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February 14, 2018, 09:00:02 PM
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Im using nicehash program wich uses excavator cuda version

So it switchs automatically.

I just need to change the file when it switchs or perform benchmarks with equihash. Currently when i try to run the benchmark the cpu goes over 2200MHz so it breaks and the test fails.
If i stop the overclock it runs fine and gives a good hashrate.
As the overclock works fine with all othar algoritms stopping the overclock doesnt seem the best idea as it would underperform.
So i want to configure it to reduce the clock a bit when it changes to equihash.

Thanks in advance

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February 15, 2018, 07:38:03 AM
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Im using nicehash program wich uses excavator cuda version

So it switchs automatically.

I just need to change the file when it switchs or perform benchmarks with equihash. Currently when i try to run the benchmark the cpu goes over 2200MHz so it breaks and the test fails.
If i stop the overclock it runs fine and gives a good hashrate.
As the overclock works fine with all othar algoritms stopping the overclock doesnt seem the best idea as it would underperform.
So i want to configure it to reduce the clock a bit when it changes to equihash.

Thanks in advance



Unfortunately, NiceHash Miner doesn't support that kind of overclocking at the moment.
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February 15, 2018, 07:45:26 AM
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I have got excavator running externally with the daggerhashimoto algo with my 8 x GTX 1060 3gb cards np.
It did the dag file ok at the start of mining..

I was mining to:
{"id":1,"method":"algorithm.add","params":["daggerhashimoto","daggerhashimoto.usa.nicehash.com:3353",
What is the address and port for dual mining with decred or pascal to try those..

I just have to put my oc settings into the default_config file now as it started up with no oc settings and everything heated up pretty fast Smiley
It didn't take any notice of my MSI afterburner settings and went default. Below was my config file..

[
   {"time":1,"commands":[
      {"id":1,"method":"algorithm.add","params":["daggerhashimoto","daggerhashimoto.usa.nicehash.com:3353","BTC ADDRESS REMOVED.worker4"]}
   ]},
   {"time":2,"commands":[
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","1"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","2"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","3"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","4"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","5"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","6"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","7"]}
   ]},
   {"time":10,"commands":[
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["1"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["2"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["3"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["4"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["5"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["6"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"worker.reset","params":["7"]}
   ]},
   {"event":"on_quit","commands":[
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["0","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["0","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["0","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["1","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["1","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["1","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["2","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["2","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["2","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["3","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["3","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["3","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["4","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["4","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["4","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["5","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["5","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["5","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["6","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["6","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["6","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params":         ["7","100"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":   ["7","0"]},
      {"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["7","0"]}   
   ]}
]
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February 15, 2018, 08:43:36 AM
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What is the setting for gpu temp in the excavator default_config_file ?
In msi Afterburner I have it set to 92deg.
I alredy have these in for OC setings but cant find the temp parram anywhere ?

{"id":1,"method":"device.set.power_limit","params":["0","70"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params":["0","100"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params":["0","800"]},
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February 15, 2018, 08:54:47 AM
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What is the address and port for dual mining with decred or pascal to try those..


Here is the algorithm.add method for dual mining with decred:
Code:
{"id":1,"method":"algorithm.add","params":["daggerhashimoto_decred","daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353","btc", "decred.eu.nicehash.com:3354","btc"]}

Please take a look at our documentation:
https://github.com/nicehash/excavator/tree/master/api#-algorithmadd (example 2)

Here are the ports for different algorithms:
https://www.nicehash.com/algorithm

Remark on your config file:
You added OC settings on "on_quit" event, this will take affect when you quit application. In order to change OC settings before, you should change the  {"event":"on_quit","commands": to {"time":5,"commands": for example. 

For temp settings take a look at device.set.tdp (thermal design power):
https://github.com/nicehash/excavator/tree/master/api#-devicesettdp

Note: You could always set your OC settings with a third party software (MSI Afterburner) and just run excavator without device.set* methods.
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February 15, 2018, 09:16:36 AM
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Cool, Thanks for the help,
I'll try all that out Smiley
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February 15, 2018, 01:39:37 PM
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We released a new version today that includes more neoscrypt improvements for some cards (mainly 1070 & 1060 cards):

https://github.com/nicehash/excavator/releases/tag/v1.4.4a

Good job, seems to be something around +4.5% on 1070
Yeah, seems to me that's in the ballpark for me too, I tested it just quickly now and I got roughly +3.5% on 1070 Ti but that was very brief. Have a few 1070's I will test on later.

