Bitcoin Forum
November 19, 2017, 05:57:02 AM *
News: Latest stable version of Bitcoin Core: 0.15.1  [Torrent].
 
   Home   Help Search Donate Login Register  
Pages: « 1 ... 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 [106] 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 ... 2138 »
  Print  
Author Topic: Swedish ASIC miner company kncminer.com  (Read 3007667 times)
Rampion
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1106


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:10:46 PM
 #2101

Yeah I'm sub 200 pre-order and +1000 order (paid). I guess we'll see in the next few days once pre-order's expire.

I sent an email to Sam at KnCMiner a day ago and still haven't heard back.  It would be really nice to find this information out.  If my pre-order number is my place in line, then I am very confused because I ordered a 1-500 Jupiter.  How can I be the 17## place in line for 500 units, unless they are over-selling like crazy!  Seems that it goes both ways since your pre-order number is sub 200, but your order number is +1000.  Makes me very nervous to make a $7000+ payment when the order number and the pre-order numbers don't make sense!

I think I explained this 10 times already

they had two queues.   the pre-reg and the current placed orders.

you get a 1-500 by your place in the first queue

the second queue started as soon as they took orders.  anyone can place orders. after 7 days, they will sort out the 1-500 customers that placed orders..  if there are any 1-500 customers that didn't use their orders, some of the regular orders will go into the 1-500




So... Paid order n. 1 gets tossed to let's say 945 after seven daysif he hadn't an unpaid preorder?

It may be, but it's awkward and messed up. Many people may complain, whatever they do.

It's messy.

1511071022
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511071022

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511071022
Reply with quote  #2

1511071022
Report to moderator
1511071022
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511071022

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511071022
Reply with quote  #2

1511071022
Report to moderator
Join ICO Now Coinlancer is Disrupting the Freelance marketplace!
Advertised sites are not endorsed by the Bitcoin Forum. They may be unsafe, untrustworthy, or illegal in your jurisdiction. Advertise here.
1511071022
Hero Member
*
Offline Offline

Posts: 1511071022

View Profile Personal Message (Offline)

Ignore
1511071022
Reply with quote  #2

1511071022
Report to moderator
DPoS
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462



View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:16:57 PM
 #2102

Yeah I'm sub 200 pre-order and +1000 order (paid). I guess we'll see in the next few days once pre-order's expire.

I sent an email to Sam at KnCMiner a day ago and still haven't heard back.  It would be really nice to find this information out.  If my pre-order number is my place in line, then I am very confused because I ordered a 1-500 Jupiter.  How can I be the 17## place in line for 500 units, unless they are over-selling like crazy!  Seems that it goes both ways since your pre-order number is sub 200, but your order number is +1000.  Makes me very nervous to make a $7000+ payment when the order number and the pre-order numbers don't make sense!

I think I explained this 10 times already

they had two queues.   the pre-reg and the current placed orders.

you get a 1-500 by your place in the first queue

the second queue started as soon as they took orders.  anyone can place orders. after 7 days, they will sort out the 1-500 customers that placed orders..  if there are any 1-500 customers that didn't use their orders, some of the regular orders will go into the 1-500




So... Paid order n. 1 gets tossed to let's say 945 after seven daysif he hadn't an unpaid preorder?

It may be, but it's awkward and messed up. Many people may complain, whatever they do.

It's messy.


I agree..  but they would of had to actually hire a real web dev crew to hash up some code to maintain two order flows.  Nothing too hard; the 1-500 would retain their original place until 7 day toss out and all the others would of started at 501.

they didn't anticipate how anal everyone would be over this which is a mark against them for not really knowing their customer base  Undecided

~~BTC~~GAMBIT~~BTC~~Play Boardgames for Bitcoins!!~~BTC~~GAMBIT~~BTC~~ Something I say help? Donate BTC! 1KN1K1xStzsgfYxdArSX4PEjFfcLEuYhid
wowc8
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 67


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:17:01 PM
 #2103


I think I explained this 10 times already

they had two queues.   the pre-reg and the current placed orders.

you get a 1-500 by your place in the first queue

the second queue started as soon as they took orders.  anyone can place orders. after 7 days, they will sort out the 1-500 customers that placed orders..  if there are any 1-500 customers that didn't use their orders, some of the regular orders will go into the 1-500


This still doesn't make sense.  From my knowledge only people who signed up during the pre-reg can put in an order for a 1-500 Jupiter, but they allowed more than 1700 people pre-reg.  So I guess this means that since I am number 1700+, there is a "chance" that I will not receive the 1-500 Jupiter and the only way to find out if my order of a 1-500 unit is really a 1-500 unit is to pay and wait on them to sort this out.

