[ANN] ICONOMI - Fund Management Platform

[Daparski]

just waiting the result of teamwork ICN
if it works nice polo and Bitrex will certainly add  

March 2017 possibly then... hehehe only 5 months to go
I gave up on Polo and Btrex... they rly ticked me off.
Likely I will never trade at Polo again the way we were treated... and continue to be iggy'd.

They sure wasted no time listing that crap Zcrash with 3 friggin gig of ram used for every tx, no supply, and a non-functioning wallet. Utterly ridiculous.

They sure wasted no time listing that crap Zcrash with 3 friggin gig of ram used for every tx, no supply, and a non-functioning wallet. Utterly ridiculous.

I can't figure out the hype behind zcash, besides quick profit from early miners.
It's so much half baked.. And so much overpriced.. So much
Actually I am not sure that it will be a good idea to list it on ICNX

Daily reward to miners:

Bitcoin - 1800 BTC
Ethereum - 455 BTC
Litecoin - 80 BTC
Monero - 50 BTC

Let's make a optimistic assumption that Zcash daily reward to miners will level out to 500 BTC per day after the slow start.

500 BTC per day ÷ 7200 ZEC per day = 0.069 BTC/ZEC

It would be a risky move for iconomi.index to buy into ZEC at a price higher than this.

well said. Even at a "break even" price it is risky to buy it into iconomi.index. It is too early, and zcash has way too many weird features: (feel free to add)
1. 20% of mining fess go to Zcash Electric Coin Company for first 4 years.
2. The same company is USA-based... not very smart
3. Mr. President favorite: 3GB ram usage per transaction
4. Nothing more than a linux-based command line tool for now.

Also - I think that privacy is nothing more than a niche feature and for most users the adequate privacy that bitcoin provides is more than enough.


With all due respect to privacy, I believe most users don't care about that

[favdesu]

just waiting the result of teamwork ICN
if it works nice polo and Bitrex will certainly add  

March 2017 possibly then... hehehe only 5 months to go
I gave up on Polo and Btrex... they rly ticked me off.
Likely I will never trade at Polo again the way we were treated... and continue to be iggy'd.

They sure wasted no time listing that crap Zcrash with 3 friggin gig of ram used for every tx, no supply, and a non-functioning wallet. Utterly ridiculous.

They sure wasted no time listing that crap Zcrash with 3 friggin gig of ram used for every tx, no supply, and a non-functioning wallet. Utterly ridiculous.

I can't figure out the hype behind zcash, besides quick profit from early miners.
It's so much half baked.. And so much overpriced.. So much
Actually I am not sure that it will be a good idea to list it on ICNX

Daily reward to miners:

Bitcoin - 1800 BTC
Ethereum - 455 BTC
Litecoin - 80 BTC
Monero - 50 BTC

Let's make a optimistic assumption that Zcash daily reward to miners will level out to 500 BTC per day after the slow start.

500 BTC per day ÷ 7200 ZEC per day = 0.069 BTC/ZEC

It would be a risky move for iconomi.index to buy into ZEC at a price higher than this.

well said. Even at a "break even" price it is risky to buy it into iconomi.index. It is too early, and zcash has way too many weird features: (feel free to add)
1. 20% of mining fess go to Zcash Electric Coin Company for first 4 years.
2. The same company is USA-based... not very smart
3. Mr. President favorite: 3GB ram usage per transaction
4. Nothing more than a linux-based command line tool for now.

Also - I think that privacy is nothing more than a niche feature and for most users the adequate privacy that bitcoin provides is more than enough.


With all due respect to privacy, I believe most users don't care about that

plus you'd only learn about mortal bugs until it's far too late. zcash should not be added to the index. ever.

[clickerz]

In chat liqui someone chating have waiting 18 hours to confirm deposit icn and i dont know if he get.I double my btc with icn.

I read in some groupchat feedback that liqui has a slow confirmations. Even before the ICN buyback they said its better in kraken compared to Liqui that is why, I waited in kraken to trade.

[rapazev]

In chat liqui someone chating have waiting 18 hours to confirm deposit icn and i dont know if he get.I double my btc with icn.