--ypsi

@ypsi What are your overclock settings for 1070 Ti? Thanks.
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February 16, 2018, 08:08:19 AM
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Hi guys, what could be the reason for a very low hashrate? On the neoscrypt gtx 1070 ti the result is 650 kH/s, with the use of the other miner is more than 1300 KH/s.
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Last edit: February 16, 2018, 10:14:41 AM by dropky
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Hi guys, what could be the reason for a very low hashrate? On the neoscrypt gtx 1070 ti the result is 650 kH/s, with the use of the other miner is more than 1300 KH/s.


Try different startup parameters, B=720, M=5 (or M=3) for example. It should work much better.

EDIT: I've run some more tests on 1070 Ti, I get the best performance with B=608 and M=5 parameters (a bit better than with B=722, M=3).
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February 17, 2018, 08:47:04 AM
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Hi guys, what could be the reason for a very low hashrate? On the neoscrypt gtx 1070 ti the result is 650 kH/s, with the use of the other miner is more than 1300 KH/s.


Try different startup parameters, B=720, M=5 (or M=3) for example. It should work much better.

EDIT: I've run some more tests on 1070 Ti, I get the best performance with B=608 and M=5 parameters (a bit better than with B=722, M=3).
Thanks now everything works.
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February 18, 2018, 01:45:26 PM
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@dropky hello

I see a good improvement with 1.4.4.a on neoscrypt algoritm!!! & now i am try to figure how i can tweak best for get close to Hsrminer performance, so can you explain or give more details about what means "Mode of algorithm" is a intensitie, what exactly do ? With default excavator parameter neoscript algo it bring this value mining VIVO:

Code:
core | Algorithm 'neoscrypt' total speed: 692.720640 kH/s

Hardware Spec & setting:
GPU 0: Gigabyte Windforce 2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (Samsung) dedicate to mining
GPU 1: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 2GB only for own use, not for mining
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
Video Driver: 390.65
MSI Afterburn: 4.4.2
Power limit: 74
Temp limit: 80
Core Clock: +168
Memmory Clock: +650

https://github.com/nicehash/excavator/tree/master/nvidia#neoscrypt

Any news about fix & improve equihash algoritm ?

thx & cheer
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February 18, 2018, 02:06:13 PM
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Have played around with excavator today:

Added 5 workers per card (1080ti) with M=1 equihash algo:

  • It goes max 1000h/s per card (I think this value is just an illusion)
  • Hangs a little at around 800h/s per card (I wish this value could be sustainable)
  • Lowers down to 660h/s and stays stable

M=2 -> crashes
M=0 -> achieves max 650h/s
M=1 and 6 workers per card -> crashes

Here is my json:

Code:
[
{"time":0,"commands":[
{"id":1,"method":"algorithm.add","params":["equihash","zec-eu2.nanopool.org:16666","t1giG5dAbFzdSjTAkNa7d8otMZQTqbk7nwX","z"]}
]},

{"time":3,"commands":[
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","0","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","0","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","0","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","0","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","0","1"]},

{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","1","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","1","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","1","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","1","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","1","1"]},

{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","2","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","2","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","2","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","2","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","2","1"]},

{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","3","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","3","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","3","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","3","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","3","1"]},

{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","4","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","4","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","4","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","4","1"]},
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","4","1"]}
]},

{"time":5,"commands":[
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["0","80"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["0","130"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["0","700"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["1","80"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["1","130"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["1","700"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["2","80"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["2","130"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["2","700"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["3","80"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["3","130"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["3","700"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["4","80"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["4","130"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["4","700"]}
]},

{"time":10,"loop":10,"commands":[
{"id":1,"method":"worker.print.speed","params":["0"]},
{"id":2,"method":"worker.print.speed","params":["1"]},
{"id":3,"method":"worker.print.speed","params":["2"]},
{"id":4,"method":"worker.print.speed","params":["3"]},
{"id":5,"method":"worker.print.speed","params":["4"]},
{"id":1,"method":"algorithm.print.speeds","params":["0"]}
]},

{"event":"on_quit","commands":[
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["0","100"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["0","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["0","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["1","100"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["1","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["1","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["2","100"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["2","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["2","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["3","100"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["3","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["3","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.tdp","params": ["4","100"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.core_delta","params": ["4","0"]},
{"id":1,"method":"device.set.memory_delta","params": ["4","0"]}
]}
]

Any plans to investigate your equihash algorythm? I think there is room for improvement and I know you can make it Smiley

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February 18, 2018, 03:41:49 PM
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@Kaan3000,

Give it a try using M=1 and 2 workers.  I am using Titan X (pascal) from 2016 and get steady 755-760 h/s.  I find pascal cards do better with 2 workers and maxwell with 1 worker.
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@Kaan3000,

Give it a try using M=1 and 2 workers.  I am using Titan X (pascal) from 2016 and get steady 755-760 h/s.  I find pascal cards do better with 2 workers and maxwell with 1 worker.