I guess there is no way to tell then if I will be in getting a 1-500 Jupiter.

WDC: WbKQxmmJJTxTi9kFQ8JSDX4aAui1V6kN9H BTC: 13EosxXnBbkjfWrH85APkWp4RFLHiu9qys
wowc8
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 67


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:19:00 PM
 #2104

I agree..  but they would of had to actually hire a real web dev crew to hash up some code to maintain two order flows.  Nothing too hard; the 1-500 would retain their original place until 7 day toss out and all the others would of started at 501.

they didn't anticipate how anal everyone would be over this which is a mark against them for not really knowing their customer base  Undecided

Hey, I'll be as anal as I want to be, jk.  Lot of money at stake Smiley.

WDC: WbKQxmmJJTxTi9kFQ8JSDX4aAui1V6kN9H BTC: 13EosxXnBbkjfWrH85APkWp4RFLHiu9qys
ultrix
Full Member
***
Offline Offline

Activity: 125


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:21:00 PM
 #2105

Wondering why no one has commented on ORSoC and their OpenRISC ASIC project and its subsequent status.
Tigggger
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1051



View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:25:11 PM
 #2106

It certainly is messy and I think having pre-orders like #17xx is confusing people, and I can't see how a 1-500 could have one that high.

From what I've read, they said they would match up pre-orders with email addresses so you retain your place in the queue

The pre-order number is the highest you will be, any numbers below you that don't pay within 7 days move you up

So
If you have pre-order #100 and 50 people above you don't pay you move to #50
If you have pre-order #1700 and 500 people above you don't pay you move to #1200

If you haven't pre-ordered, then you go to the end of the queue, so if there are 1000 paid pre-orders paid you are #1001

DPoS
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462



View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:26:18 PM
 #2107


I think I explained this 10 times already

they had two queues.   the pre-reg and the current placed orders.

you get a 1-500 by your place in the first queue

the second queue started as soon as they took orders.  anyone can place orders. after 7 days, they will sort out the 1-500 customers that placed orders..  if there are any 1-500 customers that didn't use their orders, some of the regular orders will go into the 1-500


This still doesn't make sense.  From my knowledge only people who signed up during the pre-reg can put in an order for a 1-500 Jupiter, but they allowed more than 1700 people pre-reg.  So I guess this means that since I am number 1700+, there is a "chance" that I will not receive the 1-500 Jupiter and the only way to find out if my order of a 1-500 unit is really a 1-500 unit is to pay and wait on them to sort this out.

I guess there is no way to tell then if I will be in getting a 1-500 Jupiter.

if you could pick the 1-500 item then you are in the first 500.  your order number doesnt mean a whole lot unless you are not in the 1-500 and hoping to get into the 1-500


~~BTC~~GAMBIT~~BTC~~Play Boardgames for Bitcoins!!~~BTC~~GAMBIT~~BTC~~ Something I say help? Donate BTC! 1KN1K1xStzsgfYxdArSX4PEjFfcLEuYhid
wowc8
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 67


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:27:57 PM
 #2108

It certainly is messy and I think having pre-orders like #17xx is confusing people, and I can't see how a 1-500 could have one that high.

From what I've read, they said they would match up pre-orders with email addresses so you retain your place in the queue

The pre-order number is the highest you will be, any numbers below you that don't pay within 7 days move you up

So
If you have pre-order #100 and 50 people above you don't pay you move to #50
If you have pre-order #1700 and 500 people above you don't pay you move to #1200

If you haven't pre-ordered, then you go to the end of the queue, so if there are 1000 paid pre-orders paid you are #1001


Right, this is exactly how I'm reading it too.

The product that I think I'm paying for may later turn out to be not the product I paid for.

