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July 27, 2011, 02:26:03 PM
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That was my thought as well, Kripz.  The big get bigger with the top ten stickied. 

They should sticky the smallest pools heh, then it'd be a competition to see how few users one can get Smiley

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July 27, 2011, 03:51:39 PM
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While waiting nearly 2 days for a block we were working on, I was wondering if I would be better off going to deepbit since they find (solve?) the majority of the blocks.

I get a better percentage when the pool is smaller.  Since I would be such a small fraction at deepbit, they would have to get about 100 blocks for me to get about the same in my purse as I do at EclipseMC.  Deepbit did claim 124 blocks (at the time I counted) since we got #137923.  But then we finally got #138241 and another several hours later.  So, it seems I do just as well in a smaller pool the way things have been going.

Inaba, is there anything I can do on my end to reduce the rejects?  [Rej: 97/3381 (2.87%)]
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July 27, 2011, 03:57:15 PM
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Im wondering whats the current method of payment for us, is it proportional?
Also, inaba your still workin on PPS right?

Since, Im such a noob...finding info on comparison of the different types of payment is prooved a challenge lol...
How would PPS compare to our current method in a small pool vs a large pool?

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July 27, 2011, 04:32:53 PM
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GenTarkin: I am looking into PPLNS, but I'm not sure it can mesh with the scoring system like a straight PPS would... but given the difficulty rises, straight PPS would probably turn into a huge loss in the long run and I'm not sure I'm willing to undertake that kind of risk.  I'm still evaluating the different options, though.

The current method is Meni's Cheat-Proof Scoring system.  Estimated Earnings are still based on proportional - however they should be pretty close to accurate assuming you are a consistent miner - the only people it will be off for are pool hoppers or those that are disconnected prior to and including a block solve.

When you say different types of payment, I assume you mean different types of share/fund distribution is usually limited to BTC and in the case of EMC PPUSD as well.

Village.idiot: It all averages out and given the fact that EMC does not charge a fee, you are coming out 3% ahead in the long run than you would at Deepbit.  As far as reducing rejects, 2.87% is pretty good - but to reduce it further more information is needed - when are you getting these rejects and what are they being rejected for?  If the majority of them come after a LP, then there's not much you can do about that except speed up your MH rate... however,  I will be implementing some changes this coming week to reduce rejects across the board, so that should reduce your rejects by at least 1% if not more (depends on what kind of rejects you are getting, again).

I will make a post about it once I have the new code in place.  So much to do! Smiley  But now that the scoring is in place and appears to be working / processing the block, I can focus on other things.

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July 27, 2011, 05:14:03 PM
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Thanks for that explanation inaba. Yeah when I meant payment, I meant share distribution / reward.

Also, another question...so my mining PC is mining most of the time and emc is my only pool. But, lets say if one night (maybe a couple times a week) I stop my miner so I can play a game for a few hours, will this punish me harshly? Thanks

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July 27, 2011, 05:26:23 PM
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Also, another question...so my mining PC is mining most of the time and emc is my only pool. But, lets say if one night (maybe a couple times a week) I stop my miner so I can play a game for a few hours, will this punish me harshly? Thanks
No. You will just not receive payment for the shares you could have submitted during that time. But keep in mind that there is variance involved, e.g. it could be that a block is found during these hours and you'll miss out, or it could be that nothing will be found and in hindsight the downtime didn't decrease your payouts at all. But on average, your reward is always exactly proportional to the amount of work done.

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July 27, 2011, 05:57:14 PM
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Awesome, thanks for your answer.. You guys all rock. Love this pool!

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July 27, 2011, 06:36:52 PM
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It all averages out and given the fact that EMC does not charge a fee, you are coming out 3% ahead in the long run than you would at Deepbit.

And that's even better  Cool
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July 28, 2011, 02:12:28 AM
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On the last block (#31)  4% of my shares were stale (344 for 8594 shares) and on a long block (#29) I had 4.6% stale (1466 of 32214 shares).  I pinged us.eclpsemc.com throw the cmd and averaged 84ms.  I look forward to the changes you make this weekend. 

I like that you include the number of stale shares for each miner per block but I rather just get a table of numbers then the graph.  I have to hover over the bars to get the exact numbers. 

Just saw we got block 32, we are on a lucky streak!
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July 28, 2011, 02:14:37 AM
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July 28, 2011, 04:35:23 AM
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The pool is either having really good luck (I hope so  Smiley) or some of these block are going to be invalid (I hope not  Embarrassed)
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July 28, 2011, 04:55:20 AM
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The pool is either having really good luck (I hope so  Smiley) or some of these block are going to be invalid (I hope not  Embarrassed)
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July 28, 2011, 06:58:28 AM
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As soon as the last block was solved, i wrote down my unconfirmed balance, it was: 1.49877698. Now it is 1.02560199, what one is wrong and why? (Of course my confirmed balance is still zero)
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July 28, 2011, 07:00:52 AM
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My reward for the last block was 1.48 and now it's dropped to 0.74, so probably that.
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July 28, 2011, 08:11:21 AM
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Mine is down too, and also lost some btc even though im pretty sure i had no connection issues and same stales as always.

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July 28, 2011, 10:49:37 AM
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Mine looks just fine.  Still three blocks to be confirmed at this point.
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July 28, 2011, 11:50:19 AM
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Could it be a scoring issue? I've not had any diff with my est and actual earnings. Are you guys sure no drops have happened?

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July 28, 2011, 11:57:17 AM
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Could it be a scoring issue? I've not had any diff with my est and actual earnings. Are you guys sure no drops have happened?

If you didn't check the site in the 30mins after the block was solved you wouldn't have seen it.    I suspect the reward was doubled initially somehow then corrected.
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July 28, 2011, 04:42:41 PM
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I'm sorry, I thought I had posted here, too... but I guess I just posted on the EMC forums.

There was a problem with the blocks and block 33 got doubled.  I backed out 33 and reapplied it, so yes for block 33 your unconfirmed payout was doubled for a little while. 

I think I tracked down the bug or at least a related bug as to why that happened.  I will be rolling the fix into the stale reduction patch on the getwork server to hopefully prevent that from happening in the future.


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July 28, 2011, 04:55:18 PM
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Little update here:


There was an error with acquiring the exchange rate, please try again later.

Still getting the above when doing a paypal transaction, although it goes through just fine...

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