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Author Topic: Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux)  (Read 3839122 times)
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November 18, 2016, 09:00:56 AM
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Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.
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November 18, 2016, 09:10:26 AM
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Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.


u can't get exact numbers .... there alot of miners and card mods and tweaks ... u can read thro this thread give it sometime .. numbers really varies
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November 18, 2016, 09:14:47 AM
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Hi, Im having trouble with nanopool's guide for speed results.....
My miner reads 560h/s to 565h/s however on nanopool 6hrs reads 510h/s and 2hrs to 24hrs not much different. Im losing about 50+h/s. Fees would be 2.5% which is about 15h/s. Does anyone else have this problem with nanapool under cutting or is it just me....

I had that problem, and others too. Moved to flypool and the problem was gone... Grin

sir in flypool if i setting i (intensity) more than 0, windows hang
any guide ?


edit :
now 0 also hang

Have you undervolted and overclocked?

I had something similar on my 390X rig, I used to use an optimized bios I had made for ETH, but anything even with -i 0 would hang the gpus within 30-60 seconds. now with the core at 1000mHz and the voltage at 1150mV it's rock stable.

I notice the same timings I used for Eth aren't that awesome with ZCash, too...

same here, using bios for zcash, good in nanopool, when switch to flypool, hang gpu stopped

Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/zcash-mining-calculator

the number always change based on btc/zec and zec diff , block reward, fee
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November 18, 2016, 09:18:30 AM
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Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.


u can't get exact numbers .... there alot of miners and card mods and tweaks ... u can read thro this thread give it sometime .. numbers really varies

Thanks. I mean there are these variables:

- network hashrate
- difficulty
- block reward
- altcoin price
- my own hashrate
- my own power consumption
- power kWh price

But I don't know how to calculate the actual profitability.

For example there is a calculator: www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/zec

How to (with which formula) calculate this application the actual profit?
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November 18, 2016, 09:35:21 AM
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Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.


u can't get exact numbers .... there alot of miners and card mods and tweaks ... u can read thro this thread give it sometime .. numbers really varies

Thanks. I mean there are these variables:

- network hashrate
- difficulty
- block reward
- altcoin price
- my own hashrate
- my own power consumption
- power kWh price

But I don't know how to calculate the actual profitability.

For example there is a calculator: www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/zec

How to (with which formula) calculate this application the actual profit?

It's very difficult to calculate profitability at any given moment because most variables change. The problem with any calculator is that they give you an amount for a particular configuration in a particular moment in time. For instance, cryptocompare currently says I should mine around 0.23ZEC/day, in reality, I'm closer to 0.19. Why? Because the hashrate isn't constant, because difficulty changes, because the price of the coin constantly changes. The only thing that doesn't change is my wattage and my price/kw.

I don't know the formula, but just mine some ZEC and see what your actual payout is on a pool over the course of a few days or hours then extrapolate. If you know your powercost, then just deduct it from what you made in ZEC and boom, there's your approximate profitability.
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November 18, 2016, 10:47:38 AM
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A mining datacenter sure seems to beat the returns from turning it into a living quarters and renting it out.
Yeah, make people homeless and power up the global warming.

What are you implying? No one is living there currently so I'm not actually making anyone homeless.
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November 18, 2016, 10:51:34 AM
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Hey Hotmetal, sorry if you have already mentioned this somewhere, what Make our your Cards?

I have 4 x Sapphire RX480 8GB Nitro+ and two of them have had the BIOS Modded on them from the Mod in this Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mwb67g4skGM&t=356s

I am finding that my H/s can fluctuate on my cards between 130 H/s and 154 H/s per Card, sometimes hitting a total of 612 H/s and sometime down in the 560 H/s

I have a 1600Watt PSU, but not as of yet overclocked the cards,

Just wondering if you have modded your cards at all? Also which variables are you using?

Sorry for all the questions, just want to try get me Hash Rate Stable and Running at the best it can be, (Electricity is also not an issue for me :-P)

I have the Sapphire RX480 8GB Nitro+. Use that bios as a starting point and increase the GPU speed.
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November 18, 2016, 10:55:54 AM
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h311m4n ----

 
what settings you use for the 390x? What they hashing each? have 6x390 and looking for an optimalisation.....

