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September 03, 2016, 01:37:38 PM
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hello frds pls

where is wallet to put my BTCD before exchange for KOMODO !

need windows (chrome) wallet pls

THANKS n good day
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September 03, 2016, 01:39:38 PM
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Actually there was no problem but the one created with ICO.

If you wanted to be fair to BTCD investors and new ICO investors - it's just enough new investors buy BTCD. No ICO needed, 100% fair to everyone.

No creating a problem solves it better then solving the created one Smiley

Why not sell your BTCD during the ICO to people that would otherwise invest using BTC?

This will solve the liquidity problem and any perceived risk you have.

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Ok, so a 10% premine also to go to insiders and bounties... hmm, hope we hear more about plans for this bucket of komodos. 30k btc is a lot to work with so I feel 10% premine is hard to stomach for btcd bagholders
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September 03, 2016, 01:44:28 PM
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More fun: take off your mask - said another guy in a mask Smiley

Brilliant off topic.


what you should worry more is the mask you have in your face? That show a hidden big ego. No just lack of personality but poor way of living your life and how people perceive you. I am sorry you are full of anger or if you had a bad childhood. Take time to become a better person and be part of the society, don't be on your own trying to hurt people because all you do is to hurt yourself even more. Be part of a community, feel the love of belonging to something. There is time to change your life, take off your mask and be part of a good society free of anger and hate

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September 03, 2016, 01:56:32 PM
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HODL, HODL, HODL!I suspect that when his alliance dumped most coins, he dilutes 200x to raise more money again.
Jl777 is doing  many very long term projects and all profits will pour into your ... ILLUSION.
Show your codes with other devs who can understand potential profits, pay them with SuperNET money and assests, do the rest as promises. Why don't you do this way?
Another cycle will be this: no real product, just git, clone & run because he can't do GUI, do not blame him...
Because NXT devs kicked him out, SuperNET and other assets are nearly homeless.
CryptoCard is dead in silence. Teleport, Telepathy: too longterm ideas that ZCASH makes them obsolute and James wants to depend on that technology to further delay his project if anything happens with Zcash relationship.
InstantDEX will be EasyDEX for a show case after 2 years gambling with SuperNET money and no real product.
After BTCD dilutting, SuperNET and other assets manipulating projects is the next?

By the way, up until now, Jl777's API is like this:

http://i64.tinypic.com/2v9ccx2.gif

Jl777's commitment is as following:

http://i66.tinypic.com/2m2gayd.jpg

Poor all BTCD bag holders!


hmmmm...after read all I come across this!!! Seems dev not so trustworthy. betray previous investor with ever more project Sad
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September 03, 2016, 02:24:44 PM
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September 03, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
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hmmmm...after read all I come across this!!! Seems dev not so trustworthy. betray previous investor with ever more project Sad

jl777 joined BTCD development in the midway, and it has been a community driven project with no real funding.

Now funding is required to fulfill the vision Komodo has.

A few posts ago jl777 gave a very detailed explanation regarding the other projects he is involved with. Maybe you missed it! Here it is again:


While I have done many projects, I think "dozens" is an exaggeration. Similarily your statement about no projects finished is a bit harsh.

jl777hodl is a holding fund for various crypto projects. As such it has been finished for years. It was the first asset that started trading and made history, this was something like 2 years ago. I would consider this finished.

MGW is multigateway.com and that also has been finished and in service for over a year. Since it is working and being used for over a year, I would consider that finished.

NXTventure is another one that has been finished for over a year. It has paid out in dividends more than I think any other NXT asset by value of dividends at the time it was sent out. Again, the future of NXTventure is hampered by all the changes with NXT that is out of my control, however I would consider NXTventure was completed.

SuperNET is a hybrid holding vehicle and technology incubator. At least that is one way to look at it. http://www.supernet.org/nav.php shows its current holdings and despite being hit by a 75% reduction in its NAV the first year (mostly due to NXT price decline and my not actively trading), the NAV has more than doubled to within striking distance of the original. This is achieved while paying for all the costs to run SuperNET out of the investment gains. Now what other project self-funds from investment gains that it makes?

