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December 16, 2011, 02:12:39 AM
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I'm in!!! Just pointed all my rigs to this pool, looking forward to finding some blocks for all of us. I just pointed about 2.8 GH/s and will be doubling that within a few weeks.

WELCOME!!  :-D

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December 16, 2011, 02:12:51 AM
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I can add income over the past 24 hours with a sliding window... I'm not sure there's any useful way to estimate future income, though, except what's there now.

Wait, why won't this simple formula work?

btc_per_day = 86400.0 * (hash_rate / 2^32) * (50.0 / difficulty)

Of course, it's subject to variance, but maybe the expected BTC per day is what Thiago is looking for? IMO, this would be more useful than seeing what I earned in the previous 24 hours.

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December 16, 2011, 02:18:01 AM
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Inaba,

 The last line of "Quick Statistics" is out of its table, look:

 http://i.imgur.com/W3vV2.png

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December 16, 2011, 02:18:53 AM
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I can add income over the past 24 hours with a sliding window... I'm not sure there's any useful way to estimate future income, though, except what's there now.

Wait, why won't this simple formula work?

btc_per_day = 86400.0 * (hash_rate / 2^32) * (50.0 / difficulty)

Of course, it's subject to variance, but maybe the expected BTC per day is what Thiago is looking for? IMO, this would be more useful than seeing what I earned in the previous 24 hours.

Maybe?!?! Where that came from?!?!  LOL

^_^

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December 16, 2011, 02:31:25 AM
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Wait, why won't this simple formula work?

btc_per_day = 86400.0 * (hash_rate / 2^32) * (50.0 / difficulty)

Of course, it's subject to variance, but maybe the expected BTC per day is what Thiago is looking for? IMO, this would be more useful than seeing what I earned in the previous 24 hours.

Maybe?!?! Where that came from?!?!  LOL

^_^

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You can break that down as:

num_seconds_per_day = 86400.0
probability_of_a_hash_solving_a_block = 1 / (2^32 * difficulty)
btc_per_block = 50.0

So the expected btc you'll get per day = num_seconds_per_day * hash_rate * probability_of_a_hash_solving_a_block * btc_per_block.

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December 16, 2011, 02:33:55 AM
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I've found some browsers don't render it properly.  CSS is the devil... never works right.  It looks proper in a number of browsers I've tried and looks like you show in several others (specially my Xoom browser and on my phone).  I need to redo that box with tables instead of CSS

As for estimated income, I can use that formula, but it will not be very accurate due to DGM, unless you have a very steady hashrate over the course of several days.  It also wouldn't account for any pool hoppers or people coming into and out of the pool.

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December 16, 2011, 03:04:01 AM
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As for estimated income, I can use that formula, but it will not be very accurate due to DGM, unless you have a very steady hashrate over the course of several days.  It also wouldn't account for any pool hoppers or people coming into and out of the pool.

Do you think this is better?

user's estimated DGM reward for next block * expected number of solved blocks in 24 hours based on yesterday's average pool hash rate?

Edit: Meh, I don't think this really works either, unless the cross-round leakage parameter is 1.

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December 17, 2011, 09:51:41 AM
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Faster and faster Grin I like it.

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December 20, 2011, 06:51:32 PM
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Hi are block solved emails not working? I haven't received one in about 48 hours. Miner failed emails have come through fine though.

Thanks!

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December 20, 2011, 06:55:04 PM
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Anyone else having problems?  I have been having an issue personally with the block solve emails (and SMS), but I thought it was just me.  Looking at the logs, it looks like everything is working.  If you want to PM me your email address I can take a look. 

I keep meaning to address the issue for myself, but since it's me, I have been prioritizing other issues (sure wish Shads would login and answer my PM!) - but if it's affecting other people, I will prioritize that higher.

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December 20, 2011, 08:20:17 PM
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I have made some security changes to both the getwork servers and the webservers.  This should not affect users, but if you notice any strange behavior, please let me know immediately.  

Aside from the changes I've been making to some of the graphs and fixing small bugs, I have been working on getting PoolserverJ integrated into our system.  It's proving to be exceptionally difficult, primarily because there are not enough places to hook into the pluggable engine of PoolserverJ to accomodate DGM.  I have sent a PM to Shads, but have yet to hear back from him.  I would really like to avoid modifying the PSJ source directly, but it seems like that may be the direction I am headed if I end up going with PSJ.    It's either that or rewrite the whole DGM codebase completely (along with a number of other parts of the site) - this isn't off the table, but it's something I would like to avoid if possible.