Ty in advanced...
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November 18, 2016, 11:15:08 AM
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Hi, Im having trouble with nanopool's guide for speed results.....
My miner reads 560h/s to 565h/s however on nanopool 6hrs reads 510h/s and 2hrs to 24hrs not much different. Im losing about 50+h/s. Fees would be 2.5% which is about 15h/s. Does anyone else have this problem with nanapool under cutting or is it just me....

I had that problem, and others too. Moved to flypool and the problem was gone... Grin

sir in flypool if i setting i (intensity) more than 0, windows hang
any guide ?


edit :
now 0 also hang

Have you undervolted and overclocked?

I had something similar on my 390X rig, I used to use an optimized bios I had made for ETH, but anything even with -i 0 would hang the gpus within 30-60 seconds. now with the core at 1000mHz and the voltage at 1150mV it's rock stable.

I notice the same timings I used for Eth aren't that awesome with ZCash, too...

same here, using bios for zcash, good in nanopool, when switch to flypool, hang gpu stopped

Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.

http://www.coinwarz.com/calculators/zcash-mining-calculator

the number always change based on btc/zec and zec diff , block reward, fee

I think those calculator give the right number (or very close to the right number) at certain moment or period of time (hours or days if the variables don't change much)...
Maybe there is the exact formula to calculate profitability of any coins... but I don't know it yet... base on those calculators (i use coinwarz calculator) at the price 0.103 BTC per zec the profitability of mining zec is still greater than eth or any other coins.. because the price of eth & some other coin that is close in profitability with zec are also decreasing.. I would switch to eth IF the price is below 0.09 BTC & the price of eth is around 0.014 or 0.015 btc..

https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_zec

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November 18, 2016, 11:27:41 AM
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RX 470 120 SOL Stream Processors, 2048
RX 480 120-125 SOL Stream Processors 2304

why not use all the resources of the card  Huh
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November 18, 2016, 11:31:44 AM
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165W per GPU. I don't care about power because we're in summer and I have a fairly large Solar PV on my house roof so electricity is "free".

ZEC - Total Speed: 820.584 H/s, Total Shares: 1441, Rejected: 16, Time: 00:31
ZEC: GPU0 164.059 H/s, GPU1 166.130 H/s, GPU2 162.493 H/s, GPU3 164.016 H/s, GPU4 163.886 H/s

memory: 2100, gpu 1400

Ok. As far You dont need take care of electricity bills or cooling cards is your life perfect. Smiley

Yup! I'm considering turning my garage into a small data center and throw some more PV panels on the roof to offset the electricity costs.
A mining datacenter sure seems to beat the returns from turning it into a living quarters and renting it out.

I bought a house and dropped 30 miners in it as tenants.  They pay for the rent 2-3 times over a month and don't bitch!  =)

4MW Data Center - I BUILT Tongue  - Full story below:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4789787.msg43227027#msg43227027
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November 18, 2016, 11:49:31 AM
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Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.

ZEC
Network hashrate: ~22 000 000 Sol/s
Your hashrate: 1000 Sol/s
Miner reward: 6.23 (current)
Blocks per day: 570

Your ZEC amount: 570 * 6.23 * 1000 / 22000000 = ~0.1614

Price: 0.1041 BTC per ZEC

In BTC: 0.1614 * 0.1041 = 0.0168 BTC per day.
In $: 0.0168 * 750$ = 12.6$

Power
Consumption: 0.800 kWh (for example, rx 470 4GB 1260/1850, 1.05V - about 135 Watt, 1160/1850, 0.95V - about 105 Watt per card)
Price: 0.05$ per kW
Day cost: 0.800 * 24 * 0.05 = 0.96$

Total
12.6 - 0.96 = 11.64 $ per day

P.S. You can calculate actual miner reward from block number:

Code:
min(12.5, 625e-6 * blockNumber * 0.8)

P.P.S. You can use: https://explorer.zcha.in/
or https://api.zcha.in/v1/mainnet/network for actual data
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November 18, 2016, 11:50:59 AM
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RX 470 120 SOL Stream Processors, 2048
RX 480 120-125 SOL Stream Processors 2304

why not use all the resources of the card  Huh
The rx 480 does 140-145

btc: 183ZdPA9c5XkGgacaN9q7aJY93asV2BnKt
eth: 0x144c3b9d9c3c6e465d4cfe136d318440e81bb39e
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November 18, 2016, 12:13:11 PM
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Seem there is a pause in speed competition...
or maybe this competition is over and we won't see the speed increase again?