I read in some groupchat feedback that liqui has a slow confirmations. Even before the ICN buyback they said its better in kraken compared to Liqui that is why, I waited in kraken to trade.

i dont know about the confirmations because i dont use liqui, but one thing i know is liquidity...
liqui is awful on that. you can see it for yourself.. that's the main reason i'm using kraken to do some scalp and get more ICN's

[sanas]

Don't use Liqui , they send your BTC with small fee and no confirmation about 2 days

[honolulumark]

have you seen Waves?
its been 7 months already and still nothing happens but the usual pumps and dumps. they haven't release full nodes yet. same thing with eth as it took years before they fly up. we'd be luckier if platform goes well by december.

Hope we see a swing in price as soon as possible. The sell side on Kraken is growing bigger and bigger at  22k, while the volume is rapidly decreasing to 15-20 btc a day.

The team needs to rejuvenate the market, hope they know it and are preparing something for it.
Trading below ico is really really bad for the image of any token/coin.
It's like saying fuck you to your investors, and right now we're getting a big FUCK YOU.

[DeadBirdzz]

have you seen Waves?
its been 7 months already and still nothing happens but the usual pumps and dumps. they haven't release full nodes yet. same thing with eth as it took years before they fly up. we'd be luckier if platform goes well by december.

Hope we see a swing in price as soon as possible. The sell side on Kraken is growing bigger and bigger at  22k, while the volume is rapidly decreasing to 15-20 btc a day.

The team needs to rejuvenate the market, hope they know it and are preparing something for it.
Trading below ico is really really bad for the image of any token/coin.
It's like saying fuck you to your investors, and right now we're getting a big FUCK YOU.

bitch please.

go take your fucking pills.

[weilichesbin]

have you seen Waves?
its been 7 months already and still nothing happens but the usual pumps and dumps. they haven't release full nodes yet. same thing with eth as it took years before they fly up. we'd be luckier if platform goes well by december.

Hope we see a swing in price as soon as possible. The sell side on Kraken is growing bigger and bigger at  22k, while the volume is rapidly decreasing to 15-20 btc a day.

The team needs to rejuvenate the market, hope they know it and are preparing something for it.
Trading below ico is really really bad for the image of any token/coin.
It's like saying fuck you to your investors, and right now we're getting a big FUCK YOU.

Sell and buy back when volume Beginns to increase...in 2 weeks we will se 12k

[BlockChainr]

have you seen Waves?
its been 7 months already and still nothing happens but the usual pumps and dumps. they haven't release full nodes yet. same thing with eth as it took years before they fly up. we'd be luckier if platform goes well by december.

Hope we see a swing in price as soon as possible. The sell side on Kraken is growing bigger and bigger at  22k, while the volume is rapidly decreasing to 15-20 btc a day.

The team needs to rejuvenate the market, hope they know it and are preparing something for it.
Trading below ico is really really bad for the image of any token/coin.
It's like saying fuck you to your investors, and right now we're getting a big FUCK YOU.

Sell and buy back when volume Beginns to increase...in 2 weeks we will se 12k

Or we could see 112k if ICN is added to Poloniex in 2 weeks.

It's just a matter of time before we see ICN on Poloniex. They can announce it any minute.

If you're out of ICN by then, you're screwed.

 

[kobilica]

I don't want to see zcash added to index too.

[Wall-Street]

Remember kids...
People who sold ETH under $1 are on depression medications right now...

[btctube]

I don't want to see zcash added to index too.

It doesn't matter if they add zcash to icnx. hold your ICN that's what matters.

[Daparski]

I don't want to see zcash added to index too.

It doesn't matter if they add zcash to icnx. hold your ICN that's what matters.

It does matter. A lot.
ICN price will be determined mostly by 3 factors:
1. The performance of ICNX and ICNP.
2. Strategical decisions and their implementation.
3. Total amount of money and funds in the platform (OFM).


It is still too early for that, but it looks like adding zcash to ICNX is a bad move.

[favdesu]

I don't want to see zcash added to index too.

It doesn't matter if they add zcash to icnx. hold your ICN that's what matters.

It does matter. A lot.
ICN price will be determined mostly by 3 factors:
1. The performance of ICNX and ICNP.
2. Strategical decisions and their implementation.
3. Total amount of money and funds in the platform (OFM).


