Inaba (OP)
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July 30, 2011, 06:08:10 PM |
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Klaaster, I show your last share submitted: 2011-07-30 03:08:31
The block ended: 2011-07-30 07:27:21
All times are UTC
So your shares would have decayed fairly substantially by then.
Dacayed a bit inaccurate of a description, they just have less "value" than "current" shares. There's not a set time as to how long it takes a share to decay to zero, but rather it's based on how many shares were submitted after any given share. Each share is worth the value of the previous share + a variable amount based on difficulty and several other factors.
What this means is that any given share will be worth less as more shares are submitted. Once the round ends, the share scores are all added up and then the block value (in this case 50) is divided between everyone equally based on their share score. Those that submitted shares near or at the end of the round will have the highest value in terms of share score and thus get a larger proportion of the payout. Because the round ending is completely unpredictable, it's what keeps the pool hoppers from being able to gain an advantage and thus take away from the honest miners.
The downside is that it also has the effect on the honest miners that have difficulty during the round or for whatever reason are not able to "finish" the round with everyone else. Because pool hoppers take away such a large chunk of funds (more than 12% of the value in some cases) from the honest users, the most fair way to distribute the shares is through Meni's scoring system. It rewards everyone equally based on their contribution, regardless of whether or not they are pool hoppers.
If you would like the actual math behind it, there's several links in this thread to the discussion on Meni's scoring system and the math proof(s) to verify it.
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Transactions must be included in a block to be properly completed. When you send a transaction, it is broadcast to miners. Miners can then optionally include it in their next blocks. Miners will be more inclined to include your transaction if it has a higher transaction fee.
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WebMonkey
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July 31, 2011, 12:06:59 AM |
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i've fallen and i can't connect!
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GenTarkin
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July 31, 2011, 12:11:27 AM |
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yeah, website is down, but miners seem to be still goin...er?
oops not anymore, they just dropped.
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village.idiot
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July 31, 2011, 12:13:38 AM |
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hey, my backup pool works!
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GenTarkin
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July 31, 2011, 12:19:15 AM |
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hey, my backup pool works!
Yeah this is a good test to see if CGminer fails over properly =P |
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village.idiot
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July 31, 2011, 12:22:06 AM |
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hey, my backup pool works!
Yeah this is a good test to see if CGminer fails over properly =P I'll get to see if poclbm fails back |
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GenTarkin
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July 31, 2011, 12:26:30 AM |
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hey, my backup pool works!
Yeah this is a good test to see if CGminer fails over properly =P I'll get to see if poclbm fails back grr...seems my main miner hasnt failed over =( weird... |
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village.idiot
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July 31, 2011, 12:30:41 AM |
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mine's still on my backup pool.
I can't connect to the mining server or the website server.
I've been assuming they're separate servers.
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simonk83
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July 31, 2011, 12:38:27 AM |
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Yep, down here as well. Was connected to Deepbit for a backup but can't connect there now either...
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village.idiot
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July 31, 2011, 12:43:36 AM |
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Yep, down here as well. Was connected to Deepbit for a backup but can't connect there now either...
That's curious I'm mining on Eclipse and Triple and earlier today I wasn't connecting to either. I went to the office where my rig is to see what had happened and when I got there it was working just fine on both pools. I've got to learn that ssh thing. |
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GenTarkin
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July 31, 2011, 12:50:05 AM |
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YAY! CGminer did failover successfully to my backup pool...it just took like 10mins or so, must retry a lot.
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GenTarkin
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July 31, 2011, 12:56:03 AM |
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Seems EMC is back up my miner successfully failed back to it =)
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village.idiot
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July 31, 2011, 01:08:03 AM |
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Seems EMC is back up my miner successfully failed back to it =)
What he said |
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kr105
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July 31, 2011, 01:25:47 AM |
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Its working again  |
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Inaba (OP)
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July 31, 2011, 01:28:37 AM |
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Not sure what happened... mysql went nuts and was non-responsive.
It is fixed now... don't think it was anything I've been working on.
On the upside, I've added the ability to turn miner alerts on and off by miner and if you call now, I will throw in the ability to set the failed minutes per miner as well... ABSOLUTELY FREE!!
Sorry about the downtime folks, no warning on that one. I made some modifications to the getwork servers earlier as well, but they've been going fine for 6 or 7 hours.
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village.idiot
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July 31, 2011, 01:31:48 AM |
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On the upside, I've added the ability to turn miner alerts on and off by miner and if you call now, I will throw in the ability to set the failed minutes per miner as well... ABSOLUTELY FREE!!
COOL  Thanks |
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WebMonkey
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July 31, 2011, 01:55:46 AM |
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you're the coolest Inaba, thanks!
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kr105
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July 31, 2011, 08:56:59 PM |
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Yay! New block solved!  |
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simonk83
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July 31, 2011, 09:06:28 PM |
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Yay! New block solved! Yay Inaba, any ideas on how to make the estimated reward more accurate? It's a bit all over the place at the moment. My estimated reward for this block was supposedly .73, but I've received .66. The last block was supposed to be .6x but I received .76 I know it's a by product of the new scoring method, and I know it doesn't really matter in the long run as we get paid correctly, but it'd be nice to be able to see an accurate estimation. Ta  |
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GenTarkin
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July 31, 2011, 09:07:14 PM |
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weve been havin a few past days be pretty dry, lets hope for a lucky streak =P
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