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[NetworkerZ]

Great THX! Will bring new cards into pool soon. (1x 5970 @ 920Mhz, 2x 5850, 1x 5830)

Greetz
NetworkerZ

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[stick_theman]

Hi Inaba, is there any parameter should be changed for miners?  My hashrate is down by a lot. Tks.

[Inaba]

Hi stick_theman,

Can you elaborate on your issue a little more?  When you say your hashrate is down a lot, what page are you looking at your hashrate at?  How much is it down by?   How many miners do you have?

What is your username on the pool?

[NetworkerZ]

Just another idea: You have a black background on the Account, My Workers etc sites. EXCEPT at the Block Stats. Perhaps you can add a black background there too? So you can read the stats much better. By the way: Even the design differes between Account and My Workers (look at the Links to FAQ, Mobil Worker etc and switch between Account and My W.)

Greetz
NetworkerZ

[Inaba]

There's a new value under the My Donation column, just under the amount you donated on a given block.  That value represents the average donation per block.  

So say for example the average is 0.4%, it means the net average donation per user is 0.4%.  Some users are donating more, others less, but the average is 0.4%.  

[Inaba]

How does that look, NetworkerZ?

[NetworkerZ]

Much better! THX!

Greetz
NetworkerZ

EDIT:
I think the Autopay doesn't work. I've 10,xxx BTC and no payout. Just look into my account: bitcoindigger

[Inaba]

Autopayout runs every 15 minutes.  I watched it run just now and it paid out your balance.  I think you were just in the window between payouts.

[NetworkerZ]

OK, I didn't know that the payout runs scripted every 15 minutes. Perhaps something for the FAQ.

Greetz
NetworkerZ

[JayCoin]

Is the same account generating the invalid blocks?  All the recent invalid blocks say private.

[NetworkerZ]

Funny, I thougt this too! It is a private, who comes and goes. When he is here he is the TOP 1 miner with 70 GHash!!! We should watch him ...

Greetz
NetworkerZ

[Inaba]

There are a number of people that have their profile set to private, it's not necessarily all the same person. The last 3 invalid have been found by different people.

Not sure what is up with the rash of invalids though.  We have approximately 90 concurrent connections, it's not like we are short on connections.

[jjshabadoo]

Could it have something to do with the new port 9009? I've tried to switch half my rigs to that port in order to help balance traffic.

Just kind of sucks to see all these invalid blocks in such a short period of time. Although we did find 13 blocks in one day, so hard to complain too much..lol

Hopefully we can figure out why this is happening (beyond just being random) and maybe some who mine at other pools can comment on whether its happening there more frequently as well.

[kano]

I guess the way to look at it is that we should not see another anytime soon.

The bad thing with such "bad luck" events is that past results don't affect future ones.

With the huge volume of blocks your pool finds can you give a probabilty of invalid blocks occuring in close succession based on your past results?

Among other statistical things, it's also dependent on the 'bitcoind' connection to the rest of the bitcoin network, the number of connections it has and also issues like the network delay from 'bitcoind' to those it's connected to.
It also doesn't help if the miner that generated the block is slow to notify the pool or the pool has ANY delay in notifying the 'bitcoind'
So basically, each pool will have different expectations.

Just in reply to the above post:
My "Among other statistical things" means of course the probability of 2 miners generating a block about the same time which is of course totally independent of the pool.
And of course to clarify something that anyone might be thinking (though hopefully not) there is no way for Inaba to take advantage of making an invalid block.
Either the block is valid and everyone (including Inaba) profits from it, or the block is invalid and no one profits from it until the next block.
The person who generated the Invalid can easily check if it was a real block so there would be no reason for any pool to pretend it was an Invalid
Aside: well easily if they use cgminer, I'm not sure how other miner programs notify you of block, but cgminer does with the block hash (I wrote that code )

Edit: yes of course this does fall directly into the area of bitcoin that is 'random probability'

[stoppots]

could someone better explain the "Timestamp" and "Received Time"
https://blockchain.info/block-height/162189

and also if anybody is familiar with the pool that has generated all these blocks, 150 or so
https://blockchain.info/ip-address/88.6.208.35

[Enigma81]

I just recently started mining a bit at your pool, and I do have one question..

I understand the double geometric scoring system, and I love the idea of it...

I am curious, though, why my prop-diff is quite often negative.  I'm not starting and stopping the rig, so I'm hashing continuously.  Shouldn't I be at 0 or higher?  What would cause me to get paid less than my share (proportional) if I'm not 'hopping' or taking breaks in mining?

Enigma

[kano]

could someone better explain the "Timestamp" and "Received Time"
https://blockchain.info/block-height/162189
...

Well "Timestamp" is most likely the timestamp in the block where as "Received Time" would probably be when blockchain.info were notified of the block.
You sometimes see when block explorers are offline, that when they come back online, there will be a bunch of blocks (that were generated while they were offline) that have the explorer's equivalent of "Received Time" around the time the explorer came back online.
Easy way to spot their downtimes

The catch with "Timestamp" is that it doesn't have to be accurate.
If you look at blocks generated by Eligius you will see that the timestamps are sometimes even an hour or more in the future.
I don't think any other pool has this feature/bug/crapcode issue but basically, the "Timestamp" isn't required to be accurate.

[kano]

I just recently started mining a bit at your pool, and I do have one question..

I understand the double geometric scoring system, and I love the idea of it...

I am curious, though, why my prop-diff is quite often negative.  I'm not starting and stopping the rig, so I'm hashing continuously.  Shouldn't I be at 0 or higher?  What would cause me to get paid less than my share (proportional) if I'm not 'hopping' or taking breaks in mining?

Enigma

Well according to Meni who designed DGM there should be no loss of BTC if you do switch your miner on and off ... or hop.
Just no gain either.

[Enigma81]

I just recently started mining a bit at your pool, and I do have one question..

I understand the double geometric scoring system, and I love the idea of it...

I am curious, though, why my prop-diff is quite often negative.  I'm not starting and stopping the rig, so I'm hashing continuously.  Shouldn't I be at 0 or higher?  What would cause me to get paid less than my share (proportional) if I'm not 'hopping' or taking breaks in mining?

Enigma

Well according to Meni who designed DGM there should be no loss of BTC if you do switch your miner on and off ... or hop.
Just no gain either.

Agreed, as long as I'm mining continuously (which I am), my understanding is that the worst case should be no difference from proportional.  Gains can be had if OTHER people stop mining during a block, letting their share dwindle.  That's why I don't understand the negative relationship to proportional in my case.

[Meni Rosenfeld]

I just recently started mining a bit at your pool, and I do have one question..

I understand the double geometric scoring system, and I love the idea of it...

I am curious, though, why my prop-diff is quite often negative.  I'm not starting and stopping the rig, so I'm hashing continuously.  Shouldn't I be at 0 or higher?  What would cause me to get paid less than my share (proportional) if I'm not 'hopping' or taking breaks in mining?

Enigma

If you've started recently what you're seeing is probably your score building up. Your score starts at 0 and as you continue mining it increases until it reaches an equilibrium (which changes if the pool's total hashrate changes). So at first you'll receive less than proportional, in equilibrium it will be roughly the same, and if you quit at any time your score will gradually decrease to 0 and you will keep receiving rewards for some time.