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Also - I want to be sure that everyone is fully aware of the fact that you should NEVER use your pool password on the forums (or anywhere else for that matter).  Your pool password should be unique and not used anywhere else, even on the EclipseMC forums.  Ideally, you would have a different username on the forums than you would on the pool as well, though that is not so important.

If your pool password is the same as your forum password, please go change your pool password immediately.

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December 21, 2011, 04:38:08 AM
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Hello,
  Been at the pool for about 3 days...  working well Smiley

I have a couple of issues, tried to get into the forums, but did not receive email so I cant post.  will list issues here.


bugs:
1.  according to https://eclipsemc.com/my_found_blocks.php  i have solved 2 blocks, but only 'solved 1' is listed on my account page.
2.  BTC Payout History has namecoins and bitcoins mixed in the same table, and same column.  i think it was ment to be same table, but not column
3.  the 'block stats' page has a block #222 - #223 as a 00:15:59 minute block, but it appears the actual time is about 32 minutes.
4.  the my_found_blocks.php page has the solved timestamp in a different timezone then the block stats page.  Can we make them both the same?
5.  the block stats page:  I believe some of the long blocks have the wrong percent amount for luck.  a 3020768 share block has red-7% but a 1953012 share block has red-18%
6.  email notification working? (might be the same reason I did not get forum email?)


requests:  (i know we dont have alot of time for enhancements, but asking anyway)
1.  on the account page, is it possible to turn off the tool tips?
2.  add block finder to the block stats page?
3.  add power in watts to the worker page?

Thanks for a great pool. 
Jim

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December 21, 2011, 05:05:39 AM
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Hello,
  Been at the pool for about 3 days...  working well Smiley

I have a couple of issues, tried to get into the forums, but did not receive email so I cant post.  will list issues here.


bugs:
1.  according to https://eclipsemc.com/my_found_blocks.php  i have solved 2 blocks, but only 'solved 1' is listed on my account page.

Hi Jim,

Welcome to the pool! 

Can you PM me your user name so that I can look into what's going on with that?

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2.  BTC Payout History has namecoins and bitcoins mixed in the same table, and same column.  i think it was ment to be same table, but not column

I will get this fixed tomorrow.

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3.  the 'block stats' page has a block #222 - #223 as a 00:15:59 minute block, but it appears the actual time is about 32 minutes.

Good catch.  I've corrected the bug going forward.  I need to run a test on fixing the bug with the current block list.  I will do that tomorrow when I have more time.

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4.  the my_found_blocks.php page has the solved timestamp in a different timezone then the block stats page.  Can we make them both the same?

Sure, I will try to get that done tomorrow as well.

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5.  the block stats page:  I believe some of the long blocks have the wrong percent amount for luck.  a 3020768 share block has red-7% but a 1953012 share block has red-18%

No, that is correct.  It is a percentile.  The 3 million at 7% means that 7% of the blocks will be more than 3020768 shares, whereas for the 1953012 share block, 18% of blocks will have more shares.  A few pages back there was a discussion on how to handle the luck display... I'm open to suggestions, but you might want to read those few posts where we discussed it.

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6.  email notification working? (might be the same reason I did not get forum email?)

Some people (myself included) seem to be having problems with block solve notifications (but strangely failed miner/payout/etc... notifications are working) - I will be addressing this issue tomorrow.  The one caveat to this is if you are using a Yahoo address.  Yahoo is such a clusterfuck that it's impossible to get them to fix problems - their mail server is horrible, their technical department is horrible... there is nothing good about Yahoo.  As such, emails to yahoo are typically delayed, usually forever... I'm working with them to get it fixed, but they are almost impossible to deal with.

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requests:  (i know we dont have alot of time for enhancements, but asking anyway)
1.  on the account page, is it possible to turn off the tool tips?
2.  add block finder to the block stats page?
3.  add power in watts to the worker page?

I will definitely see what I can do about turning tool-tips off.  It isn't that hard to code, but kind of tedious. Smiley

Can you elaborate on item 2?

Item 3 - you already can enter power in watts on the Manage Workers page (from the My Workers page, button is in the upper right).  Or do you mean something else?

Thanks for a great pool. 
Jim

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December 21, 2011, 05:07:01 AM
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I opened another instance of the getwork server on port 9009.  If some of you want to switch over to that port, that would be great.  We aren't having any problems at the moment, but I would like to head off any potential problems before they become an issue. 

So instead of connecting to port 8337, just use port 9009 and maybe set port 8337 as a backup.

