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April 11, 2017, 05:55:18 PM
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UNIVERSAL INCOME ..The only way the planet will work a UNIVERSAL INCOME..


Universal income universal income  universal income  ..I will drum it in your brains  a universal income a universal income..

If we don't say good bye to mankind Wink IT'S GAME OVER ..
Be so much war that the planet will set off the nukes and we will all be dead even the ones hiding in new Zealand ..

And don't think because your a leader I.E A ROBBING TURD   Wink  that you wont die  ..YOU WILL BE ONE OF THE FIRST TO DIE..

We can see that all this war BOLLOCKS is to line your thieving pockets..ARMY KNOWS IT .The PEOPLE KNOW IT..

WE THE PEOPLE are getting sick of your greedy games..You put our future children in debt and also war Angry Angry..

THIS TIME YOU LEADERS WILL BE JOINING US ON THE BATTLE FIELD ..

If we have civil war the young people will have a field day looting the rich ..Mansions smashed to bits golf courses like a battle rubble zone..

And the leaders who hide will be hunted down to be killed..

YES ALL THIS IS POSSIBLE BECAUSE OF GREED..

And here i am trying to get my child well educated so she can do well in the world..And possibly for WHAT?. what future will these greedy fks give them..

A Detroit city life?..Because the way things are going because of greedy fks most of the planet will be like Detroit..

WE AS A PEOPLE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT.. Roll Eyes Roll Eyes..

SOON THE REVOLUTION WILL BE COMING ..And your homes are in danger ..

Oh i got a gun in my home you rich say ..Well you need 100 people in it too because about 300 people will be ransacking your homes with guns..

If you go and do your history you will see it's happened many a time..

What is the police going to do and the army ?..Our sons and daughters are in these forces ..And they are poor too..





You can see that this whole problem is very painful for you. Perhaps all the opposition of the people and the rich will take place, it is not now. Indeed, today people depend very much on banks and government. They are strangled by taxes. And very clever figures attract people and very dubious occupations, then to rob or put into debt, but how to get rid of everything. Is there a solution to such problems?
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April 12, 2017, 02:41:11 AM
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Well not impossible if we had a universal income..

As 'commodities' become things like information, computing power that is used to incentivize getting information, i.e., cryptocurrencies with 'useful algorithms', provide an important commodity, information, which is useful in producing more substantial practical commodities.

It isn't 'income' people need, it is freedom from the scarcity of resources.

When the economy is properly managed and scarcity is not an issue, then people can look forward to more interesting new problems.
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April 12, 2017, 04:33:25 AM
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whether taxation is theft.
if indeed the theft I do not know where the word theft had taken out of taxation, maybe I should learn as deep as possible in the legal dictionary might there I find her.
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April 12, 2017, 06:16:10 AM
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if you want to know the tax law dictionary dalamilah theft then you will find out its

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April 12, 2017, 08:54:48 AM
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I dont get the point of this question, we have taxes in countries since ancient Rome, through medival or something, they are present for hundreds of years.

In my opinion taxes is an obvious theft, government takes the money we have earned and redistributes them to politics, poor people and infrastructure.

Country should collect taxes for army and public health service, and also for building roads and stations, but why do countries use our money to giveaway them to people that dont want to work?

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April 20, 2017, 01:07:58 AM
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but why do countries use our money to giveaway them to people that dont want to work?

This is one of the drawbacks of taxation. Hardworking people are penalized in the form of taxes, and those who don't want to work are given freebies. The only sane method would be to terminate the unemployment benefits after a period of three or six months.

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April 20, 2017, 02:44:04 PM
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Some of the taxes are needed but most of them just slow down the economy and take money away from people.

They think they will spend our money better than we will.

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April 20, 2017, 05:19:47 PM
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By American definition, no. By Norwegian definition, yes. By my own opinion, also yes. However, I can understand why many people think there are several other factors to take into account to this question - and there also is. Regardless, your money is taken from you with or without your consent, which makes it theft.
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April 20, 2017, 05:39:51 PM
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Yes of course it is. I can maybe understand something like 10-15% to make the state run, but when you are taxed on everything, even the fact that you live in your house or do not live in it, that becomes organised theft.

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April 21, 2017, 10:35:17 PM
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Don't forget to include the forced insurance schemes i.e. health insurance, auto insurance, financial insurance. Pretty soon the state will force you to pay insurance insurance, just in case the first insurance schemes collapse. As long as you keep your money in the bank, it's not your money. They only give it back to you because they've been profiting and expanding for 80 years. Wait until the economy takes a dive, lets see if they pay you your winnings once they begin losing.

No insurance does make sense, auto insurance is definitely not a stupid thing considering that drivers are so dumb that they cause accidents all the time.

And humans arent living a healthy life either,so health insurance is good as well.

I am not sure what financial insurance means.

The problem is that there is no competition between insurers, they are in monopoly, so the premiums are high. And the health insurance is socialized, meaning that the rich subsidize the poor, and the poor therefore wont have a healthy lifestyle because the knows that his ass is covered.