WDC: WbKQxmmJJTxTi9kFQ8JSDX4aAui1V6kN9H BTC: 13EosxXnBbkjfWrH85APkWp4RFLHiu9qys
Rampion
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1106


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:28:34 PM
 #2109


I think I explained this 10 times already

they had two queues.   the pre-reg and the current placed orders.

you get a 1-500 by your place in the first queue

the second queue started as soon as they took orders.  anyone can place orders. after 7 days, they will sort out the 1-500 customers that placed orders..  if there are any 1-500 customers that didn't use their orders, some of the regular orders will go into the 1-500


This still doesn't make sense.  From my knowledge only people who signed up during the pre-reg can put in an order for a 1-500 Jupiter, but they allowed more than 1700 people pre-reg.  So I guess this means that since I am number 1700+, there is a "chance" that I will not receive the 1-500 Jupiter and the only way to find out if my order of a 1-500 unit is really a 1-500 unit is to pay and wait on them to sort this out.

I guess there is no way to tell then if I will be in getting a 1-500 Jupiter.

if you could pick the 1-500 item then you are in the first 500.  your order number doesnt mean a whole lot unless you are not in the 1-500 and hoping to get into the 1-500



Have you heard of anyone not being in the 1-500? Pretty much everybody could see that on the Web regardless of their order number, right? Or I'm mistaken?

wowc8
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 67


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:30:38 PM
 #2110

if you could pick the 1-500 item then you are in the first 500.  your order number doesnt mean a whole lot unless you are not in the 1-500 and hoping to get into the 1-500

There is more to it than that.  Everything about my order says that it is one of the 1-500 Jupiter units, but the pre-order number does not reflect my order within the first 500.

WDC: WbKQxmmJJTxTi9kFQ8JSDX4aAui1V6kN9H BTC: 13EosxXnBbkjfWrH85APkWp4RFLHiu9qys
wowc8
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 67


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:32:21 PM
 #2111

Have you heard of anyone not being in the 1-500? Pretty much everybody could see that on the Web regardless of their order number, right? Or I'm mistaken?

As an experiment, I created a new account with a different email.  The products page does not allow the new account to order a 1-500 unit.  So only people that pre-registered back in April can make orders for the first batch.

It could be that I'm blowing this out of proportion, but IMO this is a big deal especially for a company charging $7000+ for their products.

WDC: WbKQxmmJJTxTi9kFQ8JSDX4aAui1V6kN9H BTC: 13EosxXnBbkjfWrH85APkWp4RFLHiu9qys
koopa
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 61



View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:35:50 PM
 #2112

Hi all,

I still have three pre-orders for sale from the 1st batch <500. My pre-orders are all numbered 20X.  Grin

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=226031.0

Cheers,

koopa

Grin
Tigggger
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1051



View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:36:33 PM
 #2113

There is more to it than that.  Everything about my order says that it is one of the 1-500 Jupiter units, but the pre-order number does not reflect my order within the first 500.

So you pre-ordered and got an email that said

Order ID: 17xx
The desired goods: KNC Bitcoin miner numbers 1-500
Quantity: 1
Name of the customer: wowc8
...

?

If so, I agree how can there be 17xx pre-orders for the first 500

Probably best to email knc to ask them, I think we are all just making it more confusing Smiley

(I have an sub #500 number so not affected, but curious)

DPoS
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 462



View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:38:45 PM
 #2114

There is more to it than that.  Everything about my order says that it is one of the 1-500 Jupiter units, but the pre-order number does not reflect my order within the first 500.

So you pre-ordered and got an email that said

Order ID: 17xx
The desired goods: KNC Bitcoin miner numbers 1-500
Quantity: 1
Name of the customer: wowc8
...

?

If so, I agree how can there be 17xx pre-orders for the first 500

Probably best to email knc to ask them, I think we are all just making it more confusing Smiley

(I have an sub #500 number so not affected, but curious)


I've said it too many times.. let knc say it

the pre-orders groups ALL orders.   the pre-reg is what matters to get the 1-500. and yes plenty of folks do not see the 1-500.  They were chatty until they realized it and that why you dont hear much about them

now we just have a lot of 1-500 folks who are scared of the high pre-order numbers being doled out


~~BTC~~GAMBIT~~BTC~~Play Boardgames for Bitcoins!!~~BTC~~GAMBIT~~BTC~~ Something I say help? Donate BTC! 1KN1K1xStzsgfYxdArSX4PEjFfcLEuYhid
Rampion
Legendary
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 1106


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:47:44 PM
 #2115

Somebody quote me, I've the feeling they will say... First paid, first shipped. This thing is too messy, there are people with preorder ID 2700 who could order a 1-500.