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December 21, 2011, 06:14:14 AM
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Aside from the changes I've been making to some of the graphs and fixing small bugs, I have been working on getting PoolserverJ integrated into our system.  It's proving to be exceptionally difficult, primarily because there are not enough places to hook into the pluggable engine of PoolserverJ to accomodate DGM.  I have sent a PM to Shads, but have yet to hear back from him.  I would really like to avoid modifying the PSJ source directly, but it seems like that may be the direction I am headed if I end up going with PSJ.    It's either that or rewrite the whole DGM codebase completely (along with a number of other parts of the site) - this isn't off the table, but it's something I would like to avoid if possible.
I wonder if it will be easier to do some approximation of DGM with PSJ. I haven't figured out the details but shift-DGM should work, and might be possible depending on what you have to work with.

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December 21, 2011, 06:18:38 AM
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Joined (back after hiatus). Glad to see merged mining. Question: The website states that you charge only a fee for conversion of BTC to PayPal, implying that you do not charge for conversion of NMC to BTC, but the latter is not stated outright, and I wanted to double check. Do you, or do you use an exchange that does, charge a fee for that conversion?

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December 21, 2011, 09:08:25 AM
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I tried the cash out button but it doesn't seem to be functional. Is that not ready / on purpose or a bug? It takes me to an explanation page but the cash out button there does not work.

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December 21, 2011, 09:26:21 AM
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Seems like autopayout for BTC is not working. My payout lock is active?!? I don't recall making a manual payout or activating any payout lock..

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5.  the block stats page:  I believe some of the long blocks have the wrong percent amount for luck.  a 3020768 share block has red-7% but a 1953012 share block has red-18%

No, that is correct.  It is a percentile.  The 3 million at 7% means that 7% of the blocks will be more than 3020768 shares, whereas for the 1953012 share block, 18% of blocks will have more shares.  A few pages back there was a discussion on how to handle the luck display... I'm open to suggestions, but you might want to read those few posts where we discussed it.

2.  add block finder to the block stats page?
3.  add power in watts to the worker page?

I will definitely see what I can do about turning tool-tips off.  It isn't that hard to code, but kind of tedious. Smiley

Can you elaborate on item 2?

Item 3 - you already can enter power in watts on the Manage Workers page (from the My Workers page, button is in the upper right).  Or do you mean something else?




Thanks for looking into this stuff.  my username is the same as here.  jjiimm_64

I will have to read up on the 'luck' post before commenting on percents...

2 & 3.  Sorry for not being clear.
2.  can we add the user that found the block on the block stats page, I have to go back and forth from the my_found_blocks page to the stats page comparing which blocks I found. Which is what made me notice the different time zones on the timestamp.
3.  Yes I added the power in watts to each of my 14 workers, and that makes the Profitability column work, but it would be nice to see a little more info about Profitability.  One thing I thought of is to see the Total watts used in the Totals, so adding a small column of watts and totalling it would be nice.

thxs again.

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December 21, 2011, 05:17:40 PM
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So it looks like we have slight security issue on our hands.

In the interests of full disclosure, two people have notified me that their accounts have been drained, and looking at the audit logs, there is at least two more that this has happened to, but they have not contacted me. 

The breech occurred because of a brute force attack against the forum user database and possibly through other breached databases unrelated to EMC.  The breached accounts appear to have either used insecure passwords AND the passwords used on the forums were the same password used on the pool or used the same passwords from other sites that have been breached.

I want to be very clear on the fact that the pools security has not been compromised.  Your pool accounts appear to be secure, so long as you are using a unique, secure password for your pool account.  If you are using the same password for other sites, including the EMC forums, you should change your pool password immediately. 

The logs don't seem to indicate an exhaustive brute force attack against the forum accounts, which leads me to believe that the account names and/or passwords were obtained elsewhere and likely candidates were tried through both the forums and the pool to find easily accessible accounts.

While we do have a payout lock, in at least on instance, the wallet address was changed and the attacker logged in almost exactly 24 hours later and withdrew the funds.  EMC does everything it can to protect your account, but there are some things EMC can not protect against without making your account unusable.  I suggest that everyone activate payout lock and turn on Email and/or SMS notification for account changes and keep up with your email so that you will be alerted to any potential security threats with enough time to handle the problem. 

Your password should consist of a minimum of 10 characters.  Ideally it is a passphrase consisting of at least 4 words - the more uncommon the words the better.   Of course, using a program like KeePass or LastPass with a randomly generated high-entropy password is also a good solution, as well.  Your password should be unique and not used anywhere else. 



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