I have issued more than a dozen proxy assets, such as mgwBTC and superBTC. These asset's function is to represent 1:1 the BTC to allow using the NXT AE to trade them via blockchain. I did this 2 years ago and I am pretty sure it was the first tokenDEX that allowed trading of crypto against crypto. This is 2 years ago, when just now we finally see other solutions of this kind appearing. I would consider these assets completed.

Iguana is a bitcoin daemon and wallet that can sync the entire BTC blockchain from scratch in 2 hours. It also can sync over a dozen other coins, all from a self-contained codebase that I wrote from scratch. Its codesize is about 3MB and it has been ported from unix to osx, win32, win64, android and chrome app. docs.supernet.org documents its API bindings and it is now in the final stages of debug and will be used as a component within komodo. I have seen some GUI that is looking pretty good and for basic wallet function and parallel sync it appears to be working, though I do the core level code and not the GUI so I cant speak for it in detail.

Is iguana completed? Not quite, but it is very close and I suggest you take a look at it. The source code has been open and available during the development process at https://github.com/jl777/SuperNET and you can see that I have been quite busy over the years. docs.supernet.org documents the API

crypto777: this is an ongoing technology revenue asset and as soon as project start generating revenues, it will too. It basically represents revenues from the technology that I do that doesnt already have an asset to encapsulate its revenues. In some sense it is done, just that the revenue streams are flowing yet. Maybe this is in an in-between state, but there was no ICO per se for this, so not sure if you have an issue with it.

Now to the real unfinished projects list, however please note that there was NO ICO for these and it was funded by small number of private investors, so I dont think it is fair for you to criticize them as an incomplete ICO, as they were not even ICO:

InstantDEX: easyDEX is in last stages of coding/debugging and is part of the overall solution of loosely coupled blockchains using atomic swaps. The full InstantDEX was mostly working last year(!) however due to disappearance of GUI dev combine with NXT increasing txfees dramatically while reducing the available space to store data, made an InstantDEX built on NXT uneconomic. Should InstantDEX have been finished by now? Yes. I made a mistake of building the InstantDEX on top of NXT, which is a platform that I had no voice in and when everything was changed and made it so a few of my projects became unviable, my protests were met with a "you should have known better". OK, so lesson learned and now I know better, I wrote iguana from scratch so its entirety I am in control. Never again will I be at the mercy of arbitrary changes that break backward compatibility and the fundamental economic model of a service I built on top of it.

Pangea: this is a decentralized poker service that is in a holding pattern now due to the retooling required to switch from a NXT based service to iguana based.

Tradebots/NXTcoinsco: part of this is in the process of being completed within the easyDEX framework, but again the shift from NXT based to iguana based was a delay factor.

NXTprivacy: this is mostly a deprecated asset due to my shift from NXT to iguana, but I do have a plan to infuse some life to it after the dust settles from the other projects. In any case it never did any ICO and didnt even do much of secondary trading on NXT AE, so its priority has been low.

Do you want me to list the projects that I didnt even raise funds from private investors and are just various technology projects that I have percolating? Not sure why you would have any complaints if I have a lot of projects in the research phase that I have not raised funds for.

I proposed an Asset Passport system, which is a way to protect asset issuer and holders by allowing them to migrate from chain to chain. This was actually the genesis of dPoW which evolved from the need to secure weak PoS chains. I never raised any funds for this.

I have proposed Teleport, Telepathy and PAX within the BTCD context, but I did not do any ICO to raise funds to develop this. Teleport at a high level is similar to zcash, in that there is a blackbox of bits representing the transaction, but the math behind the zero knowledge proofs is a step above anything else and I always want to use the best tech solution for my systems, even if it means replacing something I made. Telepathy is a network level privacy "mixer" and this will work on top of the komodo, of course it needs for komodo to be finalized and also its urgency is much less due to the strength of zcash tech. PAX has been coded to alpha level, but as an unfunded project has been back burnered and also waits for the full transition to iguana. Is it is disappointing that these things have not been completed yet? Sure, but I am just one guy coding away most days and many have advised me to get more help at the core level. The issue is I cant find any other C coders at my level who will work for anything less than a lot of money.