So it's wrong incentives. These things should be affordable, and private, not socialized and therefore high priced.


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Don't forget to include the forced insurance schemes i.e. health insurance, auto insurance, financial insurance. Pretty soon the state will force you to pay insurance insurance, just in case the first insurance schemes collapse. As long as you keep your money in the bank, it's not your money. They only give it back to you because they've been profiting and expanding for 80 years. Wait until the economy takes a dive, lets see if they pay you your winnings once they begin losing.

No insurance does make sense, auto insurance is definitely not a stupid thing considering that drivers are so dumb that they cause accidents all the time.

And humans arent living a healthy life either,so health insurance is good as well.

I am not sure what financial insurance means.

The problem is that there is no competition between insurers, they are in monopoly, so the premiums are high. And the health insurance is socialized, meaning that the rich subsidize the poor, and the poor therefore wont have a healthy lifestyle because the knows that his ass is covered.

So it's wrong incentives. These things should be affordable, and private, not socialized and therefore high priced.


AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

OMG at least you made me laugh!!!
Yeah, the poor don't take care of their health because "they got their ass covered"
Oh man, how dumb can a human being be? xD
Are you saying that someone poor will not take care of himself because he won't have to pay for medical treatment?

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April 26, 2017, 07:04:45 PM
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In itself, the taxation is not theft, but the officials dispose of the taxes it's definitely theft. If the money is not stolen it would be possible to reduce the percentage of taxation.
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April 26, 2017, 10:04:10 PM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
In my belief, I don't think that that taxation was a theft. Because it is legally rules in every countries, but only included for centralization system but not in decentralization aspects like in bitcoin which is unregulated industry. Wink
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April 26, 2017, 10:16:02 PM
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but why do countries use our money to giveaway them to people that dont want to work?

This is one of the drawbacks of taxation. Hardworking people are penalized in the form of taxes, and those who don't want to work are given freebies. The only sane method would be to terminate the unemployment benefits after a period of three or six months.
This is not the way. Those who do not want to work, they still need the money. If you remove the benefits they are going to Rob and steal. Do you want this?
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April 26, 2017, 11:37:05 PM
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but why do countries use our money to giveaway them to people that dont want to work?

This is one of the drawbacks of taxation. Hardworking people are penalized in the form of taxes, and those who don't want to work are given freebies. The only sane method would be to terminate the unemployment benefits after a period of three or six months.
This is not the way. Those who do not want to work, they still need the money. If you remove the benefits they are going to Rob and steal. Do you want this?

It's not just people that don't want to work; it's alot of people that can't work as well. If you don't provide for those that need assistance when you have enough, not only are you a shit, but you open yourself up to having desperate folks come take your cookie.

One should provide for the common greater good, so that eventually, it can be relied on to provide for him. Pay it forward. Help your future self by helping your brother today.

LOL, and tell the IRS that taxation is theft. They see it quite the opposite Smiley
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April 27, 2017, 01:28:55 AM
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In itself, the taxation is not theft, but the officials dispose of the taxes it's definitely theft. If the money is not stolen it would be possible to reduce the percentage of taxation.

Here in my place, what the government officials are doing is stealing the taxes that the people pay and then, they use it to themselves or the people to make them look good or very kind who is in the position, they use taxes to make the people believe that they are really good and kind but they are not. Taxation is the most corrupted money in the government.
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April 27, 2017, 01:42:04 AM
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Personally, I do feel it is theft, I never consented to any taxation. I feel that this video helps explain the video quite well https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PGMQZEIXBMs
It is theft but there is no one to run, when someone steal money from you go to the police which is part of the government, when the government steals from you then who do you go to?
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If you don't provide for those that need assistance when you have enough, not only are you a shit, but you open yourself up to having desperate folks come take your cookie.
Donating to charity should be an independent decision.

I wouldn't want to live in a society where citizens only pay taxes because they fear punishment.
Yes, it should. But this isn't charity. Taxes are subsidy for participating in society, and using infrastructure. Since failure to promote the general welfare could mean civil unrest, it is in the public interest, and hence, civic duty.

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Taxation is not theft, because citizens have agreed to pay taxes. This is part of the “social contract,” which is a kind of agreement between citizens and the government, whereby the citizens agree to pay taxes and obey the laws, in return for the government’s protection. By using government services (such as roads, schools, and police), and remaining present in the government’s territory, you indicate that you accept the social contract
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April 27, 2017, 03:27:17 AM
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Taxation is not theft, because citizens have agreed to pay taxes. This is part of the “social contract,” which is a kind of agreement between citizens and the government, whereby the citizens agree to pay taxes and obey the laws, in return for the government’s protection. By using government services (such as roads, schools, and police), and remaining present in the government’s territory, you indicate that you accept the social contract

No one has "agreed" to pay the taxes. On the other hand, they are being forced to do so. If you are living in Western nations such as the US and UK, it is still OK. The government is at least using your tax money in a meaningful way. But the same can't be said about third world nations such as India and Nigeria.

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