It is still too early for that, but it looks like adding zcash to ICNX is a bad move.

as they stated, they only add coins older than 2 months... hope by the time zcash will be gone from the top 10

[weilichesbin]

have you seen Waves?
its been 7 months already and still nothing happens but the usual pumps and dumps. they haven't release full nodes yet. same thing with eth as it took years before they fly up. we'd be luckier if platform goes well by december.

Hope we see a swing in price as soon as possible. The sell side on Kraken is growing bigger and bigger at  22k, while the volume is rapidly decreasing to 15-20 btc a day.

The team needs to rejuvenate the market, hope they know it and are preparing something for it.
Trading below ico is really really bad for the image of any token/coin.
It's like saying fuck you to your investors, and right now we're getting a big FUCK YOU.

Sell and buy back when volume Beginns to increase...in 2 weeks we will se 12k

Or we could see 112k if ICN is added to Poloniex in 2 weeks.

It's just a matter of time before we see ICN on Poloniex. They can announce it any minute.

If you're out of ICN by then, you're screwed.

 

They wont... they add After release during q1 2017

[Daparski]

I don't want to see zcash added to index too.

It doesn't matter if they add zcash to icnx. hold your ICN that's what matters.

It does matter. A lot.
ICN price will be determined mostly by 3 factors:
1. The performance of ICNX and ICNP.
2. Strategical decisions and their implementation.
3. Total amount of money and funds in the platform (OFM).


It is still too early for that, but it looks like adding zcash to ICNX is a bad move.

as they stated, they only add coins older than 2 months... hope by the time zcash will be gone from the top 10

Iconomi quote:

From what we have seen in the last day in terms of popularity, traded volume and market cap, Zcash will likely be included on ICNX

It means they see long-term value in zcash. How can you see that in a coin that was released few days ago, and is, basically, still in beta?

[BlockChainr]

They wont... they add After release during q1 2017

Poloniex never announced when they will add ICN.

Devs promised ICN will be available on TOP exchanges and that NDAs are still in place (after it was added to Kraken), which means it's an NDA with Poloniex.

IMO, Devs shouldn't access the $10 million ico funds in escrow UNTIL they succeed at listing ICN on Poloniex.

There's always a way... they just have to discuss it with Poloniex.

[MrPresident]

Kiki i told....volume near zero and price fall Ing and falling. ..2 days more and u can buy back for 0.00015

It is falling and falling?
Where do you see this?

The team needs to rejuvenate the market, hope they know it and are preparing something for it.
Trading below ico is really really bad for the image of any token/coin.
It's like saying fuck you to your investors, and right now we're getting a big FUCK YOU.

Have you been hitting the Bong and sipping Kava again ?
HQ doesn't control the market.
The "big FUCK YOU" is from Poloniex and Bittrex.
They had HQ sign NDA's then left the whole ICN community's asses swinging in the breeze.
So, blame them if anyone.... and Puff puff pass dogonnit!  

[ShooterXD]

DON'T FEED THE TROOLS, PRESS IGNORE BUTTON AND BE HAPPY

[Videodrome]

Why waves is media? It should be a platform.

And it is.
There was glitch in my table (after removing tokens which left ICNX some cells did not shift...)
Now fixed.

thank you for noticing.

cheers,
Jaka

Jaka does this guys deserve a small bounty?  

Can we have an iconomi forum one day? here is hard to start growing a community.

Actually I got a comment about this typo on telegram just minutes after posting, but did not see anything until this morning. :\ Anyhow bounty time is over, or maybe reserved for special achievements Surprise us!

Regarding forum, I agree with you that bitcointalk is a big mess and hard to follow... especially since there is no way to ban fudsters/trolls.
I use forum's ignore feature quite a lot, which makes it bearable... I suggest all users to do the same - this way trolls will be ignored and will maybe just go away.

In the last week I was busy structuring our communications strategy... Consequently we will be closing down few of the communications channels, as quantity should never be in front of quality... Especially telegram group is completely spammy, so it goes first. We'll close it down in the next few days.
Our own forum is a possibility if we do not find a better solution. But right now we are completely focused on delivering both investment funds before the end of year. Everything else is secondary.

We like the idea of having the best quality content and intelligent debates on our subreddit at http://reddit.com/r/iconomi ... reddit's up/down voting is a great mechanism to block poor content and trolls...


More in the next days...
Jaka

Thanks for the update!