Vinz421
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October 15, 2016, 10:51:10 PM |
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Remember holders of Ethereum when the fork happened got the same
number of ETC free. Another fork could do the same if the original chain
is continued.
Why would anyone want to keep the original chain ? They're fixing exploits. Btw, the ETC weren't free. Their worth came directly from ETHs' value. |
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 10:55:46 PM |
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Wrong I got free ETC cus I had some ETH on an exchange.
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ShooterXD
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October 15, 2016, 10:59:16 PM |
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Remember holders of Ethereum when the fork happened got the same
number of ETC free. Another fork could do the same if the original chain
is continued.
Crypto free BTC perpetum mobile  Not free etc in this hardfork, sorry |
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:01:03 PM |
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If the original blockchain is kept alive, the coins are in both the new chain and the old one, not rocket science.
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Vinz421
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October 15, 2016, 11:02:34 PM |
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Wrong I got free ETC cus I had some ETH on an exchange.
Sure, I did too. But they weren't "free". What I'm saying is that the 250M market cap of ETC didn't "appear" overnight for free. The money came from the ETH capitalization.  |
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:03:57 PM |
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You copy the wallet data before the fork then convert the original wallet to the new chain and keep the old one on the old chain.
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BitBanksy
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October 15, 2016, 11:08:42 PM |
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Show me where it's written that ICN are company shares of ICONOMI ? ICN tokens represent ownership of the ICONOMI platform, allowing their holders to receive dividends and vote on ICONOMI related issues. Read the whitepaper again p.7 point 3.2: https://www.iconomi.net/ICONOMI_Whitepaper.pdf |
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aDAPPter
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October 15, 2016, 11:09:10 PM |
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they did not know that a double hardfork is comming when they gave the dates
Future investors will stay away from ETH tokens for a while that is all . If you can not to adapt to situation at time then you are not looking good and flexible. Do you think that Microsoft investors care why company has problems ? No, because you have CEO too forecast future problems and adapt before problems accrue. And ICONOMI failed hard at this. Companies failing at this are out of business. At and in six months maybe we will be at ICO price like waves and they will deliver some dividends, because this is what for ICONOMI is. Are fucking serious?!?! The ETH network is forking on Tuesday and you want them to launch the same day? If their town in Slovenia had Electricity Black-out, they should still go on with ICN token distribution by using rocks & sticks? Are u sure you're Hero member!? ... I'm sure I'll get a brain tumor by reading your post history.  |
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:09:20 PM |
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or keep them on an exchange in the hope they will list the old coin.
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:12:07 PM |
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My mist wallet has finished sync'ing, calm down. The Ethereum network is working.
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:15:43 PM |
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If you are concerned, then remove you Ethereum address from your Iconomi account. Take the blue pill  |
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MoveCrypto
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move that crypto
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October 15, 2016, 11:21:57 PM |
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Show me where it's written that ICN are company shares of ICONOMI ? ICN tokens represent ownership of the ICONOMI platform, allowing their holders to receive dividends and vote on ICONOMI related issues. Read the whitepaper again p.7 point 3.2: https://www.iconomi.net/ICONOMI_Whitepaper.pdfThe life of ICONOMI is continuously intertwined with duality — in its mission, in its governance and in its structure. Our team is already hard at work researching several options for incorporation in different jurisdictions across the globe. I am happy to say that at the moment of my writing, we are strongly favouring Switzerland(4), Liechtenstein, Luxemburg and the Netherlands, with several other jurisdictions in our due diligence process as well. The final decision will be made within weeks of the ICO ending. It sounds like ICN holders will not have any legal ownership of the Iconomi company that controls the ico funds. Just like ETH holders don't have any legal ownership of Ethereum Foundation (Stiftung Ethereum) Just like LSK holders won't have any legal ownership of the Lisk legal entity I think what they mean by "ownership" of platform, is ICN holders will receive all the dividends from platform and get to vote on who the service operator is. |
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XbladeX
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October 15, 2016, 11:23:22 PM |
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Are fucking serious?!?!