Lets see.

wowc8
Member
**
Offline Offline

Activity: 67


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:49:17 PM
 #2116

Somebody quote me, I've the feeling they will say... First paid, first shipped. This thing is too messy, there are people with preorder ID 2700 who could order a 1-500.

Lets see.

I sent them an email 24 hours ago with this question.  When they respond I'll post on here.

WDC: WbKQxmmJJTxTi9kFQ8JSDX4aAui1V6kN9H BTC: 13EosxXnBbkjfWrH85APkWp4RFLHiu9qys
OgonDark
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 31



View Profile WWW
June 06, 2013, 11:52:37 PM
 #2117

There is more to it than that.  Everything about my order says that it is one of the 1-500 Jupiter units, but the pre-order number does not reflect my order within the first 500.

So you pre-ordered and got an email that said

Order ID: 17xx
The desired goods: KNC Bitcoin miner numbers 1-500
Quantity: 1
Name of the customer: wowc8
...

?

If so, I agree how can there be 17xx pre-orders for the first 500

Probably best to email knc to ask them, I think we are all just making it more confusing Smiley

(I have an sub #500 number so not affected, but curious)

So, I had the same confusion and emailed Sam after paying for my order.  I was in the 1-500, but my order# when I paid was 9XX.  This is the email I received back:

Quote
Hi XXXXX,
 
Your order number is irrelevant as we are basing your shipping queue number on the placement you received when you made your pre order. In your case the queue number is 4XX.
We are not able to give you your exact queue number until the 7 days payment window has closed. However, as far as we can see everyone who has paid within the first 7 days will be shipped in September/October.
 
I hope this answers your questions.
 
Thanks
Sam

It makes sense to me, your pre-order number is different than your Order number.  If you were allowed to order a 1-500 machine you should be able to find a pre-order # from when you first signed up, that is your actual place in the queue, subject to moving up after the 7 day window is closed and they toss out pre-orders that didn't pay.



Look for our private Hedge Fund to open to the World soon!
optimator
Sr. Member
****
Offline Offline

Activity: 347



View Profile WWW
June 06, 2013, 11:53:27 PM
 #2118

Somebody quote me, I've the feeling they will say... First paid, first shipped. This thing is too messy, there are people with preorder ID 2700 who could order a 1-500.

Lets see.

I just want to say, that my orders were a mess for a variety of reasons. I email knc and explained the situation.

They were a) prompt in their response; b) professional in their communication; and c) quickly resolved the issue.

There is no doubt that the order book may be messy, but I am fully confident that they will make every effort to queue all order in a fair way based on what they have previously communicated.

Cheers!


JollyGood!
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 37


View Profile
June 06, 2013, 11:53:50 PM
 #2119

I guess the preorder ID is worth nothing.  The order numbers of the time they opened the payments are clearly different.


It's a disaster
OgonDark
Jr. Member
*
Offline Offline

Activity: 31



View Profile WWW
June 07, 2013, 12:04:46 AM
 #2120

I guess the preorder ID is worth nothing.  The order numbers of the time they opened the payments are clearly different.


It's a disaster

Messy maybe.  But it seems like they have a system that isn't too hard to understand.  Pre-order does matter, it is used to determine your placement in the queue.

Examples:

Pre-Order #1 pays for his Jupiter today.  He is in the 7 day window, he will always be #1 in the shipping queue.  Even if Pre-Order #2 paid before him.

Pre-Order #501 pays for his Jupiter today.  He is in the 7 day window, he will be no worse than #501 to be shipped, unless someone with a lower Pre-Order number fails to pay.

Seems relatively easy to understand once I got that confirmation directly from KnC 


Look for our private Hedge Fund to open to the World soon!
Pages: « 1 ... 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 [106] 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 ... 2138 »
  Print  
 
Jump to:  

Sponsored by , a Bitcoin-accepting VPN.
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!