I am also providing free consulting for many projects, they just have to ask and I try to help as I can, which is usually with some technical ideas. I am not the one actually doing these projects though, so I hope you do not hold me responsible for any delivery status of all the projects I have helped with my advice.

I understand if you see all these projects and there isnt the level of success you want to see. After all if it was all finished and a big success I wouldnt have to be working these 14 hour days 28 days a month, continuously.

However, the perception that I never finish everything is not correct. The perception that I do dozens of ICOs and just spend all the money and ask for more, is not correct.

I have done exactly one ICO outside of the NXT assets, and that is SuperNET. Its charter for use of funds is primarily to make investments and I have been funding operations from the profits, while growing the NAV from a low of .002 to its current .006 level.

If you can name any other ICO I conducted where funds were raised and I havent delivered anything, I am curious to know what it is. As you can see I am not limited in the number of ideas, nor do I feel their quality is low. What I need is more resources. I had hoped to get at least half a dozen volunteers to work on the core C projects, but alas, there were none.

With komodo there is the possibility of creating not only the first dPoW implementation, but also to fund all of the pending projects that are in slow motion due to my only having 16 hours per day to work and I am slacking off this year by working only 14 hours per day.

James



I hope this clears everything for you!

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September 03, 2016, 02:48:13 PM
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September 03, 2016, 04:33:32 PM
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For those in charge of bounties for this project. Please be innovative - DON'T DO ANY BOUNTIES at all. We all know people with multiple accounts will game this however you do it. Just don't. Let everyone who wants some KMD by it.
Those who wants KMD to succeeded will retwitt for free if they are interested in this project.

There are always freebies dumps. Who needs this?

James, just do a simple poll with two options, if it's 50/50 you'll know most of the multiaccount guys would want bounties Smiley
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September 03, 2016, 04:50:32 PM
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Fortunate with all the raging posts. Keeps the thread bumped. New readers, consult OP. BTC linkage, Zcash integration, privacy superior to XMR. None of the FUD posts are addressing this. Ask yourself why.
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Very good  project and very talented people behind it! This is a 5 stars project

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September 03, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
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Anyone want to sell their btcd for 350k Satoshi plus pm me.


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If you simply step aside from the Drama and use simple reasoning skills, you will see that a fundamental change needs to occur to this ICO to keep everyone protected.

For quite some time BitCoinDark has been advertised with Telepods, Telepathy, Teleport, RamChains, 5/5/5 (SuperNET / Iguana fees / divs) and hence the basis for many investors of BTCD..  If Zero Cash (ZKP) is as good or better than Teleport/Telepathy and easier to implement (since it's already written), than ZKP really needs to occur to BitCoinDark apart from new Komodo ICO.  It sounds like the 5/5/5 has been preserved for BTCD Holders separate from Komodo, but not the Anonymity factor.

Hence, the Anonymity factor is effectively an obligation to BitCoinDark, separate from Komodo.

Plus, all the noise appears to be about costs related to dPOW, Notaries, and expensive servers - so it makes even more sense to separate ZKP from the Komodo ICO.

With the ZKP anonymity factor BitCoinDark would very likely shoot up in MarketCap (Monero / Dash / Shadow).  It would also have a silencing effect to all the FUD/Critics of JL777 not completing projects,  Lastly, it would provide more revenue from long term SuperNET/BitCoinDark/Iguana investors infused into the Komodo Project.  A Win-Win-Win situation.