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In business being able to deliver on time is no.1 priority. Confidence in project = price of asset. BTC cost in fiat that much because people have confidence in BTC. If you lose confidence in project you will pay price. ...
The ETH network is forking on Tuesday and you want them to launch the same day?
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Why not ? Prepare 1st test contract deploy it then run standard few hours later if it works. If they think that they will have problems let all people withdraw manually at they will. ...
If their town in Slovenia had Electricity Black-out, they should still go on with ICN token distribution by using rocks & sticks?
... Maybe they will get generator to be able backup power ? I know in my town datacenter that have backup plan for elc. for 3-4 days if Electricity Black-out will accrue, so maybe just run contract form VPS machine that have DDOS,Electricity Black-out protection. |
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ICONOMI (OP)
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October 15, 2016, 11:24:24 PM |
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My mist wallet has finished sync'ing, calm down. The Ethereum network is working.
Wanna deploy 800k gas contract then? Wasn't possible before with 1.5m gas block limit. Not sure I even wanna explain. I did in one of my previous posts, but it requires some technical understanding in order to understand why and how. Now gas block limit is 500k. If before was deploy at least theoretically possible (but practically not), it is now even theoretically impossible because 500 < 800. Ethereum network atm is far from working at the moment. We have to wait for hard fork first. @XbladeX: ur such a troll. I remember when you were shitting about polish translation like crazy. Once I put a screenshot of native polish speaker saying it is not google translated and offered you to do the translation you went quiet. Now you're doing the same. Please read this explanation: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1587736.msg16555337#msg16555337 If you don't understand - ask first. And to remind all the trolls or impatient guys. We're not gonna take off unless conditions are clear. 30y ago one project was set to take off "no matter what". And it did took off. For 73 seconds. Then they disintegrated in an explosion. As much as it is important in life to push things forward - which ICONOMI clearly does. It is equally or even more important in crucial moments to know when not to go ahead and pause for a while. ICONOMI is ready. Ethereum network atm is not. |
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MrPresident
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October 15, 2016, 11:25:30 PM |
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Yeah I agree they are really hurthing themselves by postponing this release at this point if they postpone this will hurt them allot.
Do you not understand that launching befor a double hardfork is much worse? |
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:31:37 PM |
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I've invested a reasonable amount in ICN from profits on other alt coin trading. The website could be fantasy and the member fictitious but I liked what I read and invested. Time will tell. Dev's do what you said you are going to do, lots of people expecting innovation in the crypto world. Make this crypto into 'Innovative Crypto Nextgeneration' rather than the FUD guys would like 'I've Conned Noobies' |
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:33:48 PM |
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A solution would be to give out the tokens and let the investors decide whether to move their coins to their wallets.
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ICONOMI (OP)
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October 15, 2016, 11:35:32 PM |
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A solution would be to give out the token and let the investors decide whether to move their coins to their wallets.
How to deploy 800k gas token contract with 500k gas limit? Before that was at least theoretically possible (practically not - we're hands on), now it's impossible even theoretically. |
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BitBanksy
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October 15, 2016, 11:36:06 PM
Last edit: October 16, 2016, 12:16:00 AM by BitBanksy |
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Yeah I agree they are really hurthing themselves by postponing this release at this point if they postpone this will hurt them allot.
Do you not understand that launching befor a double hardfork is much worse? Sadly they don't understand... Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity... some members here are proving Einstein correct |
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MysterE
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October 15, 2016, 11:39:41 PM |
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A solution would be to give out the token and let the investors decide whether to move their coins to their wallets.
How to deploy 800k gas token contract with 500k gas limit? Before that was at least theoretically possible (practically not - we're hands on), now it's impossible even theoretically. Nice to hear, you are doing what you can when you can. I'm patient and see a positive outcome. |
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