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Author Topic: [1200 TH] EMC: 0 Fee DGM. Anonymous PPS. US & EU servers. No Registration!  (Read 461876 times)
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September 09, 2011, 04:02:41 AM
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Still techinical imo, hybrid between pps and pplns? what's this?, If thats for the website you will have to make it more simple and treat them like they are completely new, assume they dont know any other payment method and just sell your own.

ran it by my friend and he actually tried but concluded with tl;dr.
Well, the tl;dr version is "For every share you submit, you will get on average exactly your fair reward, with lower variance than other methods."

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September 09, 2011, 06:03:41 AM
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Pool went down for a minute or two, then went down again. DDOS? Or pool and website updates?

Website now say "Could not connect: Too many connections".

Website back after 10 mins or so.  Smiley
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September 09, 2011, 07:19:45 AM
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dang it broke good  Sad
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September 09, 2011, 10:28:26 AM
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Somebody wake up Inaba
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September 09, 2011, 11:07:20 AM
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Is there a method to notify us when the pool is back up again? Or do I have to keep checking the website? I would really prefer to not have my shares decay once the pool comes back up again.

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September 09, 2011, 11:09:47 AM
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Uh, leave your miner running?
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September 09, 2011, 11:18:41 AM
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Uh, leave your miner running?

That's a waste of time and energy that could be used elsewhere in the meantime. The longer my miners sit idle, the potentially longer they may never pay themselves off. They need to be crunching 99.9% of the time 24/7

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September 09, 2011, 11:19:16 AM
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Is there a method to notify us when the pool is back up again? Or do I have to keep checking the website? I would really prefer to not have my shares decay once the pool comes back up again.

Use poclbm with backup pools. It'll go to a backup pool if the main one is down. If you used it you'd not be bothered if the pool was down, you'd just start mining elsewhere. Set and forget.

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September 09, 2011, 11:41:32 AM
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EMC has been down for over 5 hours now, so I guess under the new scoring system I loose all my rewards?
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September 09, 2011, 11:46:01 AM
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I don't really understand these things so I'll probably get jumped on for saying...

I think we'll pick up where we left off...

unless we spend too much time mining elsewhere.
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September 09, 2011, 11:46:34 AM
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EMC has been down for over 5 hours now, so I guess under the new scoring system I loose all my rewards?

scoring system is based on shares submitted not time elapsed so downtime won't have any effect on them.

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September 09, 2011, 12:01:56 PM
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EMC has been down for over 5 hours now, so I guess under the new scoring system I loose all my rewards?

If I understand correctly, you won't lose your rewards unless the pool comes back up again and everyone except you starts mining. This is because no (or in this case, very few) shares are being submitted. So the pool is kind of on "pause". I may be wrong, so someone please correct me if I am.

What kinda irks me is that some shares are still being submitted which is in fact eroding everyone elses rewards at the moment.

Is there a method to notify us when the pool is back up again? Or do I have to keep checking the website? I would really prefer to not have my shares decay once the pool comes back up again.

Use poclbm with backup pools. It'll go to a backup pool if the main one is down. If you used it you'd not be bothered if the pool was down, you'd just start mining elsewhere. Set and forget.

Is it possible to do this at all with phoenix? poclbm was too slow for me and so I stopped using it.  Also, any recommondations on a backup pool? I'd rather backup to a pool that won't let my shares decay after I leave them when Eclipse comes back online. lulz Oh, the hypocrisy!

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September 09, 2011, 12:08:25 PM
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Is it possible to do this at all with phoenix? poclbm was too slow for me and so I stopped using it.  Also, any recommondations on a backup pool? I'd rather backup to a pool that won't let my shares decay after I leave them when Eclipse comes back online. lulz Oh, the hypocrisy!

Don't know about phoenix - check the thread. As for backup I'd use PPS or a PPS variant double-g scored pool.

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September 09, 2011, 12:38:59 PM
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Well, I'm not sure why the getwork server crashed.  The one miner that was still mining was one of mine at 400 MH/s on a test server. 

Yes, it's correct that the pool is on "pause" if it goes down like that.  Shares do not decay and we pick up where we left off.  There's suppose to be a watchdog that brings it back up if that happens, but apparently that didn't work and I am looking into why.  I am no pleased about that.

Some of the new double geo code must have been the cause, as that's the only change, but I can't imagine why that would be.  I am also investigating that.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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September 09, 2011, 01:17:35 PM
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I think I found the bug that was causing the crash under some limited circumstances (which happened last night), so hopefully that shouldn't happen again. 

I also changed the way the watchdog behaves, though I'm not sure why that failed still.

If you're searching these lines for a point, you've probably missed it.  There was never anything there in the first place.
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September 09, 2011, 01:24:27 PM
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As for backup I'd use ... a PPS variant double-g scored pool.

lol

Did you change that because the pool boss just showed up?

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September 09, 2011, 01:27:48 PM
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As for backup I'd use ... a PPS variant double-g scored pool.

lol

Did you change that because the pool boss just showed up?

Ha! no, just thought about it a bit more.

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September 11, 2011, 11:24:01 AM
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Hey, we're back!
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September 11, 2011, 02:39:51 PM
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Really wish they'd get rid of this craptacular forum software Sad 

Solved a few blocks while we were away!

I have been vetting the numbers for DGS, and I think they are looking proper.  I just ran the last 4 blocks by Meni to make sure everything is calculating properly, so we shall see.  If so, I'll probably change it over after this current block.

I want to be up front and clear about it, though:

The first and second block after the change will see a lower than average payout for everyone as the scores slowly build up, as time goes on and blocks get solved, your payout will increase to what you expect (+ whatever we get from hoppers).  If you ever stop mining, your payout will slowly decrease (even if you aren't mining in the block) which will effectively even out what you did not make at the start of the new system. 

Additionally, as an incentive to remain in the pool, on long blocks (those that exceed the expected shares), your payout will be slightly more than you would normally expect and on short blocks (those that are less than the expected shares) your payout will be slightly less than you would expect. 

Looking at the numbers, it will take at least 5 or 6 blocks for the pool to normalize into a more or less steady state, so payouts will be "not quite right" in comparison to what you expect from proportional, or even the current geometric scoring.


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September 11, 2011, 02:57:47 PM
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With the difficulty about to go lower in the next couple days, hopefully those half dozen blocks won't take long.
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