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The idea of God, gods, spirits, etc, exist in people's minds because that what they grew up believing. Children take up their parents religions because they were brought up believing it. Only in adulthood does it become possible for them to switch (often with great difficulty). Most of the time the switch is to a different sect. Switching to a totally different religion I usually see those in prisoners or those marrying out of their religious group. Completely letting go of religion is a bit rarer, especially since it's quite uncomfortable if you've been religious all your life.
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April 20, 2017, 08:48:32 PM |
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There never was a burden of proof on me. However, the proof is shown in the links above. Now, rebut with rebuttal, and explain how the rebuttal is a rebuttal, point by point. If you don't, it will be known that the things you say are hogwash. Your credibility is getting smaller all the time. Do you even have any left. Keep it up. We like it. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Your losing it.... You have made a claim and now you need to prove it. You claim your god is real.... well prove it. The burden of prove is with you. If you can show proof then I will disprove it. You have no credibility and that is hurting you. Since you are unwilling to take the time to understand the proof, there is no way to prove it to you. However, that is your doing... remaining in ignorance. This does not mean that the proof doesn't exist. It simply means that you are unwilling or unable to except it. As I said in another post: Imagine that big bang theory were proven to be factual. Then, suppose that you read the proof, which included all the math in the theory. Do you understand the math of big bang theory? Maybe. But if you don't, big bang has not been proven for you.
The fact that you suggest that there is no proof for the existence of God, simply shows how mentally inept you are. If you had said, "I don't understand the proof, therefore there isn't any proof for me," you would be showing yourself to be honest, maybe. At least you would be a lot closer to honesty than the way you are treating the situation.
But if you say, "I understand the so-called proof, and have found it to NOT be truth..." But where is your rebuttal? You haven't shown any. In this case you are found out to be a simple liar. Praise God that He has left evidence and proof of Himself, so that we can be assured of His great love for us! Now, as for the topic of this thread... God exists in the minds of all people because that is the way He made things to be. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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DigitalCurrencyConsultant
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April 20, 2017, 10:08:34 PM Last edit: April 20, 2017, 10:25:55 PM by DigitalCurrencyConsultant |
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What if everything you have ever been taught was a lie? How do you know you haven't been tricked? Is there somebody trying to deceive you? I remember being tricked in the past.. However, Coin Projects are Created and designed. Some good, Some bad. They are up to a Developer to create them. If there is no developer there is no project. Projects do not create, and they cannot create themselves. The complexity of coin projects did not evolve from nothing and nothing will come out of nothing if no programming is done. The internet did not create itself.. You would be laughed senseless if their was one who believed in that theory. This is a illogical analysis. It can also be shown that a God does indeed exist. Creation, plants, trees, eco systems, functionality, complex systems, that could not evolve on their own and so much, much more.... And the world, our bodies, animal's bodies and the universe is also designed like programming. To deny this denies logic, reason and just plain human's abilities of the mind and sense. To much war on the mind has seeped into Universities of higher learning most programmers can't tie their shoe without a instruction book. And most programmers never get their head out of a computer screen long enough to go test this theory (and the masses blindly follow). So as the fight on this thread will wage on, by those who call and think themselves wise and brilliant. But yet none of the religion of no God holds no weight when picked apart.. Also they have it twisted and say others must prove there is a God.. Oh there is proof of a Creator and one who designed.. (any real thinking programmer who creates projects knows this) They cannot prove there is no God with out evidence.. They have no real evidence as Science disproves them.. As logic disproves them.. Oh I could go on.. They scream, shout, belittle people on boards to try to hold them into silence.. Problem is that's not proof of a God or not. Yet they only allow themselves to be brainwashed and formed into a mindset.. So many programmers lack innovation as they are stuck in their ways. Their mindset.. Many laugh, scoff, mock, but many have been in your shoes thru history. History on this aspect repeats itself. So many when they find out their logic and ideas where wrong..Remember sometimes dumb mistakes by programers why their code is not working?? This Programer has no mistake in code or design. Many It will be too late for.. but I ask for anybody with a logical mind.. put this issue to the test and go prove Science wrong. Use rational thinking that is our biggest assets as created humans. Here is some resources for the illogical and the logical: http://creation.com/two-worldviews-in-conflicthttps://creationmuseum.org/https://www.creationworldview.org/http://www.creationism.org/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yc8x33lAnAk![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7Jld89n.jpg&t=665&c=tENpcI_mDCRoUw)
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April 20, 2017, 11:03:21 PM |
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Why do you think that God exists in every person? All people are different. You want to say that God exists even in the killers? Then why is God needed? Why do you need God if he exists in people like Assad,Kim,Putin?