Examples of what has been promoted as a basis for Bitcoindark investment:

http://bitcoindark.wikia.com/wiki/BitcoinDark_Wiki
https://medium.com/@Bitfirmio/instantdex-and-anonymity-b6523f697a4d#.jrd01tyuw
http://wiki.supernet.org/wiki/Teleport
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoindarks-teleport-technology-aims-to-make-cryptocurrencies-truly-untraceable
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What we as the community of BTCD should do is to ask for the ICO funds for ourselves as a DAO and only pay to jl777 for the actual work he does (if any). That way the funds would remain in the hands of the community. In addition, BTCD should still be renamed to Komodo because BTCD needs a better name.

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If we say Komodo is BTCD 2.0 and want to be fair with BTCD holders - please discuss it with BTCD investors.

I noticed BTCD investors are now "bad holders" and new ICO - the true investors! not really fair!

This (wanting to dilute funds 5 times + no discussion) actually shows abusive approach to investors and is not a good sign for ICO investors.

If you change your approach and do what should be done before - there is still time - it can be much better for all.

So if you call it BTCD 2.0 and want to be fair with current investors + you do not want a bad fame on KMD ICO - this should be cleared.

I'm pretty sure most BTCD holders would accept 6-10k max BTC ICO , which means their funds get dilluted 2-3x, but still allows achieve some goals in the future.

But aware investors would expect some justification of required money, not just some amounts from the moon. How much we need for this, how much for that.. and so on. Sorry - this is busienss approach. Any other approach is not professional at least.

But no discussion = no trust = bad fame, complaining and FUD.

In fact if you treat old investors like that, what you expect?

Summary:

What you win by discussion and going for compromise is:
- respect
- less complaining
- trust, as you prove you treat investors seriously

What invetors need:
- not frozing the price for 10 weeks so low
- not diluting funds so much

No discussion and diluting BTCD so much is a proof for new ICO investors that the team does not care about what investors think. So it's worse then FUD, it's just a proof of a bad approach.




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What we as the community of BTCD should do is to ask for the ICO funds for ourselves as a DAO and only pay to jl777 for the actual work he does (if any). That way the funds would remain in the hands of the community.

It would be an interesting experiment. So far all experiments with community-controlled projects ended not very successfully...
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This could be another approach - maybe even more fair, but harder to do - ask the BTCD investors for additional money for development.

It's also harder because requires costs estiamtions, to know what we should pay for.

So maybe in the end ICO is best idea, but with lower max, not more then 10k BTC, I think doubling current marketcap would be ok. Still - all investors could buy BTCD already if they wanted to increase share.

What we as the community of BTCD should do is to ask for the ICO funds for ourselves as a DAO and only pay to jl777 for the actual work he does (if any). That way the funds would remain in the hands of the community. In addition, BTCD should still be renamed to Komodo because BTCD needs a better name.

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If we say Komodo is BTCD 2.0 and want to be fair with BTCD holders - please discuss it with BTCD investors.

I noticed BTCD investors are now "bad holders" and new ICO - the true investors! not really fair!

This (wanting to dilute funds 5 times + no discussion) actually shows abusive approach to investors and is not a good sign for ICO investors.

If you change your approach and do what should be done before - there is still time - it can be much better for all.

So if you call it BTCD 2.0 and want to be fair with current investors + you do not want a bad fame on KMD ICO - this should be cleared.

I'm pretty sure most BTCD holders would accept 6-10k max BTC ICO , which means their funds get dilluted 2-3x, but still allows achieve some goals in the future.

But aware investors would expect some justification of required money, not just some amounts from the moon. How much we need for this, how much for that.. and so on. Sorry - this is busienss approach. Any other approach is not professional at least.

But no discussion = no trust = bad fame, complaining and FUD.

In fact if you treat old investors like that, what you expect?

Summary:

What you win by discussion and going for compromise is:
- respect
- less complaining
- trust, as you prove you treat investors seriously

What invetors need:
- not frozing the price for 10 weeks so low
- not diluting funds so much

No discussion and diluting BTCD so much is a proof for new ICO investors that the team does not care about what investors think. So it's worse then FUD, it's just a proof of a bad approach.





