 400,000 ICN for that bounty but i see in google spreadsheet say 600,000 ICN giving for translation and forum moderation, what the right number for translation and forum moderation bounty?

[reginalkri]

Also what does ownership of a token actually get you I understand its ownership in the platform itself however what is the value of these tokens and what are the dividend payouts based on, are there fees related to the funds that shareholders will gather or something along those lines?  I'm trying to read the whitepaper but I can't find this info so far.

Let's assume in the first year iconomi.performance invests 7000 BTC into icos, with an average return of 4x.  That's 21000 BTC profit.  ~20% of this profit will be sent to ICN token holders as dividends.  21000 BTC × 0.20 = 4200 BTC dividends

Let's assume the market buys ICN tokens up until the dividends equal 5% APR.  4200 BTC ÷ 0.05 = 84000 BTC market cap

^^^ That's just talking about the iconomi.performance fund.  Add in the dividends from the ~2% management fee on the iconomi.index fund, dividends from the fund management platform, dividends from any other funds iconomi may create, speculation, and the fact that the market loves to put money behind innovative ideas with trustworthy/hardworking teams, and this will rise up above Ripple market cap level (400k BTC).

I think the only reason the price is so cheap on liqui right now, is no one is trusting to send their BTC there to buy.

So under that scenario, if I have $1,000 worth of ICN, how much would I receive in dividends. And would that amount change if the market cap was bigger? In other words is what I get in dividends will always be the same percentage to the number of coins I have?

Under that scenario, 4200 BTC ÷ 100,000,000 ICN = 0.000042 BTC in dividends earned per ICN token held (and distributed as ETH).  Keep in mind that's not accounting for dividends also earned through the index fund and OFM platform as MoveCrypto has said.

Ok, so it's all independent of the market cap. I'm still learning about this. I'll learn everything little by little.

[Jaroslav2007x]

When you say openly that I am not a bot, and you spat on it it says a lot about you and your Projects I vreil in the project but when I do not even listen to do not want to, I ponel the feedback after the bubble not wait until ... The goal was to get rid of bots, I do not bot ... Good luck ...

[dbzenhosting]

Where are the tokens going to be traded? I missed out on ico but wanna get in on this,..

[MoveCrypto]

Also what does ownership of a token actually get you I understand its ownership in the platform itself however what is the value of these tokens and what are the dividend payouts based on, are there fees related to the funds that shareholders will gather or something along those lines?  I'm trying to read the whitepaper but I can't find this info so far.

Let's assume in the first year iconomi.performance invests 7000 BTC into icos, with an average return of 4x.  That's 21000 BTC profit.  ~20% of this profit will be sent to ICN token holders as dividends.  21000 BTC × 0.20 = 4200 BTC dividends

Let's assume the market buys ICN tokens up until the dividends equal 5% APR.  4200 BTC ÷ 0.05 = 84000 BTC market cap

^^^ That's just talking about the iconomi.performance fund.  Add in the dividends from the ~2% management fee on the iconomi.index fund, dividends from the fund management platform, dividends from any other funds iconomi may create, speculation, and the fact that the market loves to put money behind innovative ideas with trustworthy/hardworking teams, and this will rise up above Ripple market cap level (400k BTC).

I think the only reason the price is so cheap on liqui right now, is no one is trusting to send their BTC there to buy.

So under that scenario, if I have $1,000 worth of ICN, how much would I receive in dividends. And would that amount change if the market cap was bigger? In other words is what I get in dividends will always be the same percentage to the number of coins I have?

Under that scenario, 4200 BTC ÷ 100,000,000 ICN = 0.000042 BTC in dividends earned per ICN token held (and distributed as ETH).  Keep in mind that's not accounting for dividends also earned through the index fund and OFM platform as MoveCrypto has said.

Ok, so it's all independent of the market cap. I'm still learning about this. I'll learn everything little by little.

Yes, there may not be as much of a correlation between dividends and market cap as my example.  None of the high market cap cryptos are paying dividends at all, yet they still have a high market cap.

Even a 100k+ BTC market cap crypto like STEEM actually has reverse dividends.  Where if you buy the token, you are sending dividends to bloggers.

So dividends may just be the catalyst that adds extra boost to the launch here.  Especially when a lot of people are re-investing the dividends back into ICN.

[liuka]

Where are the tokens going to be traded? I missed out on ico but wanna get in on this,..

tomorrow will be distribution and trading will be available in the date 11th of october
Keep patience.

[OrangeP]

Iconomi: "Your ICONOMI account is suspended".
Here is why: .

They also do not answer to my requests.


Are you able to access your coins yet? Is there a scam going on?

[MrPresident]

Where are the tokens going to be traded? I missed out on ico but wanna get in on this,..

... any token that could answer that before launch probably isn't worth buying.
NDA's are common in this game of thrones.
I expect polo and BTRX

[5thangel]

Iconomi: "Your ICONOMI account is suspended".
Here is why: .

They also do not answer to my requests.


Are you able to access your coins yet? Is there a scam going on?

no scam everything is fine

[Edward50]

Iconomi: "Your ICONOMI account is suspended".
Here is why: .

They also do not answer to my requests.


Are you able to access your coins yet? Is there a scam going on?

no scam everything is fine

Why are there people unable to get their coins then?

[bones]

If profits from that fund were given away as dividends,  how would it also extend your runway?
You can only spend it once.

Because they own 15 million tokens still and will also be collecting dividends

I highly doubt they would use personal profits.  Cmon now.

[5thangel]

Iconomi: "Your ICONOMI account is suspended".
Here is why: .

They also do not answer to my requests.


Are you able to access your coins yet? Is there a scam going on?

no scam everything is fine

Why are there people unable to get their coins then?

because the account is suspended....and its explained why is suspended - " Here is why:" ....need a full text to see the reason

[Teraboy]

Iconomi: "Your ICONOMI account is suspended".
Here is why: .

They also do not answer to my requests.


Are you able to access your coins yet? Is there a scam going on?

no scam everything is fine

Why are there people unable to get their coins then?

May these just an account is used for making a spam and iconomi is ban him, everything is running for smoothly. so there is no a problem in here. if you can giving an advice for the op for mentioning about the detailed of their account including the social account is sync with his iconomi account and we can see the purpose of iconomi are banning him.

[Jerry S]

so the account that is suspected as spam or abuse or else will be frozen?

[electronicash]

thay already announced they'd distribute the bounty on 7th.

Iconomi: "Your ICONOMI account is suspended".
Here is why: .

They also do not answer to my requests.


Are you able to access your coins yet? Is there a scam going on?

Any possible reason like what you did before this suspension happen?
Maybe you are caught cheating on bounties like having different twitter accounts or something. i don't see why an ICO account will be suspended aside from cheating on bounties.

[jaesonma]

so the account that is suspected as spam or abuse or else will be frozen?

Right, they will decline those twitter spammer and facebooko spammer.

[jaesonma]

asking about translation and forum moderation bounty, in iconomi blog say 400,000 ICN for that bounty but i see in google spreadsheet say 600,000 ICN giving for translation and forum moderation, what the right number for translation and forum moderation bounty?

Who knows, i only know russian op got 50 btc bounty, maybe he is the insider.

I hope the less the better, his spamming in russian op makes rich

[liuka]

so the account that is suspected as spam or abuse or else will be frozen?

Of course, An account will be banned
if the team iconomi found a spam or abuse in they bounties.

[generous]

so the account that is suspected as spam or abuse or else will be frozen?

Of course, An account will be banned
if the team iconomi found a spam or abuse in they bounties.

If many accounts will be banned, whether the amount of the bounty will increase to seekers real bounty?