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DigitalCurrencyConsultant
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April 21, 2017, 04:26:16 AM Last edit: April 21, 2017, 04:54:53 AM by DigitalCurrencyConsultant |
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Thank-you for your response, I wasn't going to comment anymore here on this topic. Just thought I would make one post and be done. However, you raised a issue concerning to so many people across the world. I wanted to respond to your thoughts.
In the beginning, our DNA code was perfect coding. It was the fall of man, and the disease of sin that entered into the world. It cursed the human race and all the Designer's creation with it. DNA corruption and the curse came from the result of humanities fall by the one who tricked them.. However, I do agree, poor children those are horrible images and very unfair situations. In addition, without knowing of the perfect DNA this a unfair judgement of design that cannot be acquired or viewed in a adequate manner. One must know all the facts. This is noways these children's fault but our perfect DNA is no longer perfect. This is not the original Designer's intent. We are now corrupted with sickness, disease and our bodies all have expiration dates. Our life is not made to be fair. Life is not fair. Some of us die horrible painful deaths, some live longer, some die too young.. I have known too many people gone before they should. There is no longer a fair factor in this life as we are taught in school. God created a way to bring us back to Him if we would choose. A God who demands something from us, who doesn't give us a choice is a dictator. God wants his creation to return back to Him.. But God will not force anybody to do that. He doesn't give many promises for this life.. but however will promise our eternal life a wonderful outcome by accepting his free gift.
Once again, this life we have acquired is not promised to be a happy life. But for all of mankind our ancestors decision to disobey God from Eve to Adam (Human races ancestors). Man fell from being perfect DNA being to a sinner (one (all of us) who does things God disapproves of or breaks God's rules for our lives) is from what he used to be a perfect DNA creation inside a perfect world) and as a result we all shall die. We are all born separated from a Holy God. No longer do we have the perfect beginning DNA, but corrupted DNA now. God had to make a way and somebody who was perfect had to pay our price for our sins, shortcomings of God's perfect standard. Not one human could measure up to this challenge. So God made a way to send his Son to earth to pay for our sins. So if we choose to we can have a way back to God. And this is where it stands. Every human will one day be held in a court to stand trail for the crimes against a Holy Judge. However, many will be rewarded with a new life in a perfect place with none of these now temporary issues we face. They still are human sinners who did wrong things but who has trusted in God's free gift of His Son sacrifice to cover their sins. Also God does not live in all of us (or really any of us).. but we are born as a son or a daughter of God's enemy. So this is a misunderstood part many get confused with. Only after forgiveness, by the One who paid for our price of our wrong doings. Can we get back to where we was to be fellowship and then be a son or Daughter of the Designer.
I hope I answered some questions that might help you to better understand.
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April 21, 2017, 08:03:00 AM |
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These can be karmic reasons. When in a past life a person was very handsome and because of this he was not good to everyone, in this life he was not very lucky with his appearance.
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April 21, 2017, 12:31:22 PM Last edit: April 21, 2017, 04:47:57 PM by af_newbie |
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These can be karmic reasons. When in a past life a person was very handsome and because of this he was not good to everyone, in this life he was not very lucky with his appearance. What does it even mean past life? Don't blame the victims, you little fuck. These children have done nothing wrong, you twit.