There's potentially 30k BTC at stake here. I'd be surprised if much notice is given to the dissenting voices of any BTCD investors. Sorry for the way things went down, BTCD investors would have been rewarded greatly if all these improvements had been applied directly to it or a 1:1 swap had been offered with the supply remaining the same.

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For those in charge of bounties for this project. Please be innovative - DON'T DO ANY BOUNTIES at all. We all know people with multiple accounts will game this however you do it. Just don't. Let everyone who wants some KMD by it.
Those who wants KMD to succeeded will retwitt for free if they are interested in this project.

There are always freebies dumps. Who needs this?

James, just do a simple poll with two options, if it's 50/50 you'll know most of the multiaccount guys would want bounties Smiley

There will be bounties for translations and a sig bounty as they actually work. I dont know if we would have bounties for newsletters and social network follows as i dont think they really bring any value but this is still up for discussions.

Very good  project and very talented people behind it! This is a 5 stars project

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Anyone want to sell their btcd for 350k Satoshi plus pm me.

Best bet is to put the buy on Polo.

If you simply step aside from the Drama and use simple reasoning skills, you will see that a fundamental change needs to occur to this ICO to keep everyone protected.

For quite some time BitCoinDark has been advertised with Telepods, Telepathy, Teleport, RamChains, 5/5/5 (SuperNET / Iguana fees / divs) and hence the basis for many investors of BTCD..  If Zero Cash (ZKP) is as good or better than Teleport/Telepathy and easier to implement (since it's already written), than ZKP really needs to occur to BitCoinDark apart from new Komodo ICO.  It sounds like the 5/5/5 has been preserved for BTCD Holders separate from Komodo, but not the Anonymity factor.

Hence, the Anonymity factor is effectively an obligation to BitCoinDark, separate from Komodo.

Plus, all the noise appears to be about costs related to dPOW, Notaries, and expensive servers - so it makes even more sense to separate ZKP from the Komodo ICO.

With the ZKP anonymity factor BitCoinDark would very likely shoot up in MarketCap (Monero / Dash / Shadow).  It would also have a silencing effect to all the FUD/Critics of JL777 not completing projects,  Lastly, it would provide more revenue from long term SuperNET/BitCoinDark/Iguana investors infused into the Komodo Project.  A Win-Win-Win situation.

Examples of what has been promoted as a basis for Bitcoindark investment:

http://bitcoindark.wikia.com/wiki/BitcoinDark_Wiki
https://medium.com/@Bitfirmio/instantdex-and-anonymity-b6523f697a4d#.jrd01tyuw
http://wiki.supernet.org/wiki/Teleport
https://cointelegraph.com/news/bitcoindarks-teleport-technology-aims-to-make-cryptocurrencies-truly-untraceable


Anyone can do this once Zcash is released and fork it. Will a fork of Zcash with no modifications be worth more than what BTCD is right now?

If there is enough support for just a zcash fork, BTCD 1.0 holders can do that.

What we as the community of BTCD should do is to ask for the ICO funds for ourselves as a DAO and only pay to jl777 for the actual work he does (if any). That way the funds would remain in the hands of the community. In addition, BTCD should still be renamed to Komodo because BTCD needs a better name.

You dont speak on behalf of all BTCD so you should not act like it. You would like to steal Jame's idea for the name and ICO but then hire him to do the dev work?

Why not come up with your own name and get a dev to do the work for you? Then you save even on the back pay you would owe James.





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September 03, 2016, 09:47:37 PM
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Start this new Komodo coin with snapshots just like NXT did. Everyone will be happy. Then, when the Komodo chain has launched make it possible for the KMD stakeholders to print new KMD and sell them on the open market to fund development. This approach has been used before and it works. Let the community control the funds and let it be necessity-based. jl777 you don't really need 30k upfront, it's ridiculous. Just ask the money that you really need and explain where you spend it. If you are going to dilute BTCD holders share then AT LEAST DO IT BIT BY BIT.

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