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June 09, 2013, 03:18:18 PM
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Please remind me what is the advantage of being in the 1-500 pre-order group? Did KNC not say that these units will be built in one go, i.e, not in batches?


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June 09, 2013, 03:25:55 PM
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Please remind me what is the advantage of being in the 1-500 pre-order group? Did KNC not say that these units will be built in one go, i.e, not in batches?

yes, there are no batches for KNC.) only advantage is, that you will get lower number in queue..
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June 09, 2013, 03:34:50 PM
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Please remind me what is the advantage of being in the 1-500 pre-order group? Did KNC not say that these units will be built in one go, i.e, not in batches?

yes, there are no batches for KNC.) only advantage is, that you will get lower number in queue..

And hopefully faster shipping  Wink.
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June 09, 2013, 03:44:55 PM
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And hopefully faster shipping  Wink.

uhh, I paid 120$ for ship package from Sweden to Czech Republic. So hopefully, there will be no shipping issue/delay at all.)

otherwise, September promise seems little bit aggressive to me. I expect first units at October..
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June 09, 2013, 03:52:16 PM
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Please remind me what is the advantage of being in the 1-500 pre-order group? Did KNC not say that these units will be built in one go, i.e, not in batches?

yes, there are no batches for KNC.) only advantage is, that you will get lower number in queue..

And hopefully faster shipping  Wink.

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June 09, 2013, 03:54:08 PM
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Please remind me what is the advantage of being in the 1-500 pre-order group? Did KNC not say that these units will be built in one go, i.e, not in batches?

yes, there are no batches for KNC.) only advantage is, that you will get lower number in queue..

The pragmatic approach is to wait to see if they start shipping. After all, KnC are promising a production line. The risk, of course, is that one "misses the boat". However, besides the obvious advantage that one does not risk one's hard earned [insert currency symbol here], there's another benefit too; if all these companies do actually manage to deliver ASICS in the autumn, then mining difficulty is going to rise exponentially. So by waiting, one will be able to more easily judge whether the ROI is worthwhile....

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June 09, 2013, 03:58:22 PM
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just paid my 2. order yesterday via Bitpay, Status says New (not paid) -.-
anyone have the same problem?
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June 09, 2013, 03:59:44 PM
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just paid my 2. order yesterday via Bitpay, Status says New (not paid) -.-
anyone have the same problem?

no worries, it will take couple of minutes (~15) for change status to paid.
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June 09, 2013, 04:00:28 PM
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1280 Minutes ....
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June 09, 2013, 04:02:02 PM
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1280 Minutes ....

Its updated manually..

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June 09, 2013, 04:04:49 PM
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the first payment was completed in 1 - 2 minutes , so i thought it is automatic
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June 09, 2013, 04:13:32 PM
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the first payment was completed in 1 - 2 minutes , so i thought it is automatic

Well if it isn't, and it is manual, it is also a Sunday and they have another big day tomo.

I'm waiting on a response as well. So may well be a deserved r&r day...

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June 09, 2013, 05:46:28 PM
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the first payment was completed in 1 - 2 minutes , so i thought it is automatic

Well if it isn't, and it is manual, it is also a Sunday and they have another big day tomo.

I'm waiting on a response as well. So may well be a deserved r&r day...

will you share, as the top contributor about KNC topics, Q/A from tomorrow openday?.)
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June 09, 2013, 05:53:12 PM
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the first payment was completed in 1 - 2 minutes , so i thought it is automatic

Well if it isn't, and it is manual, it is also a Sunday and they have another big day tomo.

I'm waiting on a response as well. So may well be a deserved r&r day...

will you share, as the top contributor about KNC topics, Q/A from tomorrow openday?.)

Yup, of course. I'm almost finished compiling the questions now. Stupidly I've decided to trawl through the old posts in the thread a bit as well. Lost one member's name that gave some good q's...what to give credit, where credit's due!

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June 09, 2013, 06:10:46 PM
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Okay guys a head's up, these are the questions for tomorrow. You have about an hour to PM anything else you want asked before I try and put my head down so I may awake bright-eyed and bushy-tailed!

Note: I've slept like 7 hours these past two days due to some crazy physical work I've undertaken, so i'm making sure I get an early night!!

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KnC Mon 10/06 Openday Bitcointalk Member Questions


ChipGeek

Note: These questions come from a guy (me) that has worked in (non bitcoin) ASIC design companies for over 25 years so my focus is from that perspective.