I hope not...  Grin



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November 18, 2016, 12:23:57 PM
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RX 470 120 SOL Stream Processors, 2048
RX 480 120-125 SOL Stream Processors 2304

why not use all the resources of the card  Huh
RX480 8GB (11260-01-20G) memory strap changed...deff clocks / 1V = 156-161 sol

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W7x64 / 16.9.2 driver
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November 18, 2016, 12:24:06 PM
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Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.

ZEC
Network hashrate: ~22 000 000 Sol/s
Your hashrate: 1000 Sol/s
Miner reward: 6.23 (current)
Blocks per day: 570

Your ZEC amount: 570 * 6.23 * 1000 / 22000000 = ~0.1614

Price: 0.1041 BTC per ZEC

In BTC: 0.1614 * 0.1041 = 0.0168 BTC per day.
In $: 0.0168 * 750$ = 12.6$

Power
Consumption: 0.800 kWh (for example, rx 470 4GB 1260/1850, 1.05V - about 135 Watt, 1160/1850, 0.95V - about 105 Watt per card)
Price: 0.05$ per kW
Day cost: 0.800 * 24 * 0.05 = 0.96$

Total
12.6 - 0.96 = 11.64 $ per day

P.S. You can calculate actual miner reward from block number:

Code:
min(12.5, 625e-6 * blockNumber * 0.8)

P.P.S. You can use: https://explorer.zcha.in/
or https://api.zcha.in/v1/mainnet/network for actual data

Wow, thank you very much for the step-by-step answer Smiley

I still don't know how the mining difficulty is related to the calculation. Or I don't need to deal with that? It depends on the network hashrate and I need to count only with that?
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November 18, 2016, 12:25:34 PM
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Linux version will be available in 1-2 days.
Is the linux version available yet?
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November 18, 2016, 12:29:56 PM
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Can somebody please help me what is the exact formula to count ZEC mining profitability?

I know there are many calculators but I want to be sure they tell me the right numbers.

ZEC
Network hashrate: ~22 000 000 Sol/s
Your hashrate: 1000 Sol/s
Miner reward: 6.23 (current)
Blocks per day: 570

Your ZEC amount: 570 * 6.23 * 1000 / 22000000 = ~0.1614

Price: 0.1041 BTC per ZEC

In BTC: 0.1614 * 0.1041 = 0.0168 BTC per day.
In $: 0.0168 * 750$ = 12.6$

Power
Consumption: 0.800 kWh (for example, rx 470 4GB 1260/1850, 1.05V - about 135 Watt, 1160/1850, 0.95V - about 105 Watt per card)
Price: 0.05$ per kW
Day cost: 0.800 * 24 * 0.05 = 0.96$

Total
12.6 - 0.96 = 11.64 $ per day

P.S. You can calculate actual miner reward from block number:

Code:
min(12.5, 625e-6 * blockNumber * 0.8)

P.P.S. You can use: https://explorer.zcha.in/
or https://api.zcha.in/v1/mainnet/network for actual data

Wow, thank you very much for the step-by-step answer Smiley

I still don't know how the mining difficulty is related to the calculation. Or I don't need to deal with that? It depends on the network hashrate and I need to count only with that?

the diff must be counted if the nethash isn't reflecting it because it has changed before the diff adapted, in fact with that calculation, you may have some wrong result some times, because of this

so for example, if the diff is 1000 and net 1000, but then the nethash change to 900 but diff is still 1000 because the diff retarget is not so fast and in any case is not instant

then you will not earn more because the nethash(900, before was 1000) is lower, but you will end up with the same profit
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November 18, 2016, 12:30:43 PM
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Linux version will be available in 1-2 days.
Is the linux version available yet?


NEVER!
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November 18, 2016, 12:35:22 PM
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RX 470 120 SOL Stream Processors, 2048
RX 480 120-125 SOL Stream Processors 2304

why not use all the resources of the card  Huh
The rx 480 does 140-145

Power usage vs hash rate.
Lower rate and much lower power usage may result in higher netto profit.
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