Thanks Yenbus! I started with 2 workers. It wasn't much different than 1 worker -> both gave ~600 to 650. Then I applied 4 workers, it increased. Then I applied 6 workers and it crashed. This way I lowered to 5 workers per card and that seemed to be the highest in my configuration.

Did you use DSTM? What do you get with your sweet Titan X? Smiley (I get solid 700h/s per card with DSTM)
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February 18, 2018, 10:47:52 PM
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I want to say that I got around 710 with DSTM.  I pretty much try them all as they release new versions.  I end up sticking with Excavator due to better hash and no fees.  I also get better hash with lyra2rev2.  I run 3 workers with it.
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February 19, 2018, 06:47:55 AM
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I want to say that I got around 710 with DSTM.  I pretty much try them all as they release new versions.  I end up sticking with Excavator due to better hash and no fees.  I also get better hash with lyra2rev2.  I run 3 workers with it.

Nice. That's what I also expect/hope from excavator. I just switched to DSTM from EWBF. I will let it run for few days and then give another try to Excavator. I always test the inflow to the wallet ;-)
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February 19, 2018, 07:39:26 AM
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When you use the commandline option M, is there any visual indication on startup?  I'm just playing around with it and equihash, and I tried -M 2 and -M=2 and neither one seemed to make any difference, so I'm not sure if I'm missing something.  FWIW, I'm running the latest Linux version.
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When you use the commandline option M, is there any visual indication on startup?  I'm just playing around with it and equihash, and I tried -M 2 and -M=2 and neither one seemed to make any difference, so I'm not sure if I'm missing something.  FWIW, I'm running the latest Linux version.

@MarkAz for equihash algo to change Mode of algorithm you need to do it like this in confing json file:

Code:
{"id":1,"method":"worker.add","params":["0","0","0"]}

Were ["0","0","0"] = a. 0 = Device 0, b. 0 = worker 0, c. 0 = M0 (for M1 use 1, for M2 use 2) this is only for equihash for other algo there are diferite value

https://github.com/nicehash/excavator/tree/master/nvidia#equihash

Yes it is a visual indication at witch Mode excavator start exactly on beginning in console it say that (using Mode parameter in json or not excavator it start on a default stage & it say it).

p.s. for dev make in logs to be record Mode & Block value to pls

cheers
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February 19, 2018, 07:23:00 PM
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@dropky hello

I see a good improvement with 1.4.4.a on neoscrypt algoritm!!! & now i am try to figure how i can tweak best for get close to Hsrminer performance, so can you explain or give more details about what means "Mode of algorithm" is a intensitie, what exactly do ? With default excavator parameter neoscript algo it bring this value mining VIVO:

Code:
core | Algorithm 'neoscrypt' total speed: 692.720640 kH/s

Hardware Spec & setting:
GPU 0: Gigabyte Windforce 2 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 3GB (Samsung) dedicate to mining
GPU 1: Gigabyte NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 2GB only for own use, not for mining
OS: Windows 7 Service Pack 1
Video Driver: 390.65
MSI Afterburn: 4.4.2
Power limit: 74
Temp limit: 80
Core Clock: +168
Memmory Clock: +650

https://github.com/nicehash/excavator/tree/master/nvidia#neoscrypt

Any news about fix & improve equihash algoritm ?

thx & cheer

The current version of excavator includes different implementations for neoscrypt - kernels might vary a bit from one mode to another and some modes work better on the specific card than others. For example, you'll notice that 1060 card uses mode 4 while 1070 uses mode 2. We opened the M parameter to the API because on cards that are not optimized (all Maxwell cards) different mode could perform better than the default one.

Regarding the equihash.. It's our main priority and we'll do our best to improve it.
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February 19, 2018, 07:34:17 PM
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Any plans to investigate your equihash algorythm? I think there is room for improvement and I know you can make it Smiley

Yes, working on it.. Smiley
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