My questions are:

1) Is your ASIC design a hardcopy of the existing FPGA design or is it a semi-custom standard cell design?  (They've said "standard cell" before but other information makes it look like hardcopy.)

2) Have you done a (semi-) custom ASIC design of this complexity before?  Have you taken wafers through all of the post-fab production steps: wafer test, bumping, packaging, package test and binning?

3) Are you doing pre-package wafer test?

4) Are you doing post-packaging testing on a real production tester (Teradyne or similar)?

5) (This question only makes sense if they are NOT doing hardcopy.)  Is your package the same as the FPGA package or a custom one?  If custom, have you done custom packages before?


ElGabo

How many miners will you able to produce a day? Not exactly, their realistic perceived capacity + - 10%.

retro72

1) Did they design the Mars chips or buy them off the shelf?

2) They seemed to imply they were Altera chips. Did they design them for Altera?

3) If they did not design the chips, how is the Mars prototype relevant to the asic designs?

4) Did they design and fab the PCB?

5) Is the software they developed for the Mars, directly applicable to the asics?

6) What problems did they actually run into with the Mars?

7) Have these been solved?

8)Do they translate/ have any bearing on the asic design?

9) Did they learn anything significant from these issues?

10) They seem to be significantly cheaper than all the other options out there. Why is this?

11) Will their prices be fixed, or will they follow the trends in the BTC price/ROI?

12) Will the prices be raised after this initial pre-order period or are these the final RRP?


wowc8

1) I would love to know if they have a date set for when we can see one of their ASIC units hashing like the video they posted about Mars.

2) If their plan for shipping Jupiters is indeed the end of September, then they should have a working product soon, I would hope, for all of us to see.  There was some mention about them not needing to prototype these units, but I would think that they should at least have an idea when the first one will be fully manufactured and ready to present.


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Not sure who asked the following:

I'd ask the attendees on Monday to start to get some questions tied to dates on the calendar.  Such as: When will chips be ordered to meet September deadline?  How long will is the queue from the manufacturer once the chips are order (ie: 8-10 weeks?)  If 8-10 week lead time needed to get in queue from manufacturer what date will KNC be placing order?  Etc...

It would benefit us as pre-order "investors" to have dates of the process on the calendar so we can hold the company to their word.  This sets up check points we can all look to along the next 3 months.  Otherwise we're at the mercy of News updates and a lot of times those come in reaction to criticism (lack of updates) from the community versus anything else.

We need to be proactive versus reactive in this pre-order process.  We're trusting our coins

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June 09, 2013, 07:01:33 PM
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I paid my pre-order two days ago with paypal,but status of my order is new(payed).i am not sure what does that means?
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June 09, 2013, 07:19:39 PM
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I paid my pre-order two days ago with paypal,but status of my order is new(payed).i am not sure what does that means?

same at my payment at monday 3th.june, but Sam said to me, that this is ok
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June 09, 2013, 07:28:35 PM
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Okay, Q submission is over I need to catch some Zzz's (and still pack!)

In any case, for what it's worth. Did KS private message me any of his burning criticisms or questions that he cares so much about resolving on behalf of everybody here??

Nope.

Not entirely unpredictable, still he was given an entire week of encouragement and chances.

If he really gave a damn he would have, everyone else that wanted to has.

Clearly his agenda is purely trolling...

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June 09, 2013, 07:35:59 PM
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Okay, Q submission is over I need to catch some Zzz's (and still pack!)

In any case, for what it's worth. Did KS private message me any of his burning criticisms or questions that he cares so much about resolving on behalf of everybody here??

Nope.

Not entirely unpredictable, still he was given an entire week of encouragement and chances.

If he really gave a damn he would have, everyone else that wanted to has.

Clearly his agenda is purely trolling...

Good luck!

Fun fun

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June 09, 2013, 07:44:22 PM
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Okay, Q submission is over I need to catch some Zzz's (and still pack!)

In any case, for what it's worth. Did KS private message me any of his burning criticisms or questions that he cares so much about resolving on behalf of everybody here??

Nope.

Not entirely unpredictable, still he was given an entire week of encouragement and chances.

If he really gave a damn he would have, everyone else that wanted to has.

Clearly his agenda is purely trolling...

Good luck!

Fun fun

Thanks bud, I promise to add the answers asap, but i will prob stay the night in Stockholm. Wink

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