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April 21, 2017, 09:55:36 PM |
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These can be karmic reasons. When in a past life a person was very handsome and because of this he was not good to everyone, in this life he was not very lucky with his appearance. What does it even mean past life? Don't blame the victims, you little fuck. These children have done nothing wrong, you twit. All you have to do to see that there is something wrong with these kids, is look at the pictures. So, how do you know that they didn't take part spiritually in doing something wrong that made themselves like this? You seem to think that there isn't any spirit because you haven't seen/felt/understood it. The great know-it-all af_newbie is really the know-it-very-little af_newbie.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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April 21, 2017, 10:05:31 PM |
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Each and every Person is given only ONE life to live. Responsible 100% for it also. There is no past lives or future lives. But when a human dies their soul lives forever. With God or separated from a Holy God in a Place called Hell. We are only given "Look if you had One Shot One opportunity" ...... are you gonna let it go?" Eminem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms1uqdX6wXY Flame Featuring NF (I started chatting here on page 19)
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April 21, 2017, 10:41:51 PM |
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These can be karmic reasons. When in a past life a person was very handsome and because of this he was not good to everyone, in this life he was not very lucky with his appearance. What does it even mean past life? Don't blame the victims, you little fuck. These children have done nothing wrong, you twit. All you have to do to see that there is something wrong with these kids, is look at the pictures. So, how do you know that they didn't take part spiritually in doing something wrong that made themselves like this?You seem to think that there isn't any spirit because you haven't seen/felt/understood it. The great know-it-all af_newbie is really the know-it-very-little af_newbie.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I think you are a psychopath, you do not have any compassion. Fuck you BADecker, you are a despicable human being. No wonder you like the Bible. That book was written by psychopaths.
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April 21, 2017, 10:50:10 PM |
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These can be karmic reasons. When in a past life a person was very handsome and because of this he was not good to everyone, in this life he was not very lucky with his appearance. What does it even mean past life? Don't blame the victims, you little fuck. These children have done nothing wrong, you twit. All you have to do to see that there is something wrong with these kids, is look at the pictures. So, how do you know that they didn't take part spiritually in doing something wrong that made themselves like this?You seem to think that there isn't any spirit because you haven't seen/felt/understood it. The great know-it-all af_newbie is really the know-it-very-little af_newbie.![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I think you are a psychopath, you do not have any compassion. Fuck you BADecker, you are a despicable human being. No wonder you like the Bible. That book was written by psychopaths. I ride bicycle. Sometimes I follow the "cycle path." ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 21, 2017, 10:53:20 PM |
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I think you are a psychopath, you do not have any compassion. Fuck you BADecker, you are a despicable human being.
No wonder you like the Bible. That book was written by psychopaths.
Look, af_newbie. It must be getting kinda late where you live. Why don't you call it a day, and turn in. Tomorrow, after you get some sleep, your mind will be fresh, and you will be able to contradict yourself better than you have been doing the last hour or so. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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April 21, 2017, 11:04:04 PM |
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All I see are idiots after idiots, what son? when you say God sent His son it means that a male penetrated a female and after 9 months a child was born.
Sent to be killed so you idiots can do whatever you want and then go have fun in heaven right?
I don't get it why would you people blame something environmental on someone else? kids in pictures are environmental but not that God didn't know anything about them no, first you guys stop killing/ raping/ stealing then ask for a perfect world, everything you see are signs of God, He can do whatever He wants and no one can stop him.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? now that some claim that there is and here is what He has asked you to do, are you doing them, are you following the path?
Just live your life as you see fit until you die, and don't say later that no one told you, that no one warned you, don't say later that why didn't you send some one to bring us something to guide us?
You have been given the chance and the warnings, from there it's all up to you, stop making excuses and argue with other people while they are clueless as all of us, some of us have faith and have received the grace as the result but some still struggling because have doubts in our hearts.
You don't believe in God? fine, it's not like anyone can keep you safe or hidden from Him, when God wills something there is nothing to be done to stop Him, who do you think you are to defy a power capable of creating galaxies? please we all are just tiny little things mingling on a tiny little planet yet with the audacity beyond our capabilities.
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April 22, 2017, 01:04:07 PM |
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I think you are a psychopath, you do not have any compassion. Fuck you BADecker, you are a despicable human being.
No wonder you like the Bible. That book was written by psychopaths.
Look, af_newbie. It must be getting kinda late where you live. Why don't you call it a day, and turn in. Tomorrow, after you get some sleep, your mind will be fresh, and you will be able to contradict yourself better than you have been doing the last hour or so. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) At least he couldnt contradict himself any more than your holy book.
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April 23, 2017, 12:11:06 PM |
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All I see are idiots after idiots, what son? when you say God sent His son it means that a male penetrated a female and after 9 months a child was born.
Sent to be killed so you idiots can do whatever you want and then go have fun in heaven right?
I don't get it why would you people blame something environmental on someone else? kids in pictures are environmental but not that God didn't know anything about them no, first you guys stop killing/ raping/ stealing then ask for a perfect world, everything you see are signs of God, He can do whatever He wants and no one can stop him.
one question> why do you care if there is any God or not at all? now that some claim that there is and here is what He has asked you to do, are you doing them, are you following the path?
Just live your life as you see fit until you die, and don't say later that no one told you, that no one warned you, don't say later that why didn't you send some one to bring us something to guide us?
You have been given the chance and the warnings, from there it's all up to you, stop making excuses and argue with other people while they are clueless as all of us, some of us have faith and have received the grace as the result but some still struggling because have doubts in our hearts.
You don't believe in God? fine, it's not like anyone can keep you safe or hidden from Him, when God wills something there is nothing to be done to stop Him, who do you think you are to defy a power capable of creating galaxies? please we all are just tiny little things mingling on a tiny little planet yet with the audacity beyond our capabilities.
So god has the power to create galaxies. So where did this god come from? He just popped up one day with all these magical powers?
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April 23, 2017, 12:28:09 PM |
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Each and every Person is given only ONE life to live. Responsible 100% for it also. There is no past lives or future lives. But when a human dies their soul lives forever. With God or separated from a Holy God in a Place called Hell. We are only given "Look if you had One Shot One opportunity" ...... are you gonna let it go?" Eminem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms1uqdX6wXY Flame Featuring NF (I started chatting here on page 19) Yes, the soul lives forever, and the physical body has only one life. The more experienced the soul, the more intelligent it is in the following physical incarnations.
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April 23, 2017, 01:07:47 PM |
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Each and every Person is given only ONE life to live. Responsible 100% for it also. There is no past lives or future lives. But when a human dies their soul lives forever. With God or separated from a Holy God in a Place called Hell. We are only given "Look if you had One Shot One opportunity" ...... are you gonna let it go?" Eminem https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ms1uqdX6wXY Flame Featuring NF (I started chatting here on page 19) Yes, the soul lives forever, and the physical body has only one life. The more experienced the soul, the more intelligent it is in the following physical incarnations. God created our physical body from the dust and in our nose He breathed the breath of life. So, because of it, the body naturally dies and return to the dust, but our spirit returns to God and lives forever. So, we live first in God's mind, as idea, and later God create us, from the dust and from His spirit. Sometimes souls, spirituals beings with unaccomplished task on the earth, return to their relatives, and enter their bodies in order to influence them. It's not reincarnation but other spirit trying to influence us to do something important for them, in order to liberate them from resentment and anger. After that, they can be relieved of the bond with the earthly life and return to Heaven.
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April 23, 2017, 01:12:49 PM |
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I think it is because of that everyone is looking for some greater power, to not accept the fact that he is only on his own, and every choice he does (even the bad ones) was made by himself, not by god order or something like that. Also, another reason I can see is that the people cannot become reconciled with the thought, that after death there is nothing but just pure blackness, a void. We are looking for some explanation, and we are hoping that the death is not the end for our souls, we really want to have something more except only living on this world, but many people tend to believe that we are only in some kind of a shell, which we will abandon after death to go somewhere else.
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April 23, 2017, 06:07:19 PM |
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I think it is because of that everyone is looking for some greater power, to not accept the fact that he is only on his own, and every choice he does (even the bad ones) was made by himself, not by god order or something like that. Also, another reason I can see is that the people cannot become reconciled with the thought, that after death there is nothing but just pure blackness, a void. We are looking for some explanation, and we are hoping that the death is not the end for our souls, we really want to have something more except only living on this world, but many people tend to believe that we are only in some kind of a shell, which we will abandon after death to go somewhere else.
And how do you know that after death one black? I personally do not know what is there, because I never had to die.
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April 23, 2017, 06:49:36 PM |
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I think it is because of that everyone is looking for some greater power, to not accept the fact that he is only on his own, and every choice he does (even the bad ones) was made by himself, not by god order or something like that. Also, another reason I can see is that the people cannot become reconciled with the thought, that after death there is nothing but just pure blackness, a void. We are looking for some explanation, and we are hoping that the death is not the end for our souls, we really want to have something more except only living on this world, but many people tend to believe that we are only in some kind of a shell, which we will abandon after death to go somewhere else.
There is evidence that there is a life of the soul after death. After the death of a physical body, even its weight changes, because the soul leaves the body and it becomes lighter